Fav weapon

[ComradeRed]

k, i was speaking with my friends about che, and one asked,"what weapons did che use?" I was dumbfounded, i didn't know. HELP! thx comrades.

[Soviet power supreme]

Sniper rifle and pistol were his favourite I think.

[Ortega]

In Bolivia, he carried an M-1 Carbine. I shot one the other day - nice guns...

[ComradeRed]

Thx comrades, that really hepls me out a lot!

[bluerev002]

I think he used his own invention, the Molotov coctail launcher a lot.

[Lacrimi de Chiciură]

How many men did he kill in battle?

[DeadMan]

Home made molatov cocktail launcher? Wow, any pictures or plans of this thing? I'd like to see it. I didn't know he made his own weapons...that's so...a thing he would do :D .

DeadMan.

[ComradeRed]

I've seen a pic, it looks like a crossbow, except it is maybe 4-5 feet long. It hurls molotov cocktails instead of bolts.

[LuZhiming]

Words

[ComradeRed]

im sorry, ive got adhd. let me take it frame by frame on the specifications of the weapon. What che did was he took a rifle and took off the hammer. The replaced this with a lever mechanism that released a 'bow'. He the extended the barel by about 2x. He put a 'bow' at the end of the barrel. He attached 'bow strings' from the hammer to the tips of the bow. He attatched to the barrel a half pipe. Launching malaotiv cocktalis !

[Hate Is Art]

wow i so want one of those, DIE EVIL SQUIRRELS MuAhAhahAHAHA

[commieboy]

everyone knows that che's favorite weapon was the M1 carbine...every picture i see of him he has his M1...or his molotov launcher....but i thought he invented the one where you take a shotgun and replace the lead shot with felt then a stick and a grenade or cocktail.

[DeadMan]

Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2003, 12:32 PM
everyone knows that che's favorite weapon was the M1 carbine...every picture i see of him he has his M1...or his molotov launcher....but i thought he invented the one where you take a shotgun and replace the lead shot with felt then a stick and a grenade or cocktail.
So, basically a grenage launcher but instead of a grenade it's a MC... nice.

DeadMan.

[commieboy]

there are plans on how to make it in "Guerilla warfare" im not sure what the page number is...

[Soviet power supreme]

I think he used his own invention, the Molotov coctail launcher a lot.

That must be stupidiest gun I have ever heard.
1.It is hard to use
2.It would be inaccurate
3.You cant carry many MC in jungle.

[FistFullOfSteel]

Che used all sorts of weapons,not only who are showned on pics...

[dannie]

but being able to shoot molotov cocktails can be far mor effective then just throwing them

[Lacrimi de Chiciură]

How many men did he kill in battle?

[DeadMan]

Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2003, 10:45 PM
How many men did he kill in battle?
Good question! An answer.

DeadMan.

[ComradeRed]

I don't believe there is an actual count. I mean Che didn't write in his diary "well, today i killed x people". The dead cannot tell, and the casualty count doesn't say " fidel killed y, che killed z, etc.".

[FistFullOfSteel]

omg


He killed those who were necessary to be killed


why do you guys wanna know how many he killed?

[Jesus Sanchez]

I thought he used an M1-maybe even an-M2 Grand.

[Droes lee]

maybe a sks, m1 and so on
http://flag.blackened.net/kara/political/che/pictures/che09.jpg

[Aky]

What kind of discussion is this? Seriously, you should consider finding more relevant subjects than discussing what firearm Che had as a favorite. I really doubt he enjoyed taking the lives of anybody, and anyone who speaks of weapons with honor have never used one, at least not killed anyone. This is just pathetic.

[Lacrimi de Chiciură]

Revolution comes with violence

[DeadMan]

Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2003, 11:19 AM
What kind of discussion is this? Seriously, you should consider finding more relevant subjects than discussing what firearm Che had as a favorite. I really doubt he enjoyed taking the lives of anybody, and anyone who speaks of weapons with honor have never used one, at least not killed anyone. This is just pathetic.
No. We simply want to know what kind of gun and maybe a kill count? That doesn't change our opinions on Che/Fidel/anybody and if it does then you obviously didn't beleive in it at all. I think it's a simple discussion that doesn't have any political value. We just wanted to know what guns he used. Big deal.

