Behold, the Future of Men's Fashion.

[Il Medico]

At least, according to the London's Men's Collection (http://shine.yahoo.com/photos/ive-seen-future-mens-fashion-slideshow/-photo-2567348-210500977.html). Pretty soon men every where will be sporting shoulderless goth trench coats, ugly dresses, vampire/meth teeth, storm debris masks, shoe polish monocles, and monstrous knitted mitts and hats.

I'm pretty sure the fashion industry has decided to just go full parody mode at this point.

[Igor]

who doesn't already? geeze revleft get on with the times

[bcbm]

a lot of haute couture isn't really meant to be 'stuff you would actually wear out' its more of a conceptual visual arts thing

[Il Medico]

a lot of haute couture isn't really meant to be 'stuff you would actually wear out' its more of a conceptual visual arts thing
Yeah, I know, still hideous all the same.

[Blake's Baby]

Oh god, i'd just managed to convince myself that THIS




http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y436/slothjabber/image-8_zpscb1ca7b6.jpg


was the future of men's fashion. When one gets to a certain age and turns a bit portly, one appreciates a good double-breasted jacket.

[l'Enfermé]

Something is wrong with the world when this look:

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/PNkzzmdzIuTooALNqlX7qg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD01ODY7cT04NTt3PTM4OQ--/http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/blogs/partner/2567353.png

Is the least ridiculous in the entire collection.

[bcbm]

that looks awesome actually

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Black shirt, leather coat and jeans.
That's the look.
Anyone who wants to change that is revisionist scum.

[Blake's Baby]

You wanna look a hipster-Nazi-Chekist?

(Guess what I wear about town. Hint: I was a Goth in the '80s)

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

You wanna look a hipster-Nazi-Chekist?

(Guess what I wear about town. Hint: I was a Goth in the '80s)

Or a Black Panter...
If we talk Dzerzhinsky-time Cheka, definitely...

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

To be fair, I like my leather coat shorter than the Chekist ones.
Would it then still count as a coat?
Much like the ones most BPs wore.

[Ostrinski]

I like overcoats and trench coats and such. Much more Bolshevik looking than leather jackets.

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Oh come on. We all know the Bolsheviks were into some kinky stuff with leather.

[Blake's Baby]

Leather overcoats FTW

(I've just checked googleimages: my leather overcoat is similar to one called 'WWII German Leather Overcoat SS Gestapo'. Which is nice.)

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Leather overcoats FTW

Who's the hipster nazi-chekist now?

[Blake's Baby]

That was kinda the point. Skinny black jeans, leather overcoat, black shirt - I've been wearing that since about 1987 (before that I was wearing gaberdine coats).

[#FF0000]

I'd wear that outfit in #13 in a second

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

That was kinda the point. Skinny black jeans, leather overcoat, black shirt - I've been wearing that since about 1987 (before that I was wearing gaberdine coats).

So except the overcoat we're the same.
I don't exactly wear skinnyjeans, just skinny jeans, if you mean those colored things kids today wear.

I wear skinny dark Levis jeans (shameless plug, now give me free cloathes Levis, you capitalist bastards). Because I'm small and those are basically the only ones that fit me somewhat good.

[Ostrinski]

I used to wear skinny jeans back when I was a post-hardcore kiddo

[Blake's Baby]

Been wearing those mofos since 1984. The year I discovered Stiff Little Fingers and the Sex Pistols, and stopped listening to Metal.

[Paul Pott]

Because I'm small


Hahaha

[A Revolutionary Tool]

Sums it up well
http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/zCx6cqeMvImoYRJ6fCkdtg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD01ODc7cT04NTt3PTM4OQ--/http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/blogs/partner/2567350.png

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Hahaha

Want even more fun?
I do have a giant nose and feet, so I look well like a clown.

You know what they say about men with a big nose and feet right?
*wink wink* ladies....

[Ostrinski]

Want even more fun?
I do have a giant nose and feet, so I look well like a clown.

You know what they say about men with a big nose and feet right?
*wink wink* ladies....big shoes?

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

big shoes?

:(

[A Revolutionary Tool]

This thread just reminds me how much I hate fashion.

[Il Medico]

Black shirt, leather coat and jeans.
That's the look.
Anyone who wants to change that is revisionist scum.


