Dumb Shit RevLefters Say

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Because revlefters can be fucking stupid, so they deserve a thread like any other group of people.

[Art Vandelay]

Anyone remember that thread where that dude called be a "pro-nazi piece of shit?"

That was pretty dumb.

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Anyone remember that thread where that dude called be a "pro-nazi piece of shit?"

That was pretty dumb.

As of yet, He is the only one to ever deserve a spot in my signature.

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Saying Kautsky went renegade is leninist propaganda.- someone in a thread not so long ago

[cynicles]

As of yet, He is the only one to ever deserve a spot in my signature.
I didn't know 9mm was acquainted with Hoxha.

[Art Vandelay]

I didn't know 9mm was acquainted with Hoxha.

:confused:

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

I didn't know 9mm was acquainted with Hoxha.


Ok,maybe not the only one.

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Thinking about stupid shit, whatever happened to that Blanquist guy?
Didn't he make a post once about Trotsky being the greatest in everything?

[The Jay]

Can I be in your signature?

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Can I be in your signature?

That place is reserved for praise and insults towards me.
Strangely enough only the insult part has happened. :rolleyes:

[maskerade]

"well, actually, Marx/Lenin/Stalin/Trotsky/Mao said..."

[Ostrinski]

Negative Creep is a people's hero.

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

“Dear friends”...“And don't you think that the best way to overthrow capitalist governments in this world is the Hugo Chavez Socialism from Above way done thru elections, by a populist strong leader like Hugo Chavez rising to power, and leading nations toward socialism, slowly first with regulated capitalism, and then nationalization of corporations, little by little, step by step? Instead of the absurd preaching of anarchists, trotskists and the sectarian crazy ultra-leftists who claim that the only way to overthrow capitalism is for the working class to unite and overthrow capitalist armies and capitalist governments just like Leon Trotsky, Rosa Luxemburg and other orthodox dogmatic marxist writters claimed?”-Trotskistmarx

[Ostrinski]

Lmao, I remember that thread. Twas a good laugh.

[Ostrinski]

Who remembers this:

http://www.revleft.com/vb/anarchists-and-nambla-t169247/index.html

THE NAMBLA COMMUNE

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Anyone remember that thread where Ismail and Rafiq where having a discussion and Rafiq started using giant fonts?

[The Douche]

Man the shit you guys remember is nowhere near as cool as the shit that used to go down. I'll wait for some old heads to post in here.

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Well, the site used the be called Che-Lives so I would expect everything that is really old to be considered dumb shit.

[Art Vandelay]

Man the shit you guys remember is nowhere near as cool as the shit that used to go down. I'll wait for some old heads to post in here.

Grace us youngin's with stories cmoney.

[maskerade]

WHERE IS THEVEGANMARXIST???? haven't seen this dude in ages. he was lots of fun and usually inspired some inspired threads, if you know what I mean.

[Caj]

Post 52, in addition to literally everything else TheRedAnarchist23 posted.

[The Douche]

WHERE IS THEVEGANMARXIST???? haven't seen this dude in ages. he was lots of fun and usually inspired some inspired threads, if you know what I mean.

He used to be called TheVeganAnarchist and I lost my motherfucking mind over it, since he was not an anarchist, and me and another poster berated him until he changed his name.


Well, the site used the be called Che-Lives so I would expect everything that is really old to be considered dumb shit.

Y'know, I always thought that was weird back in the day. Especially since the site is owned by a council communist, and back then all stalinists (or stalin kiddies as we called them) were restricted. But maoists were still allowed to post.

[maskerade]

He used to be called TheVeganAnarchist and I lost my motherfucking mind over it, since he was not an anarchist, and me and another poster berated him until he changed his name.



Y'know, I always thought that was weird back in the day. Especially since the site is owned by a council communist, and back then all stalinists (or stalin kiddies as we called them) were restricted. But maoists were still allowed to post.

I remember when he was TheVeganAnarchist, i was just a lurker back then, but I have to say he was one of the main reasons I kept visiting the site. Interesting fellow is all I will say.

As for the second point: what on earth went wrong??

[Os Cangaceiros]

There's piles and piles of dumb shit to be found in the Revleft's Greatest Hits thread, stickied in chit-chat. Just some self-promotion for a thread of mine.

[The Douche]

I remember when he was TheVeganAnarchist, i was just a lurker back then, but I have to say he was one of the main reasons I kept visiting the site. Interesting fellow is all I will say.

As for the second point: what on earth went wrong??

I dunno, I don't remember how it changed, I think it must've happened in the period where I didn't use revleft. Cause I was a poster here when I was younger (like, 15, 16, 17) and then I left and came back when I was like 20ish.

[Ismail]

Some random CC stuff.

TC: "I'm withdrawing my support given his reactionary position on drug use and distribution."
Túpac Amaru II: "He's pro-drug use?"
Coggeh: "Hes anti-drug use?"
Túpac Amaru II: "Me too, drugs are for hippies"

Kassad, years ago, before he began accusing others of sexism: "Palestine is currently occupied. The Iraqi people are being oppressed by American imperialism. Women are not paid fairly or respected in the workplace. Racism allows minorities to be killed by the police around the clock without even a second glance. Workers are being forced to accept drawbacks because employers lie to them. But someone just used the word '****' on an online forum. The real struggle begins."

And now other stuff:

Dimentio: "Good luck in the 2010 US Congress elections, American Party of Labor. I am certain the American workers overwhelmingly will support a party upholding a dead Albanian dictator."

Kayser_Soso: "Oh shit! That was precisely our plan, to run Enver Hoxha against Palin and Obama in 2012. I am going to go convert to Mormonism now, thank you for showing me the way."
===
KurtFF8: "UNICEF confirms that Cuba is the only country in Latin America and the Caribbean that child malnutrition has been eliminated."

h0m0revolutionary: "It'd be extra nice if those kids grew up with sexual, political and artistic freedom."

Soldier of Life: "I'm sure the gay people in Cuba would rather the way things are now in Cuba, than to lying in some gutter starving under capitalism and allowed to circle jerk each other all they like."

[....]

h0m0revolutionary: "Neo-Liberalism can deliver healthy children, it can educate them, it can feed them, it can clothe them and leave them fully contented."

Intelligitimate: "Speak for your fucking self. I don't oppose capitalism out of some stupid, petty-bourgeois, knee-jerk reaction to privilege. I oppose capitalism because it most certainly is not capable of helping the vast majority of humanity. That you would suggest something so profoundly ignorant and stupid is the height of petty-bourgeois idealism. You're a disgusting, selfish piece of shit."

[Art Vandelay]

Kassad, years ago, before he began accusing others of sexism: "Palestine is currently occupied. The Iraqi people are being oppressed by American imperialism. Women are not paid fairly or respected in the workplace. Racism allows minorities to be killed by the police around the clock without even a second glance. Workers are being forced to accept drawbacks because employers lie to them. But someone just used the word '****' on an online forum. The real struggle begins."

