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Delenda Carthago
19th December 2012, 23:49
I search jobs in websites and I just was wondering, where do you propose to look?

Os Cangaceiros
20th December 2012, 00:01
Austin, Texas is pretty nice.

Os Cangaceiros
20th December 2012, 00:03
But if you want a job go up to western North Dakota. There's a huge ongoing fuel boom happening there. Even the people who are sweeping floors up there are making fat stacks, supposedly.

Delenda Carthago
20th December 2012, 00:10
But if you want a job go up to western North Dakota. There's a huge ongoing fuel boom happening there. Even the people who are sweeping floors up there are making fat stacks, supposedly.
I m very good at sweeping floors. Talented I d say.

Os Cangaceiros
20th December 2012, 00:15
Here's an article about the situation:

http://www.startribune.com/business/163769716.html?refer=y

go up there and git you sum'

Let's Get Free
20th December 2012, 00:22
I don't know, I've lived in the city I live in now my entire life.

Ostrinski
20th December 2012, 00:54
I'd say the northeast is really cool but also very expensive. Northern California, Washington, and Oregon are probably the prettiest places, and also have probably the highest concentration of leftists here. As far as beauty goes though idk if Greece can be beat!

soso17
20th December 2012, 01:07
If you don't mind winter, Chicago is awesome! Active leftist community, good public transportation, very clean city, AWESOME restaurants and museums. Sweet home Chicago!

GoddessCleoLover
20th December 2012, 01:39
A Greek might be happiest in the town so nice they named it twice. The Big Apple is in some ways the capital of the world, my little Baltimore pales in comparison. There is also a large Greek community there and that might alleviate homesickness. Whether political or cultural or anything else one is more likely to find in in New York than anywhere else.

That is my general answer to the OP given the general nature of the inquiry. If Delenda Carthagio would care to share any more specifics as to what is "cool" to him perhaps my answer would be diffeent.

Delenda Carthago
20th December 2012, 13:51
A Greek might be happiest in the town so nice they named it twice. The Big Apple is in some ways the capital of the world, my little Baltimore pales in comparison. There is also a large Greek community there and that might alleviate homesickness. Whether political or cultural or anything else one is more likely to find in in New York than anywhere else.

That is my general answer to the OP given the general nature of the inquiry. If Delenda Carthagio would care to share any more specifics as to what is "cool" to him perhaps my answer would be diffeent.
I dont know, big city with "fresh spirit", small town with a feeling of community, good music scene, whatever.

I m looking for any job, at any nice place in the world. But I only know english other than greek, so my choices are very limited, and I would prefer USA over UK or Australia(not that I have the privilege to completely exclude them).

Thats the case folks. I would really appreciate a hand.

human strike
21st December 2012, 18:45
From an outsider's perspective, New Orleans looks like a pretty cool place to live.

GoddessCleoLover
21st December 2012, 19:02
I dont know, big city with "fresh spirit", small town with a feeling of community, good music scene, whatever.

I m looking for any job, at any nice place in the world. But I only know english other than greek, so my choices are very limited, and I would prefer USA over UK or Australia(not that I have the privilege to completely exclude them).

Thats the case folks. I would really appreciate a hand.

If I were looking for work the New York-northern New Jersey metropolitan areas would be my destination. Lesser possibilities I would recommend; Washington, DC metropolitan area, but NOT Baltimore, metropolitan Chicago if you can tolerate harsh weather and metropolitan Atlanta if you cannot tolerate harsh weather.

Geiseric
21st December 2012, 19:53
From an outsider's perspective, New Orleans looks like a pretty cool place to live.

New Orleans is one of the worst slums in the U.S. There is one safe street, bourbon street, otherwise you would need an escort to go anywhere else in the city.

San Fransisco is awesome, i've lived here my whole life. Great parks, good people (except for the fucking gentrification, fuck white people) and good weather is like a half hour away.

Workers-Control-Over-Prod
21st December 2012, 20:49
I dont know, big city with "fresh spirit", small town with a feeling of community, good music scene, whatever.

I m looking for any job, at any nice place in the world. But I only know english other than greek, so my choices are very limited, and I would prefer USA over UK or Australia(not that I have the privilege to completely exclude them).

