USA did NOT invent the WWW

[ComradeRobertRiley]

The inventor of the world wide web, Tim Berners-Lee, has been awarded a knighthood for his pioneering work.
Dubbed the "Father of the Web", he came up with a system over 10 years ago to organise, link and browse net pages.

The famously modest man said he was "quite an ordinary person", and although it felt strange, he was "honoured".

Sir Tim was recently reunited with the machine he used to invent the web when he e-mailed 80 schools from the UN's summit on the information society.

Understanding web

The British scientist, who lives in the US, was told he was getting the unexpected Knight Commander of the Order of the British Empire in the New Year honours list a few days ago - by telephone, not by e-mail.

[el_profe]

I know. But the USA invented the Internet.

[Bolshevika]

This is very interesting information that I had never known. I thought the internet was developed a long time ago, just open to regular people recently.

On a side not: I think it's completely ridiculous that someone is being dubbed "knight" by the queen in the21st century.

[SonofRage]

As has been said, there is a difference between the web and the net. The internet was developed by the US military. No net = no web. Regardless, who cares?

[Exploited Class]

Yah I am going to go with Bolshevika here,
This hanging on to the Imperialist Expansion of Britian's past with all these knightings is really messed up. The empire is no more and we have been out of the medieval period for some time now, I have no idea why England still does this.

Next week we all shall sacrifice a goat to the gods, another out dated practice that no longer needed today.

[Funky Monk]

Knighthood is really an extension of Norman principals.

[Rastaman]

who gives.. its stupid and a waste of time and money...

[toastedmonkey]

I think the point is being missed, this isnt about knighthoods, its about how it was some british guy who invented the "www", not the u$ of a.

Then again, thats irrelavent aswell. <_<

[Deniz Gezmis]

The world wide web and internet are different things. :/ Anyway, The same guy invented the first web browser and the first web based programming language.

[Rastaman]

does this argument have any point? is this going someplace i cant comprehend?

[Bolshevika]

How about that school in England telling catholic children to hate Muslims?

Smell that: *smells* that&#39;s some good Childrens Crusade.

[Rastaman]

where did THAT come from???

[ComradeRobertRiley]

The original post was put here because ive had many arguement with people on here saying the WWW was invented by the U&#036;A and until now I havnt been able to find proof.

[SonofRage]

The Internet was invented by the US government. The World Wide Web is a different thing than the Internet.

Here&#39;s some more detailed info:



The creation of the Internet
Main article: History of the Internet

The core networks forming the Internet started out in 1969 as the ARPANET devised by the United States Department of Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (ARPA).

Some early research which contributed to ARPANET included work on decentralised networks (including damage survivability) , queueing theory and packet switching.

On January 1, 1983, the ARPANET changed its core networking protocols from NCP to the then-new TCP/IP, marking the start of the Internet as we know it today.

Another important step in the development was the National Science Foundation&#39;s (NSF) building of a university backbone, the NSFNet, in 1986. Important disparate networks that have successfully been accommodated within the Internet include Usenet, Fidonet, and Bitnet. See History of the Internet.

During the 1990s, the Internet successfully accommodated the majority of previously existing computer networks. This growth is often attributed to the lack of central administration, which allows organic growth of the network, as well as the non-proprietary nature of the internet protocols, which encourages vendor interoperability and prevents one company from exerting control over the network.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet#The_...of_the_Internet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet#The_creation_of_the_Internet)



World Wide Web

The part of the Internet most people are probably most familiar with is the World Wide Web.

As the Internet grew through the 1980s and early 1990s, many people realized the growing need to be able to find and organize files and related information. Projects such as Gopher, WAIS, and the Anonymous FTP Archive Site list attempted to create schemes to organize distributed data and present it to people in an easy-to-use form. Unfortunately, these projects fell short in being able to accommodate all the various existing file and data types, and in being able to grow without centralized bottlenecks.

One of the most promising ideas was hypertext, originated by Ted Nelson in his Project Xanadu. Small self-contained hypertext systems had been created before, such as Apple Computer&#39;s HyperCard, but nobody had figured out how to scale it up to be able to refer to another document anywhere in the world.