Bahahaa :laugh:

[Ocean Seal]

http://www.revleft.com/vb/ban-purge-apologists-t175342/index.html
OP:Purge apologists should be banned because the purges were awful and we don't want to repeat them.
What about Kronstadt apologists
OP: um
Should we also ban those who support individual terrorism?
OP:Yep

[Os Cangaceiros]

http://www.revleft.com/vb/ban-purge-apologists-t175342/index.html
OP:Purge apologists should be banned because the purges were awful and we don't want to repeat them.
What about Kronstadt apologists
OP: um
Should we also ban those who support individual terrorism?
OP:Yep

LOL, I love post #28 in that thread..."The only justifications that Stalinists have for the purges is heavily ideological propaganda! What's that, Kronstadt?" *utilizes ideological Trot talking points to justify*

[Questionable]

Two pages and no one has brought up daft punk yet? Goddamn, guys.

[Grenzer]

Anyone remember that thread where Ismail and Rafiq where having a discussion and Rafiq started using giant fonts?

Yes. I loved that one.

He also compared Hoxhaism to being shit on, and then had pictures of people getting shit on by birds. I still bring that one up to Ismail from time to time.



Especially since the site is owned by a council communist, and back then all stalinists (or stalin kiddies as we called them) were restricted. But maoists were still allowed to post.

I thought this site was owned by a Zionist. How are council communism and Israeli nationalism compatible?

[Questionable]

Yes. I loved that one.

He also compared Hoxhaism to being shit on, and then had pictures of people getting shit on by birds. I still bring that one up to Ismail from time to time.

Damn, can I get a link to this?

[Grenzer]

Damn, can I get a link to this?

Here it is. (http://www.revleft.com/vb/why-am-titoist-t163681/index6.html?highlight=titoism)

[Questionable]

While I was searching for Rafiq vs. Ismail fights I found this gem.


Maybe Rafiq can go ask all the Albanians he knows if they knew anyone tortured for having a banana, or if they themselves huddled around late at night talking of the glory that is the banana.

[The Douche]

Yes. I loved that one.

He also compared Hoxhaism to being shit on, and then had pictures of people getting shit on by birds. I still bring that one up to Ismail from time to time.



I thought this site was owned by a Zionist. How are council communism and Israeli nationalism compatible?

Do you really think Malte is a zionist, or are you just being hyperbolic?

[Manic Impressive]

ah, CU forum.
don't mean to piss on anyone's cornflakes but I don't think you're allowed to post stuff from the CU in the main forum. I have seen people sent to the naughty step for that.

[Workers-Control-Over-Prod]

I remember daftpunk's post about Trotsky (and i paraphrase), 'Trotsky was the best revolutionary every, he came up with the theory that described the 20th century'.

[Ostrinski]

don't mean to piss on anyone's cornflakes but I don't think you're allowed to post stuff from the CU in the main forum. I have seen people sent to the naughty step for that.Oh shit, I'll delete it

[Zealot]

I remember daftpunk's post about Trotsky (and i paraphrase), 'Trotsky was the best revolutionary every, he came up with the theory that described the 20th century'.

"Are you a beginner at politics? Trotsky is the world's foremost revolutionary theoretician, a genius who was right most of the time and occasionally wrong, responsible for the Russian revolution and the theory to explain the 20th century." - daft punk

http://www.revleft.com/vb/showpost.php?p=2417821&postcount=26

[Zealot]

Well this one wasn't on Revleft but it was something Trotskistmarx said on one of his blogs:

"Beware of http://www.revleft.com (http://www.revleft.com/), it is not a real leftist forum, it is a stalinist, USSR, soviet empire, dogmatic, revisionist, fascist website. They banned me because i said "God bless America" and critisized Israel ."

http://tennessee-trotskist-party.blogspot.com/2008/04/beware-of-httpwwwrevleftcom-it-is-not.html

[Prometeo liberado]

Take almost anything from the Rafiq vs Ismael throwdown/crying fest.
At moments I was torn between permanent self sexual asphixiation or forcing myself to open the door when those guys wearing short sleeve shirts and ties come knocking.

[ВАЛТЕР]

What ever happened do that awesome troll thread? Where the guy goes on and explains how out of so many users only so many post or something like that. I remember it being hilarious. It used to be stickied I think.

I think DAFTPUNK takes the cake when it comes to being a fanatical Trotskiest. Like the guy was creepily obsessed with him.

Also, TrotskistMarx always said some pretty ridiculous things, and the fact that he started with "Dear friends" always made me think he saw us as his friends and then I would feel bad for him.

[RedAnarchist]

What ever happened do that awesome troll thread? Where the guy goes on and explains how out of so many users only so many post or something like that. I remember it being hilarious. It used to be stickied I think.

http://www.revleft.com/vb/laughable-forum-laughable-t153446/index.html?t=153446.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

I remember a quote from TrotskistMarx which went along something like this (the conversation was about Bradley Manning I believe).

User 1: But Jesus won't save him...
TrotskistMarx: "No, but Che will, have faith comrade."

Then there was that time the same user said something along the lines of "May god, Che, Trotsky and Marx bless you all" (Paraphrase).

Thinking back to my own words when I was first lurking here as an ultra-conservative I remember I supported the nuking of Japan during the war... ah, fond memories of absurdities.

[Igor]

http://www.revleft.com/vb/laughable-forum-laughable-t153446/index.html?t=153446.

that must be the most liked forum post ever or something

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

I remember a quote from TrotskistMarx which went along something like this (the conversation was about Bradley Manning I believe).

User 1: But Jesus won't save him...
TrotskistMarx: "No, but Che will, have faith comrade."

Then there was that time the same user said something along the lines of "May god, Che, Trotsky and Marx bless you all" (Paraphrase).

Thinking back to my own words when I was first lurking here as an ultra-conservative I remember I supported the nuking of Japan during the war... ah, fond memories of absurdities.


Don't worry comrade, if I look back at the posts I made in my first month (which isn't that long ago) I get the urge to rip my hair out and bang my head against a wall.
Some users probably still have that when they see my current posts.
You were a Glenn Beckian right?

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

that must be the most liked forum post ever or something

I suggest we change that., so if we just all thank my post, that would be kind of cool.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

Don't worry comrade, if I look back at the posts I made in my first month (which isn't that long ago) I get the urge to rip my hair out and bang my head against a wall.
Some users probably still have that when they see my current posts.
You were a Glenn Beckian right?

Yup, a hard core one... probably to the extent that daft punk was a Trotskyist (Which is saying something)...

This thread explains it all: http://www.revleft.com/vb/glenn-lenin-my-t168141/index.html?p=2369958#post2369958

[Igor]

basically every thread ever which is about sexism or racism in modern west and countries that aren't saudi arabia or apartheid era south africa

[Raúl Duke]

I remember that when the CC was around there would always be these big shit-show crusades whether on a particularly group (Hoxhaists) or particular people (ComradeMan I believe, for being some sort of zionist) that got really heated.

[Art Vandelay]

I have heard that the cc was like having prison gangs on revleft.

[The Douche]

I have heard that the cc was like having prison gangs on revleft.

More like high school cliques.

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Everything went downhill since CC is gone, it seems.

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

I've heard CC could break bricks dialectically.

