Hi from the oppressed U.S.A.

[Green Girl]

I'm a member of the Green Party and wanted to vote for Jill Stein for president :) however due to our corporate controlled democrat and republican parties influence on local governments making it hard for third parties to gain ballot status in all 50 states. :mad: I also couldn't vote for my second and third choices: Rocky Anderson of the Justice Party and Stewart Alexander of the Socialist Party.:cursing:

I am working on a new political/economic system called Economic Democracy. There have been a few writings about Economic Democracy, however my vision is a little different and I believe it will be the successor to both capitalism and communism and actually create a workers paradise on Earth.

On my blog Economic Democratic Movement of America I go into detail on how it would work in real life. Sorry I can't give a link as I don't have 25 posts yet, but I understand the reasons. However if you do a google search "Economic Democratic Movement of America" it will be the second hit. Some of you may have visited my blog already.

When I try to explain my new political/economic system to people I say "Follow the money, every single penny comes from the labor power of the working class either by manufacturing a product, removing minerals from the earth or offering a service. All wealth the capitalists enjoy was appropriated from the backs of the working class." We have a real problem in the U.S.A. 47% of the population is on Food Stamps as they make less than poverty wages. The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer and I believe the U.S.A. is very close to revolution. The top 1% wealthiest capitalists own the majority of the wealth.:cursing: I support the "Occupy Wall Street" and the 99%'ers movements.:)

[Brosa Luxemburg]

All I can think reading each thing you just posted is that you really do not belong on this forum.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

All I can think reading each thing you just posted is that you really do not belong on this forum.

In opposing ideologies section, perhaps
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That being said welcome to the forum.

[Danielle Ni Dhighe]

Welcome to the board.

But after reading this...

What The Economic Democratic Movement of America (EDMOA) proposes (http://edmoa.blogspot.com/2012/09/what-economic-democratic-movement-of.html)

...I'm curious why you thought this would be a good place to promote it?

[Green Girl]

Welcome to the board.

But after reading this...What The Economic Democratic Movement of America (EDMOA) proposes

...I'm curious why you thought this would be a good place to promote it?

Because this is the closest forum I have found to my ideologies. If you read it closely you will see that each worker/owner of has one voting unit at the plant or office they work and each worker is paid one equal unit unless the majority of workers decide that a worker is deserving of more than one unit.

As I clearly stated: "The Marketplace is Consumerism, capitalism is a distortion of the marketplace. These shysters come in and appropriate most of the profit for themselves by making available capital to buy the equipment and pay the cost for rent and equipment so workers can make their products.

And who buys the workers products? Consumers. And who are consumers? Workers of course. So it makes the most sense to have ALL of the profit of the workers labor power go to the workers who will then spend more money thus creating a demand for more products and more products equals more jobs. It is consumers/workers who are the real job creators, capitalist are just parasites who live off the labor of others. In short if there was government financing of new business, capitalist exploitation would be unnecessary."

As it says at the top of my page I am against the totalitarianism inherent in Capitalism. There aren't too many other anti-capitalists sites on the internet. You do understand Economic Democracy completely eliminates the capitalist class, they would have to get jobs just like every one else and find what it is like to actually work for a living.

In short I thought this site was perfect. :)

[Comrade #138672]

Welcome to the forum.

I don't think it's a good idea to send everyone away who isn't immediately Communist. When I joined this forum, I still had a lot to learn. So it might be a good idea to give people a chance to learn and adapt their views, before sending them away saying that they do not belong here. People's views can change and I do believe the TS has the potential to become a revolutionary.

Not sure what you mean by Economic Democracy, but Socialism and Communism are pretty much that. You can't have Economic Democracy without Socialism and Communism. Private property must be abolished. You claim that your system is new, but I honestly doubt it.

