The 4th Riech?

[mr.red]

do you guys believe in the theory of the new world order and the 4th riech

[Rusty Shackleford]

NWO is ridiculous, the "world order" is in constant motion and its not on the agenda of some secret committee of banksters(read: jewish). The 4th reich is a joke but the EU is economically centered around Germany and France. After the unification of Germany, German imperialists made off with quite a bit of loot after the NATO bombing of the former Yugoslavia.

[GoddessCleoLover]

I believe in proofreading one's post to catch simple spelling errors.;)

[Yuppie Grinder]

We're in on it, duh. Don't you know anything about communism? We're for the enslavement of the Aryan race by a global semetic reptilian dictatorship. Black people will own white slaves, homosexuality will be taught in schools, mad blunts will be smoked.

[Ostrinski]

No. Conspiracy theories are all horseshit and based on arbitrarily invented premises and wildly drawn conclusions.

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

Alex Jones meets Antonio Negri.
White overalls and Guy Fawkes masks.
Occupy and the new constitution of Civil Society against the 1%'s Empire.
Empire as not a stage of capitalism but an elaborate conspiracy.

This is going to rule.

[Os Cangaceiros]

Is the "4th Reich" (lol) about Germany?

Man, what is it about Germany?

You can keep 'em down for a while, but it seems like they always get back to having the rest of Europe over a barrel.

I shouldn't generalize like that, though, it makes me sound like an anti-German. I read part of a book about WW2 recently, though, and there was a quote from Stalin in it in which he said "Communism fits Germany like a saddle fits a cow." I thought that was amusing for some reason.

[Sea]

You can keep 'em down for a while, but it seems like they always get back to having the rest of Europe over a barrel.You obviously know nothing of the Germans.

They'll have us over a keg, not a barrel. :tt2:
I shouldn't generalize like that, though, it makes me sound like an anti-German. I read part of a book about WW2 recently, though, and there was a quote from Stalin in it in which he said "Communism fits Germany like a saddle fits a cow." I thought that was amusing for some reason.Stalin has always been my #1 source for cow-related wisdom.

[Rugged Collectivist]

"Communism fits Germany like a saddle fits a cow." I thought that was amusing for some reason.

Was it because the thought of a cow wearing a saddle is fucking hilarious?

[Os Cangaceiros]

Was it because the thought of a cow wearing a saddle is fucking hilarious?

Maybe. Some people just didn't have a very high opinion of German communism I guess. Lenin supposedly said that "If the Germans staged a revolution at the train station, they would buy tickets for the platform first." Germans apparently got a good ribbing from some Russian communists.

[ВАЛТЕР]

Answer the guy's question seriously dudes/dudettes.

No, conspiracy theories are nonsense and have no basis in reality. All of that NWO crap they come up with falls apart on its own since it has incredible holes in its logic.

Hell, I'm starting to think that conspiracy theories are becoming like religion now. They are used to explain away things that people don't understand. I also find them incredibly defeatist since anything that happens is "part of their plot" and there is nothing we can do about it, except buy more merchandise from Alex Jones and the other fuckfaces who peddle that nonsense.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Obviously they needed a larger saddle. :laugh:

The thing about NWO-style conspiracy theories is that the masterminds behind such plots eventually become nigh-omnipotent in order to explain away the lack of evidence despite an increasing number of years this conspiracy is operating, as well as an increasing number of people involved.

[TheRedAnarchist23]

The people of Portugal like to think of Merkel as a nazi, in all demonstrations we see images like this: http://eurokulture.missouri.edu/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/nazi-merkel.jpg

[Ostrinski]

Anyone ever notice how self righteous these people are? Everyone but them are mere sheeple that lack the wisdom to understand their insane theories.

[bcbm]

so what really happens at the bohemian grove, smart guys?

[Os Cangaceiros]

^rich people do human sacrifices before Moloch, duh

[Lynx]

Nevermind the Fourth Reich, I'm still waiting for the Sixth Estate.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Any relation to the Fifth Column?

[Q]

Nevermind the Fourth Reich, I'm still waiting for the Sixth Estate.


Any relation to the Fifth Column?

And what about the 7th International?

[Lynx]

And what about the 7th International?
It's right behind the 8th ball.

[jookyle]

The "New World Order" is just something people who like capitalism came up with as way to blame certain individuals/groups of people for corrupting capitalism. The fact is, as long as capitalism exists, there will always be a small group of the population (the bourgeoisie) who have a monopoly on world power. It's not a conspiracy, it's simply the result of capitalism.

