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ВАЛТЕР
25th October 2012, 10:50
http://en.rian.ru/analysis/20121023/176851932.html



Russia’s Rising Red Dawn (http://en.rian.ru/analysis/20121023/176851932.html)

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The collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 appeared to have sounded the death knell for the ideas of Marx and Lenin in Russia, but just over two decades on, a new wave of young and increasingly visible socialist activists are eager to hoist the red flag over the Kremlin once more.
“I became interested in socialism when I was in my late teens,” said Isabel Magkoeva, 21, a rising star of Russia’s left and an activist with the Revolutionary Socialist Movement.
“I was always concerned by economic inequality and started to ask questions about why this should be. Then I got interested in left-wing literature,” added Magkoeva, a former teenage model who bears a striking resemblance to high-profile Chilean student protest leader Camila Vallejo. “That was when I realized I wanted to get involved.”
But although Magkoeva praises Lenin as a “great revolutionary,” she has few illusions about the Soviet Union, which ceased to exist the same year she was born.
“There was no genuine socialism in the Soviet Union,” she said. “And it is inaccurate to portray us all as seeking a return to the past. That simply isn’t true. We are for a new modernized form of socialism.”
This increase in the popularity of socialist ideas has been bolstered, in part, by Russia’s appalling record on wealth inequality, highlighted earlier this month by a report by the Swiss financial services company Credit Suisse.
“Excluding small Caribbean nations with resident billionaires, wealth inequality in Russia is the highest in the world,” the report said. “Worldwide, billionaires collectively account for less than 2% of total household wealth; in Russia today, around 100 billionaires own 30% of all personal assets.”
It is figures like this that, activists say, have attracted young Russians to socialist groups. Young left-wingers have been among the main movers in the unprecedented protests against the almost 13-year-rule of President Vladimir Putin, bucking an over-two-decade long trend that had seen unreformed, elderly Soviet-era communists as almost the sole champions of socialist causes.
“Young people have almost no chance to buy affordable housing and bring up a family normally. There is almost no opportunity for people to climb the social ladder, especially for those who are not from Moscow,” said activist Sergei Fomchenkov, 38, a leading member of the Other Russia movement.
“And so when people see all this, and then see a small group of incredibly wealthy billionaires building themselves luxury villas and so on, of course they start to see leftist ideas as a real alternative,” he added.
But, like Magkoeva, Fomchenkov has no desire to see Russia return to its Soviet past.
“We want a modernized form of socialism in which the state controls national industry, but not small businesses,” he stressed. “It would be lunacy to attempt to control the activities of every small café, for example.”
Analysts tie this rise in socialist ideas in Russia into a similar trend in a crisis-hit Europe, where leftist parties have made dramatic gains in an increasingly polarized political atmosphere.
“Like everywhere in Europe, vulnerable young people hit by the global economic crisis are rediscovering the ideas of socialism,” said Lilia Shevtsova, an analyst at the Moscow-based Carnegie Center think tank. “These ideas were discredited in Russia in the period after the collapse of the Soviet Union, but young people are today moving toward the new left.”
Left Front
The most high-profile of this new generation of leftists, Sergei Udaltsov, made international headlines last week when he was charged with planning mass disorder across Russia (http://en.rian.ru/trend/charges_against_udaltsov_2012/) on the basis of grainy footage broadcast by a pro-Kremlin channel.
Left Front leader Udaltsov, 36, a fiery, shaven-head activist who has been one of the main players in ongoing anti-Kremlin street protests, could face up to ten years behind bars if convicted on the charges, which he denies. Udaltsov was released by investigators on a pledge not to leave Moscow, but two other Left Front activists remain in custody waiting trial.
“It’s no coincidence that the Left Front movement was targeted,” activist Alexei Sakhnin told journalists after Udaltsov had been freed on a pledge not to leave Moscow. “The Left Front is the only group to have addressed social issues such as rising utility costs, which is something that millions of Russians suffer from every day.”
And the movement’s rhetoric seems to have struck a chord with many Russians. A public opinion survey by state-pollster VTsIOM indicated that Udaltsov was the only high-profile protest leader to have seen his popularity ratings increase since Putin’s election to a third term in March.
“Left wing groups in Russia openly sought a return to a socialism system in the 1990s, but they were entirely discredited,” said Left Front co-founder Ilya Ponomaryov. “But people have now again begun to see leftist ideas as a real alternative and it’s a very positive sign that more and more young people are getting involved.”
But he dismissed suggestions that history has proven it is impossible to build a viable society on the principles of socialism and communism.
“They all got Marx and Engels wrong,” he said, referring to previous failed attempts to construct socialist states. “You have to get the economic approach right first, before you can build a socialist country.”
Communist Nostalgia
Putin once famously called the Soviet Union’s collapse “the greatest geo-political catastrophe” of the 20th century, tapping into a pervasive nostalgia for the Soviet era among the older generation.
And avowed Putin foe Gennady Gudkov, a former KGB officer turned Kremlin critic, told (http://en.ria.ru/analysis/20120907/175829926.html) RIA Novosti earlier this year that he shared the president’s views. “We could have kept the country together,” he said.
Left Front co-founder Ponomaryov, 37, also admitted to “mixed feelings” about the Soviet Union.
“It was strong state with many social guarantees, but there was far too much bureaucracy,” he said. “But it’s clear things were better in the Soviet Union than they are now.”
“There was no freedom of speech or human rights back then, but there isn’t any now, either,” he said.
This widespread respect for the Soviet past has translated into voter support for the Communist Party, the second largest political party in parliament.
But activists like Magkoeva, who spent the weekend collecting money for “political prisoners” at a two-day opposition rally in central Moscow, have little time for the party, whose veteran leader, Gennady Zyuganov, has lost four presidential elections since the break-up of the Soviet Union.
“Today’s Communist Party may praise the Soviet Union, but it has little in common with left-wing ideas,” she said. “It is an opposition for show only, which does not shy away from using the most populist ideas, from small business to Orthodox Christianity, to attract supporters.”
And it is the socialist fervor of Magkoeva and her comrades that many analysts see as the biggest threat to Putin’s grip on power.
“A few years ago, it seemed that nationalist groups posed the greatest danger to the authorities,” said Shevtsova, the Carnegie Center analyst. “But now it is clear that it is the new left.”