The Green Party is not revolutionary. You need to go beyond the Green Party. The whole mechanism of voting is bourgeois and trying to work inside the system will only make the much hated corporations happy. Even if you are in favour of Parliamentarism, you will still need to move outside the status quo politics. To be a revolutionary, much more is required.

[Soomie]

Welcome to the forum.

I don't think it's a good idea to send everyone away who isn't immediately Communist. When I joined this forum, I still had a lot to learn. So it might be a good idea to give people a chance to learn and adapt their views, before sending them away saying that they do not belong here. People's views can change and I do believe the TS has the potential to become a revolutionary.

Not sure what you mean by Economic Democracy, but Socialism and Communism are pretty much that. You can't have Economic Democracy without Socialism and Communism. Private property must be abolished. You claim that your system is new, but I honestly doubt it.

The Green Party is not revolutionary. You need to go beyond the Green Party. The whole mechanism of voting is bourgeois and trying to work inside the system will only make the much hated corporations happy. Even if you are in favour of Parliamentarism, you will still need to move outside the status quo politics. To be a revolutionary, much more is required.


Couldn't agree more. When I first became interested in politics/economics I supported Capitalism and was a Democrat because I didn't know any better. Not everyone starts off as a communist. Just because the OP has outlined a hybrid economic system that utilizes money doesn't mean that he doesn't belong on the forum. Socialism still utilizes a monetary system between Capitalism and Communism. I think the OP is on the right path and may choose to switch further left after learning more, but even if he or she doesn't is it a big deal? Yes, I don't agree with Capitalism, but I can't look down on someone who praises it as a good system in its original form, flawed though it may be. Everything has flaws. Darwin's theory of evolution, although informative could prove to have some major flaws as science continues to make advances. What is important here is fueling an interest in something, offering an unbiased education of something, and allowing people to choose which idea best fits them from there.

[Green Girl]

All I can think reading each thing you just posted is that you really do not belong on this forum.:(

All I can say in my defense is I am pro economic and political democracy and anti-capitalist. My blog is about bringing this to fruition. I think Economic Democracy sounds much better than communism to Americans however there really is not a big difference as workers are in complete control and the capitalist class is transformed into workers.

So if I may ask, why don't I belong on this forum?:confused:

[Green Girl]

In opposing ideologies section, perhaps
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That being said welcome to the forum.

Thanks, looks like a very interesting place. :)

[Green Girl]

Welcome to the forum.

I don't think it's a good idea to send everyone away who isn't immediately Communist. When I joined this forum, I still had a lot to learn. So it might be a good idea to give people a chance to learn and adapt their views, before sending them away saying that they do not belong here. People's views can change and I do believe the TS has the potential to become a revolutionary.

Not sure what you mean by Economic Democracy, but Socialism and Communism are pretty much that. You can't have Economic Democracy without Socialism and Communism. Private property must be abolished. You claim that your system is new, but I honestly doubt it.

The Green Party is not revolutionary. You need to go beyond the Green Party. The whole mechanism of voting is bourgeois and trying to work inside the system will only make the much hated corporations happy. Even if you are in favour of Parliamentarism, you will still need to move outside the status quo politics. To be a revolutionary, much more is required.

Thanks, I'm a member of the Green Party as their platform is 1000% times better than the awful democrats and awful republicans, and their improvements would elevate a lot of suffering of Americans. However since starting my "Economic Democratic Movement of America" I wonder if elevating suffering will delay the U.S.A. adopting a real workers government. I can't link it yet as I'm new but my Economic Democracy puts workers in complete control and eliminates the capitalist class completely, they will thusly be transformed into workers too. :)

[Green Girl]

Couldn't agree more. When I first became interested in politics/economics I supported Capitalism and was a Democrat because I didn't know any better. Not everyone starts off as a communist. Just because the OP has outlined a hybrid economic system that utilizes money doesn't mean that he doesn't belong on the forum. Socialism still utilizes a monetary system between Capitalism and Communism. I think the OP is on the right path and may choose to switch further left after learning more, but even if he or she doesn't is it a big deal? Yes, I don't agree with Capitalism, but I can't look down on someone who praises it as a good system in its original form, flawed though it may be. Everything has flaws. Darwin's theory of evolution, although informative could prove to have some major flaws as science continues to make advances. What is important here is fueling an interest in something, offering an unbiased education of something, and allowing people to choose which idea best fits them from there.