Thats the case folks. I would really appreciate a hand.

I would seriously recommend the Bay Area California. The people are in comparison with the rest of America, very natural, open and social. Also, everything is really quite near. In three hours drive from the ocean you are in the Rocky mountains and can go skiing, within one day hike you can walk through green plains, dry hills, lush redwood forests, fields, ocean cliffs and beach. Public transportation is also not bad in my opinion.

Prometeo liberado
21st December 2012, 21:24
Any answer other than L.A. is ridiculous. Miserable people, sea and sun. :thumbup1:

GoddessCleoLover
21st December 2012, 22:31
Any answer other than L.A. is ridiculous. Miserable people, sea and sun. :thumbup1:

DC can correct if I am wrong, but I surmise that obtaining employment was be high on DC's priority list and I see him having more luck in the New York, Chicago, or Washington DC labor market. FA has a beautiful climate, but that makes labor in abundant supply. Anyone remember that old Woody Guthrie song Do Re Mi? Methinks it applies today as well.

Prometeo liberado
21st December 2012, 22:47
DC can correct if I am wrong, but I surmise that obtaining employment was be high on DC's priority list and I see him having more luck in the New York, Chicago, or Washington DC labor market. FA has a beautiful climate, but that makes labor in abundant supply. Anyone remember that old Woody Guthrie song Do Re Mi? Methinks it applies today as well.

Labor notes for L.A. came out today and unemployment numbers dropped like from 10.7 to 10.2.

GoddessCleoLover
21st December 2012, 23:06
Labor notes for L.A. came out today and unemployment numbers dropped like from 10.7 to 10.2.

US official unemployment statistics have been fraudulent since at least the Reagan years if not before. The real US unemployment rate is approximately double the official rate. Don't mean to be didactic but given this is RevLeft we ought not let bourgeoisie hegemonize us with their false statistics.;)

brigadista
21st December 2012, 23:08
New Orleans is one of the worst slums in the U.S. There is one safe street, bourbon street, otherwise you would need an escort to go anywhere else in the city.




really ??? in 2009 i walked the streets of NOLA with no probs whatsoever ??? and im not american

GoddessCleoLover
21st December 2012, 23:15
New Orleans is one of the worst slums in the U.S. There is one safe street, bourbon street, otherwise you would need an escort to go anywhere else in the city.




really ??? in 2009 i walked the streets of NOLA with no probs whatsoever ??? and im not american

NOLA might be a nice place to visit, but IMO there are MANY better places if finding employment is a priority.

Prometeo liberado
21st December 2012, 23:54
in 2009 i walked the streets of NOLA with no probs whatsoever ??? and im not american
Muggers historically hate the exchange rates, that's why they left you alone.:D

brigadista
22nd December 2012, 00:13
NOLA might be a nice place to visit, but IMO there are MANY better places if finding employment is a priority.

sure you are right about that but i really liked NOLA people were nice had a caribbean type vibe- where i live has a bad reputation mainly from media foolishness - believe you should go and see and not judge from media hype imho

brigadista
22nd December 2012, 00:16
Muggers historically hate the exchange rates, that's why they left you alone.:D

you reckon? i never been mugged despite living in an allegedly high mugging rate area -bs by the way

Trap Queen Voxxy
22nd December 2012, 00:39
http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/EcVlj47JadY/mqdefault.jpg

Piksburgh mothafucka.

Workers-Control-Over-Prod
22nd December 2012, 00:47
US official unemployment statistics have been fraudulent since at least the Reagan years if not before. The real US unemployment rate is approximately double the official rate. Don't mean to be didactic but given this is RevLeft we ought not let bourgeoisie hegemonize us with their false statistics.;)

Not only unemployment statistics, but inflation statistics as well. Many commodities are simply left out by modern statistic boards.

Jack
22nd December 2012, 01:05
Here in my state (Connecticut) we have a lot of recent Greek immigrants, no idea why you guys keep coming here of all places but they seem to be a tight knit community, actually most Greeks in the US are, I've had one joke that by virtue of being Greek they're connected or related to every other Greek in the tri-state area.

