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Althusser
6th December 2012, 03:04
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1221064/Oppressive-grey-No-growing-communism-happiest-time-life.html


Oppressive and grey? No, growing up under communism was the happiest time of my life

By ZSUZSANNA CLARK

When people ask me what it was like growing up behind the Iron Curtain in Hungary in the Seventies and Eighties, most expect to hear tales of secret police, bread queues and other nasty manifestations of life in a one-party state.

They are invariably disappointed when I explain that the reality was quite different, and communist Hungary, far from being hell on earth, was in fact, rather a fun place to live.

The communists provided everyone with guaranteed employment, good education and free healthcare. Violent crime was virtually non-existent.

But perhaps the best thing of all was the overriding sense of camaraderie, a spirit lacking in my adopted Britain and, indeed, whenever I go back to Hungary today. People trusted one another, and what we had we shared.
I was born into a working-class family in Esztergom, a town in the north of Hungary, in 1968. My mother, Julianna, came from the east of the country, the poorest part. Born in 1939, she had a harsh childhood.

She left school aged 11 and went straight to work in the fields. She remembers having to get up at 4am to walk five miles to buy a loaf of bread. As a child, she was so hungry she often waited next to the hen for it to lay an egg. She would then crack it open and swallow the yolk and the white raw.

It was discontent with these conditions of the early years of communism that led to the Hungarian uprising in 1956.

The shock waves brought home to the communist leadership that they could consolidate their position only by making our lives more tolerable. Stalinism was out and 'goulash communism' - a unique brand of liberal communism - was in.

Janos Kadar, the country's new leader, transformed Hungary into the 'happiest barracks' in Eastern Europe. We probably had more freedoms than in any other communist country.

One of the best things was the way leisure and holiday opportunities were opened up to all. Before the Second World War, holidays were reserved for the upper and middle classes. In the immediate post-war years too, most Hungarians were working so hard rebuilding the country that holidays were out of the question.

In the Sixties though, as in many other aspects of life, things changed for the better. By the end of the decade, almost everyone could afford to go away, thanks to the network of subsidised trade-union, company and co-operative holiday centres.

My parents worked in Dorog, a nearby town, for Hungaroton, a state-owned record company, so we stayed at the factory's holiday camp at Lake Balaton, 'The Hungarian Sea'.

The camp was similar to the sort of holiday camps in vogue in Britain at the same time, the only difference being that guests had to make their own entertainment in the evenings - there were no Butlins-style Redcoats.
Some of my earliest memories of living at home are of the animals my parents kept on their smallholding. Rearing animals was something most people did, as well as growing vegetables. Outside Budapest and the big towns, we were a nation of Tom and Barbara Goods.

My parents had about 50 chickens, pigs, rabbits, ducks, pigeons and geese. We kept the animals not just to feed our family but also to sell meat to our friends. We used the goose feathers to make pillows and duvets.

Star pupil: Zsuzsanna aged seven at elementary school in Hungary
The government understood the value of education and culture. Before the advent of communism, opportunities for the children of the peasantry and urban working class, such as me, to rise up the educational ladder were limited. All that changed after the war.

The school system in Hungary was similar to that which existed in Britain at the time. Secondary education was divided into grammar schools, specialised secondary schools, and vocational schools. The main differences were that we stayed in our elementary school until the age of 14, not 11.
There were also evening schools, for children and adults. My parents, who had both left school young, took classes in mathematics, history and Hungarian literature and grammar.

I loved my schooldays, and in particular my membership of the Pioneers - a movement common to all communist countries.

Many in the West believed it was a crude attempt to indoctrinate the young with communist ideology, but being a Pioneer taught us valuable life skills such as building friendships and the importance of working for the benefit of the community. 'Together for each other' was our slogan, and that was how we were encouraged to think.

As a Pioneer, if you performed well in your studies, communal work and school competitions, you were rewarded with a trip to a summer camp. I went every year because I took part in almost all the school activities: competitions, gymnastics, athletics, choir, shooting, literature and library work.
On our last night at Pioneer camp we sang songs around the bonfire, such as the Pioneer anthem: 'Mint a mokus fenn a fan, az uttoro oly vidam' ('We are as happy as a squirrel on a tree'), and other traditional songs. Our feelings were always mixed: sad at the prospect of leaving, but happy at the thought of seeing our families again.

