Insult the above user

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

^

[Ostrinski]

You're a waste of bandwidth

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Your new name sucks and Brospierre was a way more likable name,bastard!

[Igor]

you're a gravedigger of the revolution and a Dutchman at that

[Omsk]

You are among the least knowledgable ultra-leftists here, that's quite something.

[Comrade Samuel]

Your posts are too damn long, I occasionally choose not to read them out of lack of time/interest

(how could this thread possibly go wrong?)

[the last donut of the night]

Your posts are too damn long, I occasionally choose not to read them out of lack of time/interest

(how could this thread possibly go wrong?)

u shit ugly

[Delenda Carthago]

you mothafucka you

[Prometeo liberado]

I would rather sit through a week long Zizek symposium than have to read all your posts in order to waste my time mothaf***'n you.


(See what I did there? An insult without being insulting);)

[#FF0000]

u dumb

[Ostrinski]

You have subpar grammar skills.

[Let's Get Free]

You don't deserve to be insulted by me.

[hatzel]

Your name doesn't even begin to correspond with your politics.

[Ostrinski]

religious weirdo

[#FF0000]

you are from kentucky dude

[Let's Get Free]

I do not care much for your avatar.

[Art Vandelay]

Fuck you!....loser...Did I do it right?

[ComradeGrant]

You're an insecure bastard

[Dennis the 'Bloody Peasant']

Takes one to know one

[Flying Purple People Eater]

Enjoy the mud.

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Bananas are revisionist and a danger to socialist Albania!

[Omsk]

Stop turning everything into cheap comedy. If you don't stop, we will send you to vacation.

[hatzel]

This one's sooooo easy I'd feel lazy if I even bothered...

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

I agree with everything tradeunionsupporter said about you.

[ВАЛТЕР]

You're an enemy of the people and a wrecker.

[BOZG]

Your mother should have swallowed you instead.

[Ostrinski]

Your avatar is a nutsack with a smiley face. That is all.

[BOZG]

Your avatar is a nutsack with a smiley face. That is all.

Your avatar isn't my nutsack. That is all.

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

You're a post, post, post revolutionary dick tard.

[BOZG]

You're a post, post, post revolutionary dick tard.

Like who are you anyway? Nobody has ever heard of you.

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

I'm the motherfucker who called you on your shit. Your stinky, uninteresting, and all around inconsequential shit.

[Omsk]

Your a nobody, 17 posts? I can do better when i'm drunk.

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

You posting more when drunk does explain your excessive amount of commas and horrible grammar.
Your a nobody?
Really your?

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

Your a nobody, 17 posts? I can do better when i'm drunk.
Newer doesn't mean better old man. Just because you've been ass-licking the mods for the past 30 years doesn't mean you're a productive member of society, you asinine little *****. And when i say *****, i mean the non offensive prison variety

edit: Dear user above,
You're a drugged out filthy dutch cheese monger. After you smoke yourself retarded, send your king a message for me. Tell him "kill yourself and the rest of your degenerate quasi germanic kinfolk."

(i'm really good at this)

[Art Vandelay]

Newer doesn't mean better old man. Just because you've been ass-licking the mods for the past 30 years doesn't mean you're a productive member of society, you asinine little *****. And when i say *****, i mean the non offensive prison variety

I`d kick your fucking ass, even though I`m not tough. Ooooohh sick burn. :cool:

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

9 milimeter is your dick size.

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

I`d kick your fucking ass, even though I`m not tough. Ooooohh sick burn. :cool:

Sure you'd kick it. Lightly exactly one time when my back's turned. After that, i'd make sure you could never walk (let alone kick) ever again:mad:

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

9 milimeter is your dick size.
Says the guy whose testes haven't even descended yet.!

[PC LOAD LETTER]

You can't be older than 14

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

You are not as funky as you think you are.

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

You can't be older than 14
And that oddly excites you doesn't it?
PS.
no

You are not as funky as you think you are.
And neither are you. NONE OF YOU ARE!

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

By your pathetic insults I can make out you're an anarchist.
Which is an insult in and of itself.

[Omsk]

English is not my first language, i can deform it if i want. And what's with the, "too legit to quit" ? Quit what, drugs?

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

By your pathetic insults I can make out you're an anarchist.
Which is an insult in and of itself.

NYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-Anarchocommunaltoad as he tore apart the time-space continuum in reaction to a weak insult spoken by a follower of an out dated philosophy.

[Omsk]

Your brain is out-dated you fly.

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

Shut up old man. Go back to your gentrified retirement home and wait for that phone call from your son THAT WILL NEVER COME!

[ВАЛТЕР]

You're just obnoxious.

[#FF0000]

u so dum

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

You're just obnoxious.
At least i'm entertaining you boring bastard


u so dum
ya flow is sickly (and not in the good way)

[hetz]

This thread

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

Is the shit. You. Fuck

[Art Vandelay]

Your namesake accurately describes you, you fucking creep.

Ps I don't mean anything I say in this thread, I love you all. Best thread ever, it's goo to let out some irrational anger at times.

Shit I'm drunk and the person I responded to did not post above me :(

[PC LOAD LETTER]

You're cool I can't really insult you.


Also, I'm drunk, too.

[A Revolutionary Tool]

I can't insult PC LOAD LETTER he's way too cool for me to insult, I wouldn't know what to say.