So NYC area, Connecticut, northern New Jersey, and Philadelphia area already have a decent population of recent Greek immigrants which might make it easier to find a job and community.

Prometeo liberado
22nd December 2012, 01:28
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Pittsburgh mothafucka.

I used to live off Old Sawmill Road.

Trap Queen Voxxy
23rd December 2012, 00:10
I used to live off Old Sawmill Road.

:cool:

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Rusty Shackleford
23rd December 2012, 08:59
I would seriously recommend the Bay Area California. The people are in comparison with the rest of America, very natural, open and social. Also, everything is really quite near. In three hours drive from the ocean you are in the Rocky mountains and can go skiing, within one day hike you can walk through green plains, dry hills, lush redwood forests, fields, ocean cliffs and beach. Public transportation is also not bad in my opinion.

Actually 3 hours from the bay would put you around the Sierra Nevada mountains. Its a about 11-12 hours minimum to get to the rockies. But, the Sierra Nevada mountains are no less wonderful.

Other than that, Northern Califronia is a nice place. In the summer much of the valley loses its lush green look and can get pretty warm, winters are mild-ish. im referring to the Chico-Modesto(north-south), Rocklin-San Francisco(east west) area.

Humboldt county is a nothern coastal county that is absolutely beautiful. i recently went up there and i felt nothing but absolute joy at what i saw in the early morning on the highway. The whole nothern coastal (and coastal mountain) area is amazing.

Delenda Carthago
24th December 2012, 22:50
http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/EcVlj47JadY/mqdefault.jpg

Piksburgh mothafucka.
The most class consciousness city in the States?

Trap Queen Voxxy
27th December 2012, 01:07
The most class consciousness city in the States?

Yes, where do you think Batman be?

GoddessCleoLover
27th December 2012, 01:21
Yes, where do you think Batman be?

It all comes back to the town so nice they named it twice. And if a Balti-moron like me is recommending the Apple that really means something because Gotham and Bmore be hatin' on each other.:D

Delenda Carthago
30th December 2012, 13:58
Yes, where do you think Batman be?
Does mr. Wayne need someone to clean the house, cut the loan or something?

Danielle Ni Dhighe
30th December 2012, 14:00
Seattle, Washington is a good place to live, with a decent amount of leftists.

hetz
30th December 2012, 14:01
What's the coziest US city/town/village?

Jimmie Higgins
30th December 2012, 14:41
What's the coziest US city/town/village?Kittenpough in VT. Either that or Snuggler's Bend near the Lost Coast in CA.

Ostrinski
30th December 2012, 19:35
seattle has a Lenin statue

Trap Queen Voxxy
2nd January 2013, 16:36
seattle has a Lenin statue

Where?

Ocean Seal
2nd January 2013, 17:06
The most class consciousness city in the States?
Portland and Oakland are probably tied for this. The Pacific Northwest is pretty good as far as jobs and weather, but New York is real and you get the feel of a big city with a lot of different people in it.

Delenda Carthago
2nd January 2013, 17:36
Portland and Oakland are probably tied for this. The Pacific Northwest is pretty good as far as jobs and weather, but New York is real and you get the feel of a big city with a lot of different people in it.
A friend of mine that lives in Oakland actually was the one that told me that Pittsburgh was the one. Working class pride, Steelers and all...

Trap Queen Voxxy
2nd January 2013, 17:40
A friend of mine that lives in Oakland actually was the one that told me that Pittsburgh was the one. Working class pride, Steelers and all...

All I do is go round the city and boros talking to people, it's surprisingly accurate. Though it's pronounced Stillers.

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Vladimir Innit Lenin
2nd January 2013, 17:53
I'd love to go to Asbury Park/Monmouth County that sort of area. Is it any good?

Delenda Carthago
17th January 2013, 22:13
fuckin job research is the best way to feel total worthless in the world.

bricolage
17th January 2013, 23:05
But if you want a job go up to western North Dakota. There's a huge ongoing fuel boom happening there. Even the people who are sweeping floors up there are making fat stacks, supposedly.
Apparently it's also got really weird too cos the male-female ratio is now massively out of balance so if you are a woman you can't really walk down the street or go to a bar without getting hassle like ten times more than you'd normally get anywhere else.

