Stalinist henchmen... SURVIVOR! Second Edition

[Ismail]

Three years ago I was bored and decided to do what I called "Stalinist Henchman Survivor (http://www.revleft.com/vb/stalinist-henchmen-survivor-t118150/index.html)" which was slightly amusing. I figure I'd do another one.

Basically, there's a list of people (in this case Stalin's "henchmen," rather loosely defined) and the goal is to vote to eliminate a person from the list, and thus eventually the "best" of the bunch remains. Basically, seeing who RevLeft considers the "best Stalinist" out of the bunch. Ties get eliminated simultaneously. Each round is one day long.

Alexei Kosygin
Anastas Mikoyan
Andrei Andreyev
Andrei Gromyko
Andrei Vyshinsky
Andrei Zhdanov
Andrija Hebrang
Bolesław Bierut
Boris Ponomarev
Dmitri Manuilsky
Dolores Ibárruri
Earl Browder
Ernst Thälmann
Enver Hoxha
Gao Gang
Genrikh Yagoda
Georgi Dimitrov
Georgi Malenkov
Georgi Zhukov
Gheorghe Gheorghiu-Dej
Harry Haywood
Ho Chi Minh
Ivan Maisky
Jacques Duclos
Jānis Rudzutaks
Josip Broz Tito
Khorloogiin Choibalsan
Kim Il Sung
Klement Gottwald
Klement Voroshilov
Lavrentri Beria
Lazar Kaganovich
Mao Zedong
Maurice Thorez
Matyás Rákosi
Maxim Gorky
Maxim Litvinov
Mikhail Kalinin
Mikhail Suslov
Nikita Khrushchev
Nikolai Bukharin
Nikolai Bulganin
Nikolai Shvernik
Nikolai Voznesensky
Nikolai Yezhov
Otto Kuusinen
Palmiro Togliatti
Sergei Kirov
Sergo Ordzhonikidze
Stanislav Kosior
Trofim Lysenko
Vyacheslav Menzhinsky
Vyacheslav Molotov
Walter Ulbricht
Wang Ming
Wilhelm Pieck
William Z. Foster

So yeah pick a name from the list. Fin.

[Roach]

Yagoda

[Comrade Samuel]

Nikita Khrushchev

[Comrade Dracula]

Khrushchev. Let the purges begin!

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Hoxha

[Comrade Samuel]

Hoxha

Dude, Ismail is going to find you.

[Grenzer]

Togliatti needs to go.

Edit: On second thought, Browder. I will vote for him every day until he's gone. Worst guy on the list by far.

[Os Cangaceiros]

Yezhov. Stalin did a good thing making sure that motherfucker died.

[soso17]

Josip Broz Tito...good riddance!

[Ismail]

Khrushchev 2
Yezhov 1
Tito 1
Browder 1
Yagoda 1
Hoxha 1

Khrushchev got two votes whereas others only got 1, so Khrushchev shall dieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

After Timoshenko and Khrushchev botched a military operation during the Great Patriotic War, Stalin, in front of a number of other commanders, later "emptied his pipe on Khrushchev's head: 'That's in accordance with Roman tradition,' he said. 'When a Roman commander lost a battle, he poured ashes on his own head . . . the greatest disgrace a commander could endure.'" (Stalin: Court of the Red Tsar, p. 416.)

Round 2

Alexei Kosygin
Anastas Mikoyan
Andrei Andreyev
Andrei Gromyko
Andrei Vyshinsky
Andrei Zhdanov
Andrija Hebrang
Bolesław Bierut
Boris Ponomarev
Dmitri Manuilsky
Dolores Ibárruri
Earl Browder
Ernst Thälmann
Enver Hoxha
Gao Gang
Genrikh Yagoda
Georgi Dimitrov
Georgi Malenkov
Georgi Zhukov
Gheorghe Gheorghiu-Dej
Harry Haywood
Ho Chi Minh
Ivan Maisky
Jacques Duclos
Jānis Rudzutaks
Josip Broz Tito
Khorloogiin Choibalsan
Kim Il Sung
Klement Gottwald
Klement Voroshilov
Lavrentri Beria
Lazar Kaganovich
Mao Zedong
Maurice Thorez
Matyás Rákosi
Maxim Gorky
Maxim Litvinov
Mikhail Kalinin
Mikhail Suslov
Nikolai Bukharin
Nikolai Bulganin
Nikolai Shvernik
Nikolai Voznesensky
Nikolai Yezhov
Otto Kuusinen
Palmiro Togliatti
Sergei Kirov
Sergo Ordzhonikidze
Stanislav Kosior
Trofim Lysenko
Vyacheslav Menzhinsky
Vyacheslav Molotov
Walter Ulbricht
Wang Ming
Wilhelm Pieck
William Z. Foster

[Sentinel]

Oh fuck, I can't restrain myself. Can I purge Kaganovich please?

[Rugged Collectivist]

Beria. Fuck Beria.

P.S. This is fun.

[Jack]

Earl Browder

[Ostrinski]

Bukharin, right oppositionist scum.

[Comrade Dracula]

Beria has always been the suspicious one. Away with him!

[Roach]

Browder

[Goblin]

Beria

[Os Cangaceiros]

Beria

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Hoxha

[Questionable]

Hoxha.

[Aurora]

A forum game Ismail, really?

[Ismail]

A forum game Ismail, really?As much a forum game as the "3 word story" thread.

The actual forum games had players, faced player shortages, etc. which their GMs such as Dimentio tackled through, among other things, inviting anti-leftists into the forum (who had to disguise their anti-leftism if they wanted to play) who they had known through doing their same exact forum games on other forums. Having 15+ users join RevLeft just to play a forum game was not the sort of thing the average user would support, and obviously brought many problems to the forum and its security.

[soso17]

Browder

[Comrade Samuel]

Beria...OFF WITH HIS HEAD!

[Sentinel]

Yeah this really isn't the same at all, as the forum games there was a controversy about. This is just a joke, those were elaborate, planned strategy RPG things which people actually participated in over a period of time and took quite seriously.

[Rusty Shackleford]

Togliatti.

[Lev Bronsteinovich]

So hard to choose. Beria is a good pick. Browder too, but he was more of a puppet. In the USSR Beria actually saw to many a murder. Soooo, off with his head.

[Ismail]

Beria 6
Browder 3
Hoxha 2
Bukharin 1
Kaganovich 1
Togliatti 1

So yeah, Beria is buried. Stalin apparently held an increasingly dim view of the man towards the end of his life, and Molotov recalled Beria saying he "saved" everyone by killing Stalin.

In The Khrushchevites Hoxha recalls the execution of Beria (whom he had no admiration for):

There are many versions about the arrest and execution of Beria. Amongst others it was said that men from the army, headed by General Moskalenko, arrested Beria right in the meeting of the Presidium of the CC of the party. Apparently Khrushchev and his henchmen charged the army with this “special mission”, because they did not trust the state security, since Beria had had it in his hands for years on end. The plan had been hatched up in advance: while the meeting of the Presidium of the CC of the party was being held, Moskalenko and his men got into a nearby room unobserved. At the given moment, Malenkov pressed the bell and within a few seconds Moskalenko entered the office where the meeting was being held and approached Beria to arrest him. It was said that Beria reached out to take the satchel he had nearby, but Khrushchev, who was sitting “vigilant” by his side, was “quicker” and seized the satchel first. The “bird” could not fly away, the action was crowned with success! Precisely as in a detective film, but this was no ordinary film: the actors of this one were members of the Presidium of the CC of the CPSU!

This is what was said, took place and Khrushchev himself admitted it. Later, when a general, who I believe was called Sergatskov, came to Tirana as Soviet military adviser he also told us something about the trial of Beria. He told us that he had been called as a witness to declare in court that Beria had allegedly behaved arrogantly towards him. On this occasion Sergatskov told our comrades in confidence: “Beria defended himself very strongly in the court, accepted none of the accusations and refuted them all.” Round 3

Alexei Kosygin
Anastas Mikoyan
Andrei Andreyev
Andrei Gromyko
Andrei Vyshinsky
Andrei Zhdanov
Andrija Hebrang
Bolesław Bierut
Boris Ponomarev
Dmitri Manuilsky
Dolores Ibárruri
Earl Browder
Ernst Thälmann
Enver Hoxha
Gao Gang
Genrikh Yagoda
Georgi Dimitrov
Georgi Malenkov
Georgi Zhukov
Gheorghe Gheorghiu-Dej
Harry Haywood
Ho Chi Minh
Ivan Maisky
Jacques Duclos
Jānis Rudzutaks
Josip Broz Tito
Khorloogiin Choibalsan
Kim Il Sung
Klement Gottwald
Klement Voroshilov
Lazar Kaganovich
Mao Zedong
Maurice Thorez
Matyás Rákosi
Maxim Gorky
Maxim Litvinov
Mikhail Kalinin
Mikhail Suslov
Nikolai Bulganin
Nikolai Shvernik
Nikolai Voznesensky
Nikolai Yezhov
Otto Kuusinen
Palmiro Togliatti
Sergei Kirov
Sergo Ordzhonikidze
Stanislav Kosior
Trofim Lysenko
Vyacheslav Menzhinsky
Vyacheslav Molotov
Walter Ulbricht
Wang Ming
Wilhelm Pieck
William Z. Foster

[Geiseric]

I'm torn between Molotov and Yezhov. Molotov pretty much sold poland in a farcical attempt at peaceful coexistance. Yezhov ordered the murder of hunger strikers in the GULAG system.

Bukharin takes the cake though. Absolute scumbag.

[Flying Purple People Eater]

Wang Ming has to go.

[Ostrinski]

I'm gonna say down with the right oppositionist once again.

[Rusty Shackleford]

Klement Voroshilov, the damn tankie.

[Geiseric]

No but seriously how weird is it that stalin walks around with a military hat on all the time? Like in every picture I see of him he has a military officer cap on.

My vote is still for Bukharin.

[Comrade Dracula]

Agreed. Bukharin should grease up a guillotine this round.

[Roach]

Bukharin

[Paul Pott]

I'm torn between Molotov and Yezhov. Molotov pretty much sold poland in a farcical attempt at peaceful coexistance. Yezhov ordered the murder of hunger strikers in the GULAG system.

Bukharin takes the cake though. Absolute scumbag.

Of course it was a farce, that was the point. That's where the west's appeasement stopped.

Bukharin

[Yet_Another_Boring_Marxist]

Bukharin it is for me. We must protect glorious comrade Hoxha!

[Questionable]

Add another one to the Bukharin pile.

[Ismail]

Bukharin 7
Wang 1
Voroshilov 1

Bukharin gets the boot.

"But hidden from public view, ugly changes were unfolding within the Central Committee. At another plenary session, called in December 1936, Ezhov once again held center stage, launching a new series of dramatic charges that involved more former opposition leaders. At the August trial Zinoviev and Kamenev had mentioned a 'reserve center' of terrorists that existed in addition to the 'basic center' of the Zinovievite-Trotskyite bloc. In the reserve group were Piatakov; Radek... Piatakov 'admitted' that in spring of 1931 he had met in Germany with Trotsky's son Sedov, who passed him a directive on terror in the Soviet Union. According to Ezhov, Piatakov told the police after his arrest that 'I, unfortunately, gave my agreement.' Here the stenographic record notes 'noise, movement in the hall.' Beria once more interrupted: 'Bastard!' Ezhov responded, 'Worse than a bastard.' ...

