How do you fight capitalists' propaganda?

[Philosophos]

Hello once again I'm back with some queries and questions. As the title says I want to learn how I can fight the capitalists propaganda because I've had some conversations with people of the right wing and with GD voters (they are not the type of people that will start hitting an immigrant they just voted for them) and I've realised that their minds are not working. Seriously they can't see some of the basic bullshit that the capitalists pass to them through the tv. It's the same bullshit that I've stopped believing since I was 13.

An example will help you understand the situation. This one GD voter said that he agrees with some of the stuff that communism says. He likes being equall with everyone. After a while when he finished the pros about communism he started saying that what he doesn't like in communism is that he doesn't want to eat the same things as everyone else does (he took Bulgaria as an example where every person was eating beans for example). I told him that these people back then went straight to socialism while they had nothing and they were uneducated, it was sure that this result would occur.

Anyway after a while again he said: "Look what I can't understand in communism is should I be in the shit with everyone else? If I'm a badass that can work for 10 hours straight why should I get the same payment/coupons or whatever the hell else with a guy that worked for 5 hours? I might want to make a fortune so I can be safe for the future".

From the one hand he likes being equall but he also wants to make a fortune while the other people around him won't make. It's so freakin' ridiculous that I can't even go on to analyse it.

What I want to know is can I take this bullshit out of the minds of these poor people or no? If yes tell me the way / give me a link.... if no.... well.... I don't know.....

[Soomie]

Well, for one thing he's not looking at the type of "work" that will be done in a communist society. He's not going to be slaving away at some crappy job for low wages like he is now. Also, I would like to point out that there are plenty of people now who work a different amount of hours and get paid the same. If guy A makes $7.25/hr and works for 8 hours, and guy B makes $9.25/hr and works for about 6 hours, they make the same amount of money. There's no difference, really. And everyone will be safe in the future, because everyone will be provided for. In communism, there's no worry about that.

[campesino]

socialism, to me makes so much sense because it is a group of people producing for need rather than profit. explain to people, that we have the ability to produce enough to provide everyone a decent living, but that in capitalism only what is profitable is produced.
or how in communism employment would be guaranteed because,

in a capitalist system a capitalist buys a new machine that does the work of two workers. So the capitalist either fires the worker's since they are more expensive to keep than the machine or; produces more products and the value of the product declines to the point the capitalist has to fire worker's to cut cost.

In a socialist system the worker's create a machine that does the work of two workers. the worker's then realize their gain in productivity by reducing hours. that way a gain in productivity is enjoyed by the workers, who are working less and producing the same.

in capitalism machine/capital control people
in socialism people control machines

[campesino]

another example, in capitalism the man loses his job because of capital, than he can no longer afford his home, then he can't pay for the doctor to heal him. so he ends up homeless and sick, even though he is capable of work and has worked all his life, what was this man's sin? living in capitalism.
In socialism people would organize production so those who can work, work to make a better world for all.
while in capitalism capitalist organize production, as a method to enrich themselves with capital which. Capital can only be produced, when a worker receives less than what he is producing, which is why the worker's get poorer, and unemployed.

capital causes people to screw each other.

[Philosophos]

Ofcourse I agree with you but here is the ridiculous part: They can't even understand this simple thing called same production-less work. They think that they have to work for lots of hours because they are not going to survive without working their whole life all the time.

In addition they can't understand that when you own the means of production and you don't have to work to survive but to complete yourself and help the society (they also can't understand giving without taking money) you will have a lot of production because you do it for the pleasure and not because someone told you "do it otherwise you are going to die from hunger"

[campesino]

explain to them that since the capitalist control work, they cannot get work even if they want to. So capitalism condemns many hard worker's to a hard life. Explain to them how capitalist don't even pay them decently, much less, what they actually create. explain to them that capitalist don't even work, and are parasites on the working class. try to create feelings of class struggle. that the rich are not their friends or ever will be their friends.