With regards to the question, I've been to New York twice and it's the only place in America I've been, I'd move there in a flash (or a few other places along the east coast) if it wasn't pretty much impossible to get permission to work if you're from the UK.

bricolage
17th January 2013, 23:12
I'd love to go to Asbury Park/Monmouth County that sort of area. Is it any good?
I went to Asbury Park last January for a couple of days, it's a summer resort and so everything was shut which made it kind of strange. The boardwalk is pretty nice I guess (and you can see Madame Marie's shack and a few other Boss-tourism spots), I got good pancakes too. I think, as it's always been - see the 1970s riots - there's still a massive disparity between the largely white, summer holiday orientated boardwalk bit of town and the rest of of town which has the majority of the population who are mostly black, poor and bypassed by the summer tourism. But then I was only there very briefly so can't really comment. Dunno how it got hit by Sandy.

Vladimir Innit Lenin
19th January 2013, 13:18
I went to Asbury Park last January for a couple of days, it's a summer resort and so everything was shut which made it kind of strange. The boardwalk is pretty nice I guess (and you can see Madame Marie's shack and a few other Boss-tourism spots), I got good pancakes too. I think, as it's always been - see the 1970s riots - there's still a massive disparity between the largely white, summer holiday orientated boardwalk bit of town and the rest of of town which has the majority of the population who are mostly black, poor and bypassed by the summer tourism. But then I was only there very briefly so can't really comment. Dunno how it got hit by Sandy.

Was reading Springsteen's new biography. The biographer touched a lot upon the downtrodden white AND black working class neighbourhoods near like Freehold and all that, but totally missed out the 1970s riots, which Springsteen said had quite an effect on him as he watched them happening. Found it a strange omission.

It's strange. It sounds like a shithole but almost like a romanticised shithole. And the music of course. I wonder if there's still a good bar scene there?

Decolonize The Left
20th January 2013, 03:31
San Francisco Bay Area. Next question.

It has it all: big metropolitan city? Check. Ability to not live in downtown? Check. Ability to not live in the city at all? Check. Old-growth redwood forests? Check. Amazing food? Check. Decent public transportation? Check. Water? Check. Mountains? Check. Tons of different people? Check. Freakishly sweet weather? Check.

Was I born and raised there? Yes, so I'm very biased. The only other places I could recommend would be: Seattle, Portland Maine, Chicago, New York, and possibly New Orleans. Pittsburg is cool too. But those all have downsides:
Seattle: raining constantly.
Portland Maine: Freezing half the year.
Chicago: No ocean, no mountains.
New York: Expensive as shit.
New Orleans: Muggy as fuck in summer.

See? SF Bay has it all and sacrifices nothing. Don't be fooled, it actually is that good. Just come and see!

Skyhilist
20th January 2013, 03:43
But on the other hand, fuck natural gas and anyone who associates with fracking. Anyone is capable of researching fracking before working for the industry and realizing just how horrible it is and what a plague on the earth it is. Of course this isn't the workers fault anywhere near as much as it is the corporate leaders, but I still have less respect for anyone who would work for such a harmful, cancerous industry.

Decolonize The Left
20th January 2013, 03:50
But on the other hand, fuck natural gas and anyone who associates with fracking. Anyone is capable of researching fracking before working for the industry and realizing just how horrible it is and what a plague on the earth it is. Of course this isn't the workers fault anywhere near as much as it is the corporate leaders, but I still have less respect for anyone who would work for such a harmful, cancerous industry.

Not to derail this thread, but I'm gonna.

Yeah fracking is unbelievably bad for the planet, but so is burning coal, nuclear testing in the oceans, storing toxic waste in the ground, etc... I say if you gotta get a job then get one, it doesn't matter if it's for the devil - you have got to feed your family, save money, etc...

To hate on someone for working in an industry which hurts the planet, or other people, or anything is silly because capitalism hurts the planet, all the people, and much more. So why victim-blame? The worker is a product of economic circumstance. No need to point the finger, especially when you consider that the worker already has enough fingers raining down the blame. If you need to blame, blame the system.