l'Enfermé
25th October 2012, 13:15
Worthless market socialists. But not hopeless, they can still be properly educated.

ВАЛТЕР
25th October 2012, 13:17
Worthless market socialists. But not hopeless, they can still be properly educated.

That's what i was thinking too. Anytime I hear "modernized socialism" I get worried. Since it is implying that socialism is somehow outdated and that Marxism isn't relevant.

Die Neue Zeit
25th October 2012, 14:59
Well, Udaltsov wore a Stalin T-shirt during his wedding. Which Stalin portrait did he display? :D

hetz
25th October 2012, 15:07
Good news, glad to see new and beautiful faces for a change. Everyone is tired of old farts and bureaucrats who call themselves communists.
BTW Udaltsov himself once said that he "wasn't for old-shool Bolshevism", I guess he wore that shirt as a provocation or something.

Delenda Carthago
25th October 2012, 16:48
“We want a modernized form of socialism in which the state controls national industry, but not small businesses,” he stressed. “It would be lunacy to attempt to control the activities of every small café, for example.”

They learned nothing from the history of the 20th century construction of socialism in USSR.

redstarradical
25th October 2012, 17:47
A rebirth of socialism in Russia provides me with more hope than Obama.

Dire Helix
25th October 2012, 18:43
A bunch of scummy opportunists completely disconnected from workers movement. Their activity is almost entirely limited to Moscow only, hence the opportunism. Gotta appeal somehow to that demographic of petty bourgeois twats. Don`t want to scare them with some class struggle and revolution bullshit. Nobody and I repeat nobody outside of Moscow gives a shit about any of these; Russian province remained completely indifferent to the recent wave of protests in Moscow and rightfully so.