DeadMan.

[bluerev002]

an exerpt from "Guerrilla Warfare" it has the way the gun is made, and what its best used for. ;)


"By night a direct attack is always preferable. It is possible to capture an encapment if ther is enough drive and necessary presence of mind and if the risks are not excesive.

An encierclement requires waiting and taking covert, closing in steadly on the enemy, tryingng to harrass him in every way, and, avove all, triying to force him by fire to come out. Whe the circle has been close to the short range, the 'Molotov Cocktail' is a weapon of extraordinary effectiveness. Before arriving at a range for teh 'cocktail,' shotguns with a special charege can be employed. These arms, chritendn in our war with the name of 'M-16' consisnt of a 16-caliber sawed-off shotgun with a pair of legs added in such a way that with the bhutt of hte gun they form a tripod. Teh weapno will thus be mounted at an angle of about 45 degrees; this can be varied by movintg the legs back and forth. It is loaded with an open shell from which all shots have been removed. A cylinder stick extending from the muzxzl of the gun is used sas the projectile. A bottle of gasoline ersgin on a rubber base is placed on the end of the stick. Thi9s apparatus will fire the burinnig bottle a hundered meters or more with a fairly high degreee of accuracy. This is an ideal weapon for encirclements whtne the enemy has many wooden or inflamable mateiral construcions; also for firing against tanks in hilly country."

[Lacrimi de Chiciură]

I can hardly imagine what it would be like to be shooting a molotov launcher into the enemy tanks and buildings... :blink: anyone here have expierience with moltovs?

[Mike Fakelastname]

Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2003, 03:12 PM
I can hardly imagine what it would be like to be shooting a molotov launcher into the enemy tanks and buildings... :blink: anyone here have expierience with moltovs?
I threw one once. It was in an empty parking lot, heh. They're pretty cool, you just have to be super careful because it's gas in there, not just lighter fluid or something. I'll tell you one thing, they're louder and more firey than you would think...

[DeadMan]

And there a little harder to put out then most poeple would think. Even tho it is suppose to be gas, you can easy replace with with a gas/oil/liquid soap mixture to create some homemade napalm.

DeadMan.

[nezvanova]

i hate to be a bit of a downer...but be careful with what you guys say, cause the stupid patriot act may take it as an act of terrorism if you are talking about how to make napalm...

[LuZhiming]

Why would you want to make napalm? Tortorous weapons as such should not be used. :angry:

[Deniz Gezmis]

I didn't bother reading the thread, But while serving the Cuban revolution in the Serria Miestra he made his own crossbow, I've also seen him shooting a Lugar pistol.

[hazard]

im sure someone has already said this, but mine is the pen

I carry like three or four, or maybe five at a time. got three in my jacket. one in my shirt. two in my briefcase. about five in my car.

one is an explosive, three are single shot guns, and, just joking.

ALL YOU PEN DEVILS KNOW DA TRIAL WAS VILE!

[Jesus Sanchez]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2003, 12:18 PM
Why would you want to make napalm? Tortorous weapons as such should not be used. :angry:
Napalm can be used to kill large weeds. In the Aussie outback there are massive (taller than a man) weeds with large thorns that kills live stock when they walk into it . Farmers then make napalm (cos it is so easy) and kill the weeds.

By the way, can an aussie be convicted of the paitriot act?

[LuZhiming]

Originally posted by El Grande of [email protected] 30 2003, 04:43 AM
Napalm can be used to kill large weeds. In the Aussie outback there are massive (taller than a man) weeds with large thorns that kills live stock when they walk into it . Farmers then make napalm (cos it is so easy) and kill the weeds.

By the way, can an aussie be convicted of the paitriot act?
:D Hmm, very interesting. Thanks for the info. Although it seems I may be dragging this off topic, heh.