Skyhilist
20th January 2013, 03:53
Well I mean the worker is certainly exploited, but it's not like fracking is the only work available to them. They're perfectly capable of doing research and realizing that there are way less horrible industries to work in for the planet.

Decolonize The Left
20th January 2013, 03:55
Well I mean the worker is certainly exploited, but it's not like fracking is the only work available to them. They're perfectly capable of doing research and realizing that there are way less horrible industries to work in for the planet.

True, but I'll give you a choice.

Work for a fracking company and get paid $26/hour with some benefits.
Work for a 'socially conscious' company and get paid $15/hour with no benefits. (Assuming there are even two job options available, which is saying quite a bit...)

You pick. Oh, and you have a kid in high school who wants to go to college in 3 years (college costs a minimum of 20k a year) and a spouse who is experiencing minor pains in his/her wrists from working at a computer for the past 15 years and will likely need some sort of medical surgery in the future which will cost thousands of dollars. And you have a mortgage to pay, and car loans, and credit card debt from when you were younger. And your parents will need medical help soon. And... you get the picture.

Skyhilist
20th January 2013, 04:03
True, but I'll give you a choice.

Work for a fracking company and get paid $26/hour with some benefits.
Work for a 'socially conscious' company and get paid $15/hour with no benefits. (Assuming there are even two job options available, which is saying quite a bit...)

You pick. Oh, and you have a kid in high school who wants to go to college in 3 years (college costs a minimum of 20k a year) and a spouse who is experiencing minor pains in his/her wrists from working at a computer for the past 15 years and will likely need some sort of medical surgery in the future which will cost thousands of dollars. And you have a mortgage to pay, and car loans, and credit card debt from when you were younger. And your parents will need medical help soon. And... you get the picture.

That's a fair point. On the other hand, the want for more money ($26/hr over $15/hr) and putting earnings ahead of ethics is the same thing that drives the bourgeoisie, so is this really something that we shouldn't demonize in all classes? I mean if fracking is the only option for someone to financially support themselves, then fine. But otherwise, there's really no excuse regardless of class to be involved in it.

Decolonize The Left
20th January 2013, 04:12
That's a fair point. On the other hand, the want for more money ($26/hr over $15/hr) and putting earnings ahead of ethics is the same thing that drives the bourgeoisie, so is this really something that we shouldn't demonize in all classes? I mean if fracking is the only option for someone to financially support themselves, then fine. But otherwise, there's really no excuse regardless of class to be involved in it.

Earnings aren't being put ahead of ethics. You are assuming that the ethics against fracking trump the ethics towards one's family. In short, that's liberal moralizing.

Skyhilist
20th January 2013, 04:34
Earnings aren't being put ahead of ethics. You are assuming that the ethics against fracking trump the ethics towards one's family. In short, that's liberal moralizing.

Ethics towards one's family can be provided in a variety of jobs. Also, you could also use that same philosophy with bourgeois that have families (e.g. "They're making millions, they can provide even more for they're families, they must be being even more ethical towards them!")
It moralizing = common sense and exercising common decency, then I suppose so.
The fact of the matter is, there's not going to be an instantaneous revolution. So we've gotta stop things like fracking even in a pre-revolution society. With informed and reasonable workers that refuse to work for such a horrid industry, the industry itself loses it's power, even pre-revolution. A worker who can provide to their family or themselves with other work and chooses fracking is choosing to make an unethical decision, and should seen at least partially at fault for doing so, despite the fact that the corporate hacks who run the industry in the first place are obviously by far the most at fault.

Decolonize The Left
20th January 2013, 19:24
Ethics towards one's family can be provided in a variety of jobs. Also, you could also use that same philosophy with bourgeois that have families (e.g. "They're making millions, they can provide even more for they're families, they must be being even more ethical towards them!")
It moralizing = common sense and exercising common decency, then I suppose so.
The fact of the matter is, there's not going to be an instantaneous revolution. So we've gotta stop things like fracking even in a pre-revolution society. With informed and reasonable workers that refuse to work for such a horrid industry, the industry itself loses it's power, even pre-revolution. A worker who can provide to their family or themselves with other work and chooses fracking is choosing to make an unethical decision, and should seen at least partially at fault for doing so, despite the fact that the corporate hacks who run the industry in the first place are obviously by far the most at fault.