Communist Nostalgia

Putin once famously called the Soviet Union’s collapse “the greatest geo-political catastrophe” of the 20th century, tapping into a pervasive nostalgia for the Soviet era among the older generation.

And avowed Putin foe Gennady Gudkov, a former KGB officer turned Kremlin critic, told (http://en.ria.ru/analysis/20120907/175829926.html) RIA Novosti earlier this year that he shared the president’s views. “We could have kept the country together,” he said.This is not a pro-communist sentiment in the slightest. What that means is that in their opinion the Soviet Union could`ve been reformed into a federation of bourgeois states without losing its territorial integrity and influence. The abolition of socialism is perceived as a good thing by these types.

The Idler
25th October 2012, 18:53
Unorthodox Trots who want some sort of state capitalism along Bolshevik lines but are ignorant or rightfully too embarrassed about the comparison.
Some are linked to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Socialist_Movement

Crimson Commissar
25th October 2012, 18:54
Oh dear. The terms "Modernized Socialism" or "21st Century Socialism" are never a good sign I'm afraid.

I have little hope that movements like this, in any country, not just Russia, could do anything more than establishing some kind of heavily liberal Social Democratic state than a genuinely revolutionary one. Even at that they'd probably be elected out of office within a decade.

deer_skull
25th October 2012, 19:03
“They all got Marx and Engels wrong,” he said, referring to previous failed attempts to construct socialist states.

Petty-bourgeois revisionists dismissing out of hand complex historic situations.

Geiseric
25th October 2012, 20:44
Unorthodox Trots who want some sort of state capitalism along Bolshevik lines but are ignorant or rightfully too embarrassed about the comparison.
Some are linked to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Socialist_Movement

You're either a trotskyist or you're not a trotskyist... They're calling for nationalization of major industries, which I can't see anybody disagreeing with. Didn't Lenin say as well that some sections of the petit bourgeoisie, the smallest business owners, should retain their small property (i.e. a video rental store) in the first stages of forming a workers state? You guys are being too harsh, we have more in common with them than you think.

These protesters are the reason why we need to adopt the united front as a strategy, to fight for the things that we and they have in common, i.e. fighting to end the wars, and to nationalize the major industries. As we win those, socialist presence as a whole will manifest into a broader and broader mass movement.

The Idler
25th October 2012, 21:37
Aren't SWP (Britain) and AWL (Britain) Unorthodox Trots?
Any movement that does or doesn't manifest itself will be for those ends in themselves unless you explain your object and how it is different, anything else is tailism.

Workers-Control-Over-Prod
25th October 2012, 22:11
there was far too much bureaucracy... They all got Marx and Engels wrong

Well, first of all, LOL. Is this person Ponomaryov saying that every single communist who led a revolutionary country knew less than him about Marx and Engels? Also, the claim that "there was too much bureaucracy" is one refuted a long time ago already. The Soviet Union in fact had less parasites per productive worker than most Capitalist states. If you are going to complain about "the bureaucracy" then you should realize that you are actually complaining about the power the bureaucracy had. If you complain about the power the bureaucracy had then you have to say what should be a different organization of decision making.

Remember, a revolution is not some fun little libertarian field trip where we can take an hour to sit in a circle and get a majority support for whether or not we turn 20% of the national economy to the military needs or not. There rightly needs to be a dictatorship of a class conscious proletarian party that will necessarily develop "bureaucratic" tendencies so long the rest of workers are not class conscious, i.e. so long the Capitalist class still exists and spreads its propaganda.

But besides these points, it is good to see a young and radical left party in Russia. But it is a far way from being a revolutionary movement, this will necessarily take a few more years to build.

Rational Radical
25th October 2012, 22:33
Here we go with the negative stereotype of socialism being state control and regulation again :rolleyes:

Tim Cornelis
25th October 2012, 23:07
You're either a trotskyist or you're not a trotskyist... They're calling for nationalization of major industries, which I can't see anybody disagreeing with. Didn't Lenin say as well that some sections of the petit bourgeoisie, the smallest business owners, should retain their small property (i.e. a video rental store) in the first stages of forming a workers state? You guys are being too harsh, we have more in common with them than you think.

