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AgrarianCommunist
12th January 2013, 18:31
I'm from Portugal and i'm Anarcho-Communist-Agrarianist .

I don't like USSR/PRC/NK or Cuba since they control the meanings of production instead of being workers controlling the things .

In my country we don't have a truly communist since all of them are corrupt and put the Revolution by arms , DoTP , Socialization of meanings of production out of their agenda .

PCP the main " communist " party has no intention to change the things to communism but a " better " capitalism the same that USSR did .

I'm still a bit conservative on Social issues but i don't think it will be an major problem

Quail
12th January 2013, 20:06
Hi welcome to the board :)

Could you expand on what you mean by a bit conservative on social issues?

bad ideas actualised by alcohol
12th January 2013, 20:10
Does agrarianist mean you see peasantry as a revolutionary class and not the proletariat? If so, I would disagree. But I guess we'll probably discuss that if you start posting in threads, I assume you will.

Well, not the place for discussion, so welcome!

AgrarianCommunist
12th January 2013, 20:10
Hi welcome to the board :)

Could you expand on what you mean by a bit conservative on social issues?

Sure .

I don't accept Cosmopolitanism .

AgrarianCommunist
12th January 2013, 20:12
Does agrarianist mean you see peasantry as a revolutionary class and not the proletariat? If so, I would disagree. But I guess we'll probably discuss that if you start posting in threads, I assume you will.

Well, not the place for discussion, so welcome!

I see Peasantry equal to Proletariat and we don't need to put one above the others .
I'm in favor more Agrarian nation with only the necessary industry to be self-reliable and don't be dependent from others nations .

Domela Nieuwenhuis
12th January 2013, 20:22
Always glad to welcome a Anarcho-communist!

Welcome!

Yet_Another_Boring_Marxist
12th January 2013, 20:27
Hi welcome to the board :)

Could you expand on what you mean by a bit conservative on social issues?

I think it would be best for his sake that he doesn't. While I would love a discussion I remember one time that a communist from a more traditional part of the world (I think it was either Mexico or North Ireland) was banned because he wasn't pro-life. Personally I think the policy is absolutely fucking stupid but the simple truth is that if he expresses any social conservative belief of his then the mods will flip a shit and most likely throw you in OI. So my advice is that he should hold his nose. Which is a pity because I live in a semi-backward area of my state so I would love to interact with a fellow revolutionary who is struggling to overcome the baggage of social conservatism.

bad ideas actualised by alcohol
12th January 2013, 20:37
I see Peasantry equal to Proletariat and we don't need to put one above the others .
I'm in favor more Agrarian nation with only the necessary industry to be self-reliable and don't be dependent from others nations .

Anarcho-polpotism it is. :lol:

Just kidding, have to disagree with you on that. But, again, this probably isn't the place for discussion.

Pelarys
12th January 2013, 20:38
Welcome to the board! Cosmopolitanism is not what you meant I think.

AgrarianCommunist
12th January 2013, 20:43
Anarcho-polpotism it is. :lol:

Just kidding, have to disagree with you on that. But, again, this probably isn't the place for discussion.

I don't like Pol Pot and i'm pretty sure someone backed by USA and Imperial forces can't be a communist .


@Pelarys

Sorry i didn't know that .

bad ideas actualised by alcohol
12th January 2013, 20:44
I think it would be best for his sake that he doesn't. While I would love a discussion I remember one time that a communist from a more traditional part of the world (I think it was either Mexico or North Ireland) was banned because he wasn't pro-life. Personally I think the policy is absolutely fucking stupid but the simple truth is that if he expresses any social conservative belief of his then the mods will flip a shit and most likely throw you in OI. So my advice is that he should hold his nose. Which is a pity because I live in a semi-backward area of my state so I would love to interact with a fellow revolutionary who is struggling to overcome the baggage of social conservatism.

I usually don't but I take the admins' side on this one.
It is really impossible to have a double-standard on an internet forum. It would easily lead to an attitude of "you banned her but not him over the same issue'. Which is impossible to keep up on a forum.

JPSartre12
12th January 2013, 20:49
Welcome, comrade. If you have any questions, don't be afraid to ask.

TheRedAnarchist23
12th January 2013, 20:49
Olha! Um tuga! Pensei que era o único!

His opinion on the PCP, and the fact that he is anarcho-communist, serve to confirm everything I have said about Portugal so far. So take that!

#FF0000
12th January 2013, 20:50
I don't accept Abortion and Cosmopolitanism .

Oh boy. What do you mean by this? Mainly the cosmopolitanism part

TheRedAnarchist23
12th January 2013, 20:54
Oh boy. What do you mean by this?

If you go and tell the admins about this I will be the only portuguese person in the forum again. I don't want to be alone anymore!

AgrarianCommunist
12th January 2013, 20:55
Oh boy. What do you mean by this?
I'm Pro Life and i'm against cosmopolitan cities .

I prefer Rural world over the cosmopolitan we see in the major cities .

AgrarianCommunist
12th January 2013, 20:58
Olha! Um tuga! Pensei que era o único!

His opinion on the PCP, and the fact that he is anarcho-communist, serve to confirm everything I have said about Portugal so far. So take that!

Eu também pensava isso mesmo .

If i had to vote it will be on MRPP since at least they didn't change his views when the winds changes like some parties .

