Lenin and "Guerrilla Warfare"

[Comrade Jandar]

http://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1906/gw/index.htm

Just read this piece and found several interesting things about it. I've come to realize that Lenin, as least in his theoretical writings, was far more forgiving of anarchists and their alleged methods than other Marxists. Use these quotes next time a "self-proclaimed" Marxist condescends our anarchist comrades' tactics as being "hooliganism" or slum-proletarian adventurism or whatever esoteric phrasing they use.




When I see Social-Democrats proudly and smugly declaring “we are not anarchists, thieves, robbers, we are superior to all this, we reject guerrilla warfare”,—I ask myself: Do these people realise what they are saying?
But when I see a Social-Democratic theoretician or publicist not displaying regret over this unpreparedness, but rather a proud smugness and a self-exalted tendency to repeat phrases learned by rote in early youth about anarchism, Blanquism and terrorism, I am hurt by this degradation of the most revolutionary doctrine in the world.

[Art Vandelay]

http://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1906/gw/index.htm

Just read this piece and found several interesting things about it. I've come to realize that Lenin, as least in his theoretical writings, was far more forgiving of anarchists and their alleged methods than other Marxists. Use these quotes next time some Orthodox Marxist condescends our anarchist comrades' tactics as being "hooliganism" or slum-proletarian adventurism or whatever esoteric phrasing they use.

Yeah cause this totally only comes from 'orthodox' Marxist. :rolleyes: What on earth are you talking about?

[Flying Purple People Eater]

Orthodox Marxist condescends our anarchist comrades' tactics as being "hooliganism" or slum-proletarian adventurism or whatever esoteric phrasing they use.

Please drop the fucking ad Hominem, guys. If you want to talk shit about your pervasive fantasies of the monolithic, hybrid-stalinist Die Neue Zeit centered reptilian cult, or even if you actually want an engaging debate with the people you so oft slander, make a fucking thread about it. Seriously, it's so infuriating being told what you support by some comical philistine and then being judged upon what the twat's made up! The point has been made again and again that the revolutionary marxist group is not a single set of ideals; there are anarchists and stalinists in there!

If you want to have an argument about the revolutionary marxists group on this board, please make a thread. Stop polluting every single thread you can get into with offtopic crap about how 'DNZ's cadre minions want to participate in bourgeois elections and begin an ethnic cleanse'. Absolute morons.

P.s. The only time I've ever heard the term 'slum-proletarian' thrown around was when DeLeon used it to insult the members of his former union. Oh, the irony.

[Die Neue Zeit]

When I see Social-Democrats proudly and smugly declaring “we are not anarchists, thieves, robbers, we are superior to all this, we reject guerrilla warfare”,—I ask myself: Do these people realise what they are saying?

Break Lenin's words down into the following: "anarchists," "thieves," "robbers," and "we reject guerrilla warfare."

Then make an assessment of what he thought about each. I've written about TWCS, and one of the means of the Bloc of Dispossessed Classes and National Petit-Bourgeoisie to seize power is guerrilla warfare (along with People's War and Breakthrough Military Coups by junior officers)! Next, well, "young Stalin" organized bank heists! Finally, Lenin contrasts anarchism the end goal with anarchism as strategy and with anarchism as tactics.

What you quoted is no defense of Black Bloc stuff.

[Comrade Jandar]

What I was trying to get across is that some Marxists are a bit too quick to criticize "illegalism." That's all. Can we calm down please?

[l'Enfermé]

^That's not what the OP says.

[cantwealljustgetalong]

I suppose if you ignore everything else Lenin ever wrote on anarchism and individual terror of any sort, sure.