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freepalestine
10th January 2013, 15:44
Who was behind PKK assassination in Paris?

Jan 10, 2013 18:54 Moscow Time
As peace talks got under way between the Kurdistan Workers Party (Parti Karkerani Kurdistan or PKK) and the Turkish Government three women associated with the PKK including a co-founder were found assassinated in Paris France. The heinous crime is currently being investigated but there is speculation, mostly from the Turkish side that the executions have to do with the fact the PKK and the Turkish authorities have begun peace talks to end the decades old conflict.
Sakine Cansiz a female co-founder of the Kurdistan Workers Party (Parti Karkerani Kurdistan or PKK) militant gro.....
http://english.ruvr.ru/2013_01_10/Who-was-behind-PKK-assassination-in-Paris/



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Kurdish activists killed after Turkey announces peace plan with PKK


Members of the Kurdish community in France demonstrate while two men, left, carry the body of one of the three Kurdish women shot dead at the Kurdish Institute on 10 January 2013 in Paris. (Photo: AFP - Thomas Samson.)
Published Thursday, January 10, 2013
Three Kurdish female political activists, including the founder of the PKK, were killed Wednesday inside the Kurdish Institute of Paris, a police source told AFP.

The murders came after Turkish media reported Wednesday that the Turkish government and Abdullah Ocalan, the jailed leader of the PKK, a left-wing Kurdish.....
http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/kurdish-activists-killed-after-turkey-announces-peace-road-map-pkk



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Sasha
10th January 2013, 19:03
hate to speculate on this but any chance these women opposed the (course of the) negotiations?

LeonJWilliams
10th January 2013, 19:16
Knowing the behaviour of the Turkish government for killing left-wing journalists it's possible they were behind it.

Turkish government is completely fascist.

Sasha
10th January 2013, 19:19
on the other hand internal factional violence is not unheard of either in the PKK.

but my money would be for now on greywolves/deepstate-ultranationalist types that want to frustrate the peace process

Red Commissar
10th January 2013, 19:41
PKK-linked news sources have been giving this particular incident a lot of coverage. They also have a story about the backgrounds of each of the women.

http://en.firatnews.com/index.php?rupel=article&nuceID=5550

Art Vandelay
11th January 2013, 01:45
I'm interested to see how this develops as more information is released.

Sasha
16th January 2013, 16:09
Since the murders two Kurdish cultural spaces, one in viena and one in Genk have been firebombed. If related this might be an organised co-ordinated effort of the greywolves or other para-state thugs.

Art Vandelay
16th January 2013, 18:33
Since the murders two Kurdish cultural spaces, one in viena and one in Genk have been firebombed. If related this might be an organised co-ordinated effort of the greywolves or other para-state thugs.

What are the grey wolves?

Tim Cornelis
16th January 2013, 19:08
What are the grey wolves?

The Grey Wolves is the unofficial youth wing of the fascist Turkish MHP party. In Europe, or at least in the Netherlands, it's not necessarily a youth movement. They are quite prone to violence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_Wolves
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalist_Movement_Party

They enjoy quite a support within Turkish communities in Europe.

Ravachol
16th January 2013, 19:27
The Grey Wolves is the unofficial youth wing of the fascist Turkish MHP party. In Europe, or at least in the Netherlands, it's not necessarily a youth movement. They are quite prone to violence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_Wolves
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalist_Movement_Party

They enjoy quite a support within Turkish communities in Europe.

They also have very close ties to the Turkish National Intelligence Organization (MIT) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Intelligence_Organization_(Turkey)) and have been connected to the Turkish stay-behind organization kontrgerilla (counter-guerrilla) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-Guerrilla) as well as conspiracy theories surround the so-called 'Deep State' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_state) (though the latter is often used as an excuse by the ruling AKP regime to get rid of internal opposition.

l'Enfermé
16th January 2013, 19:45
What are the grey wolves?
Far-right ultra-nationalist "youth organisation"(their official name is "Idealist Turkish Youth "or something like that). Basically a very violent paramilitary. Since the 70s, the scumbags probably killed a few thousand leftists, trade unionists, journalists, Kurd separatists, Armenians(in Azerbaijan) and so on. They weren't just active in Turkey, but also all over Europe, they participated in the pogroms against Greeks in Cyprus, the massacres of Armenians by Azerbaijanis, they even used to be involved in the Palestinian movement. They function as an arm of Turkish state intelligence in the EU, infiltrate local politics and occasionally assassinate people. Naturally, they also have ties with the Turkish mafia.

Ravachol
16th January 2013, 20:29
Far-right ultra-nationalist "youth organisation"(their official name is "Idealist Turkish Youth "or something like that). Basically a very violent paramilitary. Since the 70s, the scumbags probably killed a few thousand leftists, trade unionists, journalists, Kurd separatists, Armenians(in Azerbaijan) and so on. They weren't just active in Turkey, but also all over Europe, they participated in the pogroms against Greeks in Cyprus, the massacres of Armenians by Azerbaijanis, they even used to be involved in the Palestinian movement. They function as an arm of Turkish state intelligence in the EU, infiltrate local politics and occasionally assassinate people. Naturally, they also have ties with the Turkish mafia.

Though it should be said that the 'grey wolves' (which is more of a catch-all name for a milieu than a solid organisation) within the Turkish diaspora in Europe don't operate like a paramilitary. They draw a lot of youth based on what is essentially a mix of gang appeal and cultural baggage from family or friends. They also control a large part of the drug trade (esp. heroin) in North-West Europe.

If you can read Dutch (or use google translate), there's a lot of information about their activities in the Netherlands, Belgium, Germany and some in Turkey here: http://afa.home.xs4all.nl/comite/artikel.html