*EDIT*
Fuck you, you're drunk and I'm not. You also took my response you dick.

[roy]

^distinctly unbased

[A Revolutionary Tool]

Wtf does that even mean, it better not be a Lil B reference.

[BOZG]

Wtf does that even mean, it better not be a Lil B reference.

Lil' B? Is that what you call it?

[roy]

Wtf does that even mean, it better not be a Lil B reference.

:))))))

[Landsharks eat metal]

:))))))

What the fuck kind of smiley is that?!!

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

Go back into the sea you irrational doofus. Setting trashcans on fire and vandalizing Starbucks won't liberate anything.

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

You probably read Weekly Worker . . . and like it.

[Ostrinski]

I read Weekly Worker and like it. You probably don't read Weekly Worker and like it. Fool.

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

Get back in your god damned trailer you liver spotted crone.

[Jesus Saves Gretzky Scores]

Fuck off you stupid nincompoop.

I feel like this is every Revleft thread.

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

Fuck off you stupid nincompoop.

I feel like this is every Revleft thread.

Go to hell you shiny shit.

[Jesus Saves Gretzky Scores]

Go to hell you shiny shit.


Shiny shit, I like it.

Burn in a sack of excrement you flat footed pigeon.

[GoddessCleoLover]

This thread should be moved from chit chat to shit shat. I have disdained the notion of insulting the previous user in favor of insulting the entire thread.

[thriller]

This thread should be moved from chit chat to shit shat. I have disdained the notion of insulting the previous user in favor of insulting the entire thread.

You finished the Kessel Run in over 48 parsecs and it was a personal best for you.

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

I would tell you to kill yourself but i don't even think Satan should suffer from your presence.

[ВАЛТЕР]

You aren't very entertaining. Also, toads are nasty creatures.

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

Fuck you, fuck your brothel employed babushka, and fuck your crookedass alphabet.

[Caj]

I will let Marx himself insult you:


No one has, like Anarchocommunaltoad, verified to such a degree the truth of the Biblical axiom that no one is able to add an inch to their natural height. Placed by birth, connections and social accidents on a colossal pedestal, Anarchocommunaltoad always remained the same homunculus -- a malignant and distorted dwarf on top of a pyramid.

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

That would actually mean something if you weren't living in Minnesota .

[hetz]

Fuck you, fuck your brothel employed babushka, and fuck your crookedass alphabet.
:laugh:

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

:laugh:
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Landsharks eat metal]

Stop spamming up this thread, you fuckwad.

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

What are you gonna do, hold a sit in? Fuck off!

[Art Vandelay]

I like you :)

[Ostrinski]

You're fickle as balls.

Its ok so am I

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

You're fickle as balls.

Its ok so am I

Ostrinski.

[Art Vandelay]

You're fickle as balls.

Its ok so am I

I've never heard balls used as an adjective before.

[Caj]

You are Kautskyite scum

[Let's Get Free]

You're an ultra leftist swine.

[Questionable]

90% of the topics you start aren't for the sake of learning but are attempts to stir up shit over issues people have already talked about a thousand times.

[Mala Tha Testa]

Pinko! Has anyone used that one? Because I'm really going for originality.

[Rugged Collectivist]

Arby's doesn't suck. Go back to McDonald's where you belong you piece of shit.

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

Arby's tastes awful. Grow some taste buds!

edit: Bump

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmp.

[Rugged Collectivist]

You're probably fat IRL

[Questionable]

You wear skinny jeans.

[thriller]

You wear skinny jeans.

Your presence here is questionable.

[Drosophila]

You're a dingus.

For your health.

[Art Vandelay]

You used to be an M-L, that's an insult in and of itself.

[doesn't even make sense]

I bet you're a lightweight that only likes sugary drinks.

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

You're a non sequitur.

[Rugged Collectivist]

You're a toad. If I rubbed your stomach you couldn't even move.

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

1) Let me guess, you've been wanting to rub my stomach since i got here right? Keep your perdverted comments to yourself.

[Caj]

Your spelling is shit. Go fuck yourself.

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

Your spelling is shit. Go fuck yourself.


That would actually mean something if you weren't living in Minnesota .

.................................................. .................................................. .....

[ВАЛТЕР]

Your posts lack substance and are not very informative or useful. Nobody even likes you.

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

Your petty legion of doom is a pathetic collective of psychopaths and people afflicted with obsessive compulsive disorders.

P.S: Lenin was a douche.

[GoddessCleoLover]

Some of your posts seem to be troll posts.

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

You can't prove that...stupid:D

[thriller]

Most posts per thread for you: this one.

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

Most posts per thread for you: this one.

Ugghh what the fuck is wrong with your face?

[Caj]

I really hope they ban you soon.

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

Fuck you and FUCK MINNESOTA!

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

Toads are gross.

[GoddessCleoLover]

Kim Jong Il was a toad and the toad is a troll.

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

Toads are gross.
Juchists are gross.


Kim Jong Il was a toad and the toad is a troll.

Shut up shithead.

[Art Vandelay]

My fiance is not a juchist.

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

Your support of the outdated and reactionary practice of marriage makes me sick.

[Igor]

you're pretty much the worst forums poster at the moment

[GoddessCleoLover]

Methinks he is trolling the board. BTW is it pronounce eye-gore or ee-gore?

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

Methinks he is trolling the board. BTW is it pronounce eye-gore or ee-gore?