I just wanted to say that I am strongly anti-capitalist! From my blog "Democracy is government of the people, by the people and for the people which is in direct contrast to the totalitarianism inherent in Capitalism thus the Economic Democratic Movement of America advocates both political and economic democracy so we can become a complete democratic society in all endeavors.

The Marketplace is Consumerism, capitalism is a distortion of the marketplace. These shysters come in and appropriate most of the profit for themselves by making available capital to buy the equipment and pay the cost for rent and equipment so workers can make their products.

And who buys the workers products? Consumers. And who are consumers? Workers of course. So it makes the most sense to have ALL of the profit of the workers labor power go to the workers who will then spend more money thus creating a demand for more products and more products equals more jobs. It is consumers/workers who are the real job creators, capitalist are just parasites who live off the labor of others."

So as you can see I am very anti-capitalist. Also check some of my other recent posts to see how I think Economic Democracy could evolve into a system beyond the use of money. Then it would truly be from each according to their ability, to each according to their needs and wants.

I just think I confused some people by voting Green Party, I have for 10 years and the development of my Economic Democratic Movement of America. See have evolved way beyond the Green Party years ago, but I have to live in the present, I know I may not live long enough to see economic democracy but that does not stop me writing about it and fighting for it.

I will always be Green Girl even when I am able to no longer vote Green Party as I recycle and am totally in tune with saving the planet.

[Jimmie Higgins]

All I can think reading each thing you just posted is that you really do not belong on this forum.I think we should be more inviting for someone who thinks "revolution is coming" and seems earnest about wanting a just world for the working class.

@Green Girl. Welcome first of all. Brosa is a very good poster, and so please don't take the bluntness personally. The issues with your introduction that I think may be against the conditions of posting in the main part of the board is that we do not think electoral change can actually achieve lasting gains for the working class and that people need to mobilize themselves and create their own system (based on a much more democratic form of governance since workers will need to collectivly run things).

At any rate, I look forward to discussing some of these debates and ideas with you, welcome.

[Green Girl]

I think we should be more inviting for someone who thinks "revolution is coming" and seems earnest about wanting a just world for the working class.

@Green Girl. Welcome first of all. Brosa is a very good poster, and so please don't take the bluntness personally. The issues with your introduction that I think may be against the conditions of posting in the main part of the board is that we do not think electoral change can actually achieve lasting gains for the working class and that people need to mobilize themselves and create their own system (based on a much more democratic form of governance since workers will need to collectivly run things).

At any rate, I look forward to discussing some of these debates and ideas with you, welcome.

Thanks Jimmie :)

UPDATED
Back in the 1980's I was a member of The Socialist Labor Party of Daniel deLeon and read their weekly paper. I also got the paper the People's Weekly World of the Communist Party USA and it was the Communist Party not the Socialist Labor Party who supported Democrat Jesse Jackson's run for President in 1984, so I don't think it is so bad to be for Jill Stein. I know voting hasn't been productive for me, Jill Stein on the Green Party didn't even get 1% of the vote because in the U.S.A. the democrats and republicans are bought and paid for by the corporate elite and they control the television including the national debates, all the print media and they do everything in the their power to keep third parties out of the public's eye because they don't own them and almost all third parties are anti-corporate elite, so people keep telling me I am throwing my vote away. However if I ever voted for a democrat or republican I would be voting against my own interest and my own class, so I refuse.

[DDR]

More meat to the OI grinder!

When I saw the title of the thread I belived that this was a troll post, but for my disapointment is just someone with good intentions but no idea.