You wanna look a hipster-Nazi-Chekist?
Don't know what a hipster-nazi-chekist would dress like, but to my American mind negative creep seems to think the 50's greaser look (with a small difference in shirt color) is 'the look'.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_meis9j6bNR1qh48suo1_400.jpg

[Homo Songun]

http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/blogs/partner/2567350.png

"Capitalism is a hell of a drug"

[Blake's Baby]

Don't know what a hipster-nazi-chekist would dress like, but to my American mind negative creep seems to think the 50's greaser look (with a small difference in shirt color) is 'the look'...


Ah, I read 'shirt' as... shirt, not t-shirt, so a shirt with a collar, and 'coat' as long coat, not jacket... and I assumed the jeans were black, like the shirt and the coat.

So maybe just a little more like...http://www.revleft.com/vb/leftcommunistnetwork.freeforums.orghttp://
http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y436/slothjabber/goth_zpsf750d42c.jpg

... only wearing a shirt.
http://www.revleft.com/vb/leftcommunistnetwork.freeforums.org

[La Guaneña]

Really short shorts and t-shirts for the win.

[Jesus Saves Gretzky Scores]

Don't know what a hipster-nazi-chekist would dress like, but to my American mind negative creep seems to think the 50's greaser look (with a small difference in shirt color) is 'the look'.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_meis9j6bNR1qh48suo1_400.jpg

Nazi Fonzie. Heeeeeeeeeeeil!

[bcbm]

Ah, I read 'shirt' as... shirt, not t-shirt, so a shirt with a collar, and 'coat' as long coat, not jacket... and I assumed the jeans were black, like the shirt and the coat.

So maybe just a little more like...http://www.revleft.com/vb/leftcommunistnetwork.freeforums.orghttp://
http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y436/slothjabber/goth_zpsf750d42c.jpg

... only wearing a shirt.
http://www.revleft.com/vb/leftcommunistnetwork.freeforums.org

wow that is hideous

[Ostrinski]

Hey there is Blake's Baby there on the right on the second picture :D.

[Blake's Baby]

I'm wearing that right now.

Hey, it's cold in here.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

Don't know what a hipster-nazi-chekist would dress like, but to my American mind negative creep seems to think the 50's greaser look (with a small difference in shirt color) is 'the look'.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_meis9j6bNR1qh48suo1_400.jpg

from the neck down that's a cool look. depending on the footwear.

Don't understand why guys use gel/wax in their hair (unless they're trying to achieve some nuts mohawk, then it might be justified), looks so gross. I've never met a girl who likes that shit, either.

it's all about the leather jacket, tight trousers and big steel toes.

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/QsMzOT2pVRLnUJQX_rzhFQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD01OTA7cT04NTt3PTM5MA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/blogs/partner/2567354.png

^This should be explored more.

[Il Medico]

Ah, I read 'shirt' as... shirt, not t-shirt, so a shirt with a collar, and 'coat' as long coat, not jacket... and I assumed the jeans were black, like the shirt and the coat.

So maybe just a little more like...http://www.revleft.com/vb/leftcommunistnetwork.freeforums.orghttp://
http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y436/slothjabber/goth_zpsf750d42c.jpg

... only wearing a shirt.
http://www.revleft.com/vb/leftcommunistnetwork.freeforums.org
So hideously dressed vampires then.

I don't think there is any way for someone to wear a black leather trench coat and not look like a nob.

[Il Medico]

Regular trench coats are the shit, though.
http://www.allonlinesstyle.com/images/Burberry_Mens_Modern_Double_Breasted_Trench_Coat_K haki.jpg

[PC LOAD LETTER]

http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/QsMzOT2pVRLnUJQX_rzhFQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD01OTA7cT04NTt3PTM5MA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/blogs/partner/2567354.png

^This should be explored more.
I'm definitely going to the bar this friday in one of those

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Ah, I read 'shirt' as... shirt, not t-shirt, so a shirt with a collar, and 'coat' as long coat, not jacket... and I assumed the jeans were black, like the shirt and the coat.

So maybe just a little more like...http://www.revleft.com/vb/leftcommunistnetwork.freeforums.orghttp://
http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y436/slothjabber/goth_zpsf750d42c.jpg

... only wearing a shirt.
http://www.revleft.com/vb/leftcommunistnetwork.freeforums.org

So am I the only one who likes this look? Maybe I have perverse tastes after all...

[Blake's Baby]

Goth in the house.

Well, I wouldn't go outside now would I? It's bright and there are other people.

[bcbm]

So am I the only one who likes this look? Maybe I have perverse tastes after all...

yes. rule of thumb: never dress like you are in the matrix

[Blake's Baby]

What do you mean '... like you're in the Matrix'? You mean, you never took the red pill?

