Revlefts Golden Age

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

Expanding upon the completely unnecessary turned existential threat that is the Avanti debate, when do you think revleft's glory age occurred, when do you think it ended, and why do you think it died? Is this the worst time to be a revleft user?

[ВАЛТЕР]

I think after "The Great Purge" we lost a lot of good posters. I'm not in a position to say whether or not the purge was justified or if those banned were indeed deserving of it, I'm just saying that was when I noticed the lack of content.

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Never happened, never will happen.

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

Never happened, never will happen.

Because the site was always shit (:lol:) or more likely because perfection is both subjective and impossible?

[ВАЛТЕР]

Probably because the more of one tendency there is, the more the others start declaring how shitty the posts are etc. However, I think all in all revleft is a spectacular place for someone new to leftist politics to learn. It isn't a substitute for actual political involvement, but I know for me at least it lead to my becoming more and more involved in political discussions and debates in the real world. So I am thankful to revleft for doing what it does best, which is educate people who are insecure about their beliefs and/or new to leftism in general.

Looking back, I regret some of the things I said to other users in the past, but I guess that is part of learning.

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

Tyftup

[Q]

Never happened, never will happen.

This.

There are some deep structural problems around and they're not likely to disappear anytime soon.

[Os Cangaceiros]

For me personally, it was probably back when the CC was still in existence. (For those of you who don't know, the CC was a subforum in which members voted on changes to the board.)

It wasn't so much the voting/administration that made it good, it was more the fact that the most interesting discussions happened there, and you could share photos etc. It just felt like more of a community.

Post-CC, I think that early 2011 was a pretty good period for the board.

[GoddessCleoLover]

When one looks back at things they always seem better than they really were. Golden ages are usually made of fools' gold. Looking to the future is more productive.

[Comrade Samuel]

It started when I got here. :cool:

I can't exactly say for certain but when looking through old threads membership seemed alot higher and the posts were far more thought provoking.

[A Revolutionary Tool]

Back when The Vegan Marxist was still active, Khad was in the PSL, when people(including me) thought the situation in Nepal was about to break out in revolution. Not saying those are the reasons why they were the Golden Age but I distinctly remember those names and things for some odd reason and remember immensely enjoying those times. I miss Redstar2000, Chegitz Guevara,and a couple of the Maoists that used to frequent here, even though I wasn't in agreement a lot of the time with what they said. Always thought provoking though. Especially miss that one Maoist from New Zealand for some reason and that guy that worked in the railroad industry for years.

[The Douche]

For me personally, it was probably back when the CC was still in existence. (For those of you who don't know, the CC was a subforum in which members voted on changes to the board.)

It wasn't so much the voting/administration that made it good, it was more the fact that the most interesting discussions happened there, and you could share photos etc. It just felt like more of a community.

Post-CC, I think that early 2011 was a pretty good period for the board.

I agree with you about the loss of the "community" feeling.

[Rafiq]

There isn't an objective golden age, different users have different experiences and usually this is in accordance with the development of their theoretical foundations. For me it was from spring of 2011 to the fall of the same year.

[maskerade]

I've always been going on and off on this forum, but when I joined it felt like a really exciting place...I had a lot of my beliefs questioned, there were lots of interesting discussions, some ridiculous posters that were both hilarious and terrifying.

I'm aware that there was no intentional 'great purge', but what event does it refer to?

[Bronco]

In the time I've been here I found it a most interesting place to be mid to late 2011, I do think the quality and activity on the site deterioration after all the bannings at the end of 2011/start of 2012/whenever it was but it's probably mainly due to the fact that I was a lot more interested in leftist politics and Marxist & Anarchist theory when I first joined, whereas I've not read any for months now

[GoddessCleoLover]

In the time I've been here I found it a most interesting place to be mid to late 2011, I do think the quality and activity on the site deterioration after all the bannings at the end of 2011/start of 2012/whenever it was but it's probably mainly due to the fact that I was a lot more interested in leftist politics and Marxist & Anarchist theory when I first joined, whereas I've not read any for months now

Back in 2011 there was an upsurge of pre-revolutionary activity in Greece and to a lesser extent in Spain, Portugal etcetera. There was also the Occupy movement, both in the USA and elsewhere which seemed to augur well for increased activism. IIRC the situation in Nepal was more hopeful then as well. Perhaps the fact that this tide has receded since 2011 has contributed both to Bronco's declining interest as well as to a certain diminishment on RevLeft as a whole?

