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L.A.P.
4th November 2012, 18:03
Axis of evil
Iraq
Iran
North Korea
Other axis of evil
Libya
Syria
Cuba
Outposts of tyranny
Zimbabwe
Belarus
Myanmar
Ocean Seal
5th November 2012, 05:29
Don't forget Venezuela and Ecuador. And also their proxy war enemies like Russia and China.
TheGodlessUtopian
5th November 2012, 05:39
I'm sorry but what is the point of this thread? What are you trying to say?
Let's Get Free
5th November 2012, 06:55
Yes, imperialist intervention must be absolutely opposed, but bourgeois dictators like Gaddafi, Assad, Mugabe, the Islamic Republic of Iran, and the latest Kim should not be supported either.
Bakunin Knight
6th November 2012, 10:17
When the election is out of the way, I think that the drive for war on Iran will begin in earnest. Russia and China, however, will both have something to say about that...
LordAcheron
6th November 2012, 11:23
Yes, imperialist intervention must be absolutely opposed, but bourgeois dictators like Gaddafi, Assad, Mugabe, the Islamic Republic of Iran, and the latest Kim should not be supported either.
I've heard quite a few leftists supporting Gaddafi simply because he opposed NATO n shit. Pretty fucking stupid if you ask me.
ed miliband
6th November 2012, 11:53
Axis of evil
Iraq
Iran
North Korea
Other axis of evil
Libya
Syria
Cuba
Outposts of tyranny
Zimbabwe
Belarus
Myanmar
why are you using "imperialism" as shorthand for 'places america doesn't like'? every modern nation-state is imperialist.
hetz
6th November 2012, 13:41
every modern nation-state is imperialist.
Even Andorra? What about Albania?
Seriously, you should elaborate on what you wrote here because it doesn't really make sense.
Sperm-Doll Setsuna
6th November 2012, 14:26
Even Andorra? What about Albania?
Seriously, you should elaborate on what you wrote here because it doesn't really make sense.
It makes perfect sense, because imperialism isn't about specific nations policies, but the world system of which all nations are a part, a system of exploitation wherein all ruling classes from around the world have a role to play, which even though it might slightly change in some "national liberation", remains in essence the same.
hetz
6th November 2012, 14:29
Well I don't know what "imperialism" are you talking about.
If you look at Albania it's obviously a part of that world system with comprador b., but it can't be an imperialist country for several reasons, that Lenin wrote on in his famous work "Imperialism the highest stage...". I'm sure you must have heard of it, so I'd appreciate your comments on it and how it relates to what we're talking about here.
Ocean Seal
6th November 2012, 20:37
why are you using "imperialism" as shorthand for 'places america doesn't like'? every modern nation-state is imperialist.
All that monopoly capital that Haiti displaces into the American labor market.
cynicles
7th November 2012, 00:54
And what is Europe and America supposed to be?
The Clusterfuck of Justice
England
France
Germany
The Light on the Shitpile
America!
The Vanguard of Human Rights
Saudi Arabia
Qatar
Israel
U.A.E
The Stallwart of Hea...ok now I'm just making up medieval titles.
Prometeo liberado
7th November 2012, 01:01
Can Canada be The Light of Zartha?
Anarchocommunaltoad
14th November 2012, 22:17
Can Canada be The Light of Zartha?
From this day forth, Canada shall be called by its rightful name, The Light of Zartha.
Ismail
15th November 2012, 21:50
Albania's 1976 Constitution had as one of its clauses that, "The granting of concessions to, and the creation of, foreign economic and financial companies and other institutions or ones formed jointly with bourgeois and revisionist capitalist monopolies and states, as well as obtaining credits from them, are prohibited in the People's Socialist Republic of Albania." From that point on trade was conducted via barter. I don't see how that's "imperialist."
why are you using "imperialism" as shorthand for 'places america doesn't like'? every modern nation-state is imperialist.Alright, let's be neutral then. Russia doesn't like Georgia.
... that's about it. Obviously viewing the USA as the sole imperialist power is wrong, but it's obvious that in the modern world most chicanery in this sphere is orchestrated by it. Obviously as time goes on China will play a more prominent role as inter-imperialist conflicts develop, and in fact is already working to obtain influence in and economic control over the "evil" countries.
I've heard quite a few leftists supporting Gaddafi simply because he opposed NATO n shit. Pretty fucking stupid if you ask me.Depends what you mean by "support." If you mean that people viewed him as some sort of "socialist" or progressive figure then yes, it's ridiculous. From the late 80's onwards he sought to improve ties with the West, helped the USA in its "anti-terrorism" efforts, etc. Of course he also maintained an "independent" streak, privately threatened to take control of Western oil interests in Libya, etc. which made the West uneasy. He was an opportunist and anti-communist. And yet the US intervention in Libya (which was backed by the UK and France, which are obviously imperialist powers as well) was an aggressive act, one which any communist should have and did oppose just as one opposed the invasion of Iraq, the Soviet and American invasions of Afghanistan, etc.
"As is known, in 1969 there was a revolt in Libya, too; the dynasty of King Idris was overthrown and a group of young officers, headed by Qaddafi who poses as anti-imperialist, came to power. We can describe this revolt, this movement, as progressive at first, but later it lost its impact and at the moment it has fallen into stagnation. Qaddafi who came to power and claims to be the head of Islam, exploited the Moslem religion to present Libya as a 'progressive' country and even called it 'socialist', but in reality the great oil wealth of the country is being exploited for very dubious adventurous and sinister aims. Of course, for purposes of demagogy and because the income from the sale of oil is truly colossal, some changes have been made in the life of the people in the cities, while the poverty stricken nomads of the desert remain a grave social problem. As we know, Qaddafi was a disciple of Nasser's in politics, ideology and religious belief, as well as in his aims."
(Enver Hoxha. Reflections on the Middle East. Tirana: 8 Nėntori Publishing House. 1984. pp. 362-363.)
bad ideas actualised by alcohol
15th November 2012, 22:49
Even Andorra? What about Albania?
Seriously, you should elaborate on what you wrote here because it doesn't really make sense.
Well, Albania is a NATO-member.
Not to speak of the disgusting love they have nowadays for the US, so they do have some pro-imperialism going on to say the least.
el_chavista
15th November 2012, 23:45
This post whets the appetite:
http://www.guerraeterna.com/archives/cocina_ejedelmal.jpg
"When they're not actively attempting to develop weapons of mass destruction, 'Axis of Evil' countries such as Iraq, Iran and North Korea are busy enjoying their region's finest dishes. And their 'Axis of Somewhat Evil' cohorts, such as Cuba and Syria, are at it too. With over one hundred recipes, from soups and salads to meat dishes and desserts, this unique cookbook includes snapshots of each country as well as profiles of famous leaders. Regional recipes appear alongside dictators' favourite dishes - from Kim Jong-Il's ruthless appetite for shark fin soup to Saddam's celebrated rack of fresh roasted gazelle."
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