Joining a liberal forum

[ВАЛТЕР]

So, after getting annoyed by the idiotic postings of the liberal "I Acknowledge Class Warfare Exists" facebook page, I am thinking about joining an online forum of liberals and to try and give them something to think about. I don't want to go troll them, I was just thinking about explaining a few things to them. Since many of them seem to be "good people" in that they really don't seem to wish harm on anyone like the typical patriotic right winger does.

Anyone have experience with this? Will they just chase me away? I'm prepared to take on their childish arguments, I was just wondering what you all thought of it. If I can get one or two people to think critically, then I think I have done something good.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

I honestly do not see the point. I think if one is going to spend time talking with liberals about the realities of capitalism it should be somewhere in the real world where connections can be made on a more direct level. I do not think it is positive or negative, its just that I do not see much happening from it. You never know I guess. I was recruited online but it depends heavily on the kind of person you are talking with and if they are convicted enough of their beliefs to join a liberal forum they probably aren't going to be that kind of person.

[ВАЛТЕР]

I honestly do not see the point. I think if one is going to spend time talking with liberals about the realities of capitalism it should be somewhere in the real world where connections can be made on a more direct level. I do not think it is positive or negative, its just that I do not see much happening from it. You never know I guess. I was recruited online but it depends heavily on the kind of person you are talking with and if they are convicted enough of their beliefs to join a liberal forum they probably aren't going to be that kind of person.

Yeah, I engage people every chance I get in person. In fact, I made a friend see that his homophobia was irrational and that his arguments had no basis in reality just the other day. I wasn't aggressive with him, since I find that when you are aggressive people get stubborn. I just brought up facts and after a few days he said I was right.

I'm generally a lot better at discussing things in person than I am online. I might go join a forum for the fun of it, although I'm sure their arguments would get pretty obnoxious, pretty quickly. I'm not really committed to the idea, I'm just thinking "out loud" so to say.

[Jimmie Higgins]

I agree with TheGodlessUtopian. At worst it's a some practice for countering these arguments when they come up in real life.

[The Jay]

Do it. I got banned from Democratic Underground but their terms for joining are no communists. It was fun for the whole day though.

[The Jay]

Oh yeah, the thing about Democratic Underground is that some of the sample avatars are communists. I really hate them I think.

[Flying Purple People Eater]

To be fair, I'd take a stand that most Democrats are liberal in name only.h


Don't be a wingnut (right-wing or extreme-fringe).

Democratic Underground is an online community for politically liberal people who understand the importance of working within the system to elect more Democrats and fewer Republicans to all levels of political office. Teabaggers, Neo-cons, Dittoheads, Paulites, Freepers, Birthers, and right-wingers in general are not welcome here. Neither are certain extreme-fringe left-wingers, including advocates of violent political/social change, hard-line communists, terrorist-apologists, America-haters, kooks, crackpots, LaRouchies, and the like.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

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[ВАЛТЕР]

To be fair, I'd take a stand that most Democrats are liberal in name only.


Basically forbidding any opposing viewpoints. How so very democratic of them. :rolleyes:

[statichaos]

So, after getting annoyed by the idiotic postings of the liberal "I Acknowledge Class Warfare Exists" facebook page, I am thinking about joining an online forum of liberals and to try and give them something to think about. I don't want to go troll them, I was just thinking about explaining a few things to them. Since many of them seem to be "good people" in that they really don't seem to wish harm on anyone like the typical patriotic right winger does.

Anyone have experience with this? Will they just chase me away? I'm prepared to take on their childish arguments, I was just wondering what you all thought of it. If I can get one or two people to think critically, then I think I have done something good.

Try liberalforum.org. They're so bourgeois liberal that they make me look anarchocommunist in comparison.

[Igor]

Basically forbidding any opposing viewpoints. How so very democratic of them. :rolleyes:

well uh not a huge fan of DU or anything but how is that any different from the idea behind revleft and oi. it's a forum for liberals, not for us/conservatives to get our kicks off trolling liberals

[GoddessCleoLover]

Seems like a waste of energy.

[ВАЛТЕР]

well uh not a huge fan of DU or anything but how is that any different from the idea behind revleft and oi. it's a forum for liberals, not for us/conservatives to get our kicks off trolling liberals

It's okay when we do it though! Our dear leader admins are only trying to protect us.

