Spanish Civil Guard

[MaximMK]

There was this photo on facebook from Marx showing the spanish civil guard executing a guy during the civil war. I was motivated to so some research and saw they are formed long time before the war but they were one of the organizations in the war that fought on the side of Franco. What bothered me is their emblem.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/42/Emblem_of_the_Spanish_Civil_Guard.svg

See they have the fascist symbol there. I guess it was put there during the time of Franco. But why is it still there. I understand the conservatives are in charge now but hasn't there been i don't know some initiative to change it or something.

[DDR]

The fasces is a roman symbol of authority, so what's the problem here? Worse is that in the 21st Century, there's lots of republicans buried in ditches across the country while the names of the dead nationals are have a sing in almost every church that says Caidos por Dios y por ESpaña (fallen for god and for spain), firts and foremost Primo de Rivera.

[MaximMK]

Youll expect that from churches. Those religious guys always back the conservatives. They want dominance. And conservatives always use nationalism and religion together to brainwash the people.

[p0is0n]

The fasces can be found on a lot of things.

For example the Swedish police:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c6/Polisen_logo.svg/200px-Polisen_logo.svg.png


Or the United States senate:


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f0/Seal_of_the_United_States_Senate.svg/200px-Seal_of_the_United_States_Senate.svg.png

Or the French coat of arms:


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/Armoiries_r%C3%A9publique_fran%C3%A7aise.svg/200px-Armoiries_r%C3%A9publique_fran%C3%A7aise.svg.png



As DDR mentions above, it is not necessarily meant to symbolize fascism, or "forgotten in there" after the fall of fascism, etc. There are hundreds of instances where the fasces is used, from everything to logos and coats of arms and flags. I reacted fairly similiarly when I first looked closer at the Swedish police logo many years ago, because the fasces was equivelant to a nazi swastika to me at the time.

[Os Cangaceiros]

There was this photo on facebook from Marx showing the spanish civil guard executing a guy during the civil war. I was motivated to so some research and saw they are formed long time before the war but they were one of the organizations in the war that fought on the side of Franco.

I don't think all of them did though. IIRC from Anthony Beevor's book, the Civil Guard were stationed in the rural countryside of Spain, and about 60 percent allied themselves with Franco's side when the war initially broke out. The forces stationed in urban areas (the Assault Guard, I believe?) had the same percentages, only the opposite...about 60 percent remained loyal to the republic.

[Rafiq]

http://americanbuilt.us/images/facism/Lincoln-Memorial-fasces.jpg

Well o'shit! Guess O'l Lincoln was a fascist.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/194/495388416_878fc8b27f.jpg

Make nothing of it. It's a common western symbol.