Today, even those who do not consider themselves communists look back at their days in the Pioneers with great affection.

Hungarian schools did not follow the so-called 'progressive' ideas on education prevalent in the West at the time. Academic standards were extremely high and discipline was strict.

My favourite teacher taught us that without mastery of Hungarian grammar we would lack confidence to articulate our thoughts and feelings. We could make only one mistake if we wanted to attain the highest grade.
Unlike Britain, there were 'viva voce' exams in Hungary in every subject. In literature, for example, set texts had to be memorised and recited and then the student would have to answer questions put to them orally by the teacher.

Whenever we had a national celebration, I was among those asked to recite a poem or verse in front of the whole school. Culture was regarded as extremely important by the government. The communists did not want to restrict the finer things of life to the upper and middle classes - the very best of music, literature and dance were for all to enjoy.

This meant lavish subsidies were given to institutions including orchestras, opera houses, theatres and cinemas. Ticket prices were subsidised by the State, making visits to the opera and theatre affordable.

'Cultural houses' were opened in every town and village, so provincial, working-class people such as my parents could have easy access to the performing arts, and to the best performers.

Programming on Hungarian television reflected the regime's priority to bring culture to the masses, with no dumbing down.

When I was a teenager, Saturday night primetime viewing typically meant a Jules Verne adventure, a poetry recital, a variety show, a live theatre performance, or an easy Bud Spencer film.

Much of Hungarian television was home-produced, but quality programmes were imported, not just from other Eastern Bloc countries but from the West, too.

Hungarians in the early Seventies followed the trials and tribulations of Soames Forsyte in The Forsyte Saga just as avidly as British viewers had done a few years earlier. The Onedin Line was another popular BBC series I enjoyed watching, along with David Attenborough documentaries.
However, the government was alive to the danger of us turning into a nation of four-eyed couch potatoes.

Every Monday was 'family night', when State television was taken off the air to encourage families to do other things together. Others called it 'family planning night', and I am sure the figures showing the proportion of children conceived on Monday nights under communism would make interesting reading.

Although we lived well under 'goulash communism' and there was always enough food for us to eat, we were not bombarded with advertising for products we didn't need.

Throughout my youth, I wore hand-me-down clothes, as most young people did. My school bag was from the factory where my parents worked. What a difference to today's Hungary, where children are bullied, as they are in Britain, for wearing the 'wrong' brand of trainers.

Like most people in the communist era, my father was not money-obsessed.
As a mechanic he made a point of charging people fairly. He once saw a broken-down car with an open bonnet - a sight that always lifted his heart. It belonged to a West German tourist.

My father fixed the car but refused payment - even a bottle of beer. For him it was unnatural that anyone would think of accepting money for helping someone in distress.

When communism in Hungary ended in 1989, I was not only surprised, but saddened, as were many others. Yes, there were people marching against the government, but the majority of ordinary people - me and my family included - did not take part in the protests.

Our voice - the voice of those whose lives were improved by communism - is seldom heard when it comes to discussions of what life was like behind the Iron Curtain.

Instead, the accounts we hear in the West are nearly always from the perspectives of wealthy emigrés or anti-communist dissidents with an axe to grind.

Communism in Hungary had its downside. While trips to other socialist countries were unrestricted, travel to the West was problematic and allowed only every second year. Few Hungarians (myself included) enjoyed the compulsory Russian lessons.

There were petty restrictions and needless layers of bureaucracy and freedom to criticise the government was limited. Yet despite this, I believe that, taken as a whole, the positives outweighed the negatives.

Twenty years on, most of these positive achievements have been destroyed.
People no longer have job security. Poverty and crime is on the increase. Working-class people can no longer afford to go to the opera or theatre. As in Britain, TV has dumbed down to a worrying degree - ironically, we never had Big Brother under communism, but we have it today.

Most sadly of all, the spirit of camaraderie that we once enjoyed has all but disappeared. In the past two decades we may have gained shopping malls, multi-party ' democracy', mobile phones and the internet. But we have lost a whole lot more.

Ostrinski
6th December 2012, 08:16
Interesting account.

hetz
6th December 2012, 08:25
You can apply that to pretty much every "Block" country, except perhaps Poland and Romania.

Hungary was known as "the happiest barracks" and their "gulash communism" allowed for some more freedoms compared to other countries.