[Brosa Luxemburg]

I think we should be more inviting for someone who thinks "revolution is coming" and seems earnest about wanting a just world for the working class.

Yeah, but the poster seemed to indicate some VERY reformist positions, something me and you are both opposed to.


@Green Girl. Welcome first of all. Brosa is a very good poster

I feel so special. ;)


and so please don't take the bluntness personally. The issues with your introduction that I think may be against the conditions of posting in the main part of the board is that we do not think electoral change can actually achieve lasting gains for the working class and that people need to mobilize themselves and create their own system (based on a much more democratic form of governance since workers will need to collectivly run things).

I would rephrase some of what was said above, but this is pretty much correct.

[Yet_Another_Boring_Marxist]

Ignore some of the rusty old folk! Welcome to revleft, don't worry they'll forget about your reformisn soon enough once you get your head into the tendency wars :P

[o well this is ok I guess]

So if I may ask, why don't I belong on this forum?:confused: The site caters to revolutionary leftists and DNZ. You know, storming the winter palace with lots of guns and shit.

If you're cool with that then cool man welcome.

[Igor]

are you pro or anti skub

[Green Girl]

are you pro or anti skub

Sorry I don't know, I had never heard of skub before. I searched posts on RevLeft and only found two which didn't help me figure out what it is. Did a google search and found several definitions and based on those I still couldn't decide.

"Skub is a fictional product based on a comic strip from the web page The Perry Bible Fellowship.
The comic strip portrays two people bearing shirts "pro-skub" and "anti-skub" who ultimately fight due to each others stance on this product, with the final panel bearing an image of a container of Skub. "Skub" Itself is portrayed as a container of cream similar to hair wax. The insignificance of skub is the basis of the comics joke, which arises from the fact that people would not normally have an allegiance to a product this insignificant.

...Soon it brought to attention to the internet, many people took to their own side of the war.

A person who is pro-skub is A person who has yet to realize the fact that skub is terrible.

While someone who is anti-skub is One who doesn’t see the glorious benefits in that which is skub.

If you are Pro Skub then you believe that: skub does everything good and creates all good things.

However if you are Anti-skub then you believe: skub is evil it does everything evil and wrong you believe the it is the creation of all evil things"

I went to the Perry Bible Fellowship Comics website and that didn't help either.

Does skub mean something different to you?

[Marxaveli]

First off, hello and welcome to the board Green Girl.

While a few others have pointed out some of the flaws in your politics, I would like to say you have at least a good starting foundation if you are indeed anti-capitalist. Unfortunately, participating in electoral politics only reinforces and perpetuates the capitalist system - we can never reform capitalism into another system. I encourage you to read and learn about revolutionary politics - be it Anarchism or any of the various strands of Marxism, which you will be able to do here quite easily, needless to say. I recommend starting with reading either The Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, or the short but concise The Principles of Communism (http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm) by Engels. Both of these are good introductions to Historical Materialism. Best of luck to you on your road to achieving class consciousness and radicalization.

[Rugged Collectivist]

I'm a member of the Green Party and wanted to vote for Jill Stein for president :) however due to our corporate controlled democrat and republican parties influence on local governments making it hard for third parties to gain ballot status in all 50 states. :mad: I also couldn't vote for my second and third choices: Rocky Anderson of the Justice Party and Stewart Alexander of the Socialist Party.:cursing:

Well, being a person who's never voted I'm no expert on the process, but couldn't you just write their name in?


I am working on a new political/economic system called Economic Democracy. There have been a few writings about Economic Democracy, however my vision is a little different and I believe it will be the successor to both capitalism and communism and actually create a workers paradise on Earth.

And so humble too!

In all seriousness, I appreciate your eagerness. Welcome to the boards.

I have stuff to do but I'll try to read your blog eventually.


All I can think reading each thing you just posted is that you really do not belong on this forum.