As far the fourth reich goes, I would suggest you look into some history that shows how western powers took in Nazi's through Project Paperclip and how Nazi's, members of Franco's regime, and Mussolini's were put into positions of power in places like France and Greece after WWII in order to stomp out popular socialist movements and other organizing of a related nature.

[Comrade #138672]

The "New World Order" is just something people who like capitalism came up with as way to blame certain individuals/groups of people for corrupting capitalism. The fact is, as long as capitalism exists, there will always be a small group of the population (the bourgeoisie) who have a monopoly on world power. It's not a conspiracy, it's simply the result of capitalism.

As far the fourth reich goes, I would suggest you look into some history that shows how western powers took in Nazi's through Project Paperclip and how Nazi's, members of Franco's regime, and Mussolini's were put into positions of power in places like France and Greece after WWII in order to stomp out popular socialist movements and other organizing of a related nature.Not necessarily like. In some cases it is a poor understanding of society and history. In these cases, people see the problems, but are unable to see that it is the result of the Capitalist system. So they attribute the problems of Capitalism to mythological figures like Reptilians who could just as well represent the ruling class, just like in the old days when people believed in Zeus causing thunders. People did recognize that something was causing thunders (a class society), but were unable to comprehend them, so they filled the gaps with mythology (conspiracy theories). Still, they attempted to unify everything into a more or less complete 'theory' of reality, despite it lacking in logic and evidence. Like Karl Marx said: "Reason has always existed, but not always in a reasonable form."

You are right that it is used to justify and spread anti-Semitism, but some people accept it, when they lack a reasonable alternative, because it reflects a small shadow of the truth.

[Green Girl]

do you guys believe in the theory of the new world order and the 4th riech

The New World Order was made public by George Bush Sr. when he was President of the USA, and every president since him have said they support the New World Order, so it's no longer a theory. And unlike what some have stated here, it is not a conspiracy theory either but a plan of action to secure a "One World Government" run by the largest multinational corporations, they are NOT secretive about it's existence but they are secretive about HOW they are bringing it about. That is why their meetings are closed off to the press. The press watch the world's business elite and political elite enter and exit these meetings and try to get quotes from them.

Basically what they want is an Earth ruled NOT by governments but by large monopoly capitalist business interests for their benefit only. And all workers would be their slaves to do with as they please, whatever is most beneficial to their corporations. This is why I am anti the capitalist New World Order.

On the other hand I am pro One World Government if it puts the working people in charge and eliminates the relationship between work and money and eliminates money completely.

So what are conspiracy theories? Mostly government covert operations and coverups of now historical events such as JFK's assassination, 9/11, et cetera.

I think the Fourth Reich is still too small to worry about.

[Rafiq]

Why is Green Girl still here?

[Green Girl]

Why is Green Girl still here?

I don't know about YOU but I'm here because I'm a COMMUNIST!!!! And I ABHOR capitalists of ALL stripes, no matter how large. I know that you turn a blind eye to the capitalist/political illuminati and their "New World Order" even though all recent USA presidents George Bush Sr., George W. Bush, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama have all praised the coming New World Order. That makes them tremendous enemies of the working class in my humble opinion.

If the Corporate/Political Elite get their New World Order and we all become slaves it will be people who turn a blind eye that are to blame.

[Leftsolidarity]

The New World Order was made public by George Bush Sr. when he was President of the USA, and every president since him have said they support the New World Order, so it's no longer a theory. And unlike what some have stated here, it is not a conspiracy theory either but a plan of action to secure a "One World Government" run by the largest multinational corporations, they are NOT secretive about it's existence but they are secretive about HOW they are bringing it about. That is why their meetings are closed off to the press. The press watch the world's business elite and political elite enter and exit these meetings and try to get quotes from them.

Basically what they want is an Earth ruled NOT by governments but by large monopoly capitalist business interests for their benefit only. And all workers would be their slaves to do with as they please, whatever is most beneficial to their corporations. This is why I am anti the capitalist New World Order.

On the other hand I am pro One World Government if it puts the working people in charge and eliminates the relationship between work and money and eliminates money completely.

So what are conspiracy theories? Mostly government covert operations and coverups of now historical events such as JFK's assassination, 9/11, et cetera.

I think the Fourth Reich is still too small to worry about.

Well ya sure got your beliefs in one fucked up assbackwards way but I guess you kinda got it?

Only drop everything about almost everything you just said. Keep the bolded part and you're golden.

[Lynx]

That is a NWO I can support.

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

That makes them tremendous enemies of the working class in my humble opinion.

They have never been anything but.


If the Corporate/Political Elite get their New World Order and we all become slaves

This is their world order, and it has been for a long time. Have you been living in a cave, looking to escape that background radiation? Think the rock will save you from electromagnetic fields?