Dave Chapelle is reactionary?

[Lord Daedra]

Many of his jokes involve stereotypes and fried chicken, therefor making him evil (whoops evil's not a thing anymore) :tt2:

No but seriously he's funny get over it.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

I'm not familiar with Chapelle. I like Reginald D Hunter:

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[Dennis the 'Bloody Peasant']

I'm not familiar with Chapelle. I like Reginald D Hunter:

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He is good, Chapelle is superb (admittedly only seen a couple of specials and some clips from the Dave Chapelle Show, but still hilarious)

[Geiseric]

Dave Chapelle is making fun of white people, as a white person I think it's hilarious. He has fucking paul mooney on his show.

[Art Vandelay]

Dave Chappelle is awesome if only for calling out that 'the secret' nonsense for what it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbS9jZOlQjc

[Comrade Samuel]

Dave Chappelle has always been one of my favorite comedians, it's funny you would mention it because when responding to the recent thread "racist 'funny' pics" I considered referring to his material as an example of acceptable racial humor.

Also I heard he's finally come back and started doing stand-up again, is this true?

[Let's Get Free]

It's called satire, irony, and self reflexivity. It calls attention to ignorance in a funny and racist manner, but it's doing so in a jokingly fashion, poking fun at the stereotypes that exist and drawing attention to how ridiculous they are. That's not being reactionary it's called comedy.

[RadioRaheem84]

He is most certainly not a reactionary but he does peddle the same racial stereotypes that border on insulting. It's not even intelligent satire it's damn near street level ignorance that would be considered borderline racist if it was a bunch of "hillbillies" doing the same. Paul Mooney I can understand, his stuff seems more reflective, I guess but the average stuff Chapelle skitted was funny but I wouldn't deem worth praising. Didn't he himself get tired of it?

I am not trying to say Chapelle isn't funny as hell but his how was just full of racial stereotypes to me, and not even ones that are self reflective satire or observational humor, but real deal culturally ignorant humor.

I look back at Chapelle on reruns and think I used to laugh at this junk? Especially now that I am much aware socially, some of it I can see as offensive. But then that's what most of comedy is now is faux-observational humor; satire that masks as satire but just peddles racial stereotypes for laughs.

I mean everything from the white guys trying to act "black" or "rap", which is the most tiring cliche of them all and now that actual white writers overuse I think it's their subtle way to poke fun at the genre and urban culture, to all Hispanics being one monolitihic group that eat tacos and dance all night or eat stuff out of foil, to Jews being penny pinchers to white people being too goofy to dance? I mean this is stuff I thought was funny in high school and I am surprised it's still being used. You would think newer material especially with the advent of class being blatantly obvious now more than ever and the veil lifted on the rich like never before, that class would be at the center focal point of comedy, but it's still race??? And not just race but tired oh so tired racial stereotypes????

[Grigori]

To be fair Chapelle is funny because he is street level. Ivory tower thought processes and non controversal jokes doesn't work in extended comedy.

[Os Cangaceiros]

Race humor (which wasn't all of what Dave Chapelle did, but judging from his specials that I've seen, there was quite a bit of it...with other comedians it's almost their entire act) just seems to easy. It just seems like some comedians come out on stage and trot out the same old stereotypes vis-a-vis the different "races", and get an easy laugh that way. Feels like the same joke is being repeated after a while.

[Conscript]

The focus on racial humor is, as far as I know, the big reason why he stopped doing his show.

[Lord Daedra]

The racial stereotype pixies sketches drove him too far.

[A Revolutionary Tool]

Dave Chappelle is one of my favorite comedians, the first episode of the Chappelle show where he's a blind KKK leader who thinks he's white has to be one of my favorite episodes of any comedy show ever.

[RadioRaheem84]

Race humor (which wasn't all of what Dave Chapelle did, but judging from his specials that I've seen, there was quite a bit of it...with other comedians it's almost their entire act) just seems to easy. It just seems like some comedians come out on stage and trot out the same old stereotypes vis-a-vis the different "races", and get an easy laugh that way. Feels like the same joke is being repeated after a while.