[dannie]

in congo they used belgian FN fal

http://remtek.com/arms/fn/falmap1.jpg

[Rastaman]

i like explosives.. i'm kinda what some may call pyromaniac.. there is an upgraded form of molotov. It was invented by some queer chemistry student.. its cool though made a couple and threw them around in parking lots and unused country roads.. The upgraded form is safer and more effective. It uses sugar.. i'll post the plan when i find it again..

[Soviet power supreme]

What does it matter what gun Che used.
Whatever he used is now old one.Dont use the same what he used.Perhaps AK-74 would be best buy thesedays.

[Rastaman]

for u people who want to change the world and have some money: Arms dealer (http://www.armalite.com)

[DeadMan]

The AK-47 is by far one of the best guns invented in the century. Not only is it strong, and effective, but it can fire underwater, in mud, in ice conditions, in jungles, basically in any climate this world has thrown at it. Even tho it does jam up quiet often and the recoil on it is horrible (its very powerful and it's recoil is a great deal to over come at first). Soldiers in Vietnam were told to give up there M-16 Vietnam version for AK-47 in the field as they we're more accurate and more powerful then the M-16.

The newer versions are more accurate, less recoil and jam alot less. And as an added bonus they are cheap to make/repair/operate.

DeadMan.

PS: I read a guns book about a year ago. Where I got my information from.

[Droes lee]

maybe, he had a Ak but the chanse is small. they used long rifles a lot more. maybe after the revolution,

[Monty Cantsin]

i saw a pic of him and he had a machine gun. It was in Cuba in the mountains.

[Soviet power supreme]

The AK-47 is by far one of the best guns invented in the century.

Tell that to the American movie and series makers.
Commies always miss with that gun. :D

[DeadMan]

Originally posted by Soviet power [email protected] 30 2003, 07:55 PM

The AK-47 is by far one of the best guns invented in the century.

Tell that to the American movie and series makers.
Commies always miss with that gun. :D
Pro-American propagandha of course <_< . I don&#39;t think they would admit that soldiers gave up their M-16 for AKs :P .

DeadMan.

[ComradeRobertRiley]

ive only ever fired an air pistol, id live to shoot with a real gun.

[DeadMan]

Originally posted by [email protected] 31 2003, 10:04 AM
ive only ever fired an air pistol, id live to shoot with a real gun.
Real guns are awesome to shoot, if your not trying to kill for fun. I shoot at trees and or targets. I usually shoot a .22 or .222 caliber gun. Your basic hunting rifle from way back when :P . Just go to a firing range and rent a gun to shoot.

DeadMan.

[Rastaman]

isnt the ak 74 an improvment of the 47?

im 15 so that won&#39;t work deadman..

[Soviet power supreme]

I have shoot with .357 revolver and shotgun.Thye were great.I hit 1 out 5 when I shot those clay plates with shotgun.Yes 74 is 47&#39;s improvement.

[Rastaman]

anyone hav pics to 74?

[DeadMan]

The AK74 is basically an all black steel AK47 with newer updates, bigger clip, a hell of alot more accurate too.

http://military.miem.edu.ru/edufree/guns/ak74/ak74_5.gif

If you&#39;re 15, you shouldn&#39;t be allowed to fire an airgun legally, that&#39;s why I figured you were old enough to rent a gun. Doesn&#39;t your dad hunt? That&#39;s where I got my guns/ammo.

DeadMan.

[Rastaman]

I don&#39;t like rules of a government that doesn&#39;t represent me... ;) by the way who makes them (aks)? is there a name or something? My dad doesn&#39;t hunt.. but my friends dad is swiss.. i&#39;ve shot a tree before hehe...
damn they should make 74s with that brown wood imitation.. that would look sweet.

[Soviet power supreme]

The inventor&#39;s name was kalashnikov and most people call these aks with that name.Automatic karbine 47 is just used by english spoken people.It is a good old soviet product but thesedays there are lot of copiers.The Russians say that their guns are crap and only Russian made are good.

[Rastaman]

can u buy them somewhere?

[commieboy]

okay i&#39;ve checked pictures of che and others in the cuban revolution and these are the main weapons used after the grandma landing....

