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Ret
15th January 2013, 01:17
As quoted above;
The party should mainly take two crucial decisions. Firstly, the party should sketch a clear roadmap of the revolution to ensure that the Nepali people would not be victimized by betrayal of the leadership. Secondly, the party should do away with nepotism, and the feudal and bureaucratic culture in the party. The leaders should work for the interests of the masses rather than themselves.Interesting to see that even within Baidya's new Party there is still rank'n'file concern about privileges enjoyed by the Party elite. These have usually manifested as capitalist behaviour - ie a personal and collective accumulation of great wealth.

The Telegraph's satirical political commentator notes below that, even as Baidya & co talk of " defeating imperialists and expansionists" and "Indian expansionism", they boast of fraternal greetings from the Chinese CP and are happy to have a member of the Chinese ruling class - the Ambassador - as honoured guest sharing their platform. Gone seemingly are the definition of 'revisionist counter-revolutionary capitalist-roaders' that Maoists have long used for the present Chinese CP; Baidya's Party is now cultivating ever-closer links with them. (Even as Chinese capital penetrates ever-deeper into, eg, Africa, to exploit its proletariat*.)


http://www.telegraphnepal.com/headline/2013-01-10/nepal-note:-china-good-india-evil-ncp-maoist-leaders-claim

10 Jan 2013

Nepal note: China good, India evil, NCP-Maoist leaders claim

Telegraph Nepal

Whereas China respects Nepal’s sovereignty unconditionally, India on the other hand, has set an evil eye on Nepal. The northern neighbor has respect for us but the Indian ruling elites have always looked towards us with mal-intent. India’s evil eye towards Nepal must come to an end.

Addressing the inaugural session of the sixth general assembly of the party, Chairman Mohan Baidya Kiran of Nepal Communist Party-Maoist, made these fiery remarks in Tudikhel in Kathmandu, January 9, 2013.

Chinese Ambassador Yang Houlan was also present on the occasion. This has immense meaning.

Vice Chairman C.P. Gajurel informed the crowd that the party has received a congratulatory message from the Communist Party of China.

“The Indian expansionism is the major obstacle towards successful completion of our revolt,” Baidya continued.

“We do not want to criticize India for nothing. We want friendly relations with the people of India and we also want good relations to exist between the two countries. There exist several unequal treaties between the two countries. The Indian ruling elites continue to treat us unequally and they have set an evil eye on our country. There lay threat to our sovereignty from the South.”

In his high voltage speech, Chairman Baidya also said that his party was ready to take the charge of the nation.

But only if awarded. But who will begin this charitable work?

“We will come with new policies, plans and objectives. We will focus our discussion on defeating imperialists and expansionists. We will bring our plan of action to successfully complete the revolt that began a decade back. We are ready to take the country forward in the direction traced by our party.”

“It has become wide and clear that the parliamentary parties have become a failure. They are outdated. There is however, the need for alliance between real communists, republicans and nationalists. We do not want to maintain our relations with the parliamentary parties.”

Seated beside the firebrand leader Netra Bikram Chan Biplav was the Chinese ambassador followed by the Ambassador from North Korea.

Biplav, as per the media reports, has been secretly meeting PM Bhattarai upon his return from China.

The party leaders Dev Gurung, Ram Bahadur Thapa ‘Badal’, Netra Bikram Chand Biplav, C.P. Gajurel, Manik Lal Shrestha were also present on the dais.

Spokeswoman, Pampha Bhusal told the reporters that none representing the parliamentary parties including the Unified Maoists Party were invited to take part in the inaugural session.

Societal boycott?

“Our objective is to fight against the parliamentary system. It would have been unsuitable to have brought them to the dais”.
...But Chinese bureaucrats are fine to have on the platform.

*On Chinese economic 'imperialism and expansionism';
"Why would the Chinese government push some of its labor- and energy-intensive industries to move to special economic zones in Africa, even as the U.S. Congress bans the U.S. Agency for International Development from financing any activities that could relocate the jobs of Americans overseas? Because Chinese planners want industrialists at home to move up the value chain. Polluting industries such as leather tanneries and metal smelters are no longer tolerated in many Chinese cities. And as the world economy recovers from the recent economic recession, wages and benefits will resume rising in China's coastal belt, as they had been before the crisis. Some factories will move further inland, but others will go offshore, closer to both the sources of and the markets for raw materials.
The early stages of industrialization might bring pollution, low wages, and long workdays, especially if the Chinese zones are successful. But like China's resource-backed loans, the planned economic zones promise to provide African countries with some things they very much want: employment opportunities, new technologies, and badly needed infrastructure. This is an opportunity for African states to ride into the global economy on China's shirttails rather than remain natural-resource suppliers to the world." (D. Brautigam - Jan 2010; http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/65916/deborah-brautigam/africa%E2%80%99s-eastern-promise

TheGodlessUtopian
16th January 2013, 20:24
Ret, if you have a bone to pick with the Nepali Maoists than please start a new thread instead of derailing this one.