[Devrim]

I agree with you about the loss of the "community" feeling.

Are you serious about this? The old CC system had all the 'community feeling' of the 'Lord of the Flies'. Admittedly the forum moderation now is even worse now than it was then. The sole advantage is that we don't have to see people tearing each other apart so much, as it is all done behind closed doors. Perhaps being a Mod you don't have this advantage. I don't know, but I wouldn't make the fact that it is appalling today trick you into any false nostalgia.


I think after "The Great Purge" we lost a lot of good posters. I'm not in a position to say whether or not the purge was justified or if those banned were indeed deserving of it, I'm just saying that was when I noticed the lack of content

The last purge cut quite a few good posters, some of whom I know personally. It wasn't anything knew though. RevLeft has run an system where in has fluctuated between making individual bans, and 'mass' purges since I have been here. Over the years it has purged lots of good posters.


Back when The Vegan Marxist was still active, Khad was in the PSL, when people(including me) thought the situation in Nepal was about to break out in revolution.

:laugh:

Devrim

[Ismail]

I don't think RevLeft ever had a "golden age," just an age where some people took RevLeft more seriously as a place for the revolutionary left than today.

Pages 6-9 of this demonstrate that if anything its posting standards were even lower years ago: http://www.somethingawful.com/d/weekend-web/teen-help-hoobastank.php?page=6 ("Che Lives" was the old name for RevLeft, it's the same forum)

[GoddessCleoLover]

I don't think RevLeft ever had a "golden age," just an age where some people took RevLeft more seriously as a place for the revolutionary left than today.

Pages 6-9 of this demonstrate that if anything its posting standards were even lower years ago: http://www.somethingawful.com/d/weekend-web/teen-help-hoobastank.php?page=6 ("Che Lives" was the old name for RevLeft, it's the same forum)

Thanks to Ismail for the link. Seems like the Golden Age of Che Lives contained a fair amount of fools gold.

[The Douche]

Are you serious about this? The old CC system had all the 'community feeling' of the 'Lord of the Flies'. Admittedly the forum moderation now is even worse now than it was then. The sole advantage is that we don't have to see people tearing each other apart so much, as it is all done behind closed doors. Perhaps being a Mod you don't have this advantage. I don't know, but I wouldn't make the fact that it is appalling today trick you into any false nostalgia.


I, like Os, was not thinking of when the CC functioned in an administrative role, but that it provided a place where people got to know each other better on a personal level. Being able to see pictures of the people you argue with all the time, and learning their name and other things that helped make this place full of actual people, and not just usernames and avatars.

And the mods and admins rarely go at each other. Sometimes, but not often, the general membership is far more mean to each other than the staff are.

[BOZG]

To be honest, it's a bit of a silly question partly because there is actually no one left on these boards who was here in the beginning with the exception of Edelweiss or whatever he is called now. How many remember when the CC was how The Douche described it, a private forum to talk to other members. I'd say very very few. Who remembers the first proposal to have an elected BA? Who remembers the original Commiebot when 20 or 30 people would be in LiveChat? How can people talk about a golden age when they weren't here for a third or a half of the boards existence?

On a subject level, the board's golden age is subjective to everyone - not just in terms of when were the best arguments but also what role this forum played in people's lives at a given time. I loved this forum once and it holds a lot of memories and I'm very nostalgic about it. It's the reason I'm still around. I began investigating my ideas here, learning things, learning to argue but also having fun. That was my golden age. Maybe the standard of debate is higher today but I'm not interested in debating people from the comfort of their armchairs or of debating other lefts for the sake of it anymore. It doesn't hold the same magic that it once did. And I would guess that most people here will go through similar changes in their attitudes because so many have only the forum to debate and discuss because they're young or living in isolated areas.

But if you want a more objective opinion in terms of debate, I'd give a lot of weight to the opinions of people like Devrim - people who are confident in their ideas, who were probably a lot more developed and steadfast in their ideas than most who have come here and can judge things a bit more independently.

[Sasha]

I miss Redstar2000
uhmm, not to nitpick but how can you miss rsk2000 if i myself cant even remember him posting... looking at my join date he was already or almost gone from the board two years before you joined...