You piss and moan alot (serious mode engaged)(error)(error)(serious mode malfunctioning!)


you're pretty much the worst forums poster at the moment

And you wear a skirt (not sure if allowed to mention the scottish sheep problem)

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

Question: When did this thread become "Insult only Anarchocommunaltoad"?

Answer: When he merc'd it to death.

[GoddessCleoLover]

Smart enough to answer your own question but lack the impulse control to refrain from merc-ing the board.

[Avanti]

is afraid of the dark. hasn't made peace with his monster.

tragical.

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

You're the only drug addicted homeless person i know who has an internet connection.

edit: And you're not supposed to like every post!

[Agathor]

degenerate parasite

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

You're too insignificant to be noticed

P.S Your lameness caused the dinosaurs to go extinct

[Robespierres Neck]

Anarchism is flawed.

[Flying Purple People Eater]

Stalin is flawless.

Flawlessly EVIL THAT IS!

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

Stalin is flawless.

Flawlessly EVIL THAT IS!

WHOOP! Just kidding you suck.

[Robespierres Neck]

No, you.

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

no, you!

[Avanti]

now the thread died

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

Your grammar's awful (and slightly schizophrenic)

[Rugged Collectivist]

Stop insulting me motherfucker. I want other people's hate too you know.

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

I'm sorry dipshit. Everyone else please disregard this post.

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Implying we paid attention to the posts you made before that one.

@Rugged, You are a clinking, clanking, clattering collection of caliginous junk!

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

Implying we paid attention to the posts you made before that one.

@Rugged, You are a clinking, clanking, clattering collection of caliginous junk!

And you're a dirty dutchman ( i think, nobody really gives a shit about the Netherlands)

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

You and your georgian swamp stink should go jump off a cliff.

[BOZG]

You and your georgian swamp stink should go jump off a cliff.

Georgian swamp stink? That's not a nice way to talk about your mother.

[Igor]

And you wear a skirt (not sure if allowed to mention the scottish sheep problem)

that's an insult? :( way to enforce gender norms

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Georgian swamp stink? That's not a nice way to talk about your mother.

There are pubic lice with more wit and sophistication than you possess.

[BOZG]

There are pubic lice with more wit and sophistication than you possess.

You're such a fucking idiot that you managed to get chilli on your cock.

[Omsk]

Is that your saint Bronstein over there? He sure has a nice smile.

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

Is that your saint Bronstein over there? He sure has a nice smile.

You would clap loudly as Stalin defiled your mother before your very own eyes.

[Geiseric]

You're going to be the fat guy who dies first in the zombie apocalypse.

[Omsk]

Compared to you, Daft Punk is a great Trot.

[Il Medico]

^
L-LyFMCIpok

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

^
L-LyFMCIpok

Stog shagging sheep you skirt wearing, underpants avoidin' twit

[Art Vandelay]

Compared to you, Daft Punk is a great Trot.

Bahahaha. :laugh:

[Landsharks eat metal]

You're boring and I'm tired of you.
EDIT: not you 9mm... you suck because you're a faster poster than me :mad:

[Art Vandelay]

You're boring and I'm tired of you.
EDIT: not you 9mm... you suck because you're a faster poster than me :mad:

:)

Haha you suck for not being as fast of a poster as me.

[Omsk]

I like you 9mm, you will be like me one day.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

I like you 9mm, you will be like me one day.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j99/NoXion604/tumblr_m7oq5wMhEc1qg0zvr.gif

You fuckrattle.

[Omsk]

Blah-Tech-Space-Mundi-blah-blah-progress.

He failed to win in a debate in which he had to prove that a forum user is not a dragon.

[Art Vandelay]

I like you 9mm, you will be like me one day.

Dear god, what have I done to make Omsk like me. I really need to reassess who I am, if I'm gaining the acceptance of Omsk. Its time to look in the mirror, I feel dirty, I need to shower.

Omsk, as usual, I want to shit in your mouth.

[Omsk]

I never realy hated you or something, since i don't even know you. And since we never even had an argument, you mostly insulted me.

I love you.:blushing:

[GoddessCleoLover]

Omsk avidly read each issue of Workers Vanguard.;)

[statichaos]

Has a name that sounds too much like "Ginchy Guy", which is mildly annoying.

[GoddessCleoLover]

Has a name that fails to clearly communicate any discernible politics.

[statichaos]

Has a name that fails to clearly communicate any discernible politics.

Is unable to discern the underlying nod to thesis, antithesis, and synthesis in my name.

[Landsharks eat metal]

You're shit at insults.

[statichaos]

Thinks insulting the insults of others somehow constitutes a decent insult.

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

You're a democrat.

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

You're a democrat.

And you're a *****. Come to think of it, you's all *****es:cursing:

[statichaos]

Doesn't realize that Futurama references were outdated about ten years ago.

[Yet_Another_Boring_Marxist]

Is an evil Bernsteinite faux-leftist revisionist social democratic traitor. :P

[GoddessCleoLover]

Belongs to Wang Li/Chen Boda/Lin Biao/Jiang Qing/Zhang Chunqiao gang.

[Geiseric]

You're a reformist anarchist.

[Caj]

You are a Trotskyite piece of shit. :)

[Igor]

you smell weird

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

You and your entire family smell like haggus.

