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campesino
4th November 2012, 23:27
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Let's Get Free
4th November 2012, 23:53
Dude with the camera is obviously a right wing provocateur, but the other guy isn't a whole lot better either.

#FF0000
5th November 2012, 00:46
dummies like this would fare a whole lot better if they had a sense of humor and didn't get mad like king babies

Lowtech
9th November 2012, 06:59
may have been scripted...either way though, they wouldn't video anyone that is an actual socialist or knows what they're talking about, its just slander to perpetuate the myth that socialists or the left in general are uneducated and irrational.

Red Commissar
9th November 2012, 07:07
Seems this camera guy got worked up with the guy using the word "cracker", then took the old position that white people are being discriminated against and that the real "racists" are those talking about race in the first place. I suspect the guy thinks he's a socialist but is probably a soc dem type that's into activism and more scatterbrained than anything.

BTW this fool is one of several "vloggers" that find some nutty guy and interview him, and then hold him up to represent all of the crew. I think this guy also went to some occupy events to make fun of people- selective editing, it's very obvious in the clip with the way the sound cuts out all over the place when he switches to another clip.

If he went to some real organizers and not some over emotional type, he would have gotten a much different response. Of course he wouldn't've been able to upload to youtube for the persecution complex stricken conservatives and lolbertarians to laugh at the bleeding hart complaining about white privilege when there's a black president (cause it's that simple :rolleyes: ).

Jimmie Higgins
13th November 2012, 11:03
Yeah, the guy didn't handle himself well, but if he had, then none of it would be posted online and spread through Bribart and Alex Jones to the mainstream media... it would have gone with the other 40 minutes of recoding - trash.

At our events and at protests we need to be aware that while the tea-party doesn't really have the ability to be active on the streets, this sort of thing is what right-wingers have been doing to try and discredit the left.

What is really to be gained from debating tea-partiers or Ron Paul people having an event. If they posed a threat, one person mocking them or arguing won't do much - we'd need to organize a much better and diciplined responce. If they are marginal, then what is to be gained other than some stess - in portland I'm sure if he just stood on the corner and asked random passers-by to come to an Occupy event or something, his 45 minutes would have been more productive.

If interactions in OI here were in person and videoed, we'd probably come off not unlike this guy when you just cherry-pick some of the more flipant things people will say to right-wing assholes.

- Also while "cracker" was obviously a mis-step and polarizing and now used to totally ignore and subvert the arguement he started to make - he's right, structurally, white people are not subject to racism, though anyone can be hated by induviduals with bigoted attitudes. "White people need to realize they are part of the problem" is not really the way out though - white people need to realize that there is structural racism, definately (and non-white people too) but "different ideas" or attitudes is an idealist approach to oppression.