GoddessCleoLover
6th December 2012, 20:48
In East Germany there is a fair amount of "ost-algia" too. In the Czech Republic the Communists still have a mass electoral base. Only time will tell whether this will amount to anything significant.:confused:

Rafiq
7th December 2012, 00:25
Yet the great and prosperous Hungary wasn't even capable of sustaining itself.

Yet_Another_Boring_Marxist
7th December 2012, 00:29
I know I'll get hounded by my Anti-Revisionist comrades for this, but I always had a soft spot for the 1956 uprising.

As this Hungarian knows, it is the masses that make history. The only way to create a good standard of living is to fight for it, and the only way to create socialism is to win that fight

hetz
7th December 2012, 01:36
Yet the great and prosperous Hungary wasn't even capable of sustaining itself.
What are you talking about?

GoddessCleoLover
7th December 2012, 01:57
I know I'll get hounded by my Anti-Revisionist comrades for this, but I always had a soft spot for the 1956 uprising.

As this Hungarian knows, it is the masses that make history. The only way to create a good standard of living is to fight for it, and the only way to create socialism is to win that fight

If your Anti-Revisionist comrades would hound you it would only be because it is required by The Dogma. The 1956 Hungarian uprising was provoked by the awful policies set forth by Matyas Rakosi, one of the worst of a bad lot of "little Stalins". IMO the only reason that the Soviets allowed "goulash Communism" was in hopes of placating the Hungarian masses and preventing a second uprising. Whatever the defects of "goulash Communism" at least it provided a better standard of living than Rakosi Communism.

Rafiq
8th December 2012, 23:51
What are you talking about?

I'm talking about the fact that the women who wrote the article is incapable of providing a viable explanation for the fall of Communist states in the 20th century. If the all glorious, prosperous socialist Hungary was so functional, why could it not sustain itself? There are those who will blame foreign imperialism. If this is true, why was Hungary incapable of repelling said siege? Why was Hungary's mode of production so impotent in this regards? Adhering to the nostalgic stories of people who grew up in Communist countries does nothing for us as Marxists. On the contrary, it weakens our understanding of 20th century communism and attempts to succumb us to said rhetoric, to the point where we are not taken seriously on any level. Why? Because it isn't so much to say that 20th century Communist countries were shit holes, and this is a universally understood fact. The more we attempt to argue otherwise, the more we render ourselves even more irrelevant than we already are, the more we are compelled to abandon Communism today, in the 21st century and instead look back into the shining past. The more we deny our own failure as Communists we take a step closer to our permanent disinigration.

l'Enfermé
9th December 2012, 00:01
What Rafiq said. If these 20th century "communist" countries were so fucking great, then why did the tens of millions of Party members in them(the USSR had 20 members by the late 80s alone) barely raise a finger to defend them when they were being dismantled? Why did the people of these communist countries offer such a feeble resistance to the restoration of bourgeois society?

Things were shit back then. Now, almost everywhere, they are even more shit. But it's like opposing the abolition of slavery because after slavery is abolished, slaves won't be able to find jobs, housing, etc, and will be even more miserable than before(which is actually an argument the slaving class of Southern US used - "We own these blacks, they are our lifeline, thus it is in our interests to maintain these blacks, feed them, clothe them and keep them relatively content, while if they are freed, no one would have an interesting in maintaining their life" etc, etc),

Avanti
10th December 2012, 10:23
this just shows

that east bloc communism

was really

socialism

trying to win over

capitalism

in being

a better capitalism

preserving bourgeois

patriarchal

social conditions

socialism = raising a statue of stalin

communism = drawing a dick on stalin

Yuppie Grinder
10th December 2012, 10:44
Stalinism nostalgia is reactionary and gross and I don't see why anybody on here should see it in a positive light.

Yuppie Grinder
10th December 2012, 10:50
socialism = raising a statue of stalin

communism = drawing a dick on stalin

So you like communism but not socialism? That doesn't make much sense to me dude.