[Geiseric]

You get fat by eating too much mexican food while you're stoned for days on end

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

You get fat by eating too much mexican food while you're stoned for days on end

Your political beliefs are not and have never been relevant in the world.
PS The Peoples front of Judea will shit on your grave.

[GoddessCleoLover]

Anarchocommunaltoad is a CANF member who thinks that after Raul Castro die he will be able to go back and reclaim his family's business and be a member of the big bourgeoisie.:D

[PC LOAD LETTER]

I bet you bought all of Will Smith's cd's.

And liked them.

(gettin' jiggy wit it)

[GoddessCleoLover]

And I bet that YOU bought all of Vanilla Ice's CDs and got jiggy wit' em.

[Rugged Collectivist]

You don't even have an avatar.

[Geiseric]

You're such a lubricated horse cock

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

In the loop quotes are fucking lame.
But what can I expect from someone who's politics are complete shit, even for a trotskyist.

[Geiseric]

You belong to a cult of people who worship a mass murderer. So basically Stalinists are the same thing as people who worship Jim Jones.

[TheRedAnarchist23]

You belong to a cult of people who worship a mass murderer. So basically Stalinists are the same thing as people who worship Jim Jones.


You are just another authoritarian piece of shit!

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

A number of Socialists have latterly launched a regular crusade against what they call the principle of authority. It suffices to tell them that this or that act is authoritarian for it to be condemned. This summary mode of procedure is being abused to such an extent that it has become necessary to look into the matter somewhat more closely.

Authority, in the sense in which the word is used here, means: the imposition of the will of another upon ours; on the other hand, authority presupposes subordination. Now, since these two words sound bad, and the relationship which they represent is disagreeable to the subordinated party, the question is to ascertain whether there is any way of dispensing with it, whether — given the conditions of present-day society — we could not create another social system, in which this authority would be given no scope any longer, and would consequently have to disappear.

On examining the economic, industrial and agricultural conditions which form the basis of present-day bourgeois society, we find that they tend more and more to replace isolated action by combined action of individuals. Modern industry, with its big factories and mills, where hundreds of workers supervise complicated machines driven by steam, has superseded the small workshops of the separate producers; the carriages and wagons of the highways have become substituted by railway trains, just as the small schooners and sailing feluccas have been by steam-boats. Even agriculture falls increasingly under the dominion of the machine and of steam, which slowly but relentlessly put in the place of the small proprietors big capitalists, who with the aid of hired workers cultivate vast stretches of land.

Everywhere combined action, the complication of processes dependent upon each other, displaces independent action by individuals. But whoever mentions combined action speaks of organisation; now, is it possible to have organisation without authority?

Supposing a social revolution dethroned the capitalists, who now exercise their authority over the production and circulation of wealth. Supposing, to adopt entirely the point of view of the anti-authoritarians, that the land and the instruments of labour had become the collective property of the workers who use them. Will authority have disappeared, or will it only have changed its form? Let us see.

Let us take by way if example a cotton spinning mill. The cotton must pass through at least six successive operations before it is reduced to the state of thread, and these operations take place for the most part in different rooms. Furthermore, keeping the machines going requires an engineer to look after the steam engine, mechanics to make the current repairs, and many other labourers whose business it is to transfer the products from one room to another, and so forth. All these workers, men, women and children, are obliged to begin and finish their work at the hours fixed by the authority of the steam, which cares nothing for individual autonomy. The workers must, therefore, first come to an understanding on the hours of work; and these hours, once they are fixed, must be observed by all, without any exception. Thereafter particular questions arise in each room and at every moment concerning the mode of production, distribution of material, etc., which must be settled by decision of a delegate placed at the head of each branch of labour or, if possible, by a majority vote, the will of the single individual will always have to subordinate itself, which means that questions are settled in an authoritarian way. The automatic machinery of the big factory is much more despotic than the small capitalists who employ workers ever have been. At least with regard to the hours of work one may write upon the portals of these factories: Lasciate ogni autonomia, voi che entrate! [Leave, ye that enter in, all autonomy behind!]

If man, by dint of his knowledge and inventive genius, has subdued the forces of nature, the latter avenge themselves upon him by subjecting him, in so far as he employs them, to a veritable despotism independent of all social organisation. Wanting to abolish authority in large-scale industry is tantamount to wanting to abolish industry itself, to destroy the power loom in order to return to the spinning wheel.

Let us take another example — the railway. Here too the co-operation of an infinite number of individuals is absolutely necessary, and this co-operation must be practised during precisely fixed hours so that no accidents may happen. Here, too, the first condition of the job is a dominant will that settles all subordinate questions, whether this will is represented by a single delegate or a committee charged with the execution of the resolutions of the majority of persona interested. In either case there is a very pronounced authority. Moreover, what would happen to the first train dispatched if the authority of the railway employees over the Hon. passengers were abolished?

But the necessity of authority, and of imperious authority at that, will nowhere be found more evident than on board a ship on the high seas. There, in time of danger, the lives of all depend on the instantaneous and absolute obedience of all to the will of one.

When I submitted arguments like these to the most rabid anti-authoritarians, the only answer they were able to give me was the following: Yes, that's true, but there it is not the case of authority which we confer on our delegates, but of a commission entrusted! These gentlemen think that when they have changed the names of things they have changed the things themselves. This is how these profound thinkers mock at the whole world.