He then read a number of excerpts from prisoners' statements, in which they admitted causing accidents in military factories and on railroads... At this point a connection to Bukharin begun to surface... At that, Bukharin, present as a candidate member of the Central Committee, asked to speak; he was ignored. Ezhov continued that other sources had confirmed the testimony about knowledge by the Right of terrorist plans....

... The former rightist and 'favorite of the party,' as Lenin had called him, began on a personal note: 'Comrades, it is more than difficult for me to speak, for perhaps I am speaking for the last time before you.' He urged greater vigilance throughout the party and help for the 'corresponding organs,' that is, the police, in wiping out 'the bastard who is busy with wrecking acts.' He remarked that he was happy all this had surfaced before the coming war. 'Now we can win.'

Beria then broke in to sneer, 'You would do better to say what your participation was in this affair. You say what you were doing there.'

Bukharin replied that 'everything is a lie.' After meeting with Sokol'nikov at the time of the August trial, Stalin's aide Kaganovich had told Bukharin that the leadership believed he had nothing to do with the terrorist affairs. Then the procuracy had informed him that the investigation of his activities was closed. Kaganovich interrupted to say that decision had been juridical but that now the matter was political...

Bukharin, now adopting a somewhat pathetic tone, responded by saying, 'For God's sake, don't interrupt me.' He denied having political conversations with Sokol'nikov or the journalist Sosnovskii. He claimed he had never read the Riutin Memorandum. True, in 1928-29 he had 'conducted an oppositionist struggle against the party.' Yet neither at that time nor afterward had he 'one atom of a conception of platforms or [specific political] aims.' He asked plaintively, 'Do you really think that I'm that kind of person? Do you really think that I can have something in common with these diversionists, with these wreckers, with these scoundrels after 30 years of my life in the party and after everything? This is really some kind of madness.'

Molotov: Kamenev and Zinoviev were also in the party for their whole lives.
Bukharin: . . . Many people here know me.
Molotov: It's hard to know a soul . . .
Bukharin: Why didn't they [the wreckers] harm the party from the other end, to ruin a lot of honest people and get their hooks into them? Why, tell me? (Noise, movement in the hall). . . . How to defend oneself in such cases [against the testimony of others]? How to find a defense here?

His specific counterthrusts were weak.... Bukharin confessed that he had talked frankly with Karl Radek, who, he agreed, was a traitor. Striking another pathetic note, he admitted having spoken to Radek only because he, Bukharin, was completely alone, and in those circumstances a person 'will be drawn to any warm place.' When Stalin asked Bukharin why people would lie about him, he replied that he did not know. Bukharin acknowledged that there had been a Right Center, which would have been unnecessary if it was Stalin's fictitious creation. But, Bukharin went on, he had not seen one of its key members for years and did not know another, one Iakovlev... All that Bukharin really counted on was his long service to the party and his personal honor; he asked people to take his word about his honesty over the testimony of numerous others. And he himself said that he had struggled in the late 1920s against pressure on the peasants. But by 1936 it appeared, correctly or not, that the policy, culminating in collectivization, had enabled industrialization to take off.

.... Finally Molotov mounted the rostrum to sum up the position of the leadership. Of all that he had heard from Bukharin and Rykov, he said, only one thing was correct: it was necessary to investigate the matter in the most attentive way... Bukharin was politically dead; in little more than a year, he was tried and executed.

One more document from his case requires discussion: a letter he wrote to Stalin while in prison, dated December 10, 1937. In it he begged the Gensec to allow him either to work at some cultural task in Siberia or to emigrate to America, where he would be a faithful Soviet citizen and would 'beat Trotsky and company in the snout.' ...

More important for understanding his fate and the course of the Terror was his admissions that some sort of 'conference' of his young followers had occurred in 1932. Apparently one of them had said in Bukharin's presence that he wished to kill Stalin. Bukharin now acknowledged that he had been 'two-faced' about his followers and had not informed the authorities of their discussions. He had believed at this time, he claimed, that he could lead them back to the party. As for the accusations that he was linked to foreign espionage services and had fostered terrorism, all that was false. But by this time Bukharin had lied repeatedly to Stalin and the whole Central Committee. Even though his behavior did not warrant the death penalty, Stalin had serious reason to distrust him."
(Robert W. Thurston. Life and Terror in Stalin's Russia. New Haven: Yale University Press. 1996. pp. 36-42.)

Round 4

Alexei Kosygin
Anastas Mikoyan
Andrei Andreyev
Andrei Gromyko
Andrei Vyshinsky
Andrei Zhdanov
Andrija Hebrang
Bolesław Bierut
Boris Ponomarev
Dmitri Manuilsky
Dolores Ibárruri
Earl Browder
Ernst Thälmann
Enver Hoxha
Gao Gang
Genrikh Yagoda
Georgi Dimitrov
Georgi Malenkov
Georgi Zhukov
Gheorghe Gheorghiu-Dej
Harry Haywood
Ho Chi Minh
Ivan Maisky
Jacques Duclos
Jānis Rudzutaks
Josip Broz Tito
Khorloogiin Choibalsan
Kim Il Sung
Klement Gottwald
Klement Voroshilov
Lazar Kaganovich
Mao Zedong
Maurice Thorez
Matyás Rákosi
Maxim Gorky
Maxim Litvinov
Mikhail Kalinin
Mikhail Suslov
Nikolai Bulganin
Nikolai Shvernik
Nikolai Voznesensky
Nikolai Yezhov
Otto Kuusinen
Palmiro Togliatti
Sergei Kirov
Sergo Ordzhonikidze
Stanislav Kosior
Trofim Lysenko
Vyacheslav Menzhinsky
Vyacheslav Molotov
Walter Ulbricht
Wang Ming
Wilhelm Pieck
William Z. Foster

[Ostrinski]

Hoxha! We must terminate Hoxha lest his legacy live on in the manifestation of an almost unhealthy obsession of a member of a leftist forum.

[Questionable]

Time to take out Yezhov because we have way too many fucking Nikolai's in this list.

[Geiseric]

I'm thinking... Kim Il Sung.

[Sentinel]

Hoxha! We must terminate Hoxha lest his legacy live on in the manifestation of an almost unhealthy obsession of a member of a leftist forum.

Haven't you guys realised it yet, the secret agenda of this game is that Hoxha can't actually die no matter how many of you vote for him. He's immortal. ;)

Anyway, Kaganovich again.

[Sea]

I cast my ballet for Kim Il-Sung. Hopefully I got it in on time otherwise it'd have to be a rushing ballet.
Haven't you guys realised it yet, the secret agenda of this game is that Hoxha can't actually die no matter how many of you vote for him. He's immortal. ;) Dude, Hoxha doesn't need votes. We've been over this already.

[Comrade Dracula]

Kim Il-Sung. Reduce him to ashes and scatter him to the winds!

[Roach]

Yezhov

[Yet_Another_Boring_Marxist]

I vote Kim Il Sung

[Workers-Control-Over-Prod]

Kim Il Sung shall lose his Presidency and place as the Eternal Leader of the Democratic People's Republic of Korearrrrr!

[Sam_b]

I am duty bound to say fuck Klement Gottwald.

[PC LOAD LETTER]

Hoxha!!!!!!!

[Ismail]

Kim 5
Yezhov 2
Hoxha 2
Kaganovich 1
Gottwald 1

Hoxha recalled a 1956 visit to the DPRK:

On September 7 we arrived in Pyongyang. They put on a splendid welcome, with people, with gongs, with flowers, and with portraits of Kim Il Sung everywhere. You had to look hard to find some portrait of Lenin, tucked away in some obscure corner.

We visited Pyongyang and a series of cities and villages of Korea, where both the people and the party and state leaders welcomed us warmly. During the days we stayed there, Kim Il Sung was kind and intimate with us. The Korean people had just emerged from the bloody war with the American aggressors and now had thrown themselves into the offensive for the reconstruction and development of the country. They were an industrious, clean and talented people, eager for further development and progress, and we whole-heartedly wished them continued successes on the road to socialism. However, the revisionist wasp had begun to implant its poisonous sting there, too. In the joint talks we held, Kim Il Sung told us about an event which had occurred in the plenum of the Central Committee of the party held after the 20th Congress.

“After the report which I delivered,” Kim told us, “two members of the Political Bureau and several other members of the Central Committee got up and raised the question that the lessons of the 20th Congress and the question of the cult of the individual had not been properly appreciated amongst us, here in Korea, that a consistent struggle against the cult of the individual had not been waged, and so on. They said to the plenum: ‘We are not getting economic and political results according to the platform of the 20th Congress, and incompetent people have been gathered around the Central Committee.’

“In other words, they attacked the line and unity of the leadership,” continued Kim Il Sung. “The whole Central Committee rose against them,” he said in conclusion.

“What stand was taken towards them?” I asked.

“The plenum criticized them and that was all,” replied Kim Il Sung, adding:

“Immediately after this the two fled to China.”

“To China?! What did they do there?”

“Our Central Committee described them as anti-party elements and we wrote to the Chinese leadership to send them back to us without fail. Apart from other mistakes, they also committed the grave act of fleeing. The Chinese comrades did not send them back. They have them there to this day.”

We said openly to Kim Il Sung: “Although we have no detailed knowledge of the matters which these two members of the Political Bureau raised, and it is not up to us to pass judgement on your business, since you have told us about this problem, we think that this is a serious event.”

“In our country, too,” we told him, “after the 20th Congress of the CPSU, there was an attempt by anti-party elements to organize a plot against our Party and our Central Committee. The plot was a deed organized by the revisionists of Belgrade, and as soon as we became aware of it, we crushed it immediately.” We went on to speak about the Party Conference of Tirana in April 1956 about the pressure which was exerted on us, and the unwavering, resolute stand of our Party towards external and internal enemies.

“You are right, you are right!” said Kim Il Sung, while I was speaking. From the way he spoke and reacted I sensed a certain hesitation and uncertainty that were overwhelming him.

I was not mistaken in my doubts. A few days later in China, during a meeting I had with [Boris] Ponomarev, a member of the Soviet delegation to the 8th Congress of the CP of China, I opened up the problem of the Korean fugitives. “We know about this,” he replied, “and have given Kim Il Sung our advice.”

“You have advised him? Why?” I asked.

“Comrade Enver,” he said, “things are not going well with the Koreans. They have become very stuck up and ought to be brought down a peg or two.”

“I am not talking about their affairs in general, because I know nothing about them,” I told Ponomarev, “but about a concrete problem. Two members of the Political Bureau rise against the Central Committee of their own party and then flee to another socialist country. Where is Kim Il Sung at fault in this?!”