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

uhmm, not to nitpick but how can you miss rsk2000 if i myself cant even remember him posting... looking at my join date he was already or almost gone from the board two years before you joined...

Oh shit he outed himself as a sockpuppet.:crying::lol:

[A Revolutionary Tool]

:laugh:

Devrim
Right, when I think back I think the same thing.

And I lurked around Revleft a good two years before ever actually joining. Kind of lame right but Revleft was intimidating as hell to me when I first got into leftist politics.

[GoddessCleoLover]

Not lame. Actually it is a reasonable way to proceed. Get the lay of the land before jumping into the fray.

[A Revolutionary Tool]

My mistake too, it wasn't redstar2000, it was Zanthora or Led Zepplin that I miss(can't remember really, I suck with names). And I really don't even have a clue why I miss whichever one it was but I do.

[Devrim]

But if you want a more objective opinion in terms of debate, I'd give a lot of weight to the opinions of people like Devrim - people who are confident in their ideas, who were probably a lot more developed and steadfast in their ideas than most who have come here and can judge things a bit more independently.

Thank you very much, that is a very nice way of saying 'old'. ;)

Devrim

[Devrim]

Right, when I think back I think the same thing.

And I lurked around Revleft a good two years before ever actually joining. Kind of lame right but Revleft was intimidating as hell to me when I first got into leftist politics.

Actually I am sorry for laughing. It wasn't a nice thing to do. I think that there were a lot of very sincere people on here who promoted the Maoist stuff in Nepal. Probably experience helps a lot when looking at these things.

Devrim

[BOZG]

Thank you very much, that is a very nice way of saying 'old'. ;)

Devrim

I had thought of adding old in parentheses but I know your intelligent enough to read between the lines. ;)

However, that age and confidence often coincide can't be blamed on me!

[Raúl Duke]

It will be silly to talk in terms of a singular golden age. Better to speak in terms of the multiple "up-down" periods this forum has had.

I remember when live chat used to lively (and had commiebot), the CC allowed people to post pictures of themselves if they wanted to, and such. Those were good days generally (although even in the CC era there was some bad time periods) but I assume one thing that bias my view is that I was fairly new at that time and thus I had a lot to learn so the board was interesting to me in its informational value: chit-chat, live chat, CC stuff were only just small bonuses that made the whole thing somewhat enjoyable I guess.

After the CC was done with, there was a period where things were actually a bit better than the late CC times but it was quite short-lived and thus most of the time post-CC I found this board quite boring; also for like a year or so I wasn't active much on here until Occupy came around (I guess when Occupy was happening it was interesting because I got the left's multiple perspective on it and such, I returned to the forum more actively around that time).

[BOZG]

I remember when live chat used to lively (and had commiebot), the CC allowed people to post pictures of themselves if they wanted to, and such. Those were good days generally (although even in the CC era there was some bad time periods) but I assume one thing that bias my view is that I was fairly new at that time and thus I had a lot to learn so the board was interesting to me in its informational value: chit-chat, live chat, CC stuff were only just small bonuses that made the whole thing somewhat enjoyable I guess.


Pfft, that was commiebot v2.0, the shitty version.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

It will be silly to talk in terms of a singular golden age. Better to speak in terms of the multiple "up-down" periods this forum has had.

I remember when live chat used to lively (and had commiebot), the CC allowed people to post pictures of themselves if they wanted to, and such. Those were good days generally (although even in the CC era there was some bad time periods) but I assume one thing that bias my view is that I was fairly new at that time and thus I had a lot to learn so the board was interesting to me in its informational value: chit-chat, live chat, CC stuff were only just small bonuses that made the whole thing somewhat enjoyable I guess.

After the CC was done with, there was a period where things were actually a bit better than the late CC times but it was quite short-lived and thus most of the time post-CC I found this board quite boring; also for like a year or so I wasn't active much on here until Occupy came around (I guess when Occupy was happening it was interesting because I got the left's multiple perspective on it and such, I returned to the forum more actively around that time).

Having been here for near on nine years, I'd largely agree with this.

I'd also add that it was thanks to the community atmosphere that I was able to get in touch with some real-life leftists, at least two of which I'm still in regular contact with today. I think the improvements from the days of Che-Lives are down to the benefits of an evolving board "culture", that is, the prevailing attitudes and experiences of board members, rather than the abolition of the CC.