Ret
17th January 2013, 00:31
Ret, if you have a bone to pick with the Nepali Maoists than please start a new thread instead of derailing this one.
Surely this thread is not now only for those uncritical of Nepali Maoists? Historically that hasn't been the case and I don't see why it should be so now. But if that's your intention start a new thread called "uncritical worship of Nepali Maoism". To point out glaring contradictions in the Baidya faction's activity is not "derailing" - especially when you are happy to do the same in regard to the Dahal/Bhattarai mother Party, which I don't have a problem with you doing.

TheGodlessUtopian
17th January 2013, 00:39
Surely this thread is not now only for those uncritical of Nepali Maoists? Historically that hasn't been the case and I don't see why it should be so now. But if that's your intention start a new thread called "uncritical worship of Nepali Maoism". To point out glaring contradictions in the Baidya faction's activity is not "derailing" - especially when you are happy to do the same in regard to the Dahal/Bhattarai mother Party, which I don't have a problem with you doing.

It is a news thread and that is how I would like it to stay. You can post all the arguments you want but I am not going to respond because I do not want to derail it of its intended course.

I will ask a Moderator to split the thread with your comments.

Ret
17th January 2013, 00:51
It is a news thread and that is how I would like it to stay.
That's not true. You can go back to earlier pages and read that it has long been a news thread where news is also commented on - I don't see a problem with that. It doesn't mean you have to participate in that or stop what you're already doing - but nor that you should come along and decide 'what the thread is' for others or what "its intended course" is.

Sentinel
17th January 2013, 01:37
Split from the Nepal Newswire. TGU is correct, the newswire threads are meant for 'breaking' news to be posted. If you see a news item you'd like to discuss please quote it in a new thread.

keystone
17th January 2013, 07:25
people should be wary of the bourgeois press and its reports on revolutionaries.

the characterization of the reasoning for the presence of the chinese ambassador is very incorrect here - this may be due to the hostile politics of the author of the original thread (what in some contexts might be referred to as "hating").

there is a discussion unfolding on kasama right now about the presence of the chinese ambassador - i suggest people check it out, it has contributions from comrades on the ground in kathmandu.
http://kasamaproject.org/2013/01/12/kasama-to-cpn-m-new-beginnings-on-the-communist-road/

Ret
17th January 2013, 19:29
Some people just never learn from their own mistakes - all the opportunism that helped lead Dahal & Bhattarrai's mother Party into their present situation - eg, the diplomatic games with India etc - is being created in mirror image by the Baidya splitters - and by their followers. And, predictably, the Western pro-maoists are already coming out with the same kind of lame excuses for it. Just as they did for the strike bans, wealth accumulation by the Party elite etc of the mother Party (even though the policies they once defended but are now implied to be 'revisionist' were present from the beginning of the 2005 Party program).

For Maoists, there was generally previously nothing more explicitly anti-Maoist, revisionist and counter-revolutionary than the Chinese CP for its role in ending what Maoists called 'socialism' in China. And during the Nepali guerilla war the Chinese CP denounced Prachanda & co as 'not real Maoists' and supplied weapons to the King to use against the guerrilla PLA (see here for revleft maoists righteously denouncing it; http://www.revleft.com/vb/chinese-revisionists-arm-t38934/index.html). Yet in the blink of an eye, for the sake of simple political opportunism (characterised as 'necessary realpolitik') against their more pro-India Maoist rivals, all this is forgotten and Baidya's Party are proclaimed by their devotees as great revolutionaries while getting into bed with the same people they denounced for decades as the worst "capitalist roaders" who crushed Chinese Maoism.

Just as they were led by their uncritical devotion into years of loyally defending and excusing the most blatant hypocrisies and reformism of Prachanda's Party, now they begin the same process with Baidya's operation. All in the name of 'necessary realpolitik' of course (but then, if pragmatism's a valid justification for Baidya & co, surely it's just as valid excuse for Dahal/Bhattarai's dealings with India?). If it had been Dahal & co now sucking up to China then the pro-maoist revlefters & kasama-ites would probably be shouting in chorus; 'Ah-ha! Yet more proof of their evil revisionism!'

And so black becomes white. As Marx said, "First time as tragedy, second time as farce".