Conflict between Feminism and LGBTQ rights?

[Lokomotive293]

I noticed that there seem to be conflicting demands between Feminists and the LGBTQ movement. For example, the demand that no one should be required to identify as a certain gender would conflict with the demand for quotas for women. Now, I think both demands are valid and important, and I'm somewhat confused as to how to reconcile them. What are your opinions on this?

[Trans Queers for Satan]

As a trans queer woman:
That's not entirely true; feminism doesn't necessarily encourage people to identify with non-cis gender identities, but just tries to (and fails to in my opinion) accept people who do identify as trans/non-binary. Likewise, they pursue (half-heartedly) anti-discrimination legislation for trans people. They're trying to cover both bases - trans people and women.
But honestly, the LGBT movement, as well as feminism (and even so-called "radical" feminism), are pretty bourgeois and, well, liberal. They put forth a very shallow analyses of gender and sexuality and appeal mainly to middle-class white people, so they're really of little consequence to radical leftism of any kind.

[ind_com]

What if identifying with one of the genders is made voluntary?

[TheGodlessUtopian]

I noticed that there seem to be conflicting demands between Feminists and the LGBTQ movement. For example, the demand that no one should be required to identify as a certain gender would conflict with the demand for quotas for women.

"quotas for woman"? Can you explain this a bit?

[Lokomotive293]

"quotas for woman"? Can you explain this a bit?

E.g. if you elect people to certain positions in a political organization, you have a quota of at least 50% women, in a debate, after a man, there should always be a woman speaking, and the other way around,...
It's something that's pretty common in left organizations, which I think is good, but it becomes a problem when you have people who don't identify as either man or woman. I don't think people should be required to identify as a certain gender, though, and that is where the conflict comes in.

[ind_com]

If those who don't want to identify as men or women form a sizable portion of the population, then we can have quotas for them too.

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

Are women the subject of feminism? Or is the constitution of a "woman" subject necessarily the constitution of a subject-of patriarchy, and its contingent juridico-political forms? What if the historical task of women is their abolition-as-such?

*head explodes*

[Danielle Ni Dhighe]

Considering feminism has almost as many tendencies as the left does, it's dubious to make broad generalizations about it.

[Lokomotive293]

Considering feminism has almost as many tendencies as the left does, it's dubious to make broad generalizations about it.

Ok, no generalizations. How can you reconcile those two demands I listed? Should you? Is one of them wrong? Are both wrong?

[Danielle Ni Dhighe]

Ok, no generalizations. How can you reconcile those two demands I listed? Should you? Is one of them wrong? Are both wrong?
Between quotas for women and a demand that no one should be forced to identify as a certain gender based on their biological sex, I don't really see a conflict necessarily, even though the former sounds like a formulation of certain bourgeois feminists.