We have thus seen that, on the one hand, a certain authority, no matter how delegated, and, on the other hand, a certain subordination, are things which, independently of all social organisation, are imposed upon us together with the material conditions under which we produce and make products circulate.

We have seen, besides, that the material conditions of production and circulation inevitably develop with large-scale industry and large-scale agriculture, and increasingly tend to enlarge the scope of this authority. Hence it is absurd to speak of the principle of authority as being absolutely evil, and of the principle of autonomy as being absolutely good. Authority and autonomy are relative things whose spheres vary with the various phases of the development of society. If the autonomists confined themselves to saying that the social organisation of the future would restrict authority solely to the limits within which the conditions of production render it inevitable, we could understand each other; but they are blind to all facts that make the thing necessary and they passionately fight the world.

Why do the anti-authoritarians not confine themselves to crying out against political authority, the state? All Socialists are agreed that the political state, and with it political authority, will disappear as a result of the coming social revolution, that is, that public functions will lose their political character and will be transformed into the simple administrative functions of watching over the true interests of society. But the anti-authoritarians demand that the political state be abolished at one stroke, even before the social conditions that gave birth to it have been destroyed. They demand that the first act of the social revolution shall be the abolition of authority. Have these gentlemen ever seen a revolution? A revolution is certainly the most authoritarian thing there is; it is the act whereby one part of the population imposes its will upon the other part by means of rifles, bayonets and cannon — authoritarian means, if such there be at all; and if the victorious party does not want to have fought in vain, it must maintain this rule by means of the terror which its arms inspire in the reactionists. Would the Paris Commune have lasted a single day if it had not made use of this authority of the armed people against the bourgeois? Should we not, on the contrary, reproach it for not having used it freely enough?


Therefore, either one of two things: either the anti-authoritarians don't know what they're talking about, in which case they are creating nothing but confusion; or they do know, and in that case they are betraying the movement of the proletariat. In either case they serve the reaction.

[Landsharks eat metal]

You're too lazy to come up with your own insults, which is honestly kind of pathetic.

[TheRedAnarchist23]

A number of Socialists have latterly launched a regular crusade against what they call the principle of authority. It suffices to tell them that this or that act is authoritarian for it to be condemned. This summary mode of procedure is being abused to such an extent that it has become necessary to look into the matter somewhat more closely.

Authority, in the sense in which the word is used here, means: the imposition of the will of another upon ours; on the other hand, authority presupposes subordination. Now, since these two words sound bad, and the relationship which they represent is disagreeable to the subordinated party, the question is to ascertain whether there is any way of dispensing with it, whether — given the conditions of present-day society — we could not create another social system, in which this authority would be given no scope any longer, and would consequently have to disappear.

On examining the economic, industrial and agricultural conditions which form the basis of present-day bourgeois society, we find that they tend more and more to replace isolated action by combined action of individuals. Modern industry, with its big factories and mills, where hundreds of workers supervise complicated machines driven by steam, has superseded the small workshops of the separate producers; the carriages and wagons of the highways have become substituted by railway trains, just as the small schooners and sailing feluccas have been by steam-boats. Even agriculture falls increasingly under the dominion of the machine and of steam, which slowly but relentlessly put in the place of the small proprietors big capitalists, who with the aid of hired workers cultivate vast stretches of land.

Everywhere combined action, the complication of processes dependent upon each other, displaces independent action by individuals. But whoever mentions combined action speaks of organisation; now, is it possible to have organisation without authority?

Supposing a social revolution dethroned the capitalists, who now exercise their authority over the production and circulation of wealth. Supposing, to adopt entirely the point of view of the anti-authoritarians, that the land and the instruments of labour had become the collective property of the workers who use them. Will authority have disappeared, or will it only have changed its form? Let us see.

Let us take by way if example a cotton spinning mill. The cotton must pass through at least six successive operations before it is reduced to the state of thread, and these operations take place for the most part in different rooms. Furthermore, keeping the machines going requires an engineer to look after the steam engine, mechanics to make the current repairs, and many other labourers whose business it is to transfer the products from one room to another, and so forth. All these workers, men, women and children, are obliged to begin and finish their work at the hours fixed by the authority of the steam, which cares nothing for individual autonomy. The workers must, therefore, first come to an understanding on the hours of work; and these hours, once they are fixed, must be observed by all, without any exception. Thereafter particular questions arise in each room and at every moment concerning the mode of production, distribution of material, etc., which must be settled by decision of a delegate placed at the head of each branch of labour or, if possible, by a majority vote, the will of the single individual will always have to subordinate itself, which means that questions are settled in an authoritarian way. The automatic machinery of the big factory is much more despotic than the small capitalists who employ workers ever have been. At least with regard to the hours of work one may write upon the portals of these factories: Lasciate ogni autonomia, voi che entrate! [Leave, ye that enter in, all autonomy behind!]

If man, by dint of his knowledge and inventive genius, has subdued the forces of nature, the latter avenge themselves upon him by subjecting him, in so far as he employs them, to a veritable despotism independent of all social organisation. Wanting to abolish authority in large-scale industry is tantamount to wanting to abolish industry itself, to destroy the power loom in order to return to the spinning wheel.