And you call anarchism petite-bourgeois because?

Yet_Another_Boring_Marxist
25th October 2012, 23:40
You're either a trotskyist or you're not a trotskyist... They're calling for nationalization of major industries, which I can't see anybody disagreeing with. Didn't Lenin say as well that some sections of the petit bourgeoisie, the smallest business owners, should retain their small property (i.e. a video rental store) in the first stages of forming a workers state? You guys are being too harsh, we have more in common with them than you think.

These protesters are the reason why we need to adopt the united front as a strategy, to fight for the things that we and they have in common, i.e. fighting to end the wars, and to nationalize the major industries. As we win those, socialist presence as a whole will manifest into a broader and broader mass movement.

Generally, I think that in the earliest transitional periods of socialism the capital obtained by nationalizing industry could easily be used to purchase small business, however the liquidation of these small businesses is still a necessity since "small" can easily become "big" and want the restoration of capitalism.

And it's also important to note that some aspects of a market economy need to be maintained if socialism only emerges in one country because in a global economy withdrawing would only lead to economic chaos. Though it is important that all industry should be owned by the state and the lowest level of production ought to be managed by the workers. Stalin did this even before capitalism reached it's global height and he was able to achieve a Soviet Union with the second highest GDP in the world that was capable of liquidating any capitalist cooperation when it was possible.

Ostrinski
25th October 2012, 23:50
How can anarchism be petite-bourgeois when it reflects proletarian interests?

Os Cangaceiros
25th October 2012, 23:59
Because of the popular Marxist belief that anarchism originally arose out of déclassé petty-bourgeois elements.

The argument no longer makes much sense in the modern era, though, or if it does the same could be also applied to Marxist student organizations, etc.

Anyway, as far as the article goes, doesn't seem that interesting. More idealistic young people, yawn. Most of the USSR nostalgia in Russia probably has more to do with the fact that Russia's transition was such a disaster and really, REALLY bad decisions were made, more than it has to do with people thinking that life in the fUSSR was so awesome.

Geiseric
26th October 2012, 00:27
And you call anarchism petite-bourgeois because?

What does this have to do with that something which I never said? I've said that many petit bourgeois faux activists call themselves anarchist when their views aren't accepted by the wider movement they're part of. I've never said that Anarchism is Petite Bourgeois though.

Die Neue Zeit
26th October 2012, 02:30
Good news, glad to see new and beautiful faces for a change. Everyone is tired of old farts and bureaucrats who call themselves communists.
BTW Udaltsov himself once said that he "wasn't for old-shool Bolshevism", I guess he wore that shirt as a provocation or something.

If he wore a depiction of a younger Stalin, that would be Russia's equivalent of a Che T-shirt, the difference being these activists are serious about left politics.

MarxSchmarx
26th October 2012, 06:27
A lot of the criticism raised, particularly about how no one outside Moscow cares, how they're mostly petty bourgeois idealists, and how they will just create a glorified welfare state if they actually went anywhere - may indeed be valid. But frankly it applies quite aptly to most groups out there. I can think of several sects that, outside of a few campuses and a few workplaces, hardly anyone has heard of them, their policy positions vague and those that aren't are reformist anyway (free tuition! end the war! tax the rich!) and they are basically irrelevant.

I suppose on some level people might hold Russians to a higher standard for some reason, but we're coming on a full generation that has pretty much only known capitalism. It's little surprise to me that they by and large are doing what young leftists in the west do.

Ordnung
30th October 2012, 17:03
Udaltsov and organization of the "Left Front" in general are not communist. They clear the liberals, with some trappings of the communist movement (red tape or pictures of Stalin on T-shirts.) Proof of my words is the full coverage of their activities in the liberal media ... Their primary concern was the victory of the liberals in the winter 2011/2012 (according to Mr. Udaltsov) ...

