Is Marxism/Communism incompatible with....?

[rolfwar]

Is Marxism/Communism incompatible with Epicureism ( don't mind the "political apathy", i mean epicureism without that) and the doctrines of Metriòtes and Autàrkeia?

[rolfwar]

nobody? really?

[Manic Impressive]

I know very little about Epicurus but apparently Marx did

Happy reading (http://www.google.com/search?as_sitesearch=www.marxists.org%2Farchive%2F marx%2F&hl=en&ie=8859-1&oe=8859-1&as_occt=any&num=30&btnG=Google+Search!&as_epq=&as_occt=all&as_q=Epicurus&as_oq=&as_eq=)

[Thirsty Crow]

Is Marxism/Communism incompatible with Epicureism ( don't mind the "political apathy", i mean epicureism without that) and the doctrines of Metriòtes and Autàrkeia?
Funny that you mention that, as I came accross this article:

http://www.libcom.org/library/critique-idea-happiness-refutation-hedonism-%E2%80%93-f%C3%A9lix-rodrigo-mora


The revolution is an expression of herculean efforts and maximum tension that can hardly be reconciled with the philistine accumulation of pleasant experiences, with the epicurean aspiration to the tranquility of the soul or with the vulgar everyday pursuit of happiness.


The philosophy of Epicurus deserves special refutation, with his motto of “pleasure is the only goal of life”; although elsewhere in his writings, mortally terrified by suffering, he renounced not only the experience of pleasure but the desire itself to live in dignity and self-respect, and even to live an upright life. Epicureanism, which is today very influential, contaminates a large part of the critique of contemporary society with its desire for egoist tranquility at any price, with its blind zeal to constitute a private “garden” where one can survive the evils and troubles of the world, without putting an end to the prevailing order and without even proposing to do so. Most of the radical currents of the last 40 years, with regard to both experience and ideas, amount to mere Epicureanism propagated to build spaces of survival, based on an ideology of existential mediocrity, intellectual cowardice, vital exhaustion and political conformism, all of which is soaked, as is to be expected, in an enormous mass of words and accessory gestures.

Take out of it what you will; I must admit that this is a fairly unique approach to the problem. Still have to go through it multiple times, probably.

[rolfwar]

Alright. thank you, i guess i'll have to figure out myself :)

[cantwealljustgetalong]

Epicurean philosophy is quietist, meaning it has no other real goal than to bring tranquility to the soul. Marxism is a philosophy of action and its purpose is to transform the world. So, they do not seem to be compatible philosophies.

[subcp]

I think a largely avoided topic that deserves more attention is exactly what individual communists 'get out of it'- what it means to us on an individual level, why we choose it. Other than a little by the Situationists and parts of Nihcom, it isn't really discussed anywhere. In that sense I don't think it is at all incompatible. Plus, if you take what Trotsky wrote in 'Literature and Revolution' seriously, about the creation of a new genesis in homo sapiens by freeing everyone to pursue life to their own ends in the fullest way possible, I don't think it is incompatible post-communisation.