[The Douche]

I've heard CC could break bricks dialectically.

More like, break the spirit of posters.

[Caj]

I remember a quote from TrotskistMarx which went along something like this (the conversation was about Bradley Manning I believe).

User 1: But Jesus won't save him...
TrotskistMarx: "No, but Che will, have faith comrade."

That was actually me who said that (as a joke), not TrotskistMarx. He did say this (http://www.revleft.com/vb/showpost.php?p=2370441&postcount=1) though in that same thread.

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

What happened to Che Y Marijuana?
I tried to search for posts by him, but nothing came up.
Y'know, speaking of the old days.
Seriously though, I could probably recall some pretty ridiculous shit he's said IRL. He's totally the poster boy for why you shouldn't drink and trotskyism.

[Art Vandelay]

Was TM just a troll? Or was he serious (in which case I feel really bad for him).

[Caj]

Was TM just a troll? Or was he serious (in which case I feel really bad for him).

I think he was serious. Otherwise he was an incredibly dedicated troll.

[Manic Impressive]

Was TM just a troll? Or was he serious (in which case I feel really bad for him).
He seemed to me that he might have had some learning disabilities or something. So we maybe shouldn't be taking the piss too much.

[PC LOAD LETTER]

Was TM just a troll? Or was he serious (in which case I feel really bad for him).
Like Manic said, I get the impression he wasn't all there, so I felt bad for him more than anything ... :(

[Robespierres Neck]

Everything I've posted.

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Everything I've posted.

That's not true, one time you wondered whether or not I still remembered you.
That post was pretty good.
for the other ones, yeah.;)

[Robespierres Neck]

That's not true, one time you wondered whether or not I still remembered you.
That post was pretty good.
for the other ones, yeah.;)

Hey there, Negative Creep! I found out the other day that your username is from a Nirvana song, correct?

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Hey there, Negative Creep! I found out the other day that your username is from a Nirvana song, correct?

Yes.
Your name is a reference to guillotines right?

[Prometeo liberado]

Kassad! Wow! I haven't heard of him in months. He was lucky when he posted due to the fact that if you didn't respond fast enough he would have already done a 180 degree turn, as far as his political outlook was concerned, and your retort turned into a post that now supported his new tendency. Exhausting. I had to outwit him by going a bit further and doing a 360. I showed him.:thumbup1:

[Rafiq]

The thread about how we need to block the Sun's rays from reaching earth for some reason, or "block out the sun".

[Ostrinski]

^Yes, workersadvocate. He was a real weirdo.

[Questionable]

I'm about 90% sure that Nihilist Scud Missile is a troll. Every posts he writes is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever read. Like, oh my god.

Is there an ignore feature on Revleft?

[Ostrinski]

I'm about 90% sure that Nihilist Scud Missile is a troll. Every posts he writes is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever read. Like, oh my god.

Is there an ignore feature on Revleft?Yeah, go to their profile and click on "user list" and it's under there.

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

I'm about 90% sure that Nihilist Scud Missile is a troll. Every posts he writes is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever read. Like, oh my god.

Is there an ignore feature on Revleft?

Yes there is.
I remember Daft Punk having a list of people on his ignore list in his signature.

[Ostrinski]

Yes there is.
I remember Daft Punk having a list of people on his ignore list in his signature.I wear the badge of honor of being first on that list.

I think manic expression was second on there, surprised all the Marxist-Leninists weren't put on there.

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

I wear the badge of honor of being first on that list.

I can sort of understand why someone would put you on that list though.

[Ostrinski]

I can sort of understand why someone would put you on that list though.Y:(

[Ostrinski]

He ignored me something really stupid though. I think I said something like "the trajectory Soviet Union's political system wouldn't have changed in accordance with who was calling the shots" or something.

The prospect of his god not being able to save the day on his own was too much for him to handle.

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Y:(

I liked Brospierre better, that's why.
If you changed back to that I would put you on my BFF list, not sure if you want that though.

[Ostrinski]

I liked Brospierre better, that's why.
If you changed back to that I would put you on my BFF list, not sure if you want that though.I might change it back someday. I promised I'd keep this one for at least a couple months though, cause I asked for like a million name changes within close proximity to each other. But I like this one. It's a reference to a character from one of my favorite novels.

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

I might change it back someday. I promised I'd keep this one for at least a couple months though, cause I asked for like a million name changes within close proximity to each other. But I like this one. It's a reference to a character from one of my favorite novels.

No BFF-list for you sir.

[Drosophila]

Kassad! Wow! I haven't heard of him in months. He was lucky when he posted due to the fact that if you didn't respond fast enough he would have already done a 180 degree turn, as far as his political outlook was concerned, and your retort turned into a post that now supported his new tendency. Exhausting. I had to outwit him by going a bit further and doing a 360. I showed him.:thumbup1:

His politics never really changed. He just went from being an ultra-Brezhnevite to being a Spartacist. Same thing.

[Q]

that must be the most liked forum post ever or something

There was once a video parody made, using the Untergang meme, that was taking the piss out of some CC drama llama. I can't access the CC anymore, but it probably still holds the record in "thanks" points.

Here is it:

ApoiZz4X8jU

And afterwards I made an attempt at it myself, using a more original Stalin meme, which also was quite favored, but can't find it back right now.

Besides that, I also just refound The Best Ad Ever made for Revleft, by Black Sheep, enjoy:

TgTikifxVLE

[Jesus Saves Gretzky Scores]

CC?

[Q]

CC?

Commie Club: A subforum that once acted as a "democratic" outfit of revleft. Users had a say in policy, who got banned, etc. It was also prone to cliques, ragewars and more of such beautiful things. All members were coopted and the rest of the forum membership couldn't even view the forum.

Ah, the good old days.

[The Douche]

His politics never really changed. He just went from being an ultra-Brezhnevite to being a Spartacist. Same thing.

I am facebook friends with him, so I got to experience him being a member of the RCP.

I don't understand why he doesn't post here anymore. And he's not a spart, he always refers to them on facebook as "the then revolutionary spartacist league". (emp. mine)

[Yuppie Grinder]

“Dear friends”...“And don't you think that the best way to overthrow capitalist governments in this world is the Hugo Chavez Socialism from Above way done thru elections, by a populist strong leader like Hugo Chavez rising to power, and leading nations toward socialism, slowly first with regulated capitalism, and then nationalization of corporations, little by little, step by step? Instead of the absurd preaching of anarchists, trotskists and the sectarian crazy ultra-leftists who claim that the only way to overthrow capitalism is for the working class to unite and overthrow capitalist armies and capitalist governments just like Leon Trotsky, Rosa Luxemburg and other orthodox dogmatic marxist writters claimed?”-Trotskistmarx
Oh darn, I didn't know I was a dogmatic trotskist and not a real socialist for believing in you know, revolution and all.
TroskistMarx was a fucking goldmine.

[Prometeo liberado]

His politics never really changed. He just went from being an ultra-Brezhnevite to being a Spartacist. Same thing.

He was a Maoist for a while as well.

[The Douche]

He was a Maoist for a while as well.

