Communism is Dead. Capitalism is going Social

[thelongone888]

Sometimes it feels more like they are the same thing (Communism and Capitalism).

But when you look deeper you realise that Communism was bound to fail and capitalism continues to thrive?

Read more here:
www[dot]tefomohapi[dot]com/communism-is-dead-capitalism-is-going-social/

[Danielle Ni Dhighe]

OI is always good for a chuckle.

[Blake's Baby]

If you think communism and capitalism are the same thing, then it's possible you understand neither. Either way, you certainly don't understand one of them.

Capitalism: commodity production, wage labour, exclusive property laws, states.

Communism: production for need, no money, no property, no states.

That's the basics.

Oh, I just checked up, you don't understand what communism is, at the very least. I don't yet know whether you understand capitalism.

So; Cuba has a 'Communist Party' government. That means 'communism' is whatever Fidel or Raul Castro does, yes?

So; the USA has a 'Demcratic Party' government. That means 'democracy' is whatever Barak Obama does, yes?

No further questions.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Sometimes it feels more like they are the same thing (Communism and Capitalism).

But when you look deeper you realise that Communism was bound to fail and capitalism continues to thrive?/

How exactly is capitalism "thriving"? We're going through what in economic terms is a Depression in all but name...

---

By the way, I have a suggestion if this thread turns out to be yet another hit-and-run trollpost by the OP:

Delete the original post.

Leave any replies remaining, but I fail to see why we should be leaving up posts if the cowardly scumfucks who post them lack the intestinal and intellectual fortitude to actually defend them if challenged. I say we give them 48 hours and, if they haven't responded to criticisms in that time, we edit the OP's message and blank out its content.

We don't allow religious preaching, so I don't understand why political preaching gets a free pass.

[prolcon]

If capitalism thrives, why is Obama transforming it so easily into socialism? Huh, smart guy?

[TheRedAnarchist23]

But when you look deeper you realise that Communism was bound to fail and capitalism continues to thrive?

Really? Then how doe you explain the crisis in my country?

Capitalism is not going social, actualy it is destroying the social-democratic states of Europe and replacing them with 19th century capitalism.

[Marxaveli]

If capitalism thrives, why is Obama transforming it so easily into socialism? Huh, smart guy?

Huh? I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or serious.

And to the OP, capitalism only thrives for capitalists, never for workers, who are the majority. So how can you reasonably say it is a 'thriving' system?

[Let's Get Free]

capitalism continues to thrive

If by "thrive" you mean just sputtering about and continuing to create war, starvation and misery, I suppose you're correct.

But it looks like the parasitic capitalist economy, led by the United States, is on its deathbed, and despite the fact that parasitic capitalism is hooked up to an artificial lifeline that is infusing trillions of dollars into its weakened system, the outlook for the parasite is dismal.

[prolcon]

Huh? I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or serious.

Yeah, you can. Don't be such a wad.

[Questionable]

In this context "winning" merely means outlasting any rivals. These arguments remind me of people who walk away from fist fights completely covered in bleeding bruises, but then say "You should have seen the other guy!"

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Yeah, you can. Don't be such a wad.

No offence, but you're fairly new. I think it's a bit of a stretch for anyone to get a decent "feel" for someone's writing style in 20-odd posts scattered about a large forum.

[Rafiq]

Sometimes it feels more like they are the same thing (Communism and Capitalism).

But when you look deeper you realise that Communism was bound to fail and capitalism continues to thrive?

Read more here:
www[dot]tefomohapi[dot]com/communism-is-dead-capitalism-is-going-social/

20th century communism indeed did die, but it's death was signified by the failure of several periods of intensified class struggle a decade or two before the fall of the berlin wall. Do not be so naive, the bourgeois class may have sought to an international victory in the 1990's, but so long as the capitalist mode of production exists, so long as these class relations continue to exist, as will proletarian consciousness, i.e. Communism.

[prolcon]

No offence, but you're fairly new. I think it's a bit of a stretch for anyone to get a decent "feel" for someone's writing style in 20-odd posts scattered about a large forum.

I can appreciate that, but give me the benefit of the doubt; I'm not a complete idiot.

[Rafiq]

Really? Then how doe you explain the crisis in my country?

Capitalism is not going social, actualy it is destroying the social-democratic states of Europe and replacing them with 19th century capitalism.

Ha! If only you could be so lucky. 19th century capitalism was characterized by rapid industrialization and the development of the productive forces within captialsim, i.e. several different classes beggining to distinguish themselves with several different class interests. In regards to the Eurocrises, there is no "return" to old capitalism, those wars have been fought, and they are over. Whatever will emerge from this crises, on behalf of the bourgeois class will be quite unique.

[Flying Purple People Eater]

If capitalism thrives, why is Obama transforming it so easily into socialism? Huh, smart guy?
Obama will socialise you next, you anti-social bastard.

[TheRedAnarchist23]

Ha! If only you could be so lucky. 19th century capitalism was characterized by rapid industrialization and the development of the productive forces within captialsim, i.e. several different classes beggining to distinguish themselves with several different class interests. In regards to the Eurocrises, there is no "return" to old capitalism, those wars have been fought, and they are over. Whatever will emerge from this crises, on behalf of the bourgeois class will be quite unique.

They are taking away subsidies and trying to add hours of labour. We are not indistrializing, we are unindustrializing, and the government is provatizing everything it can get its hands on. They've already privatised national television, electricity, roads, bridges, and gas, but thankfully they still haven't privatised water.

[Crux]

How exactly is capitalism "thriving"? We're going through what in economic terms is a Depression in all but name...

---

By the way, I have a suggestion if this thread turns out to be yet another hit-and-run trollpost by the OP:

Delete the original post.

Leave any replies remaining, but I fail to see why we should be leaving up posts if the cowardly scumfucks who post them lack the intestinal and intellectual fortitude to actually defend them if challenged. I say we give them 48 hours and, if they haven't responded to criticisms in that time, we edit the OP's message and blank out its content.

We don't allow religious preaching, so I don't understand why political preaching gets a free pass.
I'd rather just delete them all to be honest. But sure, until tomorrow evening then.

[GoddessCleoLover]

The link provided by the OP doesn't even work. I don't even know what the whole notion of Capitalism going social is supposed to mean. Does it have something to do with the internet?:confused:

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

The link provided by the OP doesn't even work. I don't even know what the whole notion of Capitalism going social is supposed to mean. Does it have something to do with the internet?:confused:

"Social media" is counter-revolutionary! Death to the smartphones and twatters and fakebook accounts with real names!

[GoddessCleoLover]

Send them to Kolyma. Only the Great Leader is allowed a smartphone.:lol:

[Ostrinski]

Capitalism ain't gettin' any younger, folks. Eventually we will have to put the beast out of its misery.

[Blake's Baby]

The link provided by the OP doesn't even work. I don't even know what the whole notion of Capitalism going social is supposed to mean. Does it have something to do with the internet?:confused:

I got it to work yesterday. It's at least in part about how Cuba is going over to a market economy.