“The Korean comrades have made mistakes,” insisted Ponomarev. “They have not taken measures in line with the decisions of the 20th Congress, and that is why two members of the Political Bureau rose against this. The Chinese comrades have been revolted by this situation, too, and have told Kim Il Sung that if measures are not taken, they are not going to hand over the two comrades taking refuge in China.”

“Astonishing!” I said.

“You have no reason to be astonished,” he said. “Kim Il Sung himself is retreating. A plenum of the Central Committee of the Korean party has been held these days and the Koreans have agreed to correct the mistakes.”

And this turned out to be true. The two fugitives returned to Korea and the places they had had in the Political Bureau. Under pressure, Kim Il Sung bowed his head and gave way. This was a joint act of the Soviets and the Chinese, in which a special “merit” belonged to Mikoyan. He had been sent to China at the head of the Soviet delegation to the 8th Congress of the CPC, and without waiting for the Chinese congress to finish, the man of the Khrushchevite mafia together with Peng Dehuzi, whom Mao Zedong gave him as the representative of China, hastened to Korea to tune up the wavering Kim Il Sung to bring him into harmony with the Khrushchevites.Round 4

Alexei Kosygin
Anastas Mikoyan
Andrei Andreyev
Andrei Gromyko
Andrei Vyshinsky
Andrei Zhdanov
Andrija Hebrang
Bolesław Bierut
Boris Ponomarev
Dmitri Manuilsky
Dolores Ibárruri
Earl Browder
Ernst Thälmann
Enver Hoxha
Gao Gang
Genrikh Yagoda
Georgi Dimitrov
Georgi Malenkov
Georgi Zhukov
Gheorghe Gheorghiu-Dej
Harry Haywood
Ho Chi Minh
Ivan Maisky
Jacques Duclos
Jānis Rudzutaks
Josip Broz Tito
Khorloogiin Choibalsan
Klement Gottwald
Klement Voroshilov
Lazar Kaganovich
Mao Zedong
Maurice Thorez
Matyás Rákosi
Maxim Gorky
Maxim Litvinov
Mikhail Kalinin
Mikhail Suslov
Nikolai Bulganin
Nikolai Shvernik
Nikolai Voznesensky
Nikolai Yezhov
Otto Kuusinen
Palmiro Togliatti
Sergei Kirov
Sergo Ordzhonikidze
Stanislav Kosior
Trofim Lysenko
Vyacheslav Menzhinsky
Vyacheslav Molotov
Walter Ulbricht
Wang Ming
Wilhelm Pieck
William Z. Foster

[PC LOAD LETTER]

Hoxha again!!!!

He must be purged

[Goblin]

Hoxha

[Os Cangaceiros]

Hoxha

[Ostrinski]

Get the 'xha to the scaffold. Off with the head of the revisiophobe!

[Questionable]

I'm going to obey democratic centralism and vote for Hoxha.

[Ismail]

*Secretly begins making 50 alternative accounts to save e-Hoxha from doom*

[Rusty Shackleford]

*Secretly begins making 50 alternative accounts to save e-Hoxha from doom*

"Openly making 51 alternative accounts to doom e-Hoxha"

And i vote for Uncle Ho...xha.


For the luls! And Luddism!

[Anti-Traditional]

Yeah... get rid of Hoxha

[Comrade Dracula]

Hoxha. Make it quick.

[Art Vandelay]

The 'Xha is doomed unless he manages to make it to one of his bunkers! I miss bananas and beards. Hoxha is my choice.

[Brutus]

I'm gonna go for Mao.
Hoxha's too mainstream

[Geiseric]

These are all pretty interesting stories... I must admit. Hoxha's next!
As the agent pulled the trigger, Hoxha dodged every submachine gun bullet in a matrix esqe feat of agility, and used his lazer eyes to disentigrate out assassin's weapon...

[Paul Pott]

My vote is worth 40. Yezhov.

[Ismail]

Hoxha 10
Mao 1
Yezhov 1

That was quite inglorious. Regardless, Hoxha does not die but ascends to heaven at the call of Stalin. Also since I try to have quotes, Stalin apparently remarked to Hoxha at one point, "Your people are very small in number. If you cannot manage to win their sympathy, you had better resign."

Round 5

Alexei Kosygin
Anastas Mikoyan
Andrei Andreyev
Andrei Gromyko
Andrei Vyshinsky
Andrei Zhdanov
Andrija Hebrang
Bolesław Bierut
Boris Ponomarev
Dmitri Manuilsky
Dolores Ibárruri
Earl Browder
Ernst Thälmann
Gao Gang
Genrikh Yagoda
Georgi Dimitrov
Georgi Malenkov
Georgi Zhukov
Gheorghe Gheorghiu-Dej
Harry Haywood
Ho Chi Minh
Ivan Maisky
Jacques Duclos
Jānis Rudzutaks
Josip Broz Tito
Khorloogiin Choibalsan
Klement Gottwald
Klement Voroshilov
Lazar Kaganovich
Mao Zedong
Maurice Thorez
Matyás Rákosi
Maxim Gorky
Maxim Litvinov
Mikhail Kalinin
Mikhail Suslov
Nikolai Bulganin
Nikolai Shvernik
Nikolai Voznesensky
Nikolai Yezhov
Otto Kuusinen
Palmiro Togliatti
Sergei Kirov
Sergo Ordzhonikidze
Stanislav Kosior
Trofim Lysenko
Vyacheslav Menzhinsky
Vyacheslav Molotov
Walter Ulbricht
Wang Ming
Wilhelm Pieck
William Z. Foster

[Flying Purple People Eater]

Wang Ming must die.

[PC LOAD LETTER]

Well I'm happy now.

Mao can go to hell, though.

[Geiseric]

Yep chairman meow is next.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

As much a forum game as the "3 word story" thread.

The actual forum games had players, faced player shortages, etc. which their GMs such as Dimentio tackled through, among other things, inviting anti-leftists into the forum (who had to disguise their anti-leftism if they wanted to play) who they had known through doing their same exact forum games on other forums.

Let me state for the record that when my Nova Mundi game was running on this board, all the players as I recall had been Revleft members for a while, and had not joined up just to play the game. I also had people demanding to know when I would post the next turn, so it wasn't exactly unpopular.

Also, I had never run a game as a GM before, and had not actually played much before, on Revleft or elsewhere.


Having 15+ users join RevLeft just to play a forum game was not the sort of thing the average user would support, and obviously brought many problems to the forum and its security.

Utterly paranoid nonsense. It is ludicrously easy to get banned from this site - if anyone who had joined to play games really started any shit, then they could have been shut down very quickly by the simple expedient of banning their account.

[Ismail]

Utterly paranoid nonsense. It is ludicrously easy to get banned from this site - if anyone who had joined to play games really started any shit, then they could have been shut down very quickly by the simple expedient of banning their account.The issue isn't that they "started any shit" on the actual forum games (they did not.) The issue is that fascists like Roman_von_Ungern (even had a reactionary username), ConcernedStudent and others (who joined just to play games, as can be confirmed by looking at their posts) could fish out personal info from RevLefters, and in fact some tried to do this when the forum games were removed, and they were on RevLeft for months/years with no problems whatsoever up to that point. The forum itself suffered a DDoS attack in retaliation.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

The issue isn't that they "started any shit" on the actual forum games (they did not.) The issue is that fascists like Roman_von_Ungern (even had a reactionary username), ConcernedStudent and others (who joined just to play games, as can be confirmed by looking at their posts) could fish out personal info from RevLefters, and in fact some tried to do this when the forum games were removed, and they were on RevLeft for months/years with no problems whatsoever up to that point. The forum itself suffered a DDoS attack in retaliation.

When I mentioned people starting shit, I was referring to starting shit on the board generally, not just in the game threads. My point about banning user accounts should have made that obvious.

Nothing about the management of or participation in forum games requires personal information, which if I recall correctly, members of this site are generally discouraged from sharing in the first place. If reactionary members were able to lay low on this site for months to years beforehand, then their presence cannot plausibly be blamed on forum games of any kind (indeed, if someone really wanted to "infiltrate" this forum then there is absolutely no need for them to have anything to do with any forum games to do so). If there are people determined to attack this site via DDoS, then banning forum games does precisely jack-fucking-shit to prevent that.

[Ismail]

They were determined to DDoS the forum because forum games were banned. This was a case of fascists who only joined the forum to partake in forum games. There would have not been a DDos attack (or the whole December 2011 drama in the first place) had there been no forum games.

[Comrade Dracula]

Wang Ming. Dunno who he is, but sounds interesting.

[Goblin]

Mao

[kashkin]

Zhdanov. IIRC Stalin quite disliked him.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

They were determined to DDoS the forum because forum games were banned. This was a case of fascists who only joined the forum to partake in forum games.

You seriously think that fascists really need such an excuse in order to attack this site? They're fascists. It would be more of a shock if they didn't attack the site, forum games or no.


There would have not been a DDos attack (or the whole December 2011 drama in the first place) had there been no forum games.

The drama was in response to a major overreaction. You still haven't established that were the games to continue, anything untoward would have happened that wouldn't have happened anyway.

Unless of course you're arguing that the fascists were here to play games and only DDoSed the site in a fit of petulance, but that cuts the ground out from underneath your argument that they constituted a security threat. If the threat was just from the fact of them being fascists, then why was it not sufficient to simply ban their accounts?

[Ismail]

You seriously think that fascists really need such an excuse in order to attack this site? They're fascists. It would be more of a shock if they didn't attack the site, forum games or no.And yet they would never have paid any attention to RevLeft if it hadn't been for the forum games.


The drama was in response to a major overreaction.The DDoS attack only resulted in spending real-life money to ensure it didn't happen again, after all.


You still haven't established that were the games to continue, anything untoward would have happened that wouldn't have happened anyway.So basically it's all the fault of the RevLeft administration for fascists responding to the closure of forum games with DDoS attacks, for trolls to take advantage of a "Revolutionary Forum Games Movement," etc.


Unless of course you're arguing that the fascists were here to play games and only DDoSed the site in a fit of petulance, but that cuts the ground out from underneath your argument that they constituted a security threat.You do realize fascists are banned on RevLeft because, among other things, they're known to collect personal info on leftists and maintain websites publicizing information on leftists involved in activism, right? And these weren't even being forthright about their views, they were posing as "leftists" so they wouldn't face any trouble from the admins.


If the threat was just from the fact of them being fascists, then why was it not sufficient to simply ban their accounts?Because, as you should know, December 2011 became about more than banning fascists. Some argued it was a "pretext" or "cover" for the BA to ban some other users who were banned at the same time for unrelated reasons. Then there were the various rabid forum gamers who stuck up for the fascists and started going on other forums (dedicated to forum games) vowing "revenge" on RevLeft, etc.

But even if everything was orderly and it was simply a question of banning fascists, what happens after that? After all, those fascists joined so they could play in forum games. What about those who invited them in? What about the very dynamics which led to anti-communists being invited to RevLeft solely to play forum games in the first place?

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

And yet they would never have paid any attention to RevLeft if it hadn't been for the forum games.

Don't blame the games - I didn't invite fascists when I started mine. Blame the fash fuckers for DDoSing the site.


