class hatred 2#

[Avanti]

this thread (http://www.revleft.com/vb/showthread.php?t=176614)

made me thinking

why do the middle class

hate not the workers

but the lumpens

so very much

directly when middle class

and bourgeois mouth-pieces

are attacking welfare

or leftism

they evoke

the image of the bum

of the parasite

of the non-productive tramp

outside of the chain of production

it is insane

homeless drunks

are very attuned to survival

people who sleep in carbon boxes

have a very tough life

yet

they are accused

for living "easy lives"

off "honest people's work"

people who live of welfare

at least where i am

are usually young women

who look absolutely normal

and feel bad

because they want to work

but no

those who the middle class are hating

are people who are too

crazy or alienated or gone

to use the welfare system

they are outside the system

looking inside

is it a fear

of falling outside the system

by themselves?

or is it

a blind hatred

against those

who cannot be "useful"?

i think

it is a mix

but i also think

it is vaguely sexual

[Rafiq]

Studies show only 2/5ths of poor collect welfare and only 14% do not work.

[Avanti]

Studies show only 2/5ths of poor collect welfare and only 14% do not work.

yes

i have been homeless

lived in homeless shelters

and talked with a lot

of homeless people

none of them ever collected welfare

you have to have an address

to go on welfare

[Grenzer]

Class HAAAAAATRED!!!

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[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Now that is an interesting question, Avanti. Although I would note that in the UK, the stereotype/strawman of welfare claimants that is attacked in the mainstream media tends to be more along the lines of single mothers (with any amount of children, although the larger the amount the more likely the attack), immigrants (often confused with asylum seekers and also paradoxically accused of "stealin' our jerbs") and of course, the chavvy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav) "underclasses" who are portrayed as being the source of so much of the UK's alleged "moral decline".

As you may have gathered, I think much of the blame lies with the UK's fucking spineless lickspittles that are our mainstream media, which is owned by a handful of rich fucking bastards (who are nothing like the middle-class types who you attacked in the previous thread - I'm looking at you, Rupert fucking Murdoch!) who have an ideological and material interest in attacking and demonising the working poor, but since the working poor are already busting their arses, they evoke the imagery of the non-working poor to press home their assaults.

Never mind that the non-working poor are trivial both in terms of cost to the economy and any benefit that may be accrued by getting them into work, because it's not about the economy. It's about a bunch of rich and powerful bastards who greedily and selfishly want even more money and power. Part of that involves keeping the middle classes distracted and fearful with emotive bullshit on the news broadcasts and in the newspapers.

[GoddessCleoLover]

Noxion's post is spot on. The bourgeoisie wants the proletariat to focus on the lumpen as the source of proletarian misery rather focusing on the role of the bourgeoisie.

[Marxaveli]

I am guilty of class hate. I hate the bourgeois - they're all fucking parasites who don't work for a living because they have an army of wage slaves to do all the work for them, but then they turn around and call us the lazy ones. ROFL.

[Avanti]

I am guilty of class hate. I hate the bourgeois - they're all fucking parasites who don't work for a living because they have an army of wage slaves to do all the work for them, but then they turn around and call us the lazy ones. ROFL.

i hate the bourgeois

but i hate the middle class

as well

[Yuppie Grinder]

I more resent the middle class then anything, and only for their mindless patriotism and adherence to Jeffersonian ideology and their contempt for the working poor.

[Avanti]

they

are internalizing

the state of oppression

making self-oppression

an ideal

they live for the system

they worship the system

the working class are just in it

for the pub visits and easy access to sex

the middle class

have swallowed the ideology

[Art Vandelay]

There is no such thing as the "middle class."

[Yuppie Grinder]

There is no such thing as the "middle class."

Of course, but you know what we mean. Small business owners and well to do professionals.

[Rafiq]

Well, Gourmet, you know what they say. The Petite bourgeoisie are a reactionary class (or urban petite bourgeoisie, that is).