M1 Garand
M1 carbine
FN FAL
Mosin Nagant91/30
Mosin Nagant M38
Mosin Nagant M44
Mauser
AK-47 (Have not seen any pictures)
Colt 1911 .45
Makarov 9X19mm
Luger

I&#39;ve seen one bazooka, some molotov cocktails, dynomite, grenades, and simple ammo cans full of gun powder and a fuse...

You see, the Cuban revolution wasn&#39;t communist while they were fighting so they didn&#39;t get alot of Soviet weapons..

Che is seen using or holding
Makarov 9X19mm
M1 Carbine
Colt 1911 .45
Unknown sniper rifle
MC launcher....


Have you guys seen any others?

[Rastaman]

cool.. do you have pics to the above?
any way i still need to know where u can buy an ak74...

[commieboy]

you&#39;d be one of the luckiest bastards on earth to get your hands on an original AK-74 from the USSR....most of them are in Afghanistan...these days the AK-74 varients come from Romania and China...the Romanian is called an SAR-2.


and a link to AK-74s
http://gunsamerica.com/search.cgi

[DeadMan]

But no adays with the Patriot Act it&#39;s a ***** (or so I&#39;ve heard) to get your hands on good full auto weapons without going the whole 9 yards for it or paying extreme prices. If you want guns for cheap move to third world countries. They always seem to have guns lying everywhere.

Oh...yah. http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976292398.htm That gun is badass. Saw a demo of it on TLC.

DeadMan.

[nezvanova]

I also read that he had a Makarov Pistol. As far as I know, that was after the revolution. and didn&#39;t castro give all the commanding officors revolvers or something right?

[commieboy]

all the commanders had either recovered or captured colt 1911s, or the soviet Makarovs

[Rastaman]

well i live in germany they don&#39;t have any patriot fuck around here...


thats where the action is
Ak74s (http://gunsamerica.com/search.cgi?lowprice=0&highprice=99999999&age=0&uid=&words=ak+74&state=All)

u can get an ak building kit&#33;&#33; considered non gun (in current state)

deadman, i dont like the design on the berret gun

[Rastaman]

here another cool link and info about kalashnikov

All made by Kalashnikov:

Assault Rifles

AK-47 Assault Rifle
AK-101 Assault Rifle
AK-102 Small-Size Assault Rifle
AK-103 Assault Rifle
AK-104 Small-Size Assault Rifle
AK-105 Small-Size Assault Rifle
AKS-74 Assault Rifle
Experimental Assault Rifle outfitted with balanced automatic system (1964)
Experimental Assault Rifle with sliding barrel (1978)
AK-74M Modernized Assault Rifle
AKS-74U Shorty Assault Rifle
AKS-74U Shorty Assault Rifle

Machine Guns

RPK Light Machine Gun
RPKS-74 Light Machine Gun with Folding Butt
RPK-74N2 Light Machine Gun (1974)
PK General-Purpose Machine Gun (1961)
PK General-Purpose Machine Gun on Samozhenkov design Mount (1961)
PKM Modernized General-Purpose Machine Gun (1969)
PKSMN General-Purpose Machine Gun on Stepanov design Mount (1969)
PKT Tank Machine Gun (1962)
PKB Armored Personnel Carrier Machine Gun (1962)
PKMB Modernized Armored Personnel Carrier Machine Gun

Self-Loading Carbines

Experimental Self-Loading Carbine (1944)
SK Experimental Self-Loading Carbine No.3 (1945)
Experimental Self-Loading Sniper Rifle (1959)
Experimental Sniper Rifle

Pistol-Machineguns


Test Model. 1942.
Test Model. 1947. (Model 1)
Test Model. 1947. (Model 2)
PPL. Test Model.