What, its not good enough when I say it?

[Prometeo liberado]

I am facebook friends with him, so I got to experience him being a member of the RCP.

I don't understand why he doesn't post here anymore. And he's not a spart, he always refers to them on facebook as "the then revolutionary spartacist league". (emp. mine)

You don't get off that easy. I need to hear about the RCP experience. The closest I have ever been able to get to these people is a very cute girl who has been with them forever. Obviously she won't give me the time of day so at every demo I'm right there with my patented "hey.......how you been?". Christ how the women............don't go for that line. Anyways, any good stories about my beloved RCP and Kassad?


What, its not good enough when I say it?

Sorry!! I didn't read that post before I posted. But I leave you now with this eloquent masterpiece. Fuck sakes.

[Zealot]

Dear friend, sorry that I wrote this article in caps, I just copied and pasted it from a text document i have stored in my computer. I hope you like this array and list of book writters, and philosophers and political scientists. I also included some movies that you can watch to increase the revolutionary passions and emotions, and music groups. Thanks.


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http://www.revleft.com/vb/showpost.php?p=2374698&postcount=3

I kind of miss having him around.

[The Douche]

I don't think I talked to him much about it (and anything he did say to me, if I did ask him about it would be on him to reveal, since it would've been under the notion that the conversation was between us only).

But he did have a picture of his dorm room door with one of those Avakian posters on it.

I've heard that RCP goes out of its way to recruit attractive girls in order to get the attention of other young people, I'd like to believe that is just a coincedence though. They're not very big out here in the mid-atlantic anymore, during the anti-war movement I saw them regularly (no exceptionally attractive people among them that I remember), but last time I saw them in DC they only had like 5 militants, and they were only repping WCW, back in 06 I remember always seeing the RCYB.

Definitely saw quite a few when I was in the bay area though.

Edit to add, I am not immune from criticism regarding the RCP, I did purchase a copy of that Bob Avakian DVD, it is disappointing.

[Raúl Duke]

why any reasonable person would join the RCP is beyond me...

[The Douche]

why any reasonable person would join the RCP is beyond me...

I tried to think of some justification, but I honestly can't.

I mean, they're the only Maoist party, but every single other Maoist party in the world rejects them. I'm waiting for a new Maoist group aligned with the Canadian RCP to pop up in the states, that should be interesting.

[Prometeo liberado]

I tried to think of some justification, but I honestly can't.

I mean, they're the only Maoist party, but every single other Maoist party in the world rejects them. I'm waiting for a new Maoist group aligned with the Canadian RCP to pop up in the states, that should be interesting.
I do find them fascinating though. Though I never heard of them recruiting hot girls to "fish" for them I would still have trouble actually believing it if it were true. I have met people in Solidarity who went to Berkley with my man Bobby A. They said he showed promise back then. And as for the world Maoist movement disavowing the RCP well all you have to do is read the letter that UCPN wrote to Avakian. Basically it's a kinder, gentler cease and desist letter. A cross between "da fuck?" and "mind your own goddamn business you loon". Yet done so with the usual Party to Party fraternal fuck you style.

Also, read his biography. He constantly refers to disloyal Maoist as Mensheviks. By extension the RCP would be the Bolsheviks and he Lenin. Yup, a lot of head shaking for sure.

[Drosophila]

But he did have a picture of his dorm room door with one of those Avakian posters on it.


Ohhh man :lol:

[Homo Songun]

Whenever I read the phrase "maoist hardman" I immediately think of Masaki Sumitani. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1rKJuOy0eU)

[Ostrinski]

Whenever I read the phrase "maoist hardman" I immediately think of Masaki Sumitani. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1rKJuOy0eU)Same. This guy has just about as good a chance at leading the revolution as Maoist hardmen.

[ed miliband]

guess who...


your implication, that participating in parliamentary politics is fundamentally antithetical to Anarchism is totally bogus

[ВАЛТЕР]

Who here remembers Azula? She was pretty batshit crazy. :laugh:

[Zostrianos]

Who here remembers Azula? She was pretty batshit crazy. :laugh:

Some nice gems:


I also smacked a hammer in the head of another girl once in pre-school, but she deserved it. And they should not have hammers laying around in pre-schools anyway.


You wanted some proposals for how to change male attitudes.
Ok. Here we go.
For example, name girls with boy names and vice versa. Boys should have pink sweaters and girls have blue sweaters.
In kindergarten, prevent the boys from playing with action figures and cars, and the girls from playing with Barbie dolls.
Another idea is to have completely gender neutral child care, where the children would not know the gender of one another.


If people don't change themselves voluntarily, they have to be coerced into it.


I suspect you will need me.
In my first year in primary school, I made myself the leader of my class. I organised a group of girls and boys around myself and pointed out which kids were "slaves" and had to serve us and give us money.
They followed me without question until the teachers intervened and made the other kids gang up on me instead. It was of course wrong of me, but I was just a kid.
Then in team sports, I am often chosen as the team leader because of my leadership skills.
I believe I have lots to offer to the struggle.

:D

[NoOneIsIllegal]

Who here remembers Azula? She was pretty batshit crazy. :laugh:
goddammit you beat me to the punch by just an hour. Came in here specifically to post about her.

But yeah, greatest facepalms and lulz ever from her.

[Zostrianos]

Tradeunionsupporter:


Hatzel Muslims/Islam hate you Commies I should know I embraced/accepted/joined/converted/reverted to Sunni Islam. I hate you Atheist Marxists trying to ally with us and our causes like Palestine ? I hate Communism. Im White American and Anglo Saxon English blood by the way we Muslims are not a race or all Arabs. You Godless Communists got your asses kicked in Afghanistan the Soviet Union lost get the fuck out of our Muslim lands. God bless the Mujahideen God bless the Taliban God bless Osama Bin Laden.

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Horrible troll, after one post he gets banned. You have to be more subtle.
Like a dot after every word (blanquist).

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

I don't think I ever really liked ichneumon (http://www.revleft.com/vb/member.php?u=11796). I don't recall anything particularly egregious said by him, he was just fucking mediocre in every respect.

[Quail]

Palingenisis came out with some pretty dumb/crazy shit before she was banned, but I think a lot of people who get banned make dumb posts.

One of the most irritating dumb things people come out with that always comes up in threads about street harassment is, "So you're saying that men can't have a conversation with women without harassing them?" or, "Well I know a woman who likes being cat-called, so therefore you women should shut up and enjoy being cat-called too." (Or words to that effect.)

[ComradeOm]

Too many episodes of madness to recount. Still, Ismail's report to the plenum of the 17th Party Congress does stick in the mind for being both crazy and genuinely disturbing. Unfortunately I can't find the text itself (at least not from anywhere that I'm allowed link to) but Google did throw this gem up:

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/23783032.jpg

[Dennis the 'Bloody Peasant']

Maybe half of anything I've said...

EDIT - Including this post

[Manic Impressive]

Tradeunionsupporter:
He was another one who was obviously either unwell or not fully functioning. I just can't believe he was actually trolling.


Maybe half of anything I've said...