I bet if I joined the forum and said I was a socialsit, they would think I was one of them. Since most of them probably think Norway is a socialist nation.

[The Jay]

well uh not a huge fan of DU or anything but how is that any different from the idea behind revleft and oi. it's a forum for liberals, not for us/conservatives to get our kicks off trolling liberals

It wasn't that which annoyed me. It was that they had pics of Che, Malcolm X and others everywhere. It would be like us having pics of Obama and Clinton plastered all over.

[statichaos]

It wasn't that which annoyed me. It was that they had pics of Che, Malcolm X and others everywhere. It would be like us having pics of Obama and Clinton plastered all over.

That's so annoyingly poli-hipster that I can't believe it.

[Igor]

i don't think you get hipsters if you at this point and on this decade think there's something hipster about che

[statichaos]

i don't think you get hipsters if you at this point and on this decade think there's something hipster about che

It's more like political hipsters don't get Che. If you're an actual revolutionary who uses him as a symbol? Fine. If you're some stoner kid who thinks that Obama is an awesome leftist? Not so much.

Now, I'm not saying that I completely get Che, and wouldn't describe myself as his biggest fan. But I'm also not wearing his image on a t-shirt.

[Ocean Seal]

It wasn't that which annoyed me. It was that they had pics of Che, Malcolm X and others everywhere. It would be like us having pics of Obama and Clinton plastered all over.
I'm pretty sure we have a lot of pictures of Obama here, although for completely different reasons.

[ed miliband]

It's more like political hipsters don't get Che. If you're an actual revolutionary who uses him as a symbol? Fine. If you're some stoner kid who thinks that Obama is an awesome leftist? Not so much.

Now, I'm not saying that I completely get Che, and wouldn't describe myself as his biggest fan. But I'm also not wearing his image on a t-shirt.

no but... there is nothing whatsoever "hipster" about che. no "hipster" in the world would dig che; sweeping statement, but true.

likewise, there is nothing "hipster" about democratic underground.

[statichaos]

no but... there is nothing whatsoever "hipster" about che. no "hipster" in the world would dig che; sweeping statement, but true.

likewise, there is nothing "hipster" about democratic underground.

I disagree strongly. I've seen his visage on the walls of several apartments in Silverlake and Venice Beach, next to leaflets for bands that I'd never heard of and various kitschy posters. But I understand that "anecdote" is not necessarily the singular form of "data".

[Flying Purple People Eater]

They have a picture of Marx for choice in the avatar selection.

[Rugged Collectivist]

well uh not a huge fan of DU or anything but how is that any different from the idea behind revleft and oi. it's a forum for liberals, not for us/conservatives to get our kicks off trolling liberals

Having different views doesn't automatically make you a troll though. And at least we have OI. We only let socdems and objectivist types in (and I guess religious zealots if they can keep their sexism in check) but that's more then the "democractic" "underground" can say.

Look


Democratic Underground is not intended to be a platform for kooks and crackpots peddling paranoid fantasies with little or no basis in factWhat a bunch of pompous assholes! At least revleft lets "kooks and crackpots" on. We'll criticize them mercilessly, but at least they can have their say. Maybe we'll even love them, like avanti.

So we've established that they're far from "democratic" (which is wholly unsurprising when you consider that they support a party that couldn't possibly give less of a fuck about democracy) but what's with the "underground"? They straight up say not to advocate violence or anything illegal. They don't need to be underground. They're about as underground as a branch of the college democrats.

[Yuppie Grinder]

To be fair, I'd take a stand that most Democrats are liberal in name only.h


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Why is posting pictures like any more acceptable than posting pictures of pickaninnies? The resentment I see on here towards the white working poor is elitist, anti-worker, and reactionary.

[GPDP]

Have you tried infiltrating while keeping a low profile initially, but subtly dropping criticisms of the Democrats from the left? Do they ban you for criticizing Democrats on DU?

[#FF0000]

literally everything on the internet is a waste of time. especially this.

[Rugged Collectivist]

literally everything on the internet is a waste of time. especially this.

So reading a book on Marxists.org is a waste of time, but reading it at the library isn't?

[#FF0000]

yes