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Lord Daedra
3rd January 2013, 19:33
If world revolution were to succeed, would it be beneficial for that new society to distinguish itself from the old be creating new systems of thought and measurement a la the french?

Tjis
3rd January 2013, 19:44
If world revolution were to succeed, would it be beneficial for that new society to distinguish itself from the old be creating new systems of thought and measurement a la the french?

No. Not for the purpose of distinguishing anyway. Of course, a fundamental change in society could very well lead to new ideas, and I'd in fact be very surprised if it didn't, but the goal of communism is not to be different but to abolish class relations. Something like the metric system does not perpetuate class relations, so there's no fundamental need for it to go.

Lenina Rosenweg
3rd January 2013, 19:54
New systems of thought presumably would emerge organically without any need to impose them.

Renaming months, days of the week, years, etc. might be a bit silly.

Having said this....


There was an interesting article recently in (I believe) Salon.com about the "Crayolization" of the world. Apparently our current organisation and perception of colors is largely arbitrary.Apparently traditional Japanese culture did not distinguish, or at least have as much of a barrier, between the colors of blue and green. They only became separate colors after the diffusion of crayons after the Second World War.

http://www.empiricalzeal.com/2012/06/05/the-crayola-fication-of-the-world-how-we-gave-colors-names-and-it-messed-with-our-brains-part-i/


As I understand the Whorf-Sapir hypothesis, the language determnes how we perceive reality, isn't as popular as it was but I still think that language and culture can influence our perception of the world.

Anyway it is likely that our perception of time, as well as distance. may become much different in a post-capitalist society-David Harvey talks about this. I think thi9s would emerge organically out of people's lived experience though.

Tjis
3rd January 2013, 20:44
As I understand the Whorf-Sapir hypothesis, the language determnes how we perceive reality, isn't as popular as it was but I still think that language and culture can influence our perception of the world.


I too think this is the case, but would like to add that also reality determines language and culture. Obviously one's location on earth has a lot to do with the language they speak and the kind of concepts they're likely to use, but many other factors come into play as well, such as class, race and gender. In modern-day society, where geographic location matters less and less in determining our daily experience, these other factors have become more important. Since a revolution would (hopefully!) fundamentally change these factors, language and culture would probably change as well. Organically, as you said.

Furthermore on the topic of a revolutionary organisation imposing such changes, surely there'd be more pressing concerns. I've always found it somewhat ridiculous that the french revolutionaries cared so much about changing the calendar, while so many people had to deal with hunger and poverty.