EDIT - Including this post
Nah man you're pretty cool

[bricolage]

6 pages and noone's mentioned forklifts?

[The Douche]

Palingenisis came out with some pretty dumb/crazy shit before she was banned, but I think a lot of people who get banned make dumb posts.

Palingenisis! I was trying to remember her, didn't she talk about flicking the bean while thinking of Stalin? I'd really like to meet the person that does that.

[Igor]

Palingenisis! I was trying to remember her, didn't she talk about flicking the bean while thinking of Stalin? I'd really like to meet the person that does that.

i don't want to post on this forum anymore

[Ostrinski]

That's pretty damn funny.

[svenne]

"we will win because if we follow the correct political line, even the savagest of bourgeois regimes are no match for us."

Well, uhm. At least he's full of confidence.

[Quail]

Palingenisis! I was trying to remember her, didn't she talk about flicking the bean while thinking of Stalin? I'd really like to meet the person that does that.
Yeah, I'd forgotten about that. I was thinking more her views on kneecapping drug dealers and other kind of crazy positions.

[Ostrinski]

Sounds like an interesting person. I don't really remember her, when was she banned?

[Manic Impressive]

she was banned early 2011 (?) I think but then returned as Red Sun Rising

[Igor]

she was banned early 2011 (?) I think but then returned as Red Sun Rising

i was reading the admin log once and there really is a lot of sock puppet banning going on. how often does it really happen that an active and visible forum user turns out to be a banned member? and i wonder how many still actively post here. maybe even you're one

[Manic Impressive]

Maybe......:ohmy:

Nah if I was going to be a sock puppet there's no way I'd be a straight white male. I'd probably create an epic disguise like coming back as Trotsky's granddaughter then I'd troll all the Trots by making out I'm a stalinist or something.

[o well this is ok I guess]

I suspect you will need me.
In my first year in primary school, I made myself the leader of my class. I organised a group of girls and boys around myself and pointed out which kids were "slaves" and had to serve us and give us money.
They followed me without question until the teachers intervened and made the other kids gang up on me instead. It was of course wrong of me, but I was just a kid.
Then in team sports, I am often chosen as the team leader because of my leadership skills.
I believe I have lots to offer to the struggle.
Yo pretty sure this was lifted straight out of Avatar the Last Airbender.

[Igor]

if i was banned i would def come back as a north korean emigrant teaching you liberals about how great things are in the people's republic

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

if i was banned i would def come back as a north korean emigrant teaching you liberals about how great things are in the people's republic

Why would you emigrate then?

[Igor]

Why would you emigrate then?

because i'm juche mormon. spread the word

[Os Cangaceiros]

For what it's worth (not much), I don't think this guy was trying to be sexist, he clearly just has a poor way with words. I used to want a communist girlfriend, so I just educated the girl I was with at the time, we're still together today, 7 years and counting. We sleep under Stalin's purposeful gaze every night.:)

http://www.revleft.com/vb/showpost.php?p=1718897&postcount=54




Stalin is also uber sexy!

He is definitely the great revolutionary its sweet to think about in the shower...:blushing:

http://www.revleft.com/vb/showpost.php?p=1878176&postcount=10

oh boy...

[Os Cangaceiros]

Also, on the subject of weird Revleft threads about strange sexual preferences, this thread always makes me laugh, esp. the poll response options

http://www.revleft.com/vb/ever-fuck-your-t63411/index.html

[bricolage]

oh man what about that guy that said he was gonna go on hunger strike until he got a girlfriend or something.

[Jesus Saves Gretzky Scores]

Also, on the subject of weird Revleft threads about strange sexual preferences, this thread always makes me laugh, esp. the poll response options

http://www.revleft.com/vb/ever-fuck-your-t63411/index.html

wait wut?

[o well this is ok I guess]

Also, on the subject of weird Revleft threads about strange sexual preferences, this thread always makes me laugh, esp. the poll response options

http://www.revleft.com/vb/ever-fuck-your-t63411/index.html This isn't nearly as funny a thread as I was expecting.
I honestly expected the affirmative voters to tell stories.

also lol "anti choice=restriction".

[Ostrinski]

^Yeah those were my thoughts exactly. Major disappointment.

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Yeah, that had huge potential.
Like when I saw Rafiq post in a thread about love, and I was getting all pumped up about all the things that could've been said, and he just blows it with some simple stuff about love not existing.
RevLeft really disappoints me sometimes.

[o well this is ok I guess]

Yeah, that had huge potential.
Like when I saw Rafiq post in a thread about love, and I was getting all pumped up about all the things that could've been said, and he just blows it with some simple stuff about love not existing.
RevLeft really disappoints me sometimes. I expected him to bring up love of class and its consummation in the gulags

[Os Cangaceiros]

This isn't nearly as funny a thread as I was expecting.
I honestly expected the affirmative voters to tell stories.

also lol "anti choice=restriction".

Yeah, I was also suprised and disappointed at the lack of an outpouring of stories about incestous relationships with close family members. ;)

Only one step removed from a thread about how many members troll the local playground for "dates", LOL

[Brosa Luxemburg]

Who remembers this:

http://www.revleft.com/vb/anarchists-and-nambla-t169247/index.html

THE NAMBLA COMMUNE

Lol, I remember that. Started out as a simple, friendly troll on anarchists and turned into rape apology and a whole slew of other things.

[Zostrianos]

He was another one who was obviously either unwell or not fully functioning. I just can't believe he was actually trolling.


I think so. I mean, you're a normal member for like 3 years, and all of a sudden, out of nowhere, you turn into an anti-Semitic nutcase :confused:

[Questionable]

Does anyone remember the guy that I had false quote from Trotsky as his signature that went something like


My dear Stalin, you and I both know socialism has failed. Let's kill that old fool Lenin and let the foreign capital roll in.

[Kassad]

Man, this thread made me miss this place.

[Zealot]

Anyone remember that Japanese nationalist who wrote tirades about the great satan America? I can't remember his name but he had some of the most hilarious posts next to Trotskistmarx.

[PC LOAD LETTER]

Anyone remember that Japanese nationalist who wrote tirades about the great satan America? I can't remember his name but he had some of the most hilarious posts next to Trotskistmarx.
shinjuku dori (http://www.revleft.com/vb/search.php?searchid=4865075)

[Zealot]

shinjuku dori (http://www.revleft.com/vb/search.php?searchid=4865075)

Ahhh, yes thank you. That guy was just pure gold.

[The Jay]

I have the feeling that this site was very, very different a few years ago.

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Third World Caesarean Socialism

[Prometeo liberado]

Man, this thread made me miss this place.

Da fuq? Can't someone put a bell on this guy so we can hear him coming?;)

[Raúl Duke]

Wasn't shinjuku dori a troll and probably not actually Japanese, etc?

[Crux]

Wasn't shinjuku dori a troll and probably not actually Japanese, etc?
Being a troll and being the real deal are sometimes not mutually exclusive. Oh and thanks thread for reminding me of intelligitimate. God I hated that guy.