Automatic Pistols

Experimental Automatic Pistol (1950)
Experimental Automatic Pistol (1951)

Hunting Carbines

Saiga Self-Loading Hunting Carbine (1974)
Saiga 7.62-01 Self-Loading Hunting Carbine
Saiga 5.6S Self-Loading Hunting Carbine
Saiga 308 Self-Loading Hunting Carbine
Saiga 410K Smoothbore Self-Loading Hunting Carbine
Saiga 20K Smoothbore Self-Loading Hunting Carbine
Saiga 4 Self-Loading Hunting Carbine
Saiga 5.6 Self-Loading Hunting Carbine with PO4x34 optical hunting sight
Saiga 410 Smoothbore Self-Loading Hunting Carbine
Saiga 410S Smoothbore Self-Loading Hunting Carbine
Saiga 20 Smoothbore Self-Loading Hunting Carbine
Saiga 20S Smoothbore Self-Loading Hunting Carbine
Vepr Self-Loading Hunting Carbine with PO5x30 optical sight

Magazines

Large Capacity Magazines
Coupled Magazines
Magazines for 5.45 Assault Rifles

Bayonets & Knives

Bayonet-Knives for Assault Rifles
Hunting Knives


Kalashnikovs page (http://kalashnikov.guns.ru)

[ComradeRobertRiley]

AK-74 Assault rifle
Developed: 1974
Caliber: 5.45mm
Cartridge: 5.45x39
Magazine capacity: 30
Loaded weight: 3,600g
Killing range: 1,350m


Thats some range&#33;

[DeadMan]

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2004, 11:32 AM
AK-74 Assault rifle
Developed: 1974
Caliber: 5.45mm
Cartridge: 5.45x39
Magazine capacity: 30
Loaded weight: 3,600g
Killing range: 1,350m


Thats some range&#33;
The AK&#39;s are some fancy weaponery that&#39;s for sure. I saw one that was belt driven once. I don&#39;t know if it was a modified version or a real version. Can&#39;t find a pic with the name either :angry: .

DeadMan.

[Soviet power supreme]

magazine capacity 30?
Well take a look at this baby
http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/photos/ak-mag100.jpg
:D

[DeadMan]

Originally posted by Soviet power [email protected] 3 2004, 06:03 PM
magazine capacity 30?
Well take a look at this baby
http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/photos/ak-mag100.jpg
:D
That&#39;s a 100 clip one, I beleive.

DeadMan.

[Soviet power supreme]

Yes it it 100 clip.I found it on Rastaman&#39;s link.Like this one
http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/images/1741.gif

[commieboy]

do any of you guys actually own guns?

[FistFullOfSteel]

no,why should i?its illegal here

[DeadMan]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2004, 10:53 AM
do any of you guys actually own guns?
I am not of legal age to own guns. But my father does and I use them anytime I feel like it, which isn&#39;t that offen cause like everything, shooting guns gets boring.

DeadMan.

[commieboy]

Hugo...where do you live?

[FistFullOfSteel]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2004, 08:56 PM
Hugo...where do you live?
sweden


ogo

[commieboy]

Really?

I haven&#39;t ever heard of Swedish gun restrictions....so is it totally illegal to own guns in sweden?

[Eastside Revolt]

Fav weapon - Mind <_<

[DeadMan]

Fav weapon = A smile, a hand, a mind and a Glock in my belt just in case I can&#39;t charm, shake or think myself out of a situation.

DeadMan.

[Tiki Man]

I&#39;ve fired a Makarov.

(wow to the 100 U shaped clip&#33;)

I find myself liking the Fallschirmjagergewehr 42 out of all weapons. It&#39;s magazine is placed to the left of the handle.
FG42 (http://www.geocities.com/pentagon/2833/heer/infantry/fg42/fg42.html)

[FistFullOfSteel]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2004, 10:30 PM
Really?

I haven&#39;t ever heard of Swedish gun restrictions....so is it totally illegal to own guns in sweden?
u cant own a m16.. only hunting rifles and stuff like that are legal

the only ones who carries weapons are the cops,criminals etc

[Soviet power supreme]

I find myself liking the Fallschirmjagergewehr 42 out of all weapons. It&#39;s magazine is placed to the left of the handle.
FG42

What about Sten gun?
http://www.canuck.freehosting.net/stenmkii.gif

[raisethefist]

hugo, Inte ens om du har licens?
Är du säker på det?
förresten ,jag är också från sverige&#33; ;)

Hugo, not even with license?
Are you shore?

