Get The Internationalist November-December 2012!

[Dabrowski]

Get The Internationalist November-December 2012!

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In this issue:


A Capitalist Disaster: Class, Race and Hurricane Sandy
No Choice for Workers in Capitalist Election Shell Game
Los trabajadores de Hot and Crusty triunfan con contrato que abre camino
Zionist Mass Murderers Strike Again: Defend Gaza!
Barack Obama's Global Assassination Bureau
Defend the ILWU!
Don't Fall for the Mediation Trap! Mobilize for a Nationwide ILWU-ILA Port Strike
Chicago Teachers: Strike Was Huge, Settlement Sucks
UFT Censors Opposition to Obama Endorsement
Fast Food Workers Need a Whopping Raise And a Fighting Union!
For A Class-Struggle Fight Against Poverty Wages!
Walmart Walkouts Show Potential for Class Struggle
For Real Solidarity with Bangladesh Workers
Working Families Party: Putting Lipstick on a Pig
South Africa: Bloody Mine Massacre Unmasks ANC Neo-Apartheid Regime
For a South African Internationalist Trotskyist Group
Hot and Crusty Workers Win With Groundbreaking Contract

[hetz]

More than half the articles deal with local US issues, then you have an article on Gaza, SA and Bangladesh.
And this site isn't here for you to advertise your papers for free.

[Q]

And this site isn't here for you to advertise your papers for free.

Actually, this propaganda subforum is meant for that. Even though no one is really waiting for these.

[The Idler]

How is this Trot different from the next?

[Q]

How is this Trot different from the next?

They are the real thing, all the rest is only ostensibly revolutionary.

Of course, in one way or another, that is what they all say.

[blake 3:17]

"Working Families Party: Putting Lipstick on a Pig" is pretty good, maybe the highlight.

[The Idler]

For what it's worth, I am genuinely curious about differences. Anyway, watch this space I guess.

[Dabrowski]

Anyone who is genuinely interested in finding out what a leftist organization stands for might start by reading that organization's newspaper. I know, it requires some actual effort, but that's politics.

There are many articles from the current and previous issues on-line at the Internationalist Group website (http://www.internationalist.org/).

A brief summary of some highlights of the organization's history and program is on the web here (http://www.internationalist.org/welcome.html).

[blake 3:17]

I agree with about 95% of it, pretty much the same as all the other far left papers.

While I understand the logic, the ex-Spart line on BDS is really just sectarian. I'm finding it harder and harder to believe the call for a workers or labor party in the US when the folks calling for it aren't going to work in it. It'd make more sense to call for Socialist-Green co-operation and run some serious candidates and try to build a worker-community alliance within that.

I'd also suggest folks read Mike Davis' Late Victorian Holocausts vis a vis hurricanes and the relations between social and natural disaster.

Most of us in Marxist groups are in small sects. The question becomes whether we want to keep it that way or participate in broader forms of change. I was impressed with a couple of the ex-Sparts in the ILWU when they talked about really engaging in the movement and carrying through with radicalizing the union and the membership.

[Lev Bronsteinovich]

For what it's worth, I am genuinely curious about differences. Anyway, watch this space I guess.
Their positions, for the most part, are very similar to those of the Spartacist League. I think they are bit full of rah, rah, the workers are going to win, rhetoric -- that fails to understand what is actually going on in the world today, but they are pretty good. No real justification for a separate organization from the Sparts -- although both groups will freak out at this comment. I have read the documents around the split -- it is totally a "he said, she said" affair. With some heavy handed moves by the SL leadership against Norden, Stamberg and a few others. I believe both groups uphold a genuinely Trotskyist program.