United Left has too many people and i doubt they will put socialism on their agenda .

bad ideas actualised by alcohol
12th January 2013, 21:03
If you go and tell the admins about this I will be the only portuguese person in the forum again. I don't want to be alone anymore!

Stop encouraging me to tell the admins.

#FF0000
12th January 2013, 21:24
I prefer Rural world over the cosmopolitan we see in the major cities .

I see. I'm not quite sure what you mean by "cosmopolitan", though.

TheRedAnarchist23
12th January 2013, 21:25
I see. I'm not quite sure what you mean by "cosmopolitan", though.

I beleive he means urban.

AgrarianCommunist
12th January 2013, 21:36
I see. I'm not quite sure what you mean by "cosmopolitan", though.
I wanted to say Urban Cities .

Flying Purple People Eater
12th January 2013, 21:41
What's so special about having some sexist primmie from Portugal unrestricted? Can they not still post in OI?

Hello, and welcome to Revleft. I would like to hear more about why you are against the ability to abort.

Rafiq
12th January 2013, 21:42
AgarianCommunist = German (Feudal) Socialist. He's a reactionary even by Liberal standards.

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bad ideas actualised by alcohol
12th January 2013, 21:45
Yeah seems they're a primmie.
Also Portugal isn't really that underdeveloped is it?
At least I can't recall that being the case, but it has been a few years since I was there.
So I see no reason against them being restricted at all.

TheRedAnarchist23
12th January 2013, 21:53
Yeah seems they're a primmie.

Preference for rural areas is not the same as primitivism.


Also Portugal isn't really that underdeveloped is it?
At least I can't recall that being the case, but it has been a few years since I was there.

You went to the tourist part.


So I see no reason against them being restricted at all.

Shouldn't this count as cyberbullying?


AgarianCommunist = German (Feudal) Socialist. He's a reactionary even by Liberal standards.

Maybe you think you can survive without having anything to eat, but I don't. Agrarian communities are even more important than urban communities.


What's so special about having some sexist primmie from Portugal unrestricted?

That was a nationalist comment, and I take that as an insult to my country.
I demand an appology!

AgrarianCommunist
12th January 2013, 21:55
I don't to want an return to Feudal society but more focus on Agriculture and Land rather than industrialization which is the main responsible along with Cars causing damage on environment .

My country needs to go back to " Land " and starts to be more productive on Fruits,Fishing and other things to insure they will be self reliable instead of import food from foreign countries and give money to imperialist countries .

I reject Abortion because we are killing an human being and if the woman was responsible enough to had sexual relationship should be mature enough to give birth .
I can only accept abortion if the Woman's life is threaten and if it was a case of rape or Incest .

bad ideas actualised by alcohol
12th January 2013, 22:00
Preference for rural areas is not the same as primitivism.

Fair enough.




You went to the tourist part.

No not particularly.




Shouldn't this count as cyberbullying?

If saying someone should be banned for being a reactionary counts as cyber bullying, yeah sure it is.

TheRedAnarchist23
12th January 2013, 22:05
No not particularly.

Well, I am glad you clarified that. I feel so enlightened now.
You forgot to say to what part of the country you went to.


If saying someone should be banned for being a reactionary counts as cyber bullying, yeah sure it is.

Good to know you do not beleive that a revolution should be done by ALL of the working class. Your atitude can be compared to that of nazis, because it is as disgusting as their ideas on races.

If someone has a certain opinion on something and you do not agree with their opinion you do not publicaly accuse them of being a traitor to the revolution, you teach them.

bad ideas actualised by alcohol
12th January 2013, 22:16
Well, I am glad you clarified that. I feel so enlightened now.
You forgot to say to what part of the country you went to.

I was eight. I don't remember and won't call my parents to ask because someone on a forum asked me. The place I was wasn't really near any town, it was in a place without a real road and like one other house, to be fair that was one by a dutchman, the nearest town was 20-ish minutes away and was really small. I remember being at a little lake and there were only 4 portugese people and us. Not really tourist is it?



Good to know you do not beleive that a revolution should be done by ALL of the working class. Your atitude can be compared to that of nazis, because it is as disgusting as their ideas on races.

Peasantry isn't really the working class. Good to know I'm a nazi, wasn't aware.


If someone has a certain opinion on something and you do not agree with their opinion you do not publicaly accuse them of being a traitor to the revolution, you teach them.

Hypocrite, you just said I was similar to a Nazi. Certainly they are traitors to 'the' revolution.

If it helps you sleep at night, I have called you a traitor of the revolution as well.
So you two can now start a little secret-club to hate on me or something. Seems you aren't lonely because being the only Portuguese here after all, you should thank me mate.

Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages
12th January 2013, 22:28
Peasants aren't part of the working class. Are there peasants in Portugal? Why is this an issue? I'd like to hear the op's justification for their opposition to abortion.

#FF0000
12th January 2013, 22:51
I wanted to say Urban Cities .

Yeah I wasn't sure what you meant because when I hear people talk about "cosmopolitanism", they usually mean, well, internationalism.

AgrarianCommunist
12th January 2013, 22:59
Sorry for any misunderstood .

Portugal in the coast is developed but when you go to the center and closer with Spanish Border you will see an unpopulated country , massive desertification and lack of industries and agriculture camps .

So we need to correct the country problem by improving Agrarian Farms collective owned and Fishing Owned Communities to achieve self reliance on those matters .

The people are important no matter their condition and Marxist always talk about anti-discrimination but what you said about peasantry is discrimination of one class.