The solution was invented by Tim Berners-Lee in 1989. He was a physicist working at CERN, the European Particle Physics Laboratory, and wanted a way for physicists to share information about their research. His documentation project was the source of the two key inventions that made the World Wide Web possible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_th...#World_Wide_Web (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet#World_Wide_Web)

[(*]

I though Al Gore invented the Internet :unsure:

[apathy maybe]

Just to clarify what SonofRage posted,
ARPANET was created by the US military to have a system of communicating during a nuke attack. It turned into the Internet.
The Internet includes many parts some of the proticals are, FTP (for files), HTTP (for WWW), GOPHER (??), and others.
The WWW is just part of the Internet and was created by Tim Berners-Lee around 1989-1992. He gives a great account of it in Weaving the Web (published in 2000 I think).

[Ian]

Originally posted by Exploited [email protected] 31 2003, 04:35 PM
Yah I am going to go with Bolshevika here,
This hanging on to the Imperialist Expansion of Britian&#39;s past with all these knightings is really messed up. The empire is no more and we have been out of the medieval period for some time now, I have no idea why England still does this.

Next week we all shall sacrifice a goat to the gods, another out dated practice that no longer needed today.
Oh you&#39;re sooo burnt at the stake it&#39;s not funny&#33;

[Rastaman]

does matter who invented it? it there thats all that matters

[toastedmonkey]

I think its meant to be one of those Britain are better than the U&#036; of A threads.

[ComradeRobertRiley]

toasted did you read my last post? it says why I started this, not because I think the UK is better than the U&#036; but and I am getting fed up with saying this and getting fed up with people who cant read&#33;

It was for those people who I have had arguements with before who insisted that the WWW was invented by the U&#036; and its only now that I have seen proof that the WWW is NOT a U&#036; invention.


DO YOU UNDERSTAND?

[toastedmonkey]

Ok Ok

I take it back

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by [email protected] 31 2003, 06:43 AM
I know. But the USA invented the Internet.
The USA military invented a system to network all its computers, so if one target was taken out the all the data would still be available, and communication would still be possible.

This technology was later enhansed and altered to form the internet...

The wonders of A-Level computing. :wacko:

[ComradeRobertRiley]

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2004, 07:09 PM
Ok Ok

I take it back
I didnt mean to get angry at you :D


Just I am English and I dont want to be made out as some patriotic person, I hate patriotism.

Sorry.

[RedCeltic]

ComradeRobertRiley


I&#39;m sorry but I have no idea what you are talking about.

I know what SonofRage is talking about and agree 100% because I was forced to take a stupid class on the history of the internet and shit from my university and they mentioned ARPANET and all that stuff... everything he said there is exactly as was said in the class... however I don&#39;t remember once hearing of some English guy knighted or whatnot...

Most "inventions" are more of a collaberation of different people working on the same thing... does it really matter who put the final pieces together?

[Urban Rubble]

The inventor of the world wide web, Tim Berners-Lee, has been awarded a knighthood for his pioneering work.
Dubbed the "Father of the Web", he came up with a system over 10 years ago to organise, link and browse net pages.

I haven&#39;t read the posts here, so this has most likely alrady been covered, but wasn&#39;t the internet "invented" like 20 years ago ?

[Don't Change Your Name]

It would have been better if the money and equipment that contributed in the creation of internet would have been available to more people to use and create new things...of course the capitalists dont like that because they cant make money or defend their private property that way, so they spend money in 2 or 3 workers to create something that could have been used in the worst possible way.

[apathy maybe]

Originally posted by Urban [email protected] 2 2004, 07:22 AM

The inventor of the world wide web, Tim Berners-Lee, has been awarded a knighthood for his pioneering work.
Dubbed the "Father of the Web", he came up with a system over 10 years ago to organise, link and browse net pages.

I haven&#39;t read the posts here, so this has most likely alrady been covered, but wasn&#39;t the internet "invented" like 20 years ago ?
I suggest that you read all the posts for many of them include infomation on difference between WWW & Internet.