[bcbm]

nah i usually go for the e pill

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

yes. rule of thumb: never dress like you are in the matrix

I liked long black leather jackets before The Matrix.

[Art Vandelay]

I usually just wear jeans and a t shirt, with a hoodie.

[bcbm]

I liked long black leather jackets before The Matrix.

doesnt matter, the matrix ruined them forever

[Blake's Baby]

Yeah, not the Gestapo or the Cheka. Those associations are fine.

That's why Keanu Reeves is worse than Hitler.

[Dennis the 'Bloody Peasant']

Ugh, fashion...I've never understood it and whenever I tried to get involved it failed(as a teen especially, trying to wear what the others wore and being mocked for picking the wrong thing).
Geek tee, jeans, basketball shoes. Done.

[Quail]

I think my mum was always disappointed I never got into fashion. I used to be a bit of a goth as a teenager, but that slowly just turned into jeans + baggy black t shirt + hoodie. It would be nice to wear skirts or dresses and I do wear them from time to time, but firstly they're impractical and tend not to have pockets and secondly I do things like sit with my legs apart or hop over walls/fences so unless I want everyone to see my pants, it's best if I just wear trousers.

I don't know if any of you guys wear skinny jeans, but I find them a bit annoying sometimes. I have a couple of pairs which are so skinny it's hard to get them over my feet, though they fit fine otherwise. It's hard not to buy skinny jeans now though since they seem to be all that's in the shops.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

I don't like skinny jeans, mainly because as a tall & skinny person already I think I look ridiculous in such clothing. Gimme baggy cargo pants or baggy combat trousers any day.

Besides, who ever thought it was good look to have legs like pipe cleaners? I don't think that's a look that suits men or women. It suits scarecrows, though.


doesnt matter, the matrix ruined them forever

That's really stupid, to be honest. If I were to avoid clothing items on the basis of movies I didn't like, then I wouldn't wear anything at all.

That sort of attitude seems to me to be just the inverse of fanboyism, and just as stupid, silly and pointless. I'm not going to let Hollywood dictate my fashion sense, in either a positive or negative way.

[bcbm]

Yeah, not the Gestapo or the Cheka. Those associations are fine.

That's why Keanu Reeves is worse than Hitler.

quasi-fascist fashion has always been in vogue


I don't like skinny jeans, mainly because as a tall & skinny person already I think I look ridiculous in such clothing. Gimme baggy cargo pants or baggy combat trousers any day.

Besides, who ever thought it was good look to have legs like pipe cleaners? I don't think that's a look that suits men or women. It suits scarecrows, though.

clothes should be at least somewhat form fitting, obviously tailored to your specific body type but too skinny or too baggy is almost never the way to go. for men a good, straight and somewhat narrow trouser is the rule. for women there is more flexibility.


That's really stupid, to be honest. If I were to avoid clothing items on the basis of movies I didn't like, then I wouldn't wear anything at all.it doesnt have anything to do with the quality of the movie. its that wearing around a bunch of black leather (esp long coat) makes you look like a complete tool. upper to mid thigh is generally the best length for a longer jacket, unless it is a raincoat, topcoat or you are a gunslinger in the wild west.


That sort of attitude seems to me to be just the inverse of fanboyism, and just as stupid, silly and pointless. I'm not going to let Hollywood dictate my fashion sense, in either a positive or negative way.well i was really just making a joke, they were not cool long before the matrix.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

clothes should be at least somewhat form fitting, obviously tailored to your specific body type but too skinny or too baggy is almost never the way to go. for men a good, straight and somewhat narrow trouser is the rule. for women there is more flexibility.

Who made this rule and why should we listen to them?


it doesnt have anything to do with the quality of the movie. its that wearing around a bunch of black leather (esp long coat) makes you look like a complete tool.

Why? Isn't it utterly superficial to judge people like that? Personally I think most tracksuit-style clothing is as ugly as all shit, but one of my closest friends likes that look and he is a rock-solid guy who I would trust my life with.

[Ostrinski]

I just wear jeans and v necks all year round.

[bcbm]

Who made this rule and why should we listen to them?

people who know how to dress themselves


Why? Isn't it utterly superficial to judge people like that?

yes.


Personally I think most tracksuit-style clothing is as ugly as all shit, but one of my closest friends likes that look and he is a rock-solid guy who I would trust my life with.

looking like a tool doesnt necessarily mean you are one.