The DDoS attack only resulted in spending real-life money to ensure it didn't happen again, after all.

Because this site never gets DDoSed for any reason other than games, right?


So basically it's all the fault of the RevLeft administration for fascists responding to the closure of forum games with DDoS attacks, for trolls to take advantage of a "Revolutionary Forum Games Movement," etc.

Please explain how banning forum games prevents any future DDoS attacks. You know that such things do occur completely "uninvited", right?


You do realize fascists are banned on RevLeft because, among other things, they're known to collect personal info on leftists and maintain websites publicizing information on leftists involved in activism, right? And these weren't even being forthright about their views, they were posing as "leftists" so they wouldn't face any trouble from the admins.

And in the absence of games, what exactly prevents them from doing this anyway?


Because, as you should know, December 2011 became about more than banning fascists. Some argued it was a "pretext" or "cover" for the BA to ban some other users who were banned at the same time for unrelated reasons. Then there were the various rabid forum gamers who stuck up for the fascists and started going on other forums (dedicated to forum games) vowing "revenge" on RevLeft, etc.

Conspiracy theories concerning the BA, regardless of their actual validity, have been around this site well before any games got started and you know it. Members have stuck up for others accused of being fascists on this website before, so once again that has nothing to do with the presence or absence of games on this forum.


But even if everything was orderly and it was simply a question of banning fascists, what happens after that? After all, those fascists joined so they could play in forum games. What about those who invited them in? What about the very dynamics which led to anti-communists being invited to RevLeft solely to play forum games in the first place?

Simple rule; don't invite fascists to the forum, for any purpose. Anyone who breaks that rule gets banned. Why is that so hard?

[Art Vandelay]

Off with Mao's head!

[PC LOAD LETTER]

...
The DDoS attack only resulted in spending real-life money to ensure it didn't happen again, after all....

Just wanted to interject a point - the forum owner is using a cloud server (rackspace.com (http://rackspace.com)) which scales up the bill with resource usage.



This is okay for a web site or business with a steady income stream that can match the increased resource usage because, again, it will scale and your bill goes up.


The intelligent thing to do would be to get a dedicated server with a company that knows how to respond to and stop DDoS attacks.


They may have switched over after the DDoS attack, I just know I did a quick check after that shit happened and saw they were on slicehost/rackspace's cloud platform.

[GiantMonkeyMan]

Purge now Mao... I mean, purge Mao now.

[Sea]

Wow. I seriously had to google "forum games" too see if the phrase had some actually important double-meaning.

Anywho I vote Hoxha. Because I'm a rebel.

(sorry Ismael, it's not you, it's me.)

[PC LOAD LETTER]

Wow. I seriously had to google "forum games" too see if the phrase had some actually important double-meaning.

Anywho I vote Hoxha. Because I'm a rebel.

(sorry Ismael, it's not you, it's me.)
Hoxha's already dead we killed him. Mao is next. Vote for Mao.


Well, apparently, according to Ismail, Hoxha didn't die. He assimilated into the intergalactic web of the force and became Obi-Wan Kenobi or something.

[Ismail]

Mao 5
Wang 2
Zhdanov 1

"To American diplomats, Soviet leaders distanced themselves clearly from the Chinese Communists. In June 1944, Stalin told Herriman disparagingly that these were 'not real Communists, but 'margarine' Communists,' though they were 'real patriots and want to fight the Japs.' Stalin used the term 'margarine Communists' to Hurley, too. Some impoverished Chinese described themselves as Communists, Viacheslav Molotv explained, 'but were related to Communism in no way at all.' They were merely expressing dissatisfaction with their economic conditions in this way, he said, and would forget this political inclination when their economic conditions improved...

Stalin is supposed to have derided the Chinese comrades as 'radish Communists' (red outside and white inside) at a Politburo session, and he apparently did use the nickname 'Pugachev'—the leader of an eighteenth-century popular uprising in Russia, who had ultimately been executed—to refer to Mao in the circle of his closest colleagues." Dieter Heinzig, The Soviet Union and Communist China, pp. 22-23.

Round 6

Alexei Kosygin
Anastas Mikoyan
Andrei Andreyev
Andrei Gromyko
Andrei Vyshinsky
Andrei Zhdanov
Andrija Hebrang
Bolesław Bierut
Boris Ponomarev
Dmitri Manuilsky
Dolores Ibárruri
Earl Browder
Ernst Thälmann
Gao Gang
Genrikh Yagoda
Georgi Dimitrov
Georgi Malenkov
Georgi Zhukov
Gheorghe Gheorghiu-Dej
Harry Haywood
Ho Chi Minh
Ivan Maisky
Jacques Duclos
Jānis Rudzutaks
Josip Broz Tito
Khorloogiin Choibalsan
Klement Gottwald
Klement Voroshilov
Lazar Kaganovich
Maurice Thorez
Matyás Rákosi
Maxim Gorky
Maxim Litvinov
Mikhail Kalinin
Mikhail Suslov
Nikolai Bulganin
Nikolai Shvernik
Nikolai Voznesensky
Nikolai Yezhov
Otto Kuusinen
Palmiro Togliatti
Sergei Kirov
Sergo Ordzhonikidze
Stanislav Kosior
Trofim Lysenko
Vyacheslav Menzhinsky
Vyacheslav Molotov
Walter Ulbricht
Wang Ming
Wilhelm Pieck
William Z. Foster

[Art Vandelay]

Wang Ming must die.

[Brutus]

Zhandov, he had a copy of Mein kampf.

[Rusty Shackleford]

Kosygin

[soso17]

Kosygin. He and his economic reforms need to go!

[Comrade Dracula]

Kosygin.

[Roach]

Kosygin

[Yet_Another_Boring_Marxist]

Kosygin.

[Ismail]

Kosygin 5
Wang 1
Zhdanov 1

Kosygin gets the boot. He apparently had been under suspicion in the late 40's/early 50's as part of the "Leningrad affair" but wasn't demoted/arrested/shot.

Round 7

Anastas Mikoyan
Andrei Andreyev
Andrei Gromyko
Andrei Vyshinsky
Andrei Zhdanov
Andrija Hebrang
Bolesław Bierut
Boris Ponomarev
Dmitri Manuilsky
Dolores Ibárruri
Earl Browder
Ernst Thälmann
Gao Gang
Genrikh Yagoda
Georgi Dimitrov
Georgi Malenkov
Georgi Zhukov
Gheorghe Gheorghiu-Dej
Harry Haywood
Ho Chi Minh
Ivan Maisky
Jacques Duclos
Jānis Rudzutaks
Josip Broz Tito
Khorloogiin Choibalsan
Klement Gottwald
Klement Voroshilov
Lazar Kaganovich
Maurice Thorez
Matyás Rákosi
Maxim Gorky
Maxim Litvinov
Mikhail Kalinin
Mikhail Suslov
Nikolai Bukharin
Nikolai Bulganin
Nikolai Shvernik
Nikolai Voznesensky
Nikolai Yezhov
Otto Kuusinen
Palmiro Togliatti
Sergei Kirov
Sergo Ordzhonikidze
Stanislav Kosior
Trofim Lysenko
Vyacheslav Menzhinsky
Vyacheslav Molotov
Walter Ulbricht
Wang Ming
Wilhelm Pieck
William Z. Foster

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Zhandov, he had a copy of Mein kampf.

Knowing your enemy...

[Brutus]

Kalinin, he's Trotsky in disguise

[Art Vandelay]

Wang Min!

[Flying Purple People Eater]

Wang ming must be crushed.

[l'Enfermé]

Death to Yagoda.

[Comrade Dracula]

Wang Ming. Still wanna hear details on this guy.

[Il Medico]

Throw a molotov at Molotov!

[Roach]

Tito

[soso17]

Tito!

[soso17]

Tito must go!

[Sea]

I'm gonna jump on the Tito bandwagon. Trade cars with the West, trade bullets with his chest.
Hoxha's already dead we killed him. Mao is next. Vote for Mao.


Well, apparently, according to Ismail, Hoxha didn't die. He assimilated into the intergalactic web of the force and became Obi-Wan Kenobi or something.
crap, didn't see that

[Ismail]

Tito 3
Wang 3
Yagoda 1
Kalinin 1
Molotov 1

I don't think I need to describe Stalin's interactions with Tito. As for Wang Ming, he was considered by Mao to be a "dogmatist," since he was trained in Moscow and opposed Mao's peasant-based line.

"Mao was especially wary of China's representative at the Comintern, Wang Ming, who, by virtue of that post, spent most of his time in Moscow until the Comintern was wound up in 1943. Wang really did aspire to the top post in China and so was viewed by Mao as a deadly rival. What is more, he also had a cautious supporter in Moscow in the head of the Comintern administration, Georgi Dimitrov, who had adopted as his child Wang's young daughter. Stalin, though, was the ultimate arbiter of the leadership of non-ruling Communist parties and he took a less rosy view of Wang Ming than did Dimitrov. Wang at one stage seriously blotted his copybook with Stalin. When one of the Chinese warlords with links to the Communists captured Chiang Kai-shek in 1936, Stalin was furious that Wang Ming's response had been to propose a telegram suggesting that Chiang be killed - or so, at least, Stalin was informed. Stalin saw Chiang as integral to his plans for a united front against the Japanese.

At midnight on 14 December 1936, Dimitrov received a telephone call from Stalin in which the Soviet leader asked: 'Who is this Wang Ming of yours? A provocateur? He wanted to file a telegram to have Chiang Kai-shek killed.' For a Comintern official to be called a 'provocateur' by Stalin was normally a prelude to a death sentence, but Wang Ming, with Dimitrov's support, survived. Wang was frequently dismissive of Mao Zedong's qualities as a leader, but Stalin, for all his reservations about Mao, combined grudging respect for him with continuing suspicion of Wang Ming." - Archie Brown, The Rise and Fall of Communism, pp. 184-185.

"The Chinese representative to the Comintern then was Wang Ming. He is still alive and well today. My attitude toward Comrade Wang was always one of respect. I think he understood the revolutionary process in China correctly and was among those who worked out the correct directives. When Mao directed sharp criticism at Stalin, he had in mind Wang Ming as well; Mao held that Wang had not correctly understood the situation in China and had not acted correctly when he had headed the Chinese Communist Party... Wang did not return to China; he took up residence in Moscow. Later the situation changed. We have information that several attempts were made to kill Wang Ming. Poisoned food products were sent to him from China. He always tested the food on his cats before eating it. Who could have had an interest in doing that? Only Mao." - Memoirs of Nikita Khrushchev: Statesman, 1953-1964, p. 484.