[TheRedAnarchist23]

There isn't an objective golden age, different users have different experiences and usually this is in accordance with the development of their theoretical foundations. For me it was from spring of 2011 to the fall of the same year.

You are the kind of guy who would read a beautiful poem and in the end your reaction would be "This does not contain class analysis!".

[∞]

Yeah back in the Boom-Bap era.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

I joined like very soon after the CC dissolved, I think. Or may just before, and was a total newbie when it did. I dunno.

I quite like that we only have usernames and avatars because, aside from when annoying fools change their names and don't put their old names in their sigs, it means the focus isn't on personalities but on posts.

Whilst it's fun to chat to people and get to know a couple of people and their IRL identities in a fraternal sort of way, I actually derive most pleasure from a good honest debate that doesn't take into account the poster i'm debating against and their biases. And there have, over the years, been a fair few really good posters who i've learnt a lot about. This sort of thing has really helped me to mature in my views and has influenced positively my studies IRL - i'm now in a position where i'm confident enough to posit my dissertation question from a Marxist perspective, despite how unpopular it is to do so in my field and in my department.

[black magick hustla]

dang i am somewhat of a veteran. i sometimes forget

[Jack]

Any time this place gets good there's another purge.

[Kotze]

What Q and Ismail said.


The last purge cut quite a few good posterslol (http://www.revleft.com/vb/showpost.php?p=2130776&postcount=61)

[Yet_Another_Boring_Marxist]

Maybe we can have one now that Avanti and the OP are gone

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

You are the kind of guy who would read a beautiful poem and in the end your reaction would be "This does not contain class analysis!".

Beautiful for what class though?

[Lord Daedra]

Beautiful for what class though?

WTF is this guy serious?

[BOZG]

WTF is this guy serious?

Facepalm

[bcbm]

it was a lot better when i was less of a cynical bastard

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

WTF is this guy serious?

Yes. At least, serious for the proletariat. The bourgeoisie see it as joking.

[Lord Daedra]

Yes. At least, serious for the proletariat. The bourgeoisie see it as joking.

Proceeds to laugh at stupidity.

[BOZG]

it was a lot better when i was less of a cynical bastard

Weren't you always?

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Proceeds to laugh at stupidity.

Stupidity for what class...?

[Lord Daedra]

stupidity for what class...?

hhahhhahahahahaahahahahahahah

(all classes)

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

hhahhhahahahahaahahahahahahah

(all classes)

You're an idiot...

[Lord Daedra]

You're an idiot...

In the viewpoint of what class?:laugh:

[Rusty Shackleford]

Before that "Great Purge*" happened, if you could call it a "golden age". Shit, i remember getting along with most people, and then there were all the bans, my name popped up in a refugee forum which i began posting in for a while to basically ice the fucker who took my name and posted as me. then that all died out when it turned into something that was really only catering to left-coms (most of which i generally liked, though i was not a left-com) so i came back with a sort o metallic taste in my mouth and began posting here again.

i dont even think i care to try to raise the quality of discussion here sometimes. i rarely try anyways because i feel im always learning and am not really in the position to take on major theoretical issues. its a nice online community though, sometimes.

The issue of Libya kind of fucked things up a lot. Same with the situation in Greece(the only time i ever got an infraction, for something that wasnt even worth it).

Ive only been here for almost 4 years though, so im not a long timer.

*if that is what it will be remembered as.


I mean was not posting for the entirety of Avanti's existence apparently, see one of their posts and would have hated the shit out of them anyways. but then again, its as if this place is about shitstorm after shitstorm.

http://www.architizer.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/1-supermarket-in-Pripyat.jpg

[Il Medico]

There's probably no such thing, revleft has highs and lows. However, for me, it was my first year. I was a stupid bastard and said a lot of stupid fucking things when I first joined. Most of those things probably would've earned me the ban hammer nowadays, but back then people actually took the time to try to make me less of an idiot. Plus back then there seemed to be a real sense of community that just doesn't exist anymore, for me at least.

That all ended pretty much when the CC was shut down. I had only been in the CC for a few months before major drama erupted (If I remember correctly it was over BobK's demodding). The shitstorm was pretty much limited to the CC and actually seemed to be winding down... and then the admins shut down the CC and the dramapocalypse spewed forth unto the main boards. Since then revleft seems to just have long stints of mediocrity in between shitstorms.