This. I mean race jokes are the bread and butter of many mediocre comics. My friend is a comic and hanging around a bunch of comics in LA you see just how cheap and easy race jokes are. These comics know they're usually not true but they get a cheap laugh.

I still cringe whenever a comic on stage or in skit says, "an X doing X on a Sunday" or something cheap like that. I always want to go, yeah probably, world is pretty big.

Remember those Skittles commercials about the Scottish Asian and how that was a contradiction? I mean would it be that hard to fathom an Asian person growing in Glasgow or Edinburgh? I can picture an Asian American, Asian Brit and an Asian Australian. I know it's trivial to think this deep about a Skittles comericial but people's perception about other people in the world is totally skewed. I mean if I've seen a Korean girl raised in Chile and speak with a pitch perfect Chilean accent then I can picture anything and anyone, anywhere.

[PC LOAD LETTER]

Someone mentioned Paul Mooney ... I remember after the show got yanked, I was watching reruns and one episode with an "Ask A Black Dude With Paul Mooney" sections came on. Towards the end he said something along the lines of "The white men take everything. White men are gonna take your show one day, too, you just watch."

Rather prophetic given later events

[Jack]

The focus on racial humor is, as far as I know, the big reason why he stopped doing his show.

This, he said something about not wanting to build his career on that anymore and really got sick of it. Now he lives on a farm in a small Ohio town and is a practicing Muslim.

Also when he did the racial humor it was still decently fresh material, you had people like Chris Rock doing the same things but not in the same way. Then people like Carlos Mencia came along and had to kill it for everybody.

[Geiseric]

Someone mentioned Paul Mooney ... I remember after the show got yanked, I was watching reruns and one episode with an "Ask A Black Dude With Paul Mooney" sections came on. Towards the end he said something along the lines of "The white men take everything. White men are gonna take your show one day, too, you just watch."

Rather prophetic given later events

Holy shit he called it so bad.

[RadioRaheem84]

I think so if I remember correctly. He just had enough. I mean I understand because I hang out with comics who use the racial stuff for cheap laughs but don't believe in the stuff they say. They just perpetuate ignorant racial stereotypes for laughs. I would get sick of that too especially after you made your millions and you don't have put up with it anymore.

The pixie skits were what sent me over the edge, so I could imagine it sending Chappelle over too.

[Conscript]

This, he said something about not wanting to build his career on that anymore and really got sick of it. Now he lives on a farm in a small Ohio town and is a practicing Muslim.

Also when he did the racial humor it was still decently fresh material, you had people like Chris Rock doing the same things but not in the same way. Then people like Carlos Mencia came along and had to kill it for everybody.

Exactly, and comedy central hasn't let up on it sadly. Key and peele :rolleyes:

[Jack]

Exactly, and comedy central hasn't let up on it sadly. Key and peele :rolleyes:

Which isn't even remotely funny.

[Manic Impressive]

I don't really know Chappelle but a lot of what is being said here reminds me of how people used to defend Bernard Manning. Same arguments being used.

[Conscript]

Which isn't even remotely funny.

Too true, it can pretty much be summed up as 'white ppl do dis, black ppl do dis'

Chappelle might've rode the racial humor fad but there was a lot of originality to his skits. I've been watching it again on netflix and the ashy larry bit gave me side cramps.

And the music specials remind me how much hip hop has changed (for the worse imo).

[Zostrianos]

This, he said something about not wanting to build his career on that anymore and really got sick of it. Now he lives on a farm in a small Ohio town and is a practicing Muslim.


He's actually been a practicing Muslim since 98

[Geiseric]

The best part of Chapelles show is when he puts on white face and pretends to be the racist ass news anchor, or when Paul Mooney is on the show.

[Zostrianos]

Dave Chappelle is one of my favorite comedians, the first episode of the Chappelle show where he's a blind KKK leader who thinks he's white has to be one of my favorite episodes of any comedy show ever.
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/82404406/

I also love his Tyrone the crackhead skits, but the KKK one beats them all.

[Jason]

You'd have to be an over-sensitive idiot to be offended by his comedy. Obviously, it's a cyncial satire of racism, not the "Amos and Andy Show". Now if people on Stormfront were doing the same, then it wouldn't be funny, obviously. So who is telling the joke is important.