Let her stay in OI. She straight up said she wanted to create a workers paradise on earth so I guess we at least have something in common.

[Zeus the Moose]

Thanks Jimmie :)

UPDATED
Back in the 1980's I was a member of The Socialist Labor Party of Daniel deLeon and read their weekly paper. I also got the paper the People's Weekly World of the Communist Party USA and it was the Communist Party not the Socialist Labor Party who supported Democrat Jesse Jackson's run for President in 1984, so I don't think it is so bad to be for Jill Stein. I know voting hasn't been productive for me, Jill Stein on the Green Party didn't even get 1% of the vote because in the U.S.A. the democrats and republicans are bought and paid for by the corporate elite and they control the television including the national debates, all the print media and they do everything in the their power to keep third parties out of the public's eye because they don't own them and almost all third parties are anti-corporate elite, so people keep telling me I am throwing my vote away. However if I ever voted for a democrat or republican I would be voting against my own interest and my own class, so I refuse.

Huh, there seem to be several ex-SLP folks who are not involved with the Green Party in some fashion. I communicated with one in my state during my brief period in the Green Party, and the 2006 Green gubernatorial candidate in Illinois was a former SLP member. Was there any conscious movement of SLPers to the Greens?

So a bit about your history, I guess; what caused you to join the SLP, and why did you leave?

[Green Girl]

First off, hello and welcome to the board Green Girl.

While a few others have pointed out some of the flaws in your politics, I would like to say you have at least a good starting foundation if you are indeed anti-capitalist. Unfortunately, participating in electoral politics only reinforces and perpetuates the capitalist system - we can never reform capitalism into another system. I encourage you to read and learn about revolutionary politics - be it Anarchism or any of the various strands of Marxism, which you will be able to do here quite easily, needless to say. I recommend starting with reading either The Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, or the short but concise
The Principles of Communism[/URL] by Engels. Both of these are good introductions to Historical Materialism. Best of luck to you on your road to achieving class consciousness and radicalization.

Hi :)

My first exposure to communism was in 1973 when I read Mao Tse Tung's Little Red Book. Later I read The Communist Manifesto and Das Kapital by Karl Marx. Most of the works by Daniel deLeon. I have been a member of the Social Labor Party back in the 1980's and read their week newspaper The People, and subscribed to the The Peoples Weekly World published by the Communist Party USA. I visit the websites of most of these parties several times a week, they are all in my favorites. I just finished reading Muammar Qaddafi's Green Book and the ideas of my new movement "The Economic Democratic Movement of America" come from the best of all of these works along new ideas of mine to create what I have seen in my minds eye as a true workers paradise on earth. I can't post a link since I'm new however if you feel interested it comes up as the second item in a google search.

I am still putting together my economic/political system, I am working on many aspects of society.

My worker/owner cooperatives will do away with the capitalist class completely.

I am working on government financing of worker owned cooperatives, reading Muammar Qaddafi's Green Book reassured that usury (interest) is wrong and can cause what Marx calls the crisis of overproduction because "all the workers" couldn't buy "all the workers" products. So as Muammar Qaddafi suggests the banks will be nationalized and charge no interest on loans and pay no interest on savings. The powerful super rich illuminati families got rich with compounded interest over centuries made by doing no work at all, just loaning money, Interest is oppressive exploitation. The tellers and other nationalized bank personal would be paid out of the government's general fund.

The worker owned cooperatives give each worker one share in distribution of income and one share in voting, and the complete elimination of the capitalist class. However this is only the beginning as once all who can work are worker/owners and once we satisfy the needs and wants of all people, we can take the next step which is the elimination of money once we have an abundance of food, life's necessities and luxuries for all then there is no need for money and that should end most crime.

