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A Revolutionary Tool
2nd December 2012, 05:49
What is Strasserism? I find myself to be in a debate with someone calling themselves a Strasserist, telling me they're the "good" Nazis while Hitler was simply a right-wing deviation of real National Socialism. So what is Strasserism because I looked it up on Wikipedia and it seems pretty vague.

Grenzer
2nd December 2012, 05:51
It's just Naziism lite. It emphasizes welfare state policies while dropping explicit anti-semitic references, while retaining the thinly veiled ones(conspiracy of bankers and greedy capitalists cause all problems). The Strasser brothers were initially influential 'theorists' in the Nazi party in the 20's and represented the left wing of the party(not saying much), and were later purged as Hitler began getting the support of industrial capitalists.

The Jay
2nd December 2012, 05:52
They are nazis that didn't follow hitler's route. They are still corporatist but usually have a bit more of an idea of what their economic policies mean than hitler types. They are also usually less race-based but they are still 'racialists'. Basically, you can debate them and they listen to reason sometimes but they are still fascists. Don't bother too much with them. You will just get frustrated for nothing. It isn't worth it.

The Idler
2nd December 2012, 11:52
Strasserism considers itself left-wing and workerist. In those respects it has common ground with various groups that celebrate these qualities that might be encountered on the left.

TheGodlessUtopian
2nd December 2012, 13:18
Strasserism considers itself left-wing and workerist. In those respects it has common ground with various groups that celebrate these qualities that might be encountered on the left.

Building on this Strasserists believe in a sort of two-stage theory where Hitler's rise to power was a "half-revolution". They endorsed the initial objectives to this revolution but preach that it went off course when Hitler failed to undertake the second half of the theory which called for a secondary "socialist" revolution to revolutionize the Means of Production.

In terms of ideology they are still White Nationalist and uphold everything which goes along with such race theory.

Lynx
2nd December 2012, 15:13
Did Paraguay experience strasserism?

TheGodlessUtopian
3rd December 2012, 07:25
Comrades, please knock off the joking around. This is the learning forum, after all, and posting comedic knock-offs of the content of the OP's question is not helping anyone make heads or tails of the topic at hand.

Yazman
3rd December 2012, 15:41
MODERATOR ACTION:

Indeed, this IS the Learning forum, and these joke posts aren't allowed. I'm going to trash the offending posts and if I see any more, I'm handing out infractions.

Keep the discussion on track or it's your ass.

This post is a general warning.

GoddessCleoLover
3rd December 2012, 15:50
In response to Lynx's query; the Paraguayan military dictator to whom you make reference was General Alfredo Stroessner, who was entirely unrelated to either Gregor or Otto Strasser.

To keep it short and sweet, Strasserism attempts to portray itself as favoring workers' power and socialism while rejecting class analysis and retaining many features of nationalism and anti-Semitism which are prevalent in various forms of Fascism. To my mind, therefore, Strasserism is merely a Fascist variant that pretends to be progressive and Strasserites are not our comrades.