[Soviet power supreme]

Jaa det är samma här i Finland.Bara jakt geväret och hagelgevär är tillåten, om du har licensen.

Men jag tycker att det är möjligt att ha andra vapen om du skjötä bara skjutbana.

[DeadMan]

I liek the FG42. Too bad it&#39;s rare as hell and it&#39;s old as hell too. It can fire it&#39;s 20 round clip in what I think is 3 seconds. The Sten was a cheap Brit gun they mass produced, like the Grease gun of the State. If you think I&#39;m trying to diss the Sten, remember that Canada used them too haha.

DeadMan.

[commieboy]

Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2004, 12:35 PM

u cant own a m16.. only hunting rifles and stuff like that are legal

the only ones who carries weapons are the cops,criminals etc
M16s are for the crazy militia Assholes who cant even get them they&#39;re stuck with cheap knock-offs.....

I dont know if my rifles would be considered hunting, they&#39;re all military surplus ones, but no like Uzis or M16s the only semi-auto rifles i have are SKS rifles from Russia and Yugoslavia except for my shotgun..

[DeadMan]

I beleive for a rifle to be classed hunting, it must be a bolt-action or 1 shot loaders. The .22 I have is mad old school and I must load it every shot (very WEAK gun too).

DeadMan.

[commieboy]

yeah, my dad bought me a .22 just like that for christmas...it&#39;s fun to shoot man...but the thing is like from 1955.....

.22s are fun, and easy to learn the fundementals of guns...

[MysticArcher]

this seems to have become what everyone&#39;s favorite weapon is, so I&#39;ll add my opinion

as a blacksmith I hate guns, I prefer a bow if I want a ranged weapon

a Chinese broadsword or a nice leaf shaped dagger are my favorites

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

The Bren(Sten?) is an old SMG. I wouldn&#39;t use it if I had something better.

For pistols you can&#39;t beat the glock. 9mm is more powerful than most people think, plus it&#39;s fairly common.
For something with more punch I&#39;d go for a Smith & Wesson .44 Magnum.
Unlike the Desert Eagle this baby won&#39;t jam. :P

"This is the most powerful handgun in the world. It could blow your head clean off" :lol:

I would definately go for a pump action or semi-auto shotgun with at least 7 rounds capacity.

Bolt action rifles are the best for sniping purposes. They have better round alignment in the breech than magazine-fed rifles. They&#39;re also more reliable.

For SMGs I would go for an Uzi, but I would do my best to get hold of this (http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg08-e.htm)

For assault rifles it&#39;s the old favourite, the AK-47, with the possibility of the SA-80 or M16 with M203 GL in urban situations. I would also try to get the stoner rifle (Basically an M4a1 which fires AK Rounds)
It would also be nice to get hold of an AK with an M203 GL.

Although most heavy weapons are impractical for the revolutionary, I would also recommend the RPG-7 (One of the most common anti-tank weapons in the world)

Apart from that, stick to claymores and grenades.

And now for blades. For general purposes I would go for a long, sharp dagger with brass knuckles, so I have the option of punching or stabbing/slashing.
If I wanted to do some serious disembowelling, I would go for either a very sharp cavalry sabre with a basket hilt (Same reasons as for dagger)
Either that or a Katana/Washikazi combination, they are wickedly sharp and very strong.

[Rastaman]

i like chinese stars.. i mean i&#39;ve never thrown or even touched one, but if you can do what the people at hollywood can (which i doubt) it would be cool.

for revolutionaries i&#39;d have to say that the ak47 is cheap and the standard. You can buy it in almost every asian country for less than 20&#036; if you know where too look. Ammo is pretty cheap too.

its this thing im talking about: AK47 (http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/models/ka50.html)

[Soviet power supreme]

And now for blades. For general purposes I would go for a long, sharp dagger with brass knuckles, so I have the option of punching or stabbing/slashing.
If I wanted to do some serious disembowelling, I would go for either a very sharp cavalry sabre with a basket hilt (Same reasons as for dagger)
Either that or a Katana/Washikazi combination, they are wickedly sharp and very strong.