In the USA the Socialist parties and the Communist Party USA believe they can run candidates for office and believe they can reform the capitalist system from within. I have even voted for the late Gus Hall for President twice, however in 40 years most third party candidates seldom get 1% of the vote and many often much less. So like you I think they may just be spinning their wheels. However, the attempts by socialists and communists in running for office actually give exposure and even support for these parties and if we do have a revolution they would be sympathetic to them and worker's causes in general in my humble opinion.

I still have my copy of The Communist Manifesto.

[Green Girl]

Well, being a person who's never voted I'm no expert on the process, but couldn't you just write their name in?

My state has electronic voting and doesn't allow write-ins.


And so humble too!

In all seriousness, I appreciate your eagerness. Welcome to the boards.

I have stuff to do but I'll try to read your blog eventually.

Thanks a bunch, it's still a work in progress and I would appreciate suggestions. I'm usually a little more humble however I am quite proud of my little baby.

[Green Girl]

Huh, there seem to be several ex-SLP folks who are not involved with the Green Party in some fashion. I communicated with one in my state during my brief period in the Green Party, and the 2006 Green gubernatorial candidate in Illinois was a former SLP member. Was there any conscious movement of SLPers to the Greens?

So a bit about your history, I guess; what caused you to join the SLP, and why did you leave?

Hi Zeus,

Even though the Socialist Labor Party correctly stated that the former Soviet Union was NOT a communist country but State Capitalism decades before its fall, living in the USA where many Americans are scared of the words socialist and communist because of the long cold war with the Soviet Union, I thought another socialist party without socialist in their name would have a better chance of getting elected.

Have you read the Green Party's platform? It is very worker friendly even though it leaves capitalism intact it puts huge restraints on it. Jill Stein would have pulled all of our troops out of the Middle East on her first day in office and cut military spending in half. She would change unemployment offices to employment offices and completely end unemployment by guaranteeing every one who wants to work a job and at livable wage. Raise the minimum wage to $10 per hour. Go back to fair trade, end bank foreclosures, adopt single-payer health care, very anti-corporate elite, etc. Of all the American third parties without socialist or communist in their name the Green Party is the most socialist, there are about 100 Green Party members in office around the country but none in Washington D.C. because of its strong anti-corporate stand the power brokers are very afraid of them because they can't buy the Green Party candidates to push their agenda. So the Corporate-elite do everything possible insure very few Americans ever hear of the Green Party.:(

[Grenzer]

Weird. The SLP was known for its militant opposition to any kind of reformism, so it's strange to me that they would flock to such a blatantly liberal party as the Greens.

In any case, welcome to the forum!

[Yazman]

Sorry I don't know, I had never heard of skub before. I searched posts on RevLeft and only found two which didn't help me figure out what it is. Did a google search and found several definitions and based on those I still couldn't decide.

"Skub is a fictional product based on a comic strip from the web page The Perry Bible Fellowship.
The comic strip portrays two people bearing shirts "pro-skub" and "anti-skub" who ultimately fight due to each others stance on this product, with the final panel bearing an image of a container of Skub. "Skub" Itself is portrayed as a container of cream similar to hair wax. The insignificance of skub is the basis of the comics joke, which arises from the fact that people would not normally have an allegiance to a product this insignificant.

...Soon it brought to attention to the internet, many people took to their own side of the war.

A person who is pro-skub is A person who has yet to realize the fact that skub is terrible.

While someone who is anti-skub is One who doesn’t see the glorious benefits in that which is skub.

If you are Pro Skub then you believe that: skub does everything good and creates all good things.

However if you are Anti-skub then you believe: skub is evil it does everything evil and wrong you believe the it is the creation of all evil things"

I went to the Perry Bible Fellowship Comics website and that didn't help either.

Does skub mean something different to you?

You should totally ignore those "definitions" as they are all just a fan fiction of sorts, except for the bit mentioning Perry Bible Fellowship, it IS actually a reference to that comic.