Let us take another example — the railway. Here too the co-operation of an infinite number of individuals is absolutely necessary, and this co-operation must be practised during precisely fixed hours so that no accidents may happen. Here, too, the first condition of the job is a dominant will that settles all subordinate questions, whether this will is represented by a single delegate or a committee charged with the execution of the resolutions of the majority of persona interested. In either case there is a very pronounced authority. Moreover, what would happen to the first train dispatched if the authority of the railway employees over the Hon. passengers were abolished?

But the necessity of authority, and of imperious authority at that, will nowhere be found more evident than on board a ship on the high seas. There, in time of danger, the lives of all depend on the instantaneous and absolute obedience of all to the will of one.

When I submitted arguments like these to the most rabid anti-authoritarians, the only answer they were able to give me was the following: Yes, that's true, but there it is not the case of authority which we confer on our delegates, but of a commission entrusted! These gentlemen think that when they have changed the names of things they have changed the things themselves. This is how these profound thinkers mock at the whole world.

We have thus seen that, on the one hand, a certain authority, no matter how delegated, and, on the other hand, a certain subordination, are things which, independently of all social organisation, are imposed upon us together with the material conditions under which we produce and make products circulate.

We have seen, besides, that the material conditions of production and circulation inevitably develop with large-scale industry and large-scale agriculture, and increasingly tend to enlarge the scope of this authority. Hence it is absurd to speak of the principle of authority as being absolutely evil, and of the principle of autonomy as being absolutely good. Authority and autonomy are relative things whose spheres vary with the various phases of the development of society. If the autonomists confined themselves to saying that the social organisation of the future would restrict authority solely to the limits within which the conditions of production render it inevitable, we could understand each other; but they are blind to all facts that make the thing necessary and they passionately fight the world.

Why do the anti-authoritarians not confine themselves to crying out against political authority, the state? All Socialists are agreed that the political state, and with it political authority, will disappear as a result of the coming social revolution, that is, that public functions will lose their political character and will be transformed into the simple administrative functions of watching over the true interests of society. But the anti-authoritarians demand that the political state be abolished at one stroke, even before the social conditions that gave birth to it have been destroyed. They demand that the first act of the social revolution shall be the abolition of authority. Have these gentlemen ever seen a revolution? A revolution is certainly the most authoritarian thing there is; it is the act whereby one part of the population imposes its will upon the other part by means of rifles, bayonets and cannon — authoritarian means, if such there be at all; and if the victorious party does not want to have fought in vain, it must maintain this rule by means of the terror which its arms inspire in the reactionists. Would the Paris Commune have lasted a single day if it had not made use of this authority of the armed people against the bourgeois? Should we not, on the contrary, reproach it for not having used it freely enough?


Therefore, either one of two things: either the anti-authoritarians don't know what they're talking about, in which case they are creating nothing but confusion; or they do know, and in that case they are betraying the movement of the proletariat. In either case they serve the reaction.

Sorry for breaking the rules here.
Can you really not formulate your own insults, and need to resort to Engels to insult me for you?
I have never used writings of anyone against another person in an argument, but there are some who just love to throw Marx and Engels at me, like that is going to change my convictions.

I really could not find any insults for Landsharks eat metal.

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Why would I waste my time writing something if it has been said in a better way before.

The only reason you don't use writings against anyone is because you probably don't understand them. At least, that is what I get from your horrible posts that are all idealistic and full of your anti-authoritarian non-sense.

Happy now?

[Art Vandelay]

TRA23 you're an idiot.

Negative Creep, your politics suck, but your cool enough yo.

[TheRedAnarchist23]

Why would I waste my time writing something if it has been said in a better way before.

The only reason you don't use writings against anyone is because you probably don't understand them. At least, that is what I get from your horrible posts that are all idealistic and full of your anti-authoritarian non-sense.

Happy now?

Much better now


TRA23 you're an idiot.

You are one of those dogmatic marxists that can put people off communism just by starting to talk about it. You have no idea or principle that can be said to have been created by you, all your principles come from marxism, marxism is all you are. You can never think outside of the box you have created out of marxist theory, and any person who dares to say anything that you consider is not marxist will get thrown marxist writings at them. You might speak of the alienation of people, who are thought to accept the current system like it has always been there, and are compelled to defend it without question, but you are many times worse than them.
You are the one who is alienated! You are the one who is a slave to a system! A system which does not even exist yet, nor has ever existed! You are a puppet, a hollow man! A hollow man filled with thoughts which are not yours!

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

You are not at all thinking outside the box.
You're as much in the box as anyone else.
We can't think outside the box.
Our ideas are a direct result of the box we live in.
But that's not the bad thing about you, the bad thing is that your politics are based on the idea that we live in a dystopian society.
Oh and authoritarian? That doesn't mean anything.

[TheRedAnarchist23]

You are not at all thinking outside the box.
You're as much in the box as anyone else.
We can't think outside the box.
Our ideas are a direct result of the box we live in.

I knew you were going to say that! This just proves how you (and 9mm) blindly follow marxist theory.


But that's not the bad thing about you, the bad thing is that your politics are based on the idea that we live in a dystopian society.

We do live in a dystopian society. Only one blinded by the distractions of the modern world, or by his ideas, would be able to not notice something as obvious as what society really is.
You are going to have to explain this to me.

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Well, if not being an idealist is blindly following marxist theory I'll take it.

[Quail]

Your name is from a Nirvana song so you probably don't really know what the best grunge music sounds like.

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Enlighten me!