[Ismail]

In another one of those "not dumb but in response to dumbness" things, the context of this was Maoists and certain Trots obsessed with Nepal a few years back and proclaiming it THE NEXT REVOLUTION:

Ismail: PROTRACTED PEOPLE'S WAR
Kromando: PROTRACTED ELECTION BATTLE
Kromando: OH THE EPICNESS
Kromando: CLASS STRUGGLE AT THE BALLOT BOX

He's no longer around since, like Intelligitimate, he expressed his views in a... more than blunt manner.

[Prometeo liberado]

Wasn't shinjuku dori a troll and probably not actually Japanese, etc?

Oh yeah! That was epic I say. He was a white ex-sailor from Shreeves Port, LA. I heard.
Sent naked pics of an asian girl to some of us. Would have worked but he tried too hard. I caught on the right when I closed the hotel door and realized it was still just him and I. Got lemons, make lemonade.......:(

[Positivist]

One time Book'O Dead said that Trotsky's only fault was that he was Jewish.

[PC LOAD LETTER]

Oh yeah! That was epic I say. He was a white ex-sailor from Shreeves Port, LA. I heard.
Sent naked pics of an asian girl to some of us. Would have worked but he tried to hard. I caught on the right when I closed the hotel door and realized it was still just him and I. Got lemons, make lemonade.......:(
shreveport




src: ima dirty cajun

[Prometeo liberado]

shreveport




src: ima dirty cajun

What the hell do I know I was making it up as I went along.:confused:

[Red Commissar]

More recent shit


I condemn the illegal occupation of Palestine just like anybody else, but it seems very incoherent to support Rachel actions.
She was obviously trying to imitate the chinese tank man, she was frivolous with her own life and was very immature underestimating the consequences of her actions.
One can only wonder what disease assails the 21th century; because the ones that should be facing the bulldozer are palestinians not 23 years old hysterical foreigners.



Mass deportations and re-allocation of populations in state apartments are also necessary for a communist urbanism.



Muslims, the untouchables.
Who cares if Argentina and Brazil had Usa backed murderous dictatorships too?
Who cares if China occupy Tibet, if Russia occupy Georgia, if Syria occupy Lebanon?
Who cares about copts, zoroastrians, jews, samaritans, druzes?
They doesn't have oil, they doesn't scream and cry aloud near embassies, they try to live their lifes instead of sending their children to die like cattle in Sion or Tyre for the random milita of the decade.


communism and socialism turned into some kind of religion of the illustrated middle class, with Marx as their prophet.




Of course this would require that Arabs stop the killing among themselves, which is something impossible.



It is really surprising to see many americans in the internet criticizing their country foreign policy and read their anti-war discourse; I know it's a cheesy thing to say but their country is a benevolent force in the world and the criticism seems very destructive instead of constructive. What would you do as the head of the federation instead? Wouldn't you occupy central asia too? Why a war like Afghanistan is bad, where schools, airports and hospitals are being built, and Grozny war, where the city was fucking hazed to the ground only for some crappy pipelines, isn't? I never see people criticizing the later.
Just look at a country like Brazil, which doesn't start a war with it's neighbors for more than 100 years, lost Uruguay, lost Paraguay, almost lost the southernmost state, have a lack arable land, is dependent on foreign energy sources, was threatened by Argentina time and time again; yet they doesn't even have a permanent seat at the UN. Such is the case of a "civilized" and "non-imperialist" country.

[o well this is ok I guess]

Man I think Borz said that if something is said by a menshevik it's automatically false.

[black magick hustla]

i <3 palingenesis fuck the h8rs. got demodded cuz' i didn't blew her sockpoppet cover. rip palingenesis u surely are missed

[black magick hustla]

inteligitimate once had a meltdown and said i caused him to down a bottle of whisky

[Os Cangaceiros]

Inteligitimate was one of those guys who used the phrase "anarcho-trots" unironically, wasn't he.

[Ravachol]

At the risk of dragging up a prohibited topic (is it?): who still remembers when RAANistas came in and shitstorms about glued up parking meters and stabbing Leninists rained down from the heavens above? I recall having a good time with those kind of threads :laugh:

[Rugged Collectivist]

Palingenisis! I was trying to remember her, didn't she talk about flicking the bean while thinking of Stalin? I'd really like to meet the person that does that.

Is that really so weird? Have you seen young Stalin?

[Drosophila]

"I believe in the future a Computerized government will be in charge, completely replacing the Bureaucracy and hierarchy, will work as a Vanguard for the Proletariat. Of course by then labor and exploitation would have been abolished." - Havee3333333

http://www.revleft.com/vb/21st-century-communism-t169737/index.html?p=2402796

[Domela Nieuwenhuis]

"I believe in the future a Computerized government will be in charge, completely replacing the Bureaucracy and hierarchy, will work as a Vanguard for the Proletariat. Of course by then labor and exploitation would have been abolished." - Havee3333333


Haha, lol!

The first thing that came to mind:


Three billion human lives ended on August 29, 1997. The survivors of the nuclear fire called the war Judgment Day. They lived only to face a new nightmare – the war against the Machines. The computer which controlled the machines, Skynet, sent two Terminators back through time. Their mission: to destroy the leader of the human Resistance. John Connor; my son. The first Terminator was programmed to strike at me, in the year 1984, before John was born. It failed. The second was sent to strike at John himself, when he was still a child. As before, the Resistance was able to send a lone warrior. A protector for John. It was just a question of which one of them would reach him first.

[sixdollarchampagne]

It would be interesting to know who the (German?) officer in Barbelo's avatar is, and which Reich that officer fought for. The face is very familiar, but I can't quite place it. I'm guessing the avatar is of a German officer, since Barbelo's location is given as Köln/Cologne (shaky logic, I know, but it's the best I can come up with)

[Crimson Commissar]

It would be interesting to know who the (German?) officer in Barbelo's avatar is, and which Reich that officer fought for. The face is very familiar, but I can't quite place it. I'm guessing the avatar is of a German officer, since Barbelo's location is given as Köln/Cologne (shaky logic, I know, but it's the best I can come up with)

Did some reverse image searching.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Canaris


Wilhelm Franz Canaris (1 January 1887 – 9 April 1945) was a German admiral, head of the Abwehr, the German military intelligence service, from 1935 to 1944 and a member of the German Resistance.

False alarm, I'm afraid. :p

[Ravachol]

Did some reverse image searching.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Canaris



False alarm, I'm afraid. :p

Ah yes, such 'false alarm':



During his Freikorps period, he was on intimate terms with the people such as Horst von Pflugk-Harttung who were accused of political assassinations of leaders of the left, and was even accused himself, although later acquitted, of being involved in the assassinations and other crimes (such as his alleged involvement in Rosa Luxembourg's "trial").
(..)
During the period 1935–36, he made contacts in Spain to organise a German spy network there, due to his excellent Spanish. He was the moving force behind the decision that sided Germany with Francisco Franco during the Spanish Civil War, despite Hitler's initial hesitation to get involved in such an adventure. In 1937 he was still a supporter of Hitler, considering him to be the only solution against communism and a hope for the national revival of Germany.