Avanti
10th December 2012, 11:31
So you like communism but not socialism? That doesn't make much sense to me dude.

i like

drawing dicks

on stalin's head

like antennae

l'Enfermé
10th December 2012, 13:24
i like

drawings vaginas

on lenin's head

hetz
10th December 2012, 13:31
Things were shit back then. Now, almost everywhere, they are even more shit. But it's like opposing the abolition of slavery because after slavery is abolished, slaves won't be able to find jobs, housing, etc, and will be even more miserable than before(which is actually an argument the slaving class of Southern US used - "We own these blacks, they are our lifeline, thus it is in our interests to maintain these blacks, feed them, clothe them and keep them relatively content, while if they are freed, no one would have an interesting in maintaining their life" etc, etc),
Abolishing slavery was a progressive trend, capitalism forced the abolition of slavery and turning slaves into wage-laborers and so on. It was a step forward in any case.

Did the collapse of "People's Democracies" / USSR mean that the worker's movement had the opportunity to become stronger and more relevant? Was it a positive thing in regards to a revolution in Europe? Was it a step forward or a step backwards for communists?

Avanti
10th December 2012, 13:34
Abolishing slavery was a progressive trend, capitalism forced the abolition of slavery and turning slaves into wage-laborers and so on. It was a step forward in any case.

Did the collapse of "People's Democracies" / USSR mean that the worker's movement had the opportunity to become stronger and more relevant? Was it a positive thing in regards to a revolution in Europe? Was it a step forward or a step backwards for communists?

all steps in time

leads forward

that's why

it isn't

1984

Trap Queen Voxxy
11th December 2012, 02:42
i like

drawings vaginas

on lenin's head

I like drawing Trotskies.

We should all collaborate and have Stalin's forehead dick insert itself into Lenin's head vagina, burst a load of class consciousness so it can gestate and ferment and birth a Trotsky.

GoddessCleoLover
11th December 2012, 02:44
Just like Athena burst forth from the head of Zeus?:D

If Stalin donates the sperm isn't it highly unlikely that Trotsky would be the progeny?

Yuppie Grinder
11th December 2012, 02:59
I'd like to do an erotic art piece using the real life mummified corpses of Lenin and Vlad the Imapler.

Os Cangaceiros
11th December 2012, 03:07
Some of the stuff in that account (like the lament over the state of popular culture in today's era compared to back then) is pretty lame.

prolcon
11th December 2012, 03:10
Reactionary or not, and I'm skeptical young Westerners have the authority to make such a determination in this case, it seems like many, many people in Bloc countries feel that their lives were simply better when communist parties were in power. Even if it turns out to be wholly and irredeemably reactionary, I think we owe it to ourselves and working people everywhere to figure out why people feel this way, rather than to immediately label it reactionary then throw it to the wayside.

GoddessCleoLover
11th December 2012, 03:15
Reactionary or not, and I'm skeptical young Westerners have the authority to make such a determination in this case, it seems like many, many people in Bloc countries feel that their lives were simply better when communist parties were in power. Even if it turns out to be wholly and irredeemably reactionary, I think we owe it to ourselves and working people everywhere to figure out why people feel this way, rather than to immediately label it reactionary then throw it to the wayside.

Although there are reactionary features to "ost-algia" I believe that overall the phenomena is progressive, not reactionary. I remember back in the 90s my Dad told me that when he was in Rostock in the former DDR that many people thought that capitalist restoration was a change for the worse, not the better.

Let's Get Free
11th December 2012, 03:21
Well, at least under the Stalinists, along with the dictatorship of the bureaucratic capitalist class, the people got jobs, medical care and housing.

Now they've got a right-wing dictatorship, the billionaires run their country like a giant feudal estate, and they've got no rights AND no jobs.

At least when the Stalinists made you trade personal liberty for economic security you actually GOT a job out of it.

prolcon
11th December 2012, 03:23
Gladiator, has there ever been a moment in your life in which you were able to make a comment without having to make an "other" out of something?

GoddessCleoLover
11th December 2012, 03:24
Let us learn from the past and make a revolution for both liberty and jobs.

Althusser
11th December 2012, 04:04
i like

drawing dicks

on stalin's head

like antennae


i like

drawings vaginas

on lenin's head


I like drawing Trotskies.

We should all collaborate and have Stalin's forehead dick insert itself into Lenin's head vagina, burst a load of class consciousness so it can gestate and ferment and birth a Trotsky.


I'd like to do an erotic art piece using the real life mummified corpses of Lenin and Vlad the Imapler.

This thread is over guys. It can't be recovered. Disperse.

Sea
12th December 2012, 03:21
socialism = raising a statue of stalin

communism = drawing a dick on stalinYou are amazing, Avanti. You really are.

Actually not really, but close enough.