Round 8

Anastas Mikoyan
Andrei Andreyev
Andrei Gromyko
Andrei Vyshinsky
Andrei Zhdanov
Andrija Hebrang
Bolesław Bierut
Boris Ponomarev
Dmitri Manuilsky
Dolores Ibárruri
Earl Browder
Ernst Thälmann
Gao Gang
Genrikh Yagoda
Georgi Dimitrov
Georgi Malenkov
Georgi Zhukov
Gheorghe Gheorghiu-Dej
Harry Haywood
Ho Chi Minh
Ivan Maisky
Jacques Duclos
Jānis Rudzutaks
Khorloogiin Choibalsan
Klement Gottwald
Klement Voroshilov
Lazar Kaganovich
Maurice Thorez
Matyás Rákosi
Maxim Gorky
Maxim Litvinov
Mikhail Kalinin
Mikhail Suslov
Nikolai Bulganin
Nikolai Shvernik
Nikolai Voznesensky
Nikolai Yezhov
Otto Kuusinen
Palmiro Togliatti
Sergei Kirov
Sergo Ordzhonikidze
Stanislav Kosior
Trofim Lysenko
Vyacheslav Menzhinsky
Vyacheslav Molotov
Walter Ulbricht
Wilhelm Pieck
William Z. Foster

[Brutus]

Yagoda

[Brutus]

You can't do a Hoxha quote for the next purge victim, for Hoxha himself has fallen to the purge

[Il Medico]

Death to Molotov!

[Mass Grave Aesthetics]

Earl Browder to the lions.

[Sea]

Out with Gorky.

[Comrade Dracula]

Let's give Molotov the cocktail, shall we?

[Ostrinski]

Gorky must stay!

Definitely get rid of Molotov.

[Art Vandelay]

Molotov!

[Ismail]

Molotov 4
Yagoda 1
Browder 1
Gorky 1

During the 1945-46 period a lot of persons in the Western press thought Molotov would be a natural successor to Stalin. As a result of this and some foreign and domestic policy measures (wherein Stalin accused Molotov of liberalism), "In a very sharp ciphered message that afternoon, addressed to Malenkov, Beria, and Mikoian, Stalin made it plain that he regarded the quartet's response as 'entirely unsatisfactory' and that he considered it an attempt to 'brush the affair aside. ' 'None of us has the right to change the course of our policies unilaterally, ' Stalin argued. 'But Molotov has accorded himself this right. Why, and on what grounds?… Until your message I thought that we could confine ourselves to a reprimand of Molotov. But that is no longer enough. I am convinced that Molotov does not much value the interests of our state and the prestige of our government, so long as he gains popularity among certain foreign circles. I can no longer regard this comrade as my first deputy. 'In order to make the assault on Molotov all the more humiliating, Stalin rounded off his message with the words, 'I send this only to the three of you. I have not sent it to Molotov, as I do not trust the conscientiousness of some of those around him. I ask you to summon Molotov and to read him this telegram in full, but not to present him with a copy of it.'" - Cold Peace: Stalin and the Soviet Ruling Circle, 1945-1953, p. 22.

"In 1940 the Central Committee voted to remove Molotov's wife Polina Semenova Zhemchuzhina from candidate membership. Molotov did not vote against but abstained. Stalin's doubts regarding Molotov's loyalty mounted. Stalin demanded that Molotov separate from his wife. He did. Stalin insisted that Molotov divorce her. Because the good of the cause demanded it, the Molotovs divorced in 1948. Nevertheless, in February 1949 she was arrested and exiled. One month later Stalin replaced Molotov with Andrei Vyshinsky in the office of foreign minister. By 1952 Stalin was muttering that Molotov was an American spy. Molotov was not included in the organized Politburo of 1952; in all likelihood his life was saved only by Stalin's death in March 1953. Molotov's wife was returned to him the day after Stalin's funeral." - Molotov Remembers, pp. 159-160.

His wife had been accused of being a Zionist spy and foreign agent operating through Golda Meir, then Israeli ambassador to the USSR. Nonetheless, Molotov continued to defend Stalin till the day he died, as did his wife.

Round 9

Anastas Mikoyan
Andrei Andreyev
Andrei Gromyko
Andrei Vyshinsky
Andrei Zhdanov
Andrija Hebrang
Bolesław Bierut
Boris Ponomarev
Dmitri Manuilsky
Dolores Ibárruri
Earl Browder
Ernst Thälmann
Gao Gang
Genrikh Yagoda
Georgi Dimitrov
Georgi Malenkov
Georgi Zhukov
Gheorghe Gheorghiu-Dej
Harry Haywood
Ho Chi Minh
Ivan Maisky
Jacques Duclos
Jānis Rudzutaks
Khorloogiin Choibalsan
Klement Gottwald
Klement Voroshilov
Lazar Kaganovich
Maurice Thorez
Matyás Rákosi
Maxim Gorky
Maxim Litvinov
Mikhail Kalinin
Mikhail Suslov
Nikolai Bulganin
Nikolai Shvernik
Nikolai Voznesensky
Nikolai Yezhov
Otto Kuusinen
Palmiro Togliatti
Sergei Kirov
Sergo Ordzhonikidze
Stanislav Kosior
Trofim Lysenko
Vyacheslav Menzhinsky
Walter Ulbricht
Wilhelm Pieck
William Z. Foster

[Ostrinski]

kaganovich

[Il Medico]

Down with Choibalsan!

[Art Vandelay]

William Z. Foster must be pppuuuuuurrrrgggggeeeedddd! With an ice pick, I suggest.

[Rusty Shackleford]

Browder!

[Comrade Dracula]

Browder.

[Brutus]

Malenkov
He got so fat he began to lose human appearance

[Flying Purple People Eater]

Browder.

[Sea]

Out with Jacky Gleason Malenkov!
Gorky must stay!

Definitely get rid of Molotov.Keep up that subversive talk and I'll be organizing a book burning. :cursing:

[Ostrinski]

this is getting boring

[Ismail]

Browder 3
Malenkov 2
Kaganovich 1
Choibalsan 1
Foster 1

"To Browder: Received Foster's telegram [which criticized Browder's views]. Please report which leading party comrades support his views. I am somewhat disturbed by the new theoretical, political, and tactical positions you are developing. Are you not going too far in adapting to the altered international situation, to the point of denying the theory and practice of class struggle and the necessity for the working class to have its own independent political party? Please reconsider all of this and report your thoughts."
(Dimitrov to Browder, March 1944, quoted in Harvey Klehr & John Earl Haynes. The Soviet World of American Communism. New York: Vail-Ballou Press. 1998. p. 106.)

Round 10

Anastas Mikoyan
Andrei Andreyev
Andrei Gromyko
Andrei Vyshinsky
Andrei Zhdanov
Andrija Hebrang
Bolesław Bierut
Boris Ponomarev
Dmitri Manuilsky
Dolores Ibárruri
Ernst Thälmann
Gao Gang
Genrikh Yagoda
Georgi Dimitrov
Georgi Malenkov
Georgi Zhukov
Gheorghe Gheorghiu-Dej
Harry Haywood
Ho Chi Minh
Ivan Maisky
Jacques Duclos
Jānis Rudzutaks
Khorloogiin Choibalsan
Klement Gottwald
Klement Voroshilov
Lazar Kaganovich
Maurice Thorez
Matyás Rákosi
Maxim Gorky
Maxim Litvinov
Mikhail Kalinin
Mikhail Suslov
Nikolai Bulganin
Nikolai Shvernik
Nikolai Voznesensky
Nikolai Yezhov
Otto Kuusinen
Palmiro Togliatti
Sergei Kirov
Sergo Ordzhonikidze
Stanislav Kosior
Trofim Lysenko
Vyacheslav Menzhinsky
Walter Ulbricht
Wilhelm Pieck
William Z. Foster

[Roach]

Yagoda.

[Comrade Dracula]

Yagoda.

[GiantMonkeyMan]

Kaganovich. Fucker lasted too long in real life.

[Brutus]

Yagoda, we shall purge te NKVD one by one

[soso17]

Yagoda's gotta GOda!

[Brutus]

Sorry, double post

[l'Enfermé]

Yagoda must die he didn't shoot nearly enough Trotskyist fascists.

[Sea]

Yagoda, we shall purge te NKVD one by one

[Ismail]

Yagoda 6
Kaganovich 1

Yagoda is doomed. I have no relevant quotes, woe is me.

Round 11

Anastas Mikoyan
Andrei Andreyev
Andrei Gromyko
Andrei Vyshinsky
Andrei Zhdanov
Andrija Hebrang
Bolesław Bierut
Boris Ponomarev
Dmitri Manuilsky
Dolores Ibárruri
Ernst Thälmann
Gao Gang
Georgi Dimitrov
Georgi Malenkov
Georgi Zhukov
Gheorghe Gheorghiu-Dej
Harry Haywood
Ho Chi Minh
Ivan Maisky
Jacques Duclos
Jānis Rudzutaks
Khorloogiin Choibalsan
Klement Gottwald
Klement Voroshilov
Lazar Kaganovich
Maurice Thorez
Matyás Rákosi
Maxim Gorky
Maxim Litvinov
Mikhail Kalinin
Mikhail Suslov
Nikolai Bulganin
Nikolai Shvernik
Nikolai Voznesensky
Nikolai Yezhov
Otto Kuusinen
Palmiro Togliatti
Sergei Kirov
Sergo Ordzhonikidze
Stanislav Kosior
Trofim Lysenko
Vyacheslav Menzhinsky
Walter Ulbricht
Wilhelm Pieck
William Z. Foster

[Rusty Shackleford]

Palmiro Togliatti must be purged for his revisionism.

[GiantMonkeyMan]

Yeah, purge Togliatti.

[Comrade Dracula]

Palmiro Togliatti.

[Sam_b]

Matyás Rákosi, fuck that guy.

[Paul Pott]

It is a travesty that Yezhov has survived this long.

Shoot him in his own torture chamber.

[Ismail]

Togliatti 3
Rákosi 1
Yezhov 1

Once again nothing to quote. :(

Round 12

Anastas Mikoyan
Andrei Andreyev
Andrei Gromyko
Andrei Vyshinsky
Andrei Zhdanov
Andrija Hebrang
Bolesław Bierut
Boris Ponomarev
Dmitri Manuilsky
Dolores Ibárruri
Ernst Thälmann
Gao Gang
Georgi Dimitrov
Georgi Malenkov
Georgi Zhukov
Gheorghe Gheorghiu-Dej
Harry Haywood
Ho Chi Minh
Ivan Maisky
Jacques Duclos
Jānis Rudzutaks
Khorloogiin Choibalsan
Klement Gottwald
Klement Voroshilov
Lazar Kaganovich
Maurice Thorez
Matyás Rákosi
Maxim Gorky
Maxim Litvinov
Mikhail Kalinin
Mikhail Suslov
Nikolai Bulganin
Nikolai Shvernik
Nikolai Voznesensky
Nikolai Yezhov
Otto Kuusinen
Sergei Kirov
Sergo Ordzhonikidze
Stanislav Kosior
Trofim Lysenko
Vyacheslav Menzhinsky
Walter Ulbricht
Wilhelm Pieck
William Z. Foster

[Rusty Shackleford]

We be killin' Kalinin

[Brutus]

I went with Kalinin a few rounds ago, so, I'll go with him again.

[Delenda Carthago]

dej

[PC LOAD LETTER]

Ismail must be purged for his failure to provide relevant quotations on at least two occasions.


My vote is for Ismail.

