Hello Revleft (for new Indonesia)

[Marleybob]

Hi all, I'm Indonesian and waiting for communist call:rolleyes:

[TheGodlessUtopian]

Welcome to the board, hope you have fun.

[ВАЛТЕР]

Welcome! Glad to have you with us. Feel free to join in on discussions. :)

[The Cheshire Cat]

Welcome bob!

[Le Socialiste]

Welcome! :)

[TalalNayer]

Welcome! :thumbup1:

[Marleybob]

Indonesia country once ruled by a communist party that leaned toward Russia. Is there any of you who've read or analyzing collapse of communism in Indonesia?

[The Cheshire Cat]

Indonesia country once ruled by a communist party that leaned toward Russia. Is there any of you who've read or analyzing collapse of communism in Indonesia?

Are you talking about the PKI? I know it had ties with Moscow in the 1920's I think and that they were organising Indonesian Red Guards, etc. But at the moment when the Indonesian people rose up against their colonial rulers in a communist revolution, the PKI tried to keep the people down for a little bit longer in the hope that they could organise the revolution better. Partly because of this, the revolution became a disaster. Many years later, the PKI joined in the government, but I doubt they were still communist at that time, seen the fact they they ruled side by side with Soekarno's nationalists, right?

[Sasha]

Communist enough to get butchered on a massive scale by the junta with support of the CIA and dutch military secret services.
Conservative estimates estimate more than half a million killed; http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_killings_of_1965%E2%80%931966

[The Cheshire Cat]

That does not make it communist...

[Sasha]

Indeed, but the fact that they started to nationalise British owned buisness and send fighters to support the independence of malasya was probably one of the major reasons the right-wing generals where planing to remove sukarno (which in turn let to the "coup" attempt that eventually led to the genocide)

[l'Enfermé]

Welcome to RL. I don't think we have any active comrades from Indonesia, sadly.

[Firefly]

Welcome to RevLeft neighbor
I'm from the Philippines

[Manic Impressive]

That does not make it communist...
It was not just the party who was massacred it was anyone suspected of being a communist usually names supplied courtesy of the British secret service. The figure I've always known for the Indonesian genocide is 3 million. It's one of the worst events of the 20th century no matter what their exact politics were they were working class men women and children.

As far as I know communist literature is still illegal in Indonesia.

[The Cheshire Cat]

It was not just the party who was massacred it was anyone suspected of being a communist usually names supplied courtesy of the British secret service. The figure I've always known for the Indonesian genocide is 3 million. It's one of the worst events of the 20th century no matter what their exact politics were they were working class men women and children.

As far as I know communist literature is still illegal in Indonesia.


I know, I wasn't stating that no (alledged) communists were harmed in the purges.

[l'Enfermé]

Welcome to RL. I don't think we have any active comrades from Indonesia, sadly.

[Marleybob]

I mind communist movement, not just PKI. Indonesia has long story about that since 1920's until 1965 and i thing the biggest communist in Asia after china. Yah, there is CIA (capitalist) to destroyed communist in Indonesia. and than soviet, now china. next America Latin maybe, i just know a little bit. How can they (capitalist or liberalism) controlling the world?