[ellipsis]

My tenure. But seriously, I think the cc-days were pretty good. Lots of purges since then, lost some good users in the process. Also we are rid of plenty of tripe.

[Sentinel]

I too tend to feel nostalgic about the times when I started posting - when I first got into the CC, got my first modship (Sciences & Environment - anyone who still remembers?), first became an admin, and so on. However, most of it is just that - nostalgia, and I guess we all are new just once, and new things just feel more awesome.

I'd say this is the best age on revleft so far. Compared with the past we have a really good, comradely atmosphere amongst the veteran userbase and the BA team. We've been able to reintroduce user participation in the form of granting committed users the ability to nominate mods, and this has received a really positive response and worked very smoothly.

Gone are the CC days of the bitter tendency wars and personal grudges/conflicts obstructing administrative procedure. Time makes memories golden, but as Devrim recently said in this or some other thread, it really was like straight out of 'Lord of Flies'.

Sure, some good people have been banned since those days, but with the new ban review policy, not even that is necessarily permanent. Moreover, my own politics and life as an activist have developed alot since back in the days, and I guess this makes me enjoy this place even more.

[Tifosi]

I liked it when I joined... so many good posters seem to have gone since then. Bilan, Nothing Human is Alien, Pogue, Plagueround etc to name a few :( .

But now there is less tedious Stalin vs Trotsky threads which is a big plus.

[Grigori]

The site I see today lacks conflict, which when it is caused by those of differing beliefs spurrs creativity and concerted attempts at debate. This makes people complacent and eventually causes them to become unable to defend their views when confronted with hostility (try a normal forum like politicsforum.org that has a sizable population of various creeds who for the most part try reasoning not completely connected to referrencing their political saint and you'll quickly find yourself realizing how soft you've become.)

[Os Cangaceiros]

The site I see today lacks conflict, which when it is caused by those of differing beliefs spurrs creativity and concerted attempts at debate. This makes people complacent and eventually causes them to become unable to defend their views when confronted with hostility (try a normal forum like politicsforum.org that has a sizable population of various creeds who for the most part try reasoning not completely connected to referrencing their political saint and you'll quickly find yourself realizing how soft you've become.)

This site lacks conflict? Seriously? :blink:

[Manic Impressive]

But now there is less tedious Stalin vs Trotsky threads which is a big plus.
You know what I kind of miss them a bit. As strange as that is. They did get very boring after a while but still could do with more decent trot vs stalinist fights nowadays

[Ostrinski]

You know what I kind of miss them a bit. As strange as that is. They did get very boring after a while but still could do with more decent trot vs stalinist fights nowadaysYour golden age must have been before daft punk was banned :D.

[Manic Impressive]

oh I'm talking about way before he joined. At one time Trots and Stalinists were by far the majority and there used to be at least 3 epic sized threads on Trotsky vs Stalin per month. In my unique position of opposing both I was able to rep whore like a muthafucker switching between threads dissing trots in one and stalinists in the other.

I wouldn't have called it a golden age by a long way. It was still awful just in a different way than it is now.

Also even though daft punk's politics disgusted me in many ways I don't think he should have been banned. He added something different and I like diversity.

[Ostrinski]

daft punk was like the ultimate CWI party patriot. I remember rejoicing when he was banned but now I kinda miss laughing at his posts

[BOZG]

daft punk was like the ultimate CWI party patriot. I remember rejoicing when he was banned but now I kinda miss laughing at his posts

What an embarassment.

[Os Cangaceiros]

I remember daft punk being one of the few people on this board to defend the "degenerated worker's state" theory of Stalin's tenure.

[Thirsty Crow]

There was no golden age, at least for me.
But frankly, the boards lost something when Rosa Lichtenstein was banned, and in the latest round of purges. Yeah, I said it, Rosa. I understand why someone who is very often on the verge of flaming might be banned, but I still think that this was a result of a juvenile butthurt stemming from, not least, her persistence and rigorous way of debate and reasoning.

[The Feral Underclass]

To answer the OP question: Between the years of my reign as Uber Admin.

It was much like the story of the Roman Empire.

[The Feral Underclass]

it was a lot better when i was less of a cynical bastard

Western privilege.

[The Feral Underclass]

I think the improvements from the days of Che-Lives are down to the benefits of an evolving board "culture", that is, the prevailing attitudes and experiences of board members, rather than the abolition of the CC.

