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Jas0n
17th October 2012, 01:51
I can't say how thrilling it is to have found this forum.

It is recommended somewhere in the stickies or FAQs that I introduce myself by identifying just where on the Left I stand. I am not sure as yet - but this site appears to be a tremendous resource as to the goal of learning and deciding.

I grew up in the midwest, but my family is comprised mostly of progressive-thinking but poor white folks from Louisiana. The tendency to generally vote Democrat is something which comes naturally. Of course status quo Democrat ideology is ... well, pretty worthless.

A few years ago I discovered Ayn Rand and was taken by her ethical arguments, which seriously challenged my previously-held political convictions. However, more recently I've rejected her ethics (and therefore, of course, her political and economic arguments). This has left a certain vacuum which I have struggled to fill. I tend to think systematically but am now questioning as to whether or not that is a liability.

At this time I fail to see a good argument for any particular ethics, but to say that one's politics and economics ought to follow from one's ethics does make sense. (The way one views proper interaction between two people ought to be reflected in the way one views proper interaction between larger bodies of people, and separating a person or a people's actions from their economic interests is an absurdity in and of itself.)

But I can see clearly the impropriety of the abuse (and I am using the cleanest adjective I can muster there) of the poor by the rich, and I can see clearly the error in the ways of those lower classes who so slavishly support the very system that crushes them. I've always liked the expression "horse and sparrow economics" as a means of describing capitalism.

Therefore as a sparrow who wishes to see his fellow sparrows thrive, self-govern, live well ... I'm looking.

This is an admittedly poor introduction and frankly I think I've done myself something of a disservice by it, but will hit "Submit" shortly nonetheless.

Jimmie Higgins
17th October 2012, 14:26
Welcome.

From an interest in objectivism to an interest in "collectivism" - quite a jarring switch. Well I hope you find some interesting threads and discussions - don't worry about the jargon or bickering, it happens whenever people of a specific interest talk amongs themselves:lol:

bad ideas actualised by alcohol
17th October 2012, 14:34
RevLeft is a broken home.

Hit The North
17th October 2012, 14:57
RevLeft is a broken home.

More like an orphanage.

bad ideas actualised by alcohol
17th October 2012, 14:59
I think we should change RevLeft from broken home into a commune.

Questionable
18th October 2012, 01:21
Wow, you sound EXACTLY like me. I also went through a phase where I was into Ayn Rand. I was convinced everyone who was poor deserved exactly that and that all morality could be divided into good/evil somehow.

Anyway, good to have you here.

Jesus Saves Gretzky Scores
18th October 2012, 01:30
Oh were just wonderful here, welcome aboard!