The Communist movement in Russia today dispersed by 5-6 individual organizations. Greater strength in the last year has gained the communist movement "Essence of time." Long overdue issue of the congress of russian communists to join them.

PS: Putin is a typical liberal. He managed to stabilize the country in 2000, but it does not stop the process of decay in society. This problem is growing. For us the main thing is perfection of "man" and principles of social justice ... Society does not want to live for the sake of consumption, he needs a more global idea.

cynicles
31st October 2012, 00:50
Meh, I'm willing to cut them some slack and give them a few years. We'll see where they go and then re-assess, this sectarian stuff is to exhausting to keep up all the time.

Ocean Seal
31st October 2012, 01:51
Worthless market socialists. But not hopeless, they can still be properly educated.
They aren't worthless they are a movement, a confused movement, but progress does not depend on ideology. Ideology will come out of conflict, and progress.

Dire Helix
31st October 2012, 12:16
The Communist movement in Russia today dispersed by 5-6 individual organizations. Greater strength in the last year has gained the communist movement "Essence of time." Long overdue issue of the congress of russian communists to join them.

"Essence of Time" is not a communist movement in any sense of the word. That much is obvious to any Marxist. Kurginyan is a right-wing apologist of the USSR(like Kara-Murza and Zyuganov) which is a common thing in Russia.

The following organizations are viewed as allies by Essence of Time: Russian Orthodox Church, People`s Council(Narodniy Sobor in Russian; it`s a Russian analog of Hungarian Jobbik and Greek Golden Dawn parties) and The Union of Russian Citizens(no idea who these clowns are).

Pravda
31st October 2012, 13:50
So, is there any good communist organization in Russia today?

hetz
2nd November 2012, 01:44
So, is there any good communist organization in Russia today?

Yes, there are several good ones.
But there are also bad ones, like the CPRF or Nazbols...

RedSonRising
2nd November 2012, 03:08
I don't see cause for such ready dismissal of a group just because they want to "modernize" the concept of socialism. Sure, I'd prefer a focus on the language of Marx in terms of class empowerment and a shift in social relations in order to establish a democratized economy, but at the same time, there are advantages to be had as a Russian youth group attempting to disassociate themselves in part with the USSR. There's nothing "petite-bourgeois" with acknowledging that the Soviet Union did not quite work out like most socialists would have wanted it to.

Crux
2nd November 2012, 13:56
The RSM are an amalgation of two groups that left the russian CWI. Given their reasons for leaving (nationalist illusions in russia during the russian-georgian war, ironically opposition to the slogan of nationalizations) I can't say I think too highly of them. But in landscape of the russian left I suppose they are comparatively not as bad as most.

B.K.
5th November 2012, 02:56
So, is there any good communist organization in Russia today?

RSD, "Rot Front", also AD and MSA (if you interested in anarchism as well). Left Front isn't that bad too (at least they're not KPRF...)


The following organizations are viewed as allies by Essence of Time: Russian Orthodox Church, People`s Council(Narodniy Sobor in Russian; it`s a Russian analog of Hungarian Jobbik and Greek Golden Dawn parties) and The Union of Russian Citizens(no idea who these clowns are).

Narodny Sobor isn't an analogue of Jobbik or GD (we don't have such consolidated nazi party, which is VERY fortunate), they're just extreme religious conservatives who are somewhat loyal to Putin's government. Rather an analogue of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood. However, I completely agree that Kurginyan isn't a communist at all, and his supporters are useful idiots in service of Putin. They're incredibly annoying, BTW.

Personaly I have high hopes for RSD, but aren't eager to join them because of some ideological disagreements. However, they are one of the few real communists in Russia, who are prerry active in workers' movement, and aren't leaderists or crypto-monarchists.

http://cs302407.userapi.com/v302407714/530e/ztlvBLrK9zQ.jpg
http://anticapitalist.ru/img/1.05RSD/spiter3.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/Isabel_Magkoeva.jpg