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Os Cangaceiros
23rd November 2012, 05:15
I'm watching this movie right now. I hadn't seen it in quite a few years, forgot how good it was.

I like when Michael Corleone (Al Pacino) comes back and cleans house like Mob Stalin, lol. Just decimates the other Mafia families and then stares his wife right in the face and denies everything! No honey, I had nothing to do with the mass murder of a bunch of people, all of which happened to be my personal enemies!

The whole mythological portrayal of the Mafia is kind of interesting, like Don Corleone's opposition to narcotics trafficking. In reality all of the Mafia families were involved in narcotics trafficking from the very beginning, there was no moral objection to dealing drugs (although because of the sentencing guidelines for drug offenses, Mafia leaders demanded that anyone who chose to become involved in drugs not drag the Mafia families into it if they got busted).

It must've been this portrayal of the Mafia as an organization which had a code of ethics and honor that made the movie very popular among the real Mafia when it was released in the 70's.

Prometeo liberado
23rd November 2012, 07:22
The whole mythological portrayal of this post being anything but a adolescent attempt at baiting is just boring. And your analysis is lacking even more. In the movie one family does have a moral objection to drugs saying that they would keep it in the "coloured neighborhoods. They have no souls." Not you may call morals but morals none the less.
You should have gone with how this movie transformed and inspired regular street thugs(Hells Angels, Vice Lords) to organize. Thus forever having changed the landscape of American crime. But seeing as how you thouhgt that you would try your hand at being cute you put this dribble out. So you choose intead to beat the long dead Stalin horse? Way to to aim for the bottom.

Os Cangaceiros
23rd November 2012, 19:26
The whole mythological portrayal of this post being anything but a adolescent attempt at baiting is just boring. And your analysis is lacking even more. In the movie one family does have a moral objection to drugs saying that they would keep it in the "coloured neighborhoods. They have no souls." Not you may call morals but morals none the less.

No, I said that in the movie there was a definite moral code when it came to drugs (for some). In real life there definitely wasn't. The Mafia was involved in the large-scale import of heroin since the mid-1950's, when it started to become "big". It was orchestrated by the founder of the modern Mafia (Lucky Luciano) and all the Mafia families got in on it.


You should have gone with how this movie transformed and inspired regular street thugs(Hells Angels, Vice Lords) to organize. Thus forever having changed the landscape of American crime. But seeing as how you thouhgt that you would try your hand at being cute you put this dribble out. So you choose intead to beat the long dead Stalin horse? Way to to aim for the bottom.

Whoa dude, chill. I don't know why you always get so worked up over any mention of the ubiquitous Stalin on this website. :sleep:

I didn't know about the Hells Angels or the Vice Lords organizing because of the Godfather. Perhaps you'd like to elaborate.

Prometeo liberado
24th November 2012, 04:24
Whoa dude, chill. I don't know why you always get so worked up over any mention of the ubiquitous Stalin on this website.

I don't know why y'all feel the need to do the Stalin circle jerk thing in place of decent Marxist analysis. When you all stop cluttering up the threads with that unoriginal shite then I will to. Boring isn't it?


I didn't know about the Hells Angels or the Vice Lords organizing because of the Godfather. Perhaps you'd like to elaborate.

Read Sonny Bargers auto-biography, he basically says the GF was the turning point for the club to get it's shit together and start TCB. Also Willie Lloyd of the Vice Lords has stated that he and his lieutenants were greatly inspired by the Corleone Family( I have an article somewhere I'm trying to find). Shit, Cocaine Queen Griselda Blanco even named her son Michael Corleone Blanco.

statichaos
25th November 2012, 23:18
It's worth remembering that Coppola intended The Godfather to be an indictment of the capitalist system, showing the politicians and police as hypocrites at best for going after the families when the families were simply doing their best to achieve the American dream. He even states it openly in the first line of the film, with Bonasera's line "I believe in America". Well, yes, Bonasera does believe in America. However, the American system of justice has failed him, and so he's fallen back on family and tradition, two other oft-ballyhooed aspects of American culture.

Michael Corelone's entire story arc is remarkable not for how he seems to give up on the American dream, but rather for the seeming inevitability of his fall as he lives up to it.