[Ismail]

Kalinin 2
Dej 1
Ismail 1

Kalinin wrote a short letter on his deathbed to Stalin, saying that in the late 20's Bukharinists approached him about the possibility of working against Stalin. Kalinin refused, but never notified the Party about this bit of factionalism. So... the letter was meant to rectify that.

Round 13

Anastas Mikoyan
Andrei Andreyev
Andrei Gromyko
Andrei Vyshinsky
Andrei Zhdanov
Andrija Hebrang
Bolesław Bierut
Boris Ponomarev
Dmitri Manuilsky
Dolores Ibárruri
Ernst Thälmann
Gao Gang
Georgi Dimitrov
Georgi Malenkov
Georgi Zhukov
Gheorghe Gheorghiu-Dej
Harry Haywood
Ho Chi Minh
Ivan Maisky
Jacques Duclos
Jānis Rudzutaks
Khorloogiin Choibalsan
Klement Gottwald
Klement Voroshilov
Lazar Kaganovich
Maurice Thorez
Matyás Rákosi
Maxim Gorky
Maxim Litvinov
Mikhail Suslov
Nikolai Bulganin
Nikolai Shvernik
Nikolai Voznesensky
Nikolai Yezhov
Otto Kuusinen
Sergei Kirov
Sergo Ordzhonikidze
Stanislav Kosior
Trofim Lysenko
Vyacheslav Menzhinsky
Walter Ulbricht
Wilhelm Pieck
William Z. Foster

[PC LOAD LETTER]

Ismail again! He's failed us as a human encyclopaedia of relevant quotes from or about communists! Twice!! He must be purged!

[Il Medico]

Khorloogiin Choibalsan

[Brutus]

Yezhov

[Comrade Dracula]

Yezhov.

[Paul Pott]

Once more, Yezhov.

[Roach]

Ismail.

[soso17]

That dastardly little troll Yezhov!

[Comrade Samuel]

DONT YOU FOOLS KNOW?!????!! ISMAIL IS UNPURGEABLE!

My vote goes to Kirov this time around.

[Questionable]

How did Yezhov even survive this long? My vote is for him.

[Ismail]

Yezhov 5
Ismail 2
Choibalsan 1
Kirov 1

"According to a memorandum left by a delegate to the Eighteenth Party Congress, which opened in March 1939, Ezhov was still free then, though several of his top aides had been arrested. At a meeting of the Council of Elders, apparently an informal group of top delegates within the Central Committee, Stalin called Ezhov forward. The Gensec asked him who various arrested NKVDists were. Ezhov replied:

'Joseph Vissarionovich! You know that it was I—I myself!—who disclosed their conspiracy! I came to you and reported it. . . .'

Stalin didn't let him continue. 'Yes, yes, yes! When you felt you were about to be caught, then you came in a hurry. But what about before that? Were you organizing a conspiracy? Did you want to kill Stalin? Top officials of the NKVD are plotting, but you, supposedly, aren't involved. You think I don't see anything?! Do you remember who you sent on a certain date for duty with Stalin? Who? With revolvers? Why revolvers near Stalin? Why? To kill Stalin? And if I hadn't noticed? What then?!'

Stalin went on to accuse Yezhov of working too feverishly, arresting many people who were innocent and covering up for others.

Ezhov was arrested a few days later. Roy Medvedev reports that he was shot in July 1940, after being held in a prison for especially dangerous 'enemies of the people.' A recent Russian publication confirms that Ezhov was arrested in 1939 and shot in 1940, 'for groundless repressions against the Soviet people.'"
(Robert W. Thurston. Life and Terror in Stalin's Russia. New Haven: Yale University Press. 1996. pp. 116-117.)

Round 14

Anastas Mikoyan
Andrei Andreyev
Andrei Gromyko
Andrei Vyshinsky
Andrei Zhdanov
Andrija Hebrang
Bolesław Bierut
Boris Ponomarev
Dmitri Manuilsky
Dolores Ibárruri
Ernst Thälmann
Gao Gang
Georgi Dimitrov
Georgi Malenkov
Georgi Zhukov
Gheorghe Gheorghiu-Dej
Harry Haywood
Ho Chi Minh
Ivan Maisky
Jacques Duclos
Jānis Rudzutaks
Khorloogiin Choibalsan
Klement Gottwald
Klement Voroshilov
Lazar Kaganovich
Maurice Thorez
Matyás Rákosi
Maxim Gorky
Maxim Litvinov
Mikhail Suslov
Nikolai Bulganin
Nikolai Shvernik
Nikolai Voznesensky
Otto Kuusinen
Sergei Kirov
Sergo Ordzhonikidze
Stanislav Kosior
Trofim Lysenko
Vyacheslav Menzhinsky
Walter Ulbricht
Wilhelm Pieck
William Z. Foster

[Brutus]

Gromyko
Mr nyet

[Questionable]

I wonder what will happen now that most of the popular Stalinists are gone.

Anyway, let's pay back Lysenko for that disastrous agricultural plan.

[Paul Pott]

Mikoyan.

[Roach]

lyseko and mikoyan

[Ismail]

lyseko and mikoyanYou can't vote twice in the same turn.

[soso17]

Lets get rid of Kirov...the traditional start to any good purge!

[Ismail]

Lysenko 2
Mikoyan 1
Kirov 1
Gromyko 1

"In 1948 when Lysenko wrote that 'any science is class-oriented', Stalin crossed it out adding in the margins, 'HA-HA-HA ! ! ! And what about Mathematics? And what about Darwinism?'" - Stalin: A New History, p. 285.

Round 15

Anastas Mikoyan
Andrei Andreyev
Andrei Gromyko
Andrei Vyshinsky
Andrei Zhdanov
Andrija Hebrang
Bolesław Bierut
Boris Ponomarev
Dmitri Manuilsky
Dolores Ibárruri
Ernst Thälmann
Gao Gang
Georgi Dimitrov
Georgi Malenkov
Georgi Zhukov
Gheorghe Gheorghiu-Dej
Harry Haywood
Ho Chi Minh
Ivan Maisky
Jacques Duclos
Jānis Rudzutaks
Khorloogiin Choibalsan
Klement Gottwald
Klement Voroshilov
Lazar Kaganovich
Maurice Thorez
Matyás Rákosi
Maxim Gorky
Maxim Litvinov
Mikhail Suslov
Nikolai Bulganin
Nikolai Shvernik
Nikolai Voznesensky
Otto Kuusinen
Sergei Kirov
Sergo Ordzhonikidze
Stanislav Kosior
Vyacheslav Menzhinsky
Walter Ulbricht
Wilhelm Pieck
William Z. Foster

[PC LOAD LETTER]

Ho Chi Minh!!

[Brutus]

Nooooooooooooo

[Comrade Dracula]

Ho Chi Minh.

[Brutus]

No chi min!!!!!! Leave him alone!

[soso17]

I'm sticking with Kirov!

[Brutus]

Kirov gives us an excuse to kill zinoviev

[PC LOAD LETTER]

All that's going to be left at the end is Stalin's janitor.

[Paul Pott]

Mikoyan.

[Ismail]

Ho 2
Kirov 2
Mikoyan 1

"Stalin, like his counterpart in Washington, was inclined to consider Indochina from a European perspective: endorsement of Ho might jeopardize the prospects of the French Communist Party to assume power in France. Furthermore, Stalin was not certain whether Ho was a bona fide Communist. The Vietnamese leader's united front policy, which gave priority to national independence over social revolution, and his dissolution of the ICP in 1945 caused uneasiness in the Kremlin. (It is interesting to note that the CCP's similar united front approach in organizing the new government in 1949 also caused suspicion in Moscow.)" - China and the Vietnam Wars, 1950-1975, p. 13.

"Ho Chi Minh [when secretly visiting Moscow in 1950] raised the question of our supplying the fighting Vietnamese with arms. He was grateful for anything he could get from the Soviet Union for the struggle that Vietnam was waging against the French occupation forces. I liked him very much. And so I felt deeply offended by the way Stalin characterized Ho after our conversation. We had no exchange of views on the subject, but I could see that the others felt as I did and didn't agree with Stalin and his negative comments. He spoke scornfully about Ho Chi Minh and used all kinds of offensive and insulting terms. There was no feeling of sincerity in his remarks, and yet we wanted sincerity to be shown by Stalin as the leader of the world Communist movement, sincerity in relation to a Communist leader like Ho Chi Minh, who under the most difficult circumstances had been able to organize the Communist movement in his country, had raised up his people in rebellion, and for so many years had been waging a successful struggle to liberate his country. A reverential attitude attitude could have been taken in the presence of this man. Gratitude could have been expressed to him for his selfless service to the Communist cause, to which he had devoted all his efforts and abilities.

During one of our talks Ho took a Soviet magazine out of his briefcase. As I recall, it was the magazine entitled SSSR na stroike (The USSR Under Construction), and he asked Stalin to write something on it for him. In France autograph hunting is widespread, and Ho [who had lived in France for a number of years] was not free of that vice. Of course he was tempted by the prospect of showing people Stalin's autograph when he returned to Vietnam. I don't know what happened. Probably there was a manifestation of Stalin's same old illness—his suspiciousness and mistrustfulness. He later gave orders to the security police to find the magazine and confiscate it. Apparently he felt that he had shown a lack of caution when he signed his name on the cover of the magazine. No difficulties were encountered—they turned everything upside down and inside out at the place where Ho was staying and brought back the magazine. Then Stalin joked: 'He's going to reach for it, and the magazine won't be there.' I don't know whether Ho told anyone that the magazine had disappeared, but I imagined his feelings when he opened his suitcase and found that this magazine, so precious to him, was gone. You can imagine the poison that entered into the soul of such a sincere man as Comrade Ho.

During that visit the decision was made to recognize the Democratic Republic of Vietnam. Later Stalin often returned to this question and expressed regrets: 'We were too hasty; we shouldn't have recognized them. We gave them recognition too early.' This indicated that Stalin did not believe in the possibility of victory for the movement that Comrade Ho was leading in Vietnam.

I remember another troubling incident. Ho very much wanted his visit to Moscow to be announced publicly. He spoke to Stalin about this. I wasn't present on that occasion; I only heard about it from Stalin afterward. Stalin told us that Ho wanted to be received officially as a representative of Vietnam. 'But I told him that the right moment had been missed. You're already in Moscow. You came here unannounced, so how can we announce you now?' To this Ho replied: 'Let's do it this way. Give me a plane, I'll go up in the air, the appropriate preparations will be announced, and when I land a welcoming ceremony will be organized corresponding to my rank as chief of state.' Stalin laughed and made fun of him. 'Imagine what he wanted. He wanted that! Ha, ha!' No, Stalin didn't believe in the possibility of victory for the guerrillas in Vietnam." - Memoirs of Nikita Khrushchev: Statesman, 1953-1964, pp. 498-499.

As for Kirov, there's no quotes by Stalin 'bout him.