This one:
Click spoiler tag to see image:
http://pbfcomics.com/archive_b/PBF020-Skub.gif


The original source link is here:
http://pbfcomics.com/20/

[Ostrinski]

When the sympathizer of left communist internationals, Second International revivalist parties, and DeLeonist orgs establishes some lucidity in his own politics maybe he can judge the politics of others :lol:.

Welcome to the board. You will probably be restricted to OI because your views don't line up with revolutionary leftism but I hope you take the opportunity to learn more about revolutionary theory.

[Yet_Another_Boring_Marxist]

When the sympathizer of left communist internationals, Second International revivalist parties, and DeLeonist orgs establishes some lucidity in his own politics maybe he can judge the politics of others :lol:.

Welcome to the board. You will probably be restricted to OI because your views don't line up with revolutionary leftism but I hope you take the opportunity to learn more about revolutionary theory.

I disagree, we have enough principled leftists here to not worry about having our site being diluted by reformists.

[Ostrinski]

I disagree, we have enough principled leftists here to not worry about having our site being diluted by reformists.Go fuck yourself

[Yet_Another_Boring_Marxist]

That's a bit harsh, All I said was that I don't think she needs to be restricted because at this point there aren't enough reformists to damage the site

[Ostrinski]

That's a bit harsh, All I said was that I don't think she needs to be restricted because at this point there aren't enough reformists to damage the siteOh, sorry. Misunderstood you.

[Yet_Another_Boring_Marxist]

Oh, sorry. Misunderstood you.

Yea, I think I misunderstood your post as saying she ought to be restricted, my bad

[The Jay]

I'm a member of the Green Party and wanted to vote for Jill Stein for president :) however due to our corporate controlled democrat and republican parties influence on local governments making it hard for third parties to gain ballot status in all 50 states. :mad: I also couldn't vote for my second and third choices: Rocky Anderson of the Justice Party and Stewart Alexander of the Socialist Party.:cursing:

I am working on a new political/economic system called Economic Democracy. There have been a few writings about Economic Democracy, however my vision is a little different and I believe it will be the successor to both capitalism and communism and actually create a workers paradise on Earth.

On my blog Economic Democratic Movement of America I go into detail on how it would work in real life. Sorry I can't give a link as I don't have 25 posts yet, but I understand the reasons. However if you do a google search "Economic Democratic Movement of America" it will be the second hit. Some of you may have visited my blog already.

When I try to explain my new political/economic system to people I say "Follow the money, every single penny comes from the labor power of the working class either by manufacturing a product, removing minerals from the earth or offering a service. All wealth the capitalists enjoy was appropriated from the backs of the working class." We have a real problem in the U.S.A. 47% of the population is on Food Stamps as they make less than poverty wages. The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer and I believe the U.S.A. is very close to revolution. The top 1% wealthiest capitalists own the majority of the wealth.:cursing: I support the "Occupy Wall Street" and the 99%'ers movements.:)

Welcome to the forum! I am not sure if you are aware of this or not but if you have not heard of these here ya go: Richard Wolff with his books and website (great marxist educational content) (http://rdwolff.org), Z Net with the analysis by various leftists, free books, and the focus on participatory economics (workers' self-management) (http://www.zcommunications.org/znet), and a project and book by Richard Wolff for the building of workers' cooperatives (http://democracyatwork.info).

I haven't checked out your blog yet so I don't know if you know of these sources yet but it could help you to realize that even the Green Party is not in the interests of the people of the United States or their equivalents in other countries. The GP is better than the two major parties, that is true, but the policies that they espouse leave in place the means and incentives of the capitalist class to roll back those reforms and then we would be right back where we started.

If we wish to end capitalism and go towards a sustainable future that internalizes the costs and benefits to humanity we need to move towards an end to it instead of taming it as the GP wishes.

I could toss you other links if you wish.

[GoddessCleoLover]

Welcome to the board and I hope that the powers-that-be are not persuaded by dogmatism or sectarianism to restrict you.

[ellipsis]

Welcome!