green is the new red

[DeepGreen]

hello friends, im an anarcho-communist turned eco-anarchist living in Eugene, OR!

[Lord Daedra]

So you're a hippy/yippy hybrid?

[Sankaraitis]

Kia ora!

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

DGR =/= anarchists

Further, even as far as weird authoritarian organizations go, the self-appointed jackasses at the top are particularly despicable. Lierre Kieth is an unabashed transphobe, and Derrick Jensen is a profiteering ($1000 for a fucking teleconference?) douche.

I am by no means unsympathetic to anarchist and "anti-civ" politics. I certainly don't oppose DGR insofar as I don't envision communism as "everything that's great about capitalism only better". I oppose DGR because I have have serious concerns that they're simply the model of the LaRouche Movement transposed to a different politic (the same form filled up with different, but ultimately irrelevant, content).

[cynicles]

I find the transphobia prevalent amongst "ecofeminists" like Keith to repulsive and deeply anti materialist.

[Danielle Ni Dhighe]

Yeah. Lierre Kieth. Another pseudo-feminist who thinks hating trans people is "radical."

[Danielle Ni Dhighe]

hello friends, im an anarcho-communist turned eco-anarchist living in Eugene, OR!
Welcome to the board, btw. I was an eco-anarchist and Earth First! supporter back in the late '80s.

[zoot_allures]

DGR =/= anarchists

Further, even as far as weird authoritarian organizations go, the self-appointed jackasses at the top are particularly despicable. Lierre Kieth is an unabashed transphobe, and Derrick Jensen is a profiteering ($1000 for a fucking teleconference?) douche.

I am by no means unsympathetic to anarchist and "anti-civ" politics. I certainly don't oppose DGR insofar as I don't envision communism as "everything that's great about capitalism only better". I oppose DGR because I have have serious concerns that they're simply the model of the LaRouche Movement transposed to a different politic (the same form filled up with different, but ultimately irrelevant, content).
Another "primitivist/anti-civ sympathizer" here, and I think that the environment is the most important issue on the agenda right now. I mean, at this point I'd choose environmentally friendly capitalism over environmentally destructive socialism; I simply don't think that the former is possible (probably not possible period, and certainly not possible under the current circumstances). From what I've read, though, I completely agree that DGR is a bullshit organization. They really need to alter some of their methods and attitudes.

[TheRedAnarchist23]

Another "primitivist/anti-civ sympathizer" here, and I think that the environment is the most important issue on the agenda right now. I mean, at this point I'd choose environmentally friendly capitalism over environmentally destructive socialism; I simply don't think that the former is possible (probably not possible period, and certainly not possible under the current circumstances). From what I've read, though, I completely agree that DGR is a bullshit organization. They really need to alter some of their methods and attitudes.

Environmentaly friendly anarchy?

[zoot_allures]

Environmentaly friendly anarchy?
Not sure what your point is.

[TheRedAnarchist23]

Not sure what your point is.

Do not sacrifice your ideals for victory.

[cynicles]

I have a serious question, how does anarchoprimitivism differ from preclass/private property human society? Cause we had that before and ended up with what he have now. How do anarchoprimitivists' post capitalist vision structurally prevent class sosciety from reemerging?

[zoot_allures]

Do not sacrifice your ideals for victory.
I don't care much for ideals.