Well in the post above you are readily and opening thrusting your personal moral views down the throats of people you've never met and who are in situations you don't understand. Now, to be clear:
I'm not advocating fracking. I think it's terrible.
I'm not advocating working for a fracking company.

What I'm saying is that people need to do what's best for themselves and their families and if that means working for a less-than-awesome company then that's what that means.

Furthermore, where do you draw the line? At what point does a company become "ethically unacceptable" for your taste and why is your taste the taste for all workers? And how do you address the issue that if person A doesn't work for the 'bad company' on ethical grounds that there will almost certainly be a person B who will? Nothing changed in terms of the company, it still got it's worker, only now person A doesn't have a job...

bricolage
21st January 2013, 11:02
It's strange. It sounds like a shithole but almost like a romanticised shithole. And the music of course. I wonder if there's still a good bar scene there?
The Stone Pony still exists but I imagine the 'scene' is just like most Jersey coast places now.

Regarding race/class when I went I did notice a pretty big difference in the boardwalk area being overwhelmingly white and the rest of town overwhelmingly black. But that was just a brief glance so I can't really say too much.

That's a massive omission in the biography though.

Lobotomy
22nd January 2013, 03:53
Where?

Fremont.

They have a huge troll under a bridge there too. and in the summer they have lots of events where hippies get naked and ride bikes. Pretty cool place.

thriller
22nd January 2013, 05:23
Gotta give a shout out to Minneapolis, MN, Santa Cruz, CA, and Madison, WI.
Minneapolis is really fun, nice people, and if you like all seasons, it's great. Santa Cruz is a nice little paradise that has a lot of laid back people. Madison is a good "average" sized city. Nice downtown and double lake front with hella hiking, kayaking, camping, basically wilderness surrounding it.

Popular Front of Judea
22nd January 2013, 14:46
Speaking as a renter subsisting on a low income I would say anywhere but Seattle! ;)

ellipsis
30th January 2013, 21:00
San Francisco/bay area kicks a lot of ass. Parts of new england are nice, mostly western Massachusetts, vermont, northern new hampshire and maine, oh and rhode island.

Hawaii is janus faced.

La GuaneƱa
30th January 2013, 21:22
I'm thinking of moving to Minneapolis-St Paul in the middle of the year. What should I expect?

thriller
31st January 2013, 00:44
I'm thinking of moving to Minneapolis-St Paul in the middle of the year. What should I expect?

Cold. Snow. Some more cold. Funny drunk people.

But in all honesty, expect a pretty cool city that is laid back, but big enough to always find something to do. Lots o parks too. People are generally nice. Only downside is the bars close at 1am. Cedar Ave in South Mnpls has May Day Books, cool leftist bookshop.

Jesus Saves Gretzky Scores
1st February 2013, 03:19
If you don't mind winter, Chicago is awesome! Active leftist community, good public transportation, very clean city, AWESOME restaurants and museums. Sweet home Chicago!
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Sand Castle
1st February 2013, 20:16
I'm also trying to leave my hometown to find work, and generally acceptance. What does everyone think of Buffalo, NY?

NYC is going to be way too expensive, but I'd imagine other parts of New York would be reasonable.

I'd like to find a place with the least amount of hipsters. They ruined Richmond.

I'd also like to find a place where my chances of finding love (cliche, I know) are pretty good. In Richmond, I can't find anyone because of culture here. It's cliqueish, closed-minded, anti-social, and generally holier-than-thou. You can say every place is the same, but I'd disagree. Different cities attract different personality types. That is why some places have more artistic people than others, and some places are more religious than others. Some places are more conservative or progressive than others. Virginia has more assholes than others.

Although, if you like the south, I found North Carolina to have lots of friendly people.

Prometeo liberado
1st February 2013, 23:19
Try out Ocean Beach(O.B.) San Diego, Ca. A very hippie place to be yet fun by the sea. Also called dog shit beach because it is dog friendly.

p0is0n
7th February 2013, 21:09
newark lol