You live in Sheffield, that's horrible.

[TheRedAnarchist23]

You haven't explained it to me!

[Ostrinski]

This is a horrible thread and you're all idiots.

Also In Utero and Nevermind are two of the best grunge albums ever released, better than anything Mad Season, Temple of the Dog, or whatever else "real grunge" has released.

[Igor]

changes his username like i change socks

you're labor days ok

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

changes his username like i change socks

you're labor days ok

No he's not.

[Ostrinski]

Negative Creep likes Brospierre, Igor likes Labor Days. *Sigh* what do? I think I'll stick with this one for a good while though. I'm gonna try to keep it for at least a year. Two Headed Boy was the other one I considered, as an ode to the amazing NMH song.

Insults:

Igor's Finnish accent isn't understood by anyone in Scotland.

Negative Creep could have picked a better Nirvana song for his namesake.

[Quail]

Enlighten me!

You live in Sheffield, that's horrible.

Sheffield is fucking awesome. You've just never been there.


This is a horrible thread and you're all idiots.

Also In Utero and Nevermind are two of the best grunge albums ever released, better than anything Mad Season, Temple of the Dog, or whatever else "real grunge" has released.

Soundgarden's Badmotorfinger, Screaming Trees' Dust are awesome and I'm sorry but ToTD is fucking amazing and better than anything Nirvana ever did. But I am pretty biased. I didn't actually like Nirvana all that much until I got into Soundgarden.

[Rugged Collectivist]

Negative Creep likes Brospierre, Igor likes Labor Days. *Sigh* what do? I think I'll stick with this one for a good while though. I'm gonna try to keep it for at least a year. Two Headed Boy was the other one I considered, as an ode to the amazing NMH song.

I like Labor Days. If I were going to name myself after a NMH song I would pick Holland, 1945 or Communist daughter.

Sheffield sucks just because quail lives there.

[Geiseric]

Above likes listening to Lil Wayne

[Art Vandelay]

The coolest Nirvana song to use as a name would of been "Territorial Pissings," maybe I'll take it. Broody is lanky.

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

Your life peaked 15 years ago.

[thriller]

Your life peaked 15 years ago.

You are you.

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

You are you.

At least i'm not you:)

[Rugged Collectivist]

Above likes listening to Lil Wayne

Not gonna lie. I don't listen to lil' Wayne, but from what I've heard he isn't THAT bad.

Anarchocommunaltoad: Your avatar is a shitty futurama reference.

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

Not gonna lie. I don't listen to lil' Wayne, but from what I've heard he isn't THAT bad.

Anarchocommunaltoad: Your avatar is a shitty futurama reference.

I don't even know whats going on in your stupid ass pic.Loser.

[ComradeGrant]

Spanish revolutionaries shooting a statue of Jesus, dumbass.

[GoddessCleoLover]

I can't insult Comrade Grant after that post. I await with eager anticipation the response from Anarchcommunaltoad.:D

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

Spanish revolutionaries shooting a statue of Jesus, dumbass.
Thanks for the info fuckwad, i can't believe you were the first to realize i'm too stupid to use my eyes (you fucking idiot). I'm didn't mean that i can't see, i meant that i couldn't believe how something so fucking juvenile and potentially alienating was cataloged for the ages. You *****

[Rugged Collectivist]

Thanks for the info fuckwad, i can't believe you were the first to realize i'm too stupid to use my eyes (you fucking idiot). I'm didn't mean that i can't see, i meant that i couldn't believe how something so fucking juvenile and potentially alienating was cataloged for the ages. You *****

1. I don't care

2. I was planning on changing my avatar anyway motherfucker.

you're still a toad.

[Blake's Baby]

Meh.

You're not so rugged (as in, bumpy), more like 'rugged' (as in, you've got some rugs).

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

Meh.

You're not so rugged (as in, bumpy), more like 'rugged' (as in, you've got some rugs).

You utilize outdated terminology. Douche

[Art Vandelay]

You utilize outdated terminology. Douche

You use sexist language; stop it. Also according to your last insult to me, if my life indeed peaked 15 years ago, it would of been when I was 5.

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

You use sexist language; stop it.

No I don't. When I say *****, i mean the traditional definition (a fawning she dog who would fuck and suck for the tiniest amount of atttention and/or to stop getting kicked). When i say douche...well....i still mean you're a douche (your only purpose is to wash unclean orifices)


Also according to your last insult to me, if my life indeed peaked 15 years ago, it would of been when I was 5.

Exactly

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

You truly are a festering, throbbing carbuncle on the arse-cheek of humanity. As a summary of your overall character, I would go with a suppurating rectal polyp of the lowest and most vomit-inducing order. Your aesthetic tastes are base and repellent to even the most uncultured troglodyte, and your mouth is an ever-flowing sewage outlet, discharging such a degree of faecal filth and diseased micturition so as to make even the most hardened sanitation worker sick to their stomach. Aside from degrading the very Earth with your presence, you also constitute a net deficit to the worth and nobility of the human species. That specimens like you are allowed to run freely, like a fertilising machine spewing slurry over some forsaken field of beets, is a source of constant amazement to me. It is a malediction of the greatest magnitude that the fabric of the universe itself does not revolt against your malign existence and puke you out into dimensions unknown. Instead, birds fall silent and dogs howl and whimper at your passing, cats hissing and arching their backs while people cross the street to avoid you.