[Monkeyboy]

Fashion... Even I have fallen for it, bought some nice sport coats and blazers.
I thought it would make me look more professional when I did a study. But I believe it is a scientific fact people do judge you (stereotyping) on your clothes.

I have a lot of normal clothes too, though. Well, I have a hoody with revolution on it.

I don't buy much clothes at all, some are really old, and I always have those sports coats and blazers if I want to impress.

I try nowadays to buy as much from second-hand stores.

[homegrown terror]

fashion is nothing but the capitalisation of style. i make/modify my own clothes rather than wear things just the way they're sold. whether it's something simple like adding epaulets to a suit jacket, or something as complex as a full-scale studded and painted vest, i try to make it so that everything i wear looks at least slightly different than it did when some knob-end said "this is how this guy should dress."

[A Revolutionary Tool]

fashion is nothing but the capitalisation of style. i make/modify my own clothes rather than wear things just the way they're sold. whether it's something simple like adding epaulets to a suit jacket, or something as complex as a full-scale studded and painted vest, i try to make it so that everything i wear looks at least slightly different than it did when some knob-end said "this is how this guy should dress."

You're so fucking hardcore omg

[homegrown terror]

You're so fucking hardcore omg

no, i'm not.

[Quail]

fashion is nothing but the capitalisation of style. i make/modify my own clothes rather than wear things just the way they're sold. whether it's something simple like adding epaulets to a suit jacket, or something as complex as a full-scale studded and painted vest, i try to make it so that everything i wear looks at least slightly different than it did when some knob-end said "this is how this guy should dress."
I've been doing stuff like this recently. Sewing bits onto clothes and I'm totally into tie-dye now haha it's fun and looks cool.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

fashion is nothing but the capitalisation of style. i make/modify my own clothes rather than wear things just the way they're sold. whether it's something simple like adding epaulets to a suit jacket, or something as complex as a full-scale studded and painted vest, i try to make it so that everything i wear looks at least slightly different than it did when some knob-end said "this is how this guy should dress."

no no no don't you get it your supposed to follow these silly little rules that make absolutely no sense otherwise you're just some weirdo or a massive tool

why? only reason I've been given is "because", you have to obey these silly little strictures or risk being damned by the fashion gods because it's not as if one's choice of attire is some kind of avenue for self-expression or any kind of loony lefty nonsense like that

[Il Medico]

The fashion gods will smite thee heathen!

Though in seriousness, modded clothes can look pretty sweet. However, there's been a huge explosion of it's popularity around here with college kids and sadly for every person who knows what they're doing and makes some awesome threads, there's like ten who look like they accidentally dropped their outfit in a paper shredder.

[bcbm]

no no no don't you get it your supposed to follow these silly little rules that make absolutely no sense

the 'rules' are general ideas of fashion to provide guidance in styling a look that works with your body makes you look good. so in that regard they do 'make sense' but of course they are arbitrary and occur within a certain cultural context; what applies in london may not apply in lagos, etc


otherwise you're just some weirdo or a massive tool

well you can push the weirdo thing into an avant-garde sort of deal but it is a pretty thin line.


why? only reason I've been given is "because", you have to obey these silly little strictures or risk being damned by the fashion gods because it's not as if one's choice of attire is some kind of avenue for self-expression or any kind of loony lefty nonsense like that

good grief you're taking this much too seriously. nobody cares what you wear, do whatever makes you happy but there are general rules based on current trends and styles to achieve an ideal style for your body, coloring, etc. and it is certainly possible to achieve 'self-expression' within them, to say nothing of whether or not ignoring them is really all that 'out there,' since just about everyone does to some extent.



Though in seriousness, modded clothes can look pretty sweet. However there been a huge explosion of it's popularity around here with college kids and sadly for every person who knows what they're doing and makes some awesome threads, there's like ten who look like they accidentally dropped their outfit in a paper shredder.

some designers recently have drawn inspiration from a japanese tradition where peasants would sew random scraps into a jacket, producing a totally unique piece and some of the results are pretty cool.

[Prof. Oblivion]

Who made this rule and why should we listen to them?

Because clothes that are not made to fit you look bad...because they don't fit you. A shirt that is too tight looks just as bad as a shirt that is too large; it's unflattering and makes you look sloppy.


why? only reason I've been given is "because", you have to obey these silly little strictures or risk being damned by the fashion gods because it's not as if one's choice of attire is some kind of avenue for self-expression or any kind of loony lefty nonsense like thatTo be honest this just sounds like an excuse to not wear clothes that fit properly.

