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Questionable
16th January 2013, 01:05
The hands of the infamous "Doomsday Clock" will remain firmly in their place at five minutes to midnight — symbolizing humans' destruction — for the year 2013, scientists announced today (Jan. 14).
Keeping their outlook for the future of humanity quite dim, the group of scientists also wrote an open letter to President Barack Obama, urging him to partner with other global leaders to act on climate change.
The clock is a symbol of the threat of humanity's imminent destruction from nuclear or biological weapons, climate change and other human-caused disasters. In making their deliberations about how to update the clock's time this year, the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists considered the current state of nuclear arsenals around the globe, the slow and costly recovery from events like Fukushima nuclear meltdown, and extreme weather events that fit in with a pattern of global warming.
"2012 was the hottest year on record in the contiguous United States, marked by devastating drought and brutal storms," the letter says. "These extreme events are exactly what climate models predict for an atmosphere laden with greenhouse gases." [Doom and Gloom: 10 Post-Apocalyptic Worlds]
At the same time, the letter did give a nod to some progress, applauding the president for taking steps to "nudge the country along a more rational energy path," with his support for wind and other renewable energy sources.
"We have as much hope for Obama's second term in office as we did in 2010, when we moved back the hand of the Clock after his first year in office," Robert Socolow, chair of the board that determines the clock's position, said in a statement. "This is the year for U.S. leadership in slowing climate change and setting a path toward a world without nuclear weapons."
The Doomsday Clock came into being in 1947 as a way for atomic scientists to warn the world of the dangers of nuclear weapons. That year, the Bulletin set the time at seven minutes to midnight, with midnight symbolizing humanity's destruction. By 1949, it was at three minutes to midnight as the relationship between the United States and the Soviet Union deteriorated. In 1953, after the first test of the hydrogen bomb, the doomsday clock ticked to two minutes until midnight.
The Bulletin was at its most optimistic in 1991, when the Cold War thawed and the United States and Russia began cutting their arsenals. That year, the clock was set at 17 minutes to midnight.
From then until 2010, however, it was a gradual creep back toward destruction, as hopes of total nuclear disarmament vanished and threats of nuclear terrorism and climate change reared their heads. In 2010, the Bulletin found some hope in arms reduction treaties and international climate talks and bumped the minute hand of the Doomsday Clock back to six minutes from midnight from its previous post at five to midnight. But by 2012, the clock was pushed forward another minute.

http://news.yahoo.com/end-near-doomsday-clock-holds-5-til-midnight-232147095.html

Ostrinski
16th January 2013, 01:11
Let's hope that we manage to destroy capitalism before capitalism destroys us. God dammit, we're going to be living on a barren wasteland of a planet and people are still going to be saying "capitalism is a great system, we just need to regulate it more so that everyone pays their fair share!"

Art Vandelay
16th January 2013, 01:18
How anyone can deny climate change is a serious issues, at this point in time, is beyond me.

Comrade Samuel
16th January 2013, 01:35
How anyone can deny climate change is a serious issues, at this point in time, is beyond me.

It's a little something the cappies like to call "incentive" if you catch my drift.

Anyways.....yep.....we're screwed.

Art Vandelay
16th January 2013, 02:20
It's a little something the cappies like to call "incentive" if you catch my drift.

Anyways.....yep.....we're screwed.

Yes I believe I know what you are alluding to.

ÑóẊîöʼn
16th January 2013, 03:49
The Doomsday Clock makes at least some kind of sense as a way of giving a feel for how close we are to a global exchange of thermonuclear weaponry.

But as a way of giving us a feel for how close we are to doom because of climate change, it makes absolutely no fucking sense at all. Climate change isn't some sudden disaster that strikes with no (or hardly any) warning, unlike a nuclear attack. It strikes me as a pathetic attempt by a bunch of Cold War-era doom mongers to stay relevant. Sorry Doomsday Clock peeps, but the state of the art in disasterbation has moved on and you are irrelevant dinosaurs. Get back to us when there are once again two or more major nuclear powers pointing atomic weapons at each other who have really itchy trigger fingers.

Climate change is an important issue deserving of attention, but not in this sensationalist and obsolete manner.

Paul Pott
16th January 2013, 04:01
The doomsday clock reminds me of the old terror alert from ten years ago that was always on orange or red. When was the last time we weren't on the edge of oblivion?

Sensationalist crap.

Questionable
16th January 2013, 04:04
Conservative oil lobbyists have waged an extensive propaganda campaign against any scientific consensus regarding the existence of man-made climate change. If 'sensationalist crap' gets people to pay attention instead of shrugging it off as an unproved theory, I'm all for it. Our enemies fight dirty, why shouldn't we?

ÑóẊîöʼn
16th January 2013, 05:34
Conservative oil lobbyists have waged an extensive propaganda campaign against any scientific consensus regarding the existence of man-made climate change. If 'sensationalist crap' gets people to pay attention instead of shrugging it off as an unproved theory, I'm all for it. Our enemies fight dirty, why shouldn't we?

I disagree with assumption that sensationalist crap actually gets people motivated to do anything. Quite the opposite, I would say - if the worst predictions of the climate doomsters are true, then there's fuck-all point doing anything because it is already too damn late - we might as well be re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

Also, the remedies to climate change as proposed by most bourgeois environmentalists amount to an attack on the living standards of workers, and most ordinary people have some inkling of this when they seethe at one climate-change based rule for the common citizen, and another rule for the rich and powerful which gives them the ability to buy off and/or externalise any reductions in living standards (carbon trading anyone?).

Sensationalism and scaremongering only add to peoples' feelings that they are being conned.

piet11111
16th January 2013, 13:10
Get back to us when there are once again two or more major nuclear powers pointing atomic weapons at each other who have really itchy trigger fingers.

Seems like India and Pakistan are getting awfully riled up about that beheaded soldier.
(though in the hindu times or something like that it turns out that its common for both sides to behead the remains of opposing soldiers who died)

cynicles
18th January 2013, 00:52
Let's hope that we manage to destroy capitalism before capitalism destroys us. God dammit, we're going to be living on a barren wasteland of a planet and people are still going to be saying "capitalism is a great system, we just need to regulate it more so that everyone pays their fair share!"
If that happens do we get to say screw it and just start beating people that stupid or do we still have to hold back and argue with them like we do now?