Well I wouldnt use swords.I would rather use daggers,knives,nunchakus,sais etc.Something that is small enough to carry as a secondary weapon.But then again I would prefer bayonet,butt-stock or hand-hand in close combat.


i like chinese stars.. i mean i&#39;ve never thrown or even touched one, but if you can do what the people at hollywood can (which i doubt) it would be cool.

Stars are pretty handy but I would use throwing knives.

[Hiero]

i like sticks. Sticks are cool

[commieboy]

yeah man, go robin hood on their asses&#33;

Man, realistically i think the best weapon would be an AK-47 clone, or an SKS....


And who the fuck said a stoner was in 7.62X39mm? Last time i checked it was a .223 sniping weapon for law enforcment?

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

It was made by the same person,(Eugene Stoner) I forgot the weapon&#39;s exact name

This is what I was talking about. (http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/2100/2138.htm)


Well I wouldnt use swords.I would rather use daggers,knives,nunchakus,sais etc.Something that is small enough to carry as a secondary weapon.But then again I would prefer bayonet,butt-stock or hand-hand in close combat.

Nunchakas are worthless toys if you don&#39;t know how to use them. Someone once tried to use nunchakus on my uncle while he was holding a cricket bat. He just wacked them over the head.
I&#39;d use a light sword like the cavalry sabre or the Daisho (A Katana/Washikazi(sp?) combination) for the reach it gives. If you&#39;re holding a knife (Even if it&#39;s pretty long) and your opponent has a fixed bayonet, you&#39;re screwed.

-NoX

[commieboy]

wow.... i never knew about that rifle....and i&#39;m a member of the www.securityarms.com community... damn..

[sickofyou]

îwanna ray~»>gun&#33;?

or somthing from the Jetson&#39;s&#33;³&#33;²&#33;¹&#33;


...but i&#39;ll take my sawed off hockey stick and crackk you in tha head <_<
;(no im really gettin a Bazooka. sick

[Hate Is Art]

I want a portable telsa coil.

[dannie]

http://www.cdmag.com/articles/027/167/shot5big.jpg

this i want to be

[Ralph]

cool, what is it?

[dannie]

it&#39;s a teslatrooper (c&c games), it shoots electric beams out of its arms (hit someone, instant death, hit a tank three times or so, tank explodes :P

[SittingBull47]

molatov cocktail launcher?

I know he invented a crossbow-type weapon that shot cans of gunpowder. They were called &#39;Sputniks&#39;. Is this what your talking about or did he use Molatov&#39;s alot too?

I didn&#39;t know he used the M1 alot, that&#39;s some cool information. I think he also used the tommy gun pretty much too.

[bunk]

no in guerrilla warfare he drew a diagram, it&#39;s a shotgun with a molotov cocktail on a stick sticking out of the barrel.
As for weapons i would probably want a AK-107 or AK-108 they have grenade launchers as well. Or even the new AN-94.
Whoever said SA80 i would seriously not go there.

[MiDnIgHtMaRaUdEr]

I think he would be quite fond of the artificial gamma ray burster....

[LightningCount]

whoever said AK-47&#39;s jam alot what are you on? The AK-74 has less recoil but Kalashnikov himself say they should of stuck with the higher caliber round thats has to say something AK-47 forever&#33;&#33;.Oh yeah you guys don&#39;t think Che and other&#39;s had AK&#39;s what with them being involved with the Soviet Union later on.One would think that they had to have a few crates of shiny new Ak&#39;s delivered, I mean If they had russian Missiles.

[XianType56]

See what lighting count said&#33;? Exactly that. AK&#39;s don&#39;t jam and when they DO it&#39;s RARE. They can over heat as with any full auto, and the 74 is NOT an "improvement" it&#39;s merely a drop in caliber which is ignorant. Judging by the fact russia was co-operative with Cuba in the 60&#39;s Che probably did have an AK before his death.