The improvements from the days of Che-Lives are down to endless, painstaking and mundane discussion on every facet of board administration.

CC was fun though. Awkward.

[Manic Impressive]

There was no golden age, at least for me.
But frankly, the boards lost something when Rosa Lichtenstein was banned, and in the latest round of purges. Yeah, I said it, Rosa. I understand why someone who is very often on the verge of flaming might be banned, but I still think that this was a result of a juvenile butthurt stemming from, not least, her persistence and rigorous way of debate and reasoning.
Since they're letting back all the past reprobates perhaps we can petition them to let Rosa back.

[The Feral Underclass]

Since they're letting back all the past reprobates perhaps we can petition them to let Rosa back.

I really hope you're talking about me...Whoever you are.

[LeonJWilliams]

Back when 'Edward Norton' posted, can't remember when that was, maybe 10 years ago now. Was a good time.

[LeonJWilliams]

To answer the OP question: Between the years of my reign as Uber Admin.

It was much like the story of the Roman Empire.

You mean being a c**k and pissing everyone off?

[Thirsty Crow]

Since they're letting back all the past reprobates perhaps we can petition them to let Rosa back.
That's actually a good idea.

[The Feral Underclass]

You mean being a c**k and pissing everyone off?

How would you know anything about that. You only became a member in November 2012?

[Ostrinski]

I remember daft punk being one of the few people on this board to defend the "degenerated worker's state" theory of Stalin's tenure.There's quite a few of those actually (and unfortunately).

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

Putting aside the cockerel purge that occurred I believe Revleft's Golden Age started right around April of last year.

[Art Vandelay]

Back when 'Edward Norton' posted, can't remember when that was, maybe 10 years ago now. Was a good time.

So you've just outed yourself as a sock then?

[LeonJWilliams]

So you've just outed yourself as a sock then?

I'm not really sure what a 'sock' is. I was a member of RevLeft before if that's what you mean? on and off actually since I was 16 (nearly 13 years ago).

'Edward Norton' was a very good poster (he is not me) unfortunately he stopped posting on RevLeft and generally gave up on politics.

[Ele'ill]

lol

[Os Cangaceiros]

There's quite a few of those actually (and unfortunately).

It's always seemed to me that this board usually split more along the lines of "USSR-as-state-capitalism" vs "USSR-as-socialism-building-towards-communism" (with a few proponents of "USSR-as-non-society" thrown in, maybe). It doesn't seem like I see the classic Trotsky position much...

[The Feral Underclass]

I'm not really sure what a 'sock' is. I was a member of RevLeft before if that's what you mean? on and off actually since I was 16 (nearly 13 years ago).

'Edward Norton' was a very good poster (he is not me) unfortunately he stopped posting on RevLeft and generally gave up on politics.

Why aren't you using your original account?

[Popular Front of Judea]

So what does it take to avoid joining the purged of Revleft? Is it a matter of simply playing well with others? Or is it more than that? (Please, please don't say "avoid sarcasm"...)

[Ostrinski]

Be a responsible poster, don't start drama, don't take part in drama, follow board rules. That should narrow your chances of being "purged" pretty slimly.

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

So what does it take to avoid joining the purged of Revleft? Is it a matter of simply playing well with others? Or is it more than that? (Please, please don't say "avoid sarcasm"...)

avoid sarcasm

[Grigori]

Also avoid futurism and never ever piss off a mod

[black magick hustla]

I agree with you about the loss of the "community" feeling.

its funny though cuz i think some of the "community" aspect simply got exported into informal groupings in fb. i basically have almost everyone i like on fb and i chat with a lot of them frequently and met a few of them irl

[LeonJWilliams]

Why aren't you using your original account?

Mostly because of passwords, every time I go to log on I need a new password and the cycle never ends! I got so damn frustrated I just set up a new account and no problems (other than it taking almost a month to get on but BOZG helped sort it out).

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Also avoid futurism and never ever piss off a mod

What do you mean by "futurism"? I'm a pretty future-y kind of person yet I'm still here.

[Mala Tha Testa]

I dont think that I ever experienced a "Golden Age" on RevLeft. I stopped visiting the site religiously a couple years ago and I only come back once in a while to check out Chit Chat and see who's still active and junk. So I can't really speak for the entirety of my membership. That being said, maybe I shouldn't be here at all.