Round 16

Anastas Mikoyan
Andrei Andreyev
Andrei Gromyko
Andrei Vyshinsky
Andrei Zhdanov
Andrija Hebrang
Bolesław Bierut
Boris Ponomarev
Dmitri Manuilsky
Dolores Ibárruri
Ernst Thälmann
Gao Gang
Georgi Dimitrov
Georgi Malenkov
Georgi Zhukov
Gheorghe Gheorghiu-Dej
Harry Haywood
Ivan Maisky
Jacques Duclos
Jānis Rudzutaks
Khorloogiin Choibalsan
Klement Gottwald
Klement Voroshilov
Lazar Kaganovich
Maurice Thorez
Matyás Rákosi
Maxim Gorky
Maxim Litvinov
Mikhail Suslov
Nikolai Bulganin
Nikolai Shvernik
Nikolai Voznesensky
Otto Kuusinen
Sergo Ordzhonikidze
Stanislav Kosior
Vyacheslav Menzhinsky
Walter Ulbricht
Wilhelm Pieck
William Z. Foster

[PC LOAD LETTER]

Ismail has failed us again! He has only provided quotes for one of the two purged parties!

Ismail must be purged!

[Brutus]

Malenkov
Why is he so fat?! PUURRGGEEEEEEE,!,!!!!111one one

[Comrade Dracula]

Malenkov.

[Brutus]

Am I the only one that feels sorry for ho?

[Yet_Another_Boring_Marxist]

Am I the only one that feels sorry for ho?

I <3 uncle ho :( Stalin why you so mean to him?

Malenkov

[soso17]

Am I the only one that feels sorry for ho?

No, you're not. I kinda dig Ho.

I'll go with Malenkov.

[Ismail]

Malenkov 4
Ismail 1

Bertram Wolfe, discussing Soviet historiography and the treatment of Molotov, Kaganovich and Malenkov in post-1956 histories: "The rotund Malenkov, once Stalin's chief of cadres, a party secretary, a member of the high military council that ran the great Patriotic War, main reporter at the Nineteenth Congress, after Stalin's death both General Secretary and Premier at least for nine days has also ended up without a past, a bit of rubbish for the 'anti-party' dustbin. A historian cannot help but feel that each of these is entitled to more space, if not a better fate.

In such a bureaucratic history, a party congress is an epoch-making event. At the Nineteenth Congress, held when the aging Stalin was three months from death, Molotov made the opening address, Malenkov delivered the main political report, Beria the report on the nationalities problem, Saburov on the fifth Five Year Plan, Khrushchev, Bulganin and Mikoyan on the revision of the party statutes and Kaganovich on the revision of its program. Mysteriously now the Congress discusses reports but there are no reporters and no contents. Only Khrushchev remains as the sole reporter on the party statutes, from which statutes a seven-line quotation constitutes the only words immortal enough to get into the pages of history." - Communist Totalitarianism: Key to the Soviet System, 1961, p. 89.

Round 17

Anastas Mikoyan
Andrei Andreyev
Andrei Gromyko
Andrei Vyshinsky
Andrei Zhdanov
Andrija Hebrang
Bolesław Bierut
Boris Ponomarev
Dmitri Manuilsky
Dolores Ibárruri
Ernst Thälmann
Gao Gang
Georgi Dimitrov
Georgi Zhukov
Gheorghe Gheorghiu-Dej
Harry Haywood
Ivan Maisky
Jacques Duclos
Jānis Rudzutaks
Khorloogiin Choibalsan
Klement Gottwald
Klement Voroshilov
Lazar Kaganovich
Maurice Thorez
Matyás Rákosi
Maxim Gorky
Maxim Litvinov
Mikhail Suslov
Nikolai Bulganin
Nikolai Shvernik
Nikolai Voznesensky
Otto Kuusinen
Sergo Ordzhonikidze
Stanislav Kosior
Vyacheslav Menzhinsky
Walter Ulbricht
Wilhelm Pieck
William Z. Foster

[PC LOAD LETTER]

Ismail!

I'll get you this time

[Il Medico]

I vote Stalin. Purge the purger!

[Ismail]

I vote Stalin. Purge the purger!Nevaaaaaaaaa.

[soso17]

Say goodbye to Sergo. He had a fondness for young girls, no?

[Flying Purple People Eater]

Sergo.

[Brutus]

Say goodbye to Sergo. He had a fondness for young girls, no?
So did Beria. I second sergo

[Rusty Shackleford]

Voroshilov. Lets ice the old bolsheviks before its too late!

[p0is0n]

Otto Ville Kuusinen. Know practically nothing about the guy short of the fact that he played a realing role in the revolution of 1918 and that he was the leader of the KFSR.

I have finnish relatives, and some of them fought for the Punaiset (Reds) in the civil war. I remember hearing tales of the terror of the whites, in particular an event where one of my relatives was captured together with other reds and then taken to a room with two lines. They were then told to pick one of the lines. What they didn't know, was that one of the lines lead to a prison camp, and the other one to execution.

My relative picked the line which lead to execution, but apparently one of the reds had bribed a white soldier for information, so he picked a few people from the line that lead to execution and had them chagne lines. Could not make more than a few of them change lines, or otherwise the whites would have suspected something and killed everyone.

Since I don't really know that much about Otto Ville Kuusinen, I don't really have anything against him. But still, he's the only one I reacted to, so off to the gulag with him!

[Ismail]

Ordzhonikidze 3
Kuusinen 1
Voroshilov 1
Ismail 1
STALINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN 1

"It appears that in late 1936 Ordzhonikidze had wavered in his judgment of his longtime subordinate, Piatakov. In a speech Ordzhonikidze gave in early December, he departed from his notes to say that he had spent many sleepless nights wondering how wrecking could have occurred in the Commissariat of Heavy Industry. He asked Bukharin, ironically, what he thought of Piatakov and appeared to agree with the reply that it was hard to know when the latter was telling the truth and when he was speaking from 'tactical considerations.' According to Bukharin's wife, Anna Larina, Ordzhonikidze met with Piatakov in prison at this point and asked him twice if his testimony was entirely voluntary. Upon receiving the answer that it was, Ordzhonikidze appeared shaken. If he had doubts about a man he had worked with and trusted for years, those in the CC who were more distant from Piatakov certainly felt surer of his guilt... the question for members of the party's elite would therefore have been not whether treason had existed but its present scope."
(Robert W. Thurston. Life and Terror in Stalin's Russia. New Haven: Yale University Press. 1996. p. 46.)

Round 18

Anastas Mikoyan
Andrei Andreyev
Andrei Gromyko
Andrei Vyshinsky
Andrei Zhdanov
Andrija Hebrang
Bolesław Bierut
Boris Ponomarev
Dmitri Manuilsky
Dolores Ibárruri
Ernst Thälmann
Gao Gang
Georgi Dimitrov
Georgi Zhukov
Gheorghe Gheorghiu-Dej
Harry Haywood
Ivan Maisky
Jacques Duclos
Jānis Rudzutaks
Khorloogiin Choibalsan
Klement Gottwald
Klement Voroshilov
Lazar Kaganovich
Maurice Thorez
Matyás Rákosi
Maxim Gorky
Maxim Litvinov
Mikhail Suslov
Nikolai Bulganin
Nikolai Shvernik
Nikolai Voznesensky
Otto Kuusinen
Stanislav Kosior
Vyacheslav Menzhinsky
Walter Ulbricht
Wilhelm Pieck
William Z. Foster

[Brutus]

Vorshilov

[Comrade Dracula]

Gao Gang.

[Roach]

Thorez

[PC LOAD LETTER]

Ismail

[Drosophila]

Walter Ulbricht

[Art Vandelay]

Ismail!

[Paul Pott]

Mikoyan.

[Ismail]

Voroshilov 1
Gao 1
Thorez 1
Ulbricht 1
Mikoyan 1
Ismail 2 DIVIDED BY 3 EQUALS LESS THAN 1

Outside of Hoxha quotes, there's not much I can say 'bout those above.

Round 19

Andrei Andreyev
Andrei Gromyko
Andrei Vyshinsky
Andrei Zhdanov
Andrija Hebrang
Bolesław Bierut
Boris Ponomarev
Dmitri Manuilsky
Dolores Ibárruri
Ernst Thälmann
Georgi Dimitrov
Georgi Zhukov
Gheorghe Gheorghiu-Dej
Harry Haywood
Ivan Maisky
Jacques Duclos
Jānis Rudzutaks
Khorloogiin Choibalsan
Klement Gottwald
Lazar Kaganovich
Matyás Rákosi
Maxim Gorky
Maxim Litvinov
Mikhail Suslov
Nikolai Bulganin
Nikolai Shvernik
Nikolai Voznesensky
Otto Kuusinen
Stanislav Kosior
Vyacheslav Menzhinsky
Wilhelm Pieck
William Z. Foster

[PC LOAD LETTER]

Ismail you have been purged!

Or have you ascended into the force like Hoxha and Obi-Wan Kenobi?

[Ismail]

Ismail you have been purged!

Or have you ascended into the force like Hoxha and Obi-Wan Kenobi?I divided 2 by 3, thus saving myself from doom.

[PC LOAD LETTER]

My vote is for Ismail again!

People's war (against Ismail)!

[Rusty Shackleford]

Vo ro shi lov

[Sea]

John Cleese Bolesław Bierut.

[ellipsis]

this seems like a forum game... IST VERBOTEN!

[Ismail]

Vo ro shi lovHe's already purged.


this seems like a forum game... IST VERBOTEN!Nay, see: http://www.revleft.com/vb/showpost.php?p=2563030&postcount=25

[Flying Purple People Eater]

Ismail.

[ellipsis]

I was just trollin' yall a little. Carry on.

[Comrade Dracula]

Zhukov.

[soso17]

Zhukov
?????

[Ismail]

Zhukov 2
Bierut 1

"With the army he followed another tactic. He found the way to win over the main military cadres who had distinguished themselves in the Great Patriotic War, but who had become bourgeois in peace-time. In particular, Khrushchev exploited the ambitions of Marshal Zhukov, whom he made Minister of Defence and a member of the Presidium of the CC of the CPSU thus winning him over. By means of Zhukov, at the head of the army, he organized the plot and putsch against the 'anti-Party group' of Molotov, Malenkov and Kaganovich in 1957. Having the leadership of the security organs and the army on its side, the Khrushchev clique liquidated the Leninist policy on cadres and replaced it with the personal policy of the clique in power. However, Khrushchev was afraid of Zhukov’s pronounced ambitions for power, and so he eliminated him from the leadership by means of plots and putsches." - Mark Vuksaj in Soviet Revisionism and the Struggle of the PLA to Unmask It, p. 159.

Round 20

Andrei Andreyev
Andrei Gromyko
Andrei Vyshinsky
Andrei Zhdanov
Andrija Hebrang
Bolesław Bierut
Boris Ponomarev
Dmitri Manuilsky
Dolores Ibárruri
Ernst Thälmann
Georgi Dimitrov
Gheorghe Gheorghiu-Dej
Harry Haywood
Ivan Maisky
Jacques Duclos
Jānis Rudzutaks
Khorloogiin Choibalsan
Klement Gottwald
Lazar Kaganovich
Matyás Rákosi
Maxim Gorky
Maxim Litvinov
Mikhail Suslov
Nikolai Bulganin
Nikolai Shvernik
Nikolai Voznesensky
Otto Kuusinen
Stanislav Kosior
Vyacheslav Menzhinsky
Wilhelm Pieck
William Z. Foster

[PC LOAD LETTER]

Conor Oberst

[soso17]

Maxim Gorky.