As for "self expression" there are ways of bending or breaking the rules and still looking good. But in order to break the rules you have to understand them.

As for the link in the OP, these two by Craig Green are actually pretty great:

http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/QsMzOT2pVRLnUJQX_rzhFQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD01OTA7cT04NTt3PTM5MA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/blogs/partner/2567354.png

http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/Z7dQS9I4Xz.BnsnIn.3D1g--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD01OTA7cT04NTt3PTM4OQ--/http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/blogs/partner/2567356.png

[A Revolutionary Tool]

Yeah, walking around with a broken fence on your face looks pretty awesome :thumbup1:

[Blake's Baby]

Yeah, walking around with a broken fence on your face looks pretty awesome :thumbup1:

Quoted for truth.

Do you have it in dark green?

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

the 'rules' are general ideas of fashion to provide guidance in styling a look that works with your body makes you look good. so in that regard they do 'make sense' but of course they are arbitrary and occur within a certain cultural context; what applies in london may not apply in lagos, etc

That's kind of my point. I think the only truly universal "rules" of fashion in general (as opposed to specific regional or (sub)cultural styles) are ultimately related to practicality, such as stuff that might get snagged on things in certain situations.


well you can push the weirdo thing into an avant-garde sort of deal but it is a pretty thin line.

Well personally I'm not that experimental, but the idea that it's some kind of faux pas for a guy to wear a coat longer than knee length is something that A) I've never fucking heard of before and B) makes no sense on its own terms.

I mean it would make sense if one's lifestyle involves being in close proximity to machinery which long coats could get caught on, but otherwise?


good grief you're taking this much too seriously. nobody cares what you wear, do whatever makes you happy but there are general rules based on current trends and styles to achieve an ideal style for your body, coloring, etc. and it is certainly possible to achieve 'self-expression' within them, to say nothing of whether or not ignoring them is really all that 'out there,' since just about everyone does to some extent.

Sorry, rules bother me. They need justification otherwise they are arbitrary and can thus be safely ignored.


Because clothes that are not made to fit you look bad...because they don't fit you. A shirt that is too tight looks just as bad as a shirt that is too large; it's unflattering and makes you look sloppy.

If the buttonholes are being visibly stretched or the hem is dragging along the floor I can certainly understand how that can be too tight or too loose respectively... but those are extreme examples. It's entirely possible to wear clothing that is tighter or looser than normal without reaching such limits.


To be honest this just sounds like an excuse to not wear clothes that fit properly.

I don't need an excuse, I wear what I can afford. Personally if I can make the choice, looser is better than tight for my tastes and purposes.


As for "self expression" there are ways of bending or breaking the rules and still looking good. But in order to break the rules you have to understand them.

Well that's the crux of the matter isn't it? "Looking good" is to some degree at least subjective and it strikes me as foolish in the extreme to make rules about things which can vary in lots of ways from person to person.

Personally I think skinny legs on blokes are hideous which is why I don't wear those ludicrous pipecleaner-skinny trousers which emphasise that and which seem to have become popular over the last decade, making me feel old.

[Blake's Baby]

...
Personally I think skinny legs on blokes are hideous which is why I don't wear those ludicrous pipecleaner-skinny trousers which emphasise that and which seem to have become popular over the last decade, making me feel old.

Funny, I suspect I'm older than you, as they make me fell young. In about 2003, the style of trousers that I've been wearing since about 1984 came back into fashion. They have been out since 1989, when baggy jeans AKA 'shit-sacks' came in on the back of the 'Madchester' craze. Horrible. Anyway, skintight black jeans came back and a lot of old goths were happy and in fashion again (a baffling experience for us on both counts). I blame the Killers wanting to sound like the Cure on that first album.

[Prof. Oblivion]

Yeah, walking around with a broken fence on your face looks pretty awesome :thumbup1:

As another poster sad, these types of designs and shows aren't really made to be worn out in public. As for the fence mask, that's to draw attention and not a piece that anyone could actually buy or want to wear in public. Visually, I find it appealing and goes well with the rest of the outfit.

High fashion is a form of visual art, which is why it is unlike what you see most people wearing in public.

[Prof. Oblivion]

That's kind of my point. I think the only truly universal "rules" of fashion in general (as opposed to specific regional or (sub)cultural styles) are ultimately related to practicality, such as stuff that might get snagged on things in certain situations.



Well personally I'm not that experimental, but the idea that it's some kind of faux pas for a guy to wear a coat longer than knee length is something that A) I've never fucking heard of before and B) makes no sense on its own terms.