Clowns like that belong to the same type of 'resistance fighters' that von Stauffenberg belonged to, members of the arch-conservative officer-corps who were often the driving force behind the various Freikorps militias. Simply because someone was involved in 'the resistance' in WWII doesn't make them 'one of us' or whatever.

[Crimson Commissar]

Clowns like that belong to the same type of 'resistance fighters' that von Stauffenberg belonged to, members of the arch-conservative officer-corps who were often the driving force behind the various Freikorps militias. Simply because someone was involved in 'the resistance' in WWII doesn't make them 'one of us' or whatever.

I agree, just saying it's not as blatantly Nazistic as it might have seemed at first glance.

[Yuppie Grinder]

Third World Caesarean Socialism

"Lets all use the most obscure language we can imagine and invent lots of words for things that already have words for them and also be as contrarian as possible regardless of whether or not it makes sense." - Fucking Prolecrats.

[Caj]

"Lets all use the most obscure language we can imagine and invent lots of words for things that already have words for them and also be as contrarian as possible regardless of whether or not it makes sense." - Fucking Prolecrats.

Yes, because that will totally lead to "the merger of Marxism and the working class movement!" :lol:

[Yuppie Grinder]

Everyone the world over except for about 20 or so people on this website would think to themselves "What a load of wanky nonsense" after reading the sort of things DNZ and Rafiq write.

[Yuppie Grinder]

Also, it's worker class, not working class. Because nobody says worker class, so it's weirder language and therefore better.

[Ostrinski]

and this is coming from bordigists.

shit I think this is a bad joke

[Tifosi]

Psy on eating Iraqi dogs :lol:

[Yuppie Grinder]

and this is coming from bordigists.

shit I think this is a bad joke

I'm not a strict Bordigist and really dislike the writing style of late Bordiga for the same reason I dislike DNZ's.

[PC LOAD LETTER]

Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight!

[Yuppie Grinder]

Nah, Ostriniki makes a good point. Really, needlessly obscure language is something we should all try to avoid.

[Raúl Duke]

At the risk of dragging up a prohibited topic (is it?): who still remembers when RAANistas came in and shitstorms about glued up parking meters and stabbing Leninists rained down from the heavens above? I recall having a good time with those kind of threads :laugh:
:D
I never forgotten...
I wish they come back!

[TheRedAnarchist23]

At least post #52 was not forgotten, and will last through the ages.

At least I only appeared once.

[Workers-Control-Over-Prod]

Also, it's worker class, not working class. Because nobody says worker class, so it's weirder language and therefore better.

No, i find the use of worker class instead of working class very good. The "Working Class" that owned no own means of production and was wage dependent, mostly did manual low-skill labor. Compared to today, the wage dependent and MoP-less working people are not as materially oppressed as the traditional "working class", but they are still dispossessed workers, proletarians, hence "worker class" is a good substitute in my opinion.

[Workers-Control-Over-Prod]

By the way, here's an update on dumb shit Trozkist-Marx says:


I AM THINKING ABOUT THE NEED OF A UNITED JEFFERSONIAN SOCIALIST FRONT IN U.S.A. IN SOLIDARITY WITH THE BOLIVARIAN-REVOLUTION AND OTHER MORALIST GOOD-INTENTIONED MOVEMENTS IN THIS WORLD.

:lol:

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Has NGNM85 been mentioned yet? Because his intense shilling for the US Democrats is beginning to make me feel fucking ill.


They are the only two options, in that race. That's just an empirical fact. It's like the atomic weight of cobalt. There's simply no other answer that corresponds with reality.

I suspect NGNM85 is one of those people who are actually more stupid than they may at first appear.

[Rugged Collectivist]

Does anyone remember Lt. Ferret? He was a "yellow socialist" soldier who got banned for sexism or something. He used to say some dumb shit.

[ComradeOm]

Robbo just reminded me in another thread of his assertion (http://www.revleft.com/vb/showpost.php?p=1630376&postcount=61) that the number of Kapital reading groups in Petrograd was a good indicator of whether or not the Russian Revolution was socialist

Edit:

To be honest, I dont know quite what would constitute reliable evidence of the extent of genuine socialist consciousness in Russia in 1917 although I suspect the number of reading clubs studying Kapitakl might be slightly more reliable than a vague statement put out by the Petrograd Soviet


:D
I never forgotten...
I wish they come back!They were interesting at first. Less so after they explicitly started trolling the site and chuckling about it back at their treehouse. Still, it was fun to occasionally try to pin one of them down on what their politics actually was - the response was usually a garbled regurgitation of whatever French philosophy was flavour of the month

[ed miliband]

Has NGNM85 been mentioned yet? Because his intense shilling for the US Democrats is beginning to make me feel fucking ill.



I suspect NGNM85 is one of those people who are actually more stupid than they may at first appear.


i posted this 'un:


your implication, that participating in parliamentary politics is fundamentally antithetical to Anarchism is totally bogus

i can't read his threads anymore tbh. he's impossible to argue with, insisting on "correct" definitions for every term you might use (though "correct" in this sense means his definition), constantly using the same little lines ("actually, i'm more radical than marx, at least the mature marx of capital" -- how many times has he said that? i've lost count), not to mention his erratic grammar (;;;;;,,;;;,,,,;;;). without even getting to the substance of his arguments, if you can call it "substance", it's a frustrating experience.

my favourite ngnm85 moment was when i recommended lucien van der walt and michael schmidt's 'black flame' as a solid study of anarchism; heavily referenced, theoretical, full of historical details that are found in very few - if any - other books currently available to the public. i posted a number of critical reviews that have been produced by others in the anarchist / ultra-left milieu which basically said "yeah, best book on anarchism available, but maybe x, y, and z could be better". ngnm turned around and said, that it was impossible for 'black flame' to be the best book on anarchism because peter marshall's 'demanding the impossible' (a book that includes religious nuts, margaret thatcher, che guevara and others in its definition of anarchims), and that it had more pages that 'black flame' so it was obviously better. didn't have the heart to tell him when 'black flame' is fully published it will have more pages that 'demanding the impossible'.

[Thirsty Crow]

Robbo just reminded me in another thread of his assertion (http://www.revleft.com/vb/showpost.php?p=1630376&postcount=61) that the number of Kapital reading groups in Petrograd was a good indicator of whether or not the Russian Revolution was socialist

So you're stalking him now? :D

But yeah I agree that does not make sense, but I wouldn't characterize it as merely stupid but as something which has roots in a deeper problem, the notion of socialist consciousness.