The world will be a better place when you finally expire in a puddle of your own unspeakable juices.

[Blake's Baby]

No-one listens to you because no-one cares what you say.

[Omsk]

Posadists were more relevant than you Left-Comms.

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

You truly are a festering, throbbing carbuncle on the arse-cheek of humanity. As a summary of your overall character, I would go with a suppurating rectal polyp of the lowest and most vomit-inducing order. Your aesthetic tastes are base and repellent to even the most uncultured troglodyte, and your mouth is an ever-flowing sewage outlet, discharging such a degree of faecal filth and diseased micturition so as to make even the most hardened sanitation worker sick to their stomach. Aside from degrading the very Earth with your presence, you also constitute a net deficit to the worth and nobility of the human species. That specimens like you are allowed to run freely, like a fertilising machine spewing slurry over some forsaken field of beets, is a source of constant amazement to me. It is a malediction of the greatest magnitude that the fabric of the universe itself does not revolt against your malign existence and puke you out into dimensions unknown. Instead, birds fall silent and dogs howl and whimper at your passing, cats hissing and arching their backs while people cross the street to avoid you.

The world will be a better place when you finally expire in a puddle of your own unspeakable juices.
http://assets0.ordienetworks.com/images/GifGuide/clapping/tumblr_lf8s4yWs6H1qa6ql2o1_500.gif

No-one listens to you because no-one cares what you say.
And who are you?

Posadists were more relevant than you Left-Comms.
And libertarians are more relavant than you stalinists in the 21st century

[Blake's Baby]

Stupid Toad, don't even know you're only supposed to insult the user above you. MUUUURGH! TOAD NOT READ GOOD! TOAD NOT BRAIN GOOD! TOAD SAD! MMMMUUURGH!

[xvzc]

I think that you are a nice person who contributes to this forum in an earnest manner :)

[GoddessCleoLover]

I agree with xvzc that this thread deserves to be hijacked.:D

Seriously, nothing good can come from an insult thread. Take it from gramps.;)

[Rugged Collectivist]

Meh.

You're not so rugged (as in, bumpy), more like 'rugged' (as in, you've got some rugs).

I have a rug. yes.

To Gramsci guy: You're old.

[GoddessCleoLover]

Age-ist.;)

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

Refuses to die-ist:cool:

[Ostrinski]

You would clap loudly as Stalin defiled your mother before your very own eyes.This was a good one

[Geiseric]

You're the biggest carpetbagger this side of the mason dixon

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

And you're a trotskyist and therefore a waste of time

[PC LOAD LETTER]

You mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

You mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.
Your tendencies' vagueness is infuriating.

[thriller]

Shut up

[Ostrinski]

Avatar is ugly

[human strike]

You're the syphilitic child of a wannabe Trot.

[Rugged Collectivist]

Your avatar is a ninja tackling a sickle-A

[human strike]

Your avatar is people shooting a statue...

[Geiseric]

You suck because they're shooting jesus.

[PC LOAD LETTER]

You're not actually Robin Hood you big fat phony

[Geiseric]

Your picture made me laugh pretty hard. Left communists only care about selling books.

[Yuppie Grinder]

Trotskyists only care about their precious Labour parties who are oh so proletarian.

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Your picture made me laugh pretty hard. Left communists only care about selling books.

Said the trot.... :rolleyes:

@Gourmet, you're an ultra-leftist swine.

[Anarchocommunaltoad]

Negcreep, you're a stalinist hag

[Art Vandelay]

You smell funny.

[Ostrinski]

Hockey

[Landsharks eat metal]

You think hockey is an insult:mad: enough to make you a fucking dickwad

[Art Vandelay]

Hockey

Someone's been creeping my facebook. ;)

LEM I'm not going to insult you since you defended the national pastime of my motherland.

[Geiseric]

9mm, you're a lubricated horse cock.

[Art Vandelay]

9mm, you're a lubricated horse cock.

Haha interesting, I've definitely been called worse. I'm going to say that Broody secretly likes Madonna.

[Yuppie Grinder]

i bet you smoke dirt weed

[thriller]

i bet you smoke dirt weed

"The Climb" by Hanna Montana is your favorite song.

[Geiseric]

You're a star wars nerd, when lord of the rings is obviously the only saga for modern american teenagers.

[Igor]

thinks lord of the rings is the only saga for modern american teenagers

asoiaf is tbh more entertaining and it's even american!

[Geiseric]

You know that's a very good series. however the lotr takes the cake because Led Zeppelin talks about it. Besides peter jackson is the tits.

[PC LOAD LETTER]

Ya Varg Vikernes also talks about Lord of the Rings a lot YOU DAMN NAZI

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Star Wars kicks LotR's ass.

[Rugged Collectivist]

Your picture made me laugh pretty hard. Left communists only care about selling books.

Trotskyists only care about selling newspapers. (I know we're supposed to insult the above user but I couldn't resist.)

Negative Creep. You like Star Wars and that makes you terrible.

[Geiseric]

Yeah right jar jar binks and THE GALACTIC SENATE WHOOWW those parts were so star wars. Lord of thr rings is the only trilogy, I can't even believe were talking about this, is about all the nations of middle earth abandoning their racism and struggling togather against the capitalist orcs. That's what like the wole story is. Star wars was about fucking hayden christienson selling action figures.