I mean it would make sense if one's lifestyle involves being in close proximity to machinery which long coats could get caught on, but otherwise?



Sorry, rules bother me. They need justification otherwise they are arbitrary and can thus be safely ignored.



If the buttonholes are being visibly stretched or the hem is dragging along the floor I can certainly understand how that can be too tight or too loose respectively... but those are extreme examples. It's entirely possible to wear clothing that is tighter or looser than normal without reaching such limits.



I don't need an excuse, I wear what I can afford. Personally if I can make the choice, looser is better than tight for my tastes and purposes.



Well that's the crux of the matter isn't it? "Looking good" is to some degree at least subjective and it strikes me as foolish in the extreme to make rules about things which can vary in lots of ways from person to person.

Personally I think skinny legs on blokes are hideous which is why I don't wear those ludicrous pipecleaner-skinny trousers which emphasise that and which seem to have become popular over the last decade, making me feel old.

I don't think there's a rule about wearing coats past the knees. I have a few trench coats that go up to if not past my knees. It all really depends on context. I don't think looking like you're out of the Matrix (as is the given example) would look good on most people but it all really depends. As for fit, yes there are a wide variety of fits that will still fit. It's not like you can only wear one type of pants. But it really depends on the context of the whole outfit. There's instances in which skinnier pants, for example, would look better than looser ones. The further on either end of the skinny/baggy spectrum you go, the tougher it is to pull off. So really it all depends.

And as for getting what you can afford, I don't think that's an excuse to wear ill fitting clothes. It's easy to find a good fit in any price range, and even if you have an awkward body shape a tailor isn't that expensive.

Finally, I think you have a misunderstanding of men's style. Certainly there are "hard" rules, but these are generally extremely basic (good fit, match your shoes to your belt when wearing a suit, don't wear a suit vest outside of the suit, etc.). Everything else really depends on context and how it works within the outfit as a whole.

Finally, there is a difference between fashion and style. Style is something that is almost timeless and doesn't really change. For example a great fitting charcoal suit is always going to look good (provided you aren't overdressed for the occasion, of course). Fashion is more transient and temporal, and changed with the times. I'd consider fads, as the previous poster mentioned, the very bottom ring of fashion.

[bcbm]

i am glad someone else here 'gets fashion'

[Il Medico]

some designers recently have drawn inspiration from a japanese tradition where peasants would sew random scraps into a jacket, producing a totally unique piece and some of the results are pretty cool.
I haven't seen any of those, but it sounds like they could make some pretty sweet stuff if I'm picturing it correctly.


...came in on the back of the 'Madchester' craze...
Is it weird that, as an American, I actually know what you're referring to? It feels slightly weird to me.


As another poster sad, these types of designs and shows aren't really made to be worn out in public. As for the fence mask, that's to draw attention and not a piece that anyone could actually buy or want to wear in public. Visually, I find it appealing and goes well with the rest of the outfit.

High fashion is a form of visual art, which is why it is unlike what you see most people wearing in public.
Seriously? The fence mask dude looks like he's a stage extra in 'Hurricane Katrina: The Musical'. And yeah, I know it's art, I just think it's ugly art.

Although, I'm actually kinda fond of 'Umbrella Santa', the outfit looks like it was ripped straight out of a Wes Anderson movie.

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Although, I'm actually kinda fond of 'Umbrella Santa', the outfit looks like it was ripped straight out of a Wes Anderson movie.

it reminded me of the elder tanukis in pompoko

http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/images/pompoko06.jpg

[A Revolutionary Tool]

As another poster sad, these types of designs and shows aren't really made to be worn out in public. As for the fence mask, that's to draw attention and not a piece that anyone could actually buy or want to wear in public. Visually, I find it appealing and goes well with the rest of the outfit.

High fashion is a form of visual art, which is why it is unlike what you see most people wearing in public.
I know they're not supposed to be worn in public but I still think the whole thing is completely ridiculous. I just don't understand "high" art, or a lot of art in the first place. Especially this "high" society type shit. It makes me cringe.

[Prof. Oblivion]

I know they're not supposed to be worn in public but I still think the whole thing is completely ridiculous. I just don't understand "high" art, or a lot of art in the first place. Especially this "high" society type shit. It makes me cringe.

If you don't understand it then you shouldn't have an opinion on it.

[Blake's Baby]

If you don't unerstand why ART has the opinions s/he has, you shouldn't have an opinion on whether ART should have an opinion.