[robbo203]

Robbo just reminded me in another thread of his assertion (http://www.revleft.com/vb/showpost.php?p=1630376&postcount=61) that the number of Kapital reading groups in Petrograd was a good indicator of whether or not the Russian Revolution was socialist



I notice that our liberal friend (and now self confessed pro-nationalist and supporter of NATO airstrikes) has not only failed to grasp what I was saying (I was saying the opposite of what he interpeted me as saying i.e. that the number of the Kapital reading groups is hardly a reliable indicator) but equally, and oh-so-predictably, has failed to answer the questions I raised in this post in the same thread he quotes. As follows:

Cut the self righteous waffle ComradeOm. Let me ask you a straight question to which a straight answer would be appreciated

Do you think a majority of the Russian proletariat wanted to abolish the wages system and understood what an alternative wageless socialist economy would entail? Yes or no? No wittering on in your usual fashion. A straight answer please


Once we have a straight answer from you we can then proceed to discuss what level of understanding is required in order to effect a genuine socialist revolution without your predictable jibes that I am somehow suggesting the need for workers to have grasped the intricacies of Das Kapital or the theory of dialectics which if I might say so is rather pathetic. I think old Engels had it right when he said in the Introduction to Marx's Class struggles in France:

"Where it is a question of a complete transformation of the social organization, the masses themselves must also be in it, must themselves already have grasped what is at stake, what they are going in for [with body and soul]. The history of the last fifty years has taught us that. But in order that the masses may understand what is to be done, long, persistent work is required, and it is just this work which we are now pursuing, and with a success which drives the enemy to despair"

So. come on, ComradeOm do tell us how you think a socialist (aka communist) society could come about without the mass of the population understanding what it meant and wanting it. Im all ears

[Flying Purple People Eater]

Does anyone remember Lt. Ferret? He was a "yellow socialist" soldier who got banned for sexism or something. He used to say some dumb shit.
Turns out he was a fash all along. (http://ironmarch.org/index.php?/user/29-ferret/)

[The Douche]

At the risk of dragging up a prohibited topic (is it?): who still remembers when RAANistas came in and shitstorms about glued up parking meters and stabbing Leninists rained down from the heavens above? I recall having a good time with those kind of threads :laugh:

Nope, I have no recollection of this at all.:cool:


They were interesting at first. Less so after they explicitly started trolling the site and chuckling about it back at their treehouse. Still, it was fun to occasionally try to pin one of them down on what their politics actually was - the response was usually a garbled regurgitation of whatever French philosophy was flavour of the month

Nobody in RAAN really liked "french philosophy", if by that you mean Tiqqun. Those of us who are into that stuff, generally apply it as a critique of RAAN, and view RAAN as generally leftist.

[Red Commissar]

Some other dumb shit


It all sounds good to me except the no death penalty part. Sometimes certain people just need to be permanently removed from society.


It's because of people like you who see racism around every corner why racism still exists.

(in response to a news article that social programs were modern day slavery, and thus should be abolished)

I fail to see anything wrong with what he is saying.

(in response to an attempt in Arizona to ban chicano history/literature classes)

"Better" yes. But that isn't saying much.
If this is correct, "The ban specifically prohibits classes which are aimed at ethnic groups or promotes "resentment toward a race or class of people."" Then is that really a bad thing? Do we really want classes that promote resentment towards oh say the Jews? Or would that be ok since outlawing those classes would be trying to stifle some sort of "truth" that the article kept on mentioning but never defining. Neither article ever actually mentions what this class would of been about, simply calling it a "Mexican American studies program" which offers "Chicano perspectives on US history and culture." whatever that means.


And again, what the fuck is a Mexican American?

(in response to an article about the 8th grader who got shot and killed by a cop because he was carrying a pellet gun)

Another thing that should be noted, most cops can go their entire career without ever having to use there sidearm. There is no need for them to become some sharpshooter. That isn't there job. Nor is keeping bullet resistant shields. They are not SWAT. They're cops. And there is no moral duty to keep this punk alive, he threatened peoples lives. Plus it sounds like he was going for a suicide by cop.


Because the US is so free market capitalism. :rolleyes:

(with regards to "left" and "right" political dichotomy)

Hitler was all over the place. A little bit from both sides.


The death penalty isn't murder, unless they was innocent. I'm all for the death penalty as long as it is 100% known that the person did it. The point of the death penalty is to remove a dangerous person from society.

(Troy Davis case, cites from an Ann Coulter site)

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2011-09-21.html

The bulk of the eyewitness testimony established the following:

Two tall, young black men were harassing a vagrant in the Burger King parking lot, one in a yellow shirt and the other in a white Batman shirt. The one in the white shirt used a brown revolver to pistol-whip the vagrant. When a cop yelled at them to stop, the man in the white shirt ran, then wheeled around and shot the cop, walked over to his body and shot him again, smiling.

Some eyewitnesses described the shooter as wearing a white shirt, some said it was a white shirt with writing, and some identified it specifically as a white Batman shirt. Not one witness said the man in the yellow shirt pistol-whipped the vagrant or shot the cop.

Several of Davis' friends testified -- without recantation -- that he was the one in a white shirt. Several eyewitnesses, both acquaintances and strangers, specifically identified Davis as the one who shot Officer MacPhail.

Now the media claim that seven of the nine witnesses against Davis at trial have recanted.

First of all, the state presented 34 witnesses against Davis -- not nine -- which should give you some idea of how punctilious the media are about their facts in death penalty cases.

Among the witnesses who did not recant a word of their testimony against Davis were three members of the Air Force, who saw the shooting from their van in the Burger King drive-in lane. The airman who saw events clearly enough to positively identify Davis as the shooter explained on cross-examination, "You don't forget someone that stands over and shoots someone."

Recanted testimony is the least believable evidence since it proves only that defense lawyers managed to pressure some witnesses to alter their testimony, conveniently after the trial has ended. Even criminal lobbyist Justice William Brennan ridiculed post-trial recantations.

Three recantations were from friends of Davis, making minor or completely unbelievable modifications to their trial testimony. For example, one said he was no longer sure he saw Davis shoot the cop, even though he was five feet away at the time. His remaining testimony still implicated Davis.

One alleged recantation, from the vagrant's girlfriend (since deceased), wasn't a recantation at all, but rather reiterated all relevant parts of her trial testimony, which included a direct identification of Davis as the shooter.

Only two of the seven alleged "recantations" (out of 34 witnesses) actually recanted anything of value -- and those two affidavits were discounted by the court because Davis refused to allow the affiants to testify at the post-trial evidentiary hearing, even though one was seated right outside the courtroom, waiting to appear.

The court specifically warned Davis that his refusal to call his only two genuinely recanting witnesses would make their affidavits worthless. But Davis still refused to call them -- suggesting, as the court said, that their lawyer-drafted affidavits would not have held up under cross-examination.


Not to mention that they found cloths of his at his moms house with the cops blood on it but were unable to use it as evidence do to the way they got it.



:laugh:

He's restricted now though, little wonder why. Seems to've gone off the deep end when he started posting again.

[The Douche]

Some other dumb shit





(in response to a news article that social programs were modern day slavery, and thus should be abolished)


(in response to an attempt in Arizona to ban chicano history/literature classes)



(in response to an article about the 8th grader who got shot and killed by a cop because he was carrying a pellet gun)




(with regards to "left" and "right" political dichotomy)




(Troy Davis case, cites from an Ann Coulter site)


He's restricted now though, little wonder why. Seems to've gone off the deep end when he started posting again.

He's just some weak-minded dweeb who was influenced by the people around him after he joined the navy.

[Rugged Collectivist]

Turns out he was a fash all along. (http://ironmarch.org/index.php?/user/29-ferret/)

Are you sure that's him? He has a really cool avatar.