[Rusty Shackleford]

Gorky

And Oberst because fuck him.

[Brutus]

Oberst
Not Gorky!!!!

[Comrade Dracula]

Gorky must be eliminated.

[Brutus]

I vote comrade dracula

[Comrade Dracula]

I vote comrade dracula

How amusing, the ally of worthless reactionaries! Enough of your nonsense! Away with your reactionaries! The Revolution must triumph!

The vote stays Gorky... But we shall meet again, blood of volk.

[Ismail]

Gorky 3

So yeah, you killed MAXIM GORKY.

Round 21

Andrei Andreyev
Andrei Gromyko
Andrei Vyshinsky
Andrei Zhdanov
Andrija Hebrang
Bolesław Bierut
Boris Ponomarev
Dmitri Manuilsky
Dolores Ibárruri
Ernst Thälmann
Georgi Dimitrov
Gheorghe Gheorghiu-Dej
Harry Haywood
Ivan Maisky
Jacques Duclos
Jānis Rudzutaks
Khorloogiin Choibalsan
Klement Gottwald
Lazar Kaganovich
Matyás Rákosi
Maxim Litvinov
Mikhail Suslov
Nikolai Bulganin
Nikolai Shvernik
Nikolai Voznesensky
Otto Kuusinen
Stanislav Kosior
Vyacheslav Menzhinsky
Wilhelm Pieck
William Z. Foster

[PC LOAD LETTER]

bullshit Conor Oberst got three votes, too. Why didn't Oberst get purged?

Conor Oberst!!!

[Brutus]

They purged Gorky! You bastards!

[Comrade Dracula]

Gheorghe Gheorghiu-Dej. The purges must continue at all costs.

[Brutus]

I second 'comrade' dracula

[Ismail]

Dej 2

Dej is dead. Not a whole lot to say about him that doesn't come from ENVER HOXHA.

Round 22

Andrei Andreyev
Andrei Gromyko
Andrei Vyshinsky
Andrei Zhdanov
Andrija Hebrang
Bolesław Bierut
Boris Ponomarev
Dmitri Manuilsky
Dolores Ibárruri
Ernst Thälmann
Georgi Dimitrov
Harry Haywood
Ivan Maisky
Jacques Duclos
Jānis Rudzutaks
Khorloogiin Choibalsan
Klement Gottwald
Lazar Kaganovich
Matyás Rákosi
Maxim Litvinov
Mikhail Suslov
Nikolai Bulganin
Nikolai Shvernik
Nikolai Voznesensky
Otto Kuusinen
Stanislav Kosior
Vyacheslav Menzhinsky
Wilhelm Pieck
William Z. Foster

[Brutus]

Why did we kill hoxha? We should Have kept him as a quote machine.
Oh well... Forward with the purges! Death to foster!!

[Comrade Dracula]

... And so I find myself in agreement with the descendant of volk. Welp, enough talk. Let's purge Foster.

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

Dammit! I just found this thread and I'm too late to save Gorky. What was the rationale? I'm actually rather fond. Oh, well.

Can we purge Jacques Duclos? He negotiated with the Nazis (given, unsuccessfully, before playing his role in the FTP). Also, he was at the head of the party in '68, and, well, way to fuck that one up.

[Art Vandelay]

Ismail!

[Ismail]

Foster 2
Duclos 1

Not much to report either here.

Round 23

Andrei Andreyev
Andrei Gromyko
Andrei Vyshinsky
Andrei Zhdanov
Andrija Hebrang
Bolesław Bierut
Boris Ponomarev
Dmitri Manuilsky
Dolores Ibárruri
Ernst Thälmann
Georgi Dimitrov
Harry Haywood
Ivan Maisky
Jacques Duclos
Jānis Rudzutaks
Khorloogiin Choibalsan
Klement Gottwald
Lazar Kaganovich
Matyás Rákosi
Maxim Litvinov
Mikhail Suslov
Nikolai Bulganin
Nikolai Shvernik
Nikolai Voznesensky
Otto Kuusinen
Stanislav Kosior
Vyacheslav Menzhinsky
Wilhelm Pieck

[PC LOAD LETTER]

Kaganovich!!

[Comrade Dracula]

Andrei Andreyev. He won the previous round, he shall not win this one.

[Brutus]

Andrei Andreyovich Andreyev- seriously, all of his family must have been called andrei

[Sentinel]

Kaganovich. Oh and noone touch Andrei Gromyko, the coolest stalinist ever. He was never purged, but remained foreign minister of the USSR until he retired; acquiring the title of Chairman of the Supreme Soviet for the last years.

Due to his harsh negotiating style he was known in the west as Comrade Niet and Grim Grom. He was so damn cool, actually, that I got my second given name after him. My mother even wanted to call me Andrei in first name actually, but my father and my grandparents objected.. :grin:

[Red Commissar]

Wilhelm Pieck because we need to make the party into a Soviet sausage fest.

[Rusty Shackleford]

wilhelm pieck

[Ismail]

Pieck 2
Kaganovich 2
Andreyev 2

Kaganovich recalling Khrushchev: "I was the one who pushed him up as I thought him to be a capable person. But he had been a Trotskyist. I informed Stalin that he had been a Trotskyist. I told this to Stalin when Khrushchev was elected a member of the Moscow Committee. Stalin asked: 'How is he now?' I replied: 'He is fighting against the Trotskyists, genuinely, actively'. Stalin then asked me to support him on behalf of the CC at the conference.

[...]

Khrushchev came to me during the conference in tears and asked me whether he should speak or not. I told him that I would consult Stalin. Stalin suggested that he should speak, narrate, everything, and later on I was supposed to speak and express trust in him on behalf of the CC." (Source (http://www.revolutionarydemocracy.org/rdv1n2/chuyev.htm))


Round 24

Andrei Gromyko
Andrei Vyshinsky
Andrei Zhdanov
Andrija Hebrang
Bolesław Bierut
Boris Ponomarev
Dmitri Manuilsky
Dolores Ibárruri
Ernst Thälmann
Georgi Dimitrov
Harry Haywood
Ivan Maisky
Jacques Duclos
Jānis Rudzutaks
Khorloogiin Choibalsan
Klement Gottwald
Matyás Rákosi
Maxim Litvinov
Mikhail Suslov
Nikolai Bulganin
Nikolai Shvernik
Nikolai Voznesensky
Otto Kuusinen
Stanislav Kosior
Vyacheslav Menzhinsky

[Comrade Dracula]

Ivan Maisky. Let the purge commence!

[Brutus]

Democratic centralism demands I go with my comrade who has a fondness for impaling Turks

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

I still want to get rid of Duclos. Way to help prevent the collapse of the imperialist French state, and pave the way for Eurocommunism, asshole.

[Brutus]

I still want to get rid of Duclos. Way to help prevent the collapse of the imperialist French state, and pave the way for Eurocommunism, asshole.

Later comrade. The purges must be steady, as to root out ALL counter revolutionaries!

[Kalinin's Facial Hair]

Zhdanov, time to go.

And may you take your socialist realism with you.

[Art Vandelay]

We must purge Ismail!

[Sentinel]

Wow, my fellow finn Kuusinen is still in the game. Pretty much the only one of the leaders of the finnish revolution in 1918 who wasn't purged after fleeing to Russia, as he was such a stalinist.

So let's purge the asshole now then. :grin:

[PC LOAD LETTER]

We must purge Ismail!
I've tried that like four times but he won't purge himself




I vote for Ismail!!!

[Comrade Dracula]

But think, if we purge the Purgator, who's gonna do the purges? I propose the following strategy: Purge all the counterrevs, then purge the Purgator himself.

Diabolical, ain't it? Almost like a minimal and a maximal program.

[Brutus]

We are like the central committee, and Ismail is Yezhov.

[Brutus]

Are you small and bisexual, Ismail?

[Ismail]

Maisky 2
Duclos 1
Zhdanov 1
Kuusinen 1

Maisky was accused of being a British agent about a year before Stalin died. He was apparently accused of working with Alexandra Kollontai (who had passed away by then) in this capacity.

Round 25

Andrei Gromyko
Andrei Vyshinsky
Andrei Zhdanov
Andrija Hebrang
Bolesław Bierut
Boris Ponomarev
Dmitri Manuilsky
Dolores Ibárruri
Ernst Thälmann
Georgi Dimitrov
Harry Haywood
Jacques Duclos
Jānis Rudzutaks
Khorloogiin Choibalsan
Klement Gottwald
Matyás Rákosi
Maxim Litvinov
Mikhail Suslov
Nikolai Bulganin
Nikolai Shvernik
Nikolai Voznesensky
Otto Kuusinen
Stanislav Kosior
Vyacheslav Menzhinsky

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Andrei Gromyko

[Comrade Dracula]

Gromyko. Let's see how well the old Mr. Nyet can deal with a hail of lead.

[bricolage]

dump Rákosi

[Brutus]

I voted for mr nyet early on. No one followed suit. Ràkosi

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

*sigh* Not to be a broken record, but . . . Duclos?

[Ismail]

Gromyko 2
Rákosi 2
Duclos 1

"One day Stalin called us to him and said, 'Rakosi has come for a holiday in the Caucasus. He called and asked my permission.' So what? But we were silent. 'Someone better call Rakosi and tell him to come over here.' Someone phoned Rakosi. Then Stalin said, 'How does Rakosi know whenever I'm in the Caucasus? Apparently some sort of intelligence network is informing him. He should be discouraged from this.' So Rakosi had fallen onto the list of suspects!

When Rakosi arrived he joined us for dinner and took part in our drinking parties. Once Rakosi said, 'Listen, what's going on here? Look at all this drunkenness!' None of us wanted to live like this, but nonetheless we took offense at Rakosi's remark. Beria told Stalin that Rakosi had called us a bunch of drunkards. Stalin answered, 'All right, we'll see about that.'

That very night Stalin started pumping drinks into Rakosi—two or three bottles of champagne and I don't know how much wine. Somehow he pulled through. The next day he left. Stalin was in a good mood all day and joked, 'You see what sort of state I got him into?'" - Khrushchev Remembers.

Round 26

Andrei Vyshinsky
Andrei Zhdanov
Andrija Hebrang
Bolesław Bierut
Boris Ponomarev
Dmitri Manuilsky
Dolores Ibárruri
Ernst Thälmann
Georgi Dimitrov
Harry Haywood
Jacques Duclos
Jānis Rudzutaks
Khorloogiin Choibalsan
Klement Gottwald
Maxim Litvinov
Mikhail Suslov
Nikolai Bulganin
Nikolai Shvernik
Nikolai Voznesensky
Otto Kuusinen
Stanislav Kosior
Vyacheslav Menzhinsky

[PC LOAD LETTER]

Bierut because that's not how you spell Beirut

[Brutus]

Duclos