[Sand Castle]

2007 was a good year. I was here pretty frequently then, though I never was a big forum poster anywhere. Back then it seemed like it was impossible to get banned here because everyone was always ripping each other a new one over every little thing. And Chit Chat was wwwaaayyy more ridiculous. Every time I posted I was afraid someone would tear into me, or each other. Some stupid argument. I think some things said to me could be perceived as insults. Some I deserved, most I didn't deserve. It was being afraid of a nasty fight breaking out every time I asked a question that lead me to neglect Revleft.

[Zanthorus]

So what does it take to avoid joining the purged of Revleft? Is it a matter of simply playing well with others?

Stop posting and leave the board before they have a chance to purge you. Otherwise, no sense in fighting the inevitable. It's not so bad, trust me, I've been there before.

[CyM]

It ended when I tried to close chit-chat ;) Also, please don't bring back rosa.

[Le Libérer]

It ended when I tried to close chit-chat ;)
He said in chit-chat.

[Art Vandelay]

Why on earth did you want to get rid of chit chat.

[BOZG]

Why on earth did you want to get rid of chit chat.

So that only serious posters would be interested in coming here.

[Flying Purple People Eater]

So that only serious posters would be interested in coming here.

Serious about what, monsieur texter testes?

[CyM]

Why on earth did you want to get rid of chit chat.
There were threads around fifty pages long of sexy actresses. People were posting what was more or less pornography. If I had a chance to go back in time, I wouldn't close it, but it seemed like the right thing at the time.

I was also going through my dad's cancer and wasn't thinking very clearly.

[CyM]

He said in chit-chat.

:)

[Art Vandelay]

There were threads around fifty pages long of sexy actresses. People were posting what was more or less pornography. If I had a chance to go back in time, I wouldn't close it, but it seemed like the right thing at the time.

I was also going through my dad's cancer and wasn't thinking very clearly.

It sounds like chit chat was different back in the day, then the chit chat that I know; if you are accurately describing it, then I wouldn't blame you.

[BOZG]

It sounds like chit chat was different back in the day, then the chit chat that I know; if you are accurately describing it, then I wouldn't blame you.

It was bad but one of the big issues is that it was becoming the centre of the board. There were people who had never posted outside of Chit Chat etc

[Crux]

That's actually a good idea.
NO. I might agree with Rosa on some things and even think she is quite reasoned and insightful at times but....she was banned for very valid reasons, I believe. A scratched record. You'll no doubt be completely unsuprised that Rosa knows the *real* reason behind the present crisis in the SWP. No, no nothing to do with sexism, rapeculture or internal democracy. Why, the real culprit is Dialectical materialism of course.

[Sentinel]

You'll no doubt be completely unsuprised that Rosa knows the *real* reason behind the present crisis in the SWP. No, no nothing to do with sexism, rapeculture or internal democracy. Why, the real culprit is Dialectical materialism of course.

Jesus christ.

[CyM]

That sounds a lot like Rosa.

And by the way, I took a quick look through chit chat, and it is very different now. Seems the admins really changed this place up. And BOZG is right, it was becoming the center of attention at the time.

[Le Libérer]

We made it invisible to those who are unregistered so at first glance, people werent signing up to come troll. Unless they are forewarned somewhere, its a surprise it exists after joining. Another growing pain we encountered over the years.

[CyM]

We made it invisible to those who are unregistered so at first glance, people werent signing up to come troll. Unless they are forewarned somewhere, its a surprise it exists after joining. Another growing pain we encountered over the years.
You guys have done well, place seems clean, theory seems more in depth, trolling seems to be gone. Love it.

EDIT: Although it seems to not be invisible. I could see it before I logged in, but it said "private" and I couldn't access it. Still great though :p

[Le Libérer]

You guys have done well, place seems clean, theory seems more in depth, trolling seems to be gone. Love it.

EDIT: Although it seems to not be invisible. I could see it before I logged in, but it said "private" and I couldn't access it. Still great though :p

Thank you CyM, that means a lot to me coming from you. In the early days, you were one of those people I looked up to as a newbie, you, TAT, and Dhul Figar, to whom I still talk to a lot, hes just too busy to come back and participate. He has done very well for himself professionally and still has kept his ideals. Mucho respect!