dumb stuff students say to each other

[ed miliband]

overheard today in the 'smoking area' outside the library -

girl: yeah, my essay is on prostitution and whether it is a form of labour or not, and i'm arguing it is because i'm an anti-feminist.
guy: you're an anti-feminist? oh good. i hate feminism and feminists.

i mean, aside from the hatred of feminists and all, i just don't get how considering prostitution a form of labour can possibly be considered an "anti-feminist" argument.. :confused:

[Vanguard1917]

i mean, aside from the hatred of feminists and all, i just don't get how considering prostitution a form of labour can possibly be considered an "anti-feminist" argument.. :confused:

If feminists argue it's not an ordinary form of labour...

[ed miliband]

but there are many feminists who wouldn't argue that, so...

[Raúl Duke]

My school is filled with students who say stupid things but fortunately I don't remember anything at the moment to entertain you with. :(

We also get a bit of that whole feminism stuff. There are people here who do not know what feminism means. There are some women who say they agree with equal pay, et.al (basically many demands made by feminists) but say "...but I'm not a feminist, they're wrong" or something without saying what exactly they disagree with it (or they say something that has nothing to do with feminism, I think usually they equate it to misandry or something). This is in college, one would expect people to know the fuck feminism means by now.

Now something has come to my memory. So there was this ex-military conservative guy and he was an idiot. During this conversation some progressive minded people were commenting the fact that Obama or someone deregulated (or his failure to regulate) banks or certain companies and the idiot commented that that was socialism, clearly not knowing that deregulating/not regulating something is the farthest thing from any conception of socialism and seemingly running with the idea that anything Obama does is socialism.

[Os Cangaceiros]

The only thing I remember some dumb student saying in college was one time when I went to a very early class (the class started at, like, seven in the morning) and the teacher (of a history class) asked the class if they knew what the significance of today was. The day was 4-20, so there was a bunch of giggling and the professor said, no, not THAT significance.

Then some girl said that it was Hitler's birthday. The teacher said, oh good, how'd you know. And she said it was because "my boyfriend's a Nazi", which the teacher responded to with nervous laughter and said something like "oh, well, that's interesting I guess."

Not really that dumb I guess, but it was pretty humorous in my sleep-deprived state.

[GPDP]

I knew a guy who if I detailed every stupid thing he said, it would probably result in crashing the site from a character overflow.

Right now the one thing that comes to mind was him trying to argue that human races were like dog breeds (this while the professor was trying to argue there is only the human race).

[#FF0000]

"I hate gypsies"
"Oh you know 'gypsy' is an ethnicity right?"
"I hate gypsies but I'm not racist!"

[Nox]

Then some girl said that it was Hitler's birthday. The teacher said, oh good, how'd you know. And she said it was because "my boyfriend's a Nazi", which the teacher responded to with nervous laughter and said something like "oh, well, that's interesting I guess."

For some reason I found that really funny too

I guess it's the total unexpectedness of her answer lol

[Rusty Shackleford]

they have communism in russia right?







one thing ive learned is that being a student doesnt make you smart. and student organizing can be awful. utterly and completely awful at times.


but what do i care? im not a student anymore. :thumbup1:

[TheGodlessUtopian]

"Vietnam was where we fought Hitler..."
-By a friend of mine who lacks, what I thought, was elementary knowledge of world history.

(He also thought WW2 was the Vietnam and Korea (?) conflict.

:bored:


(This on top of all the typical Queerphobic lines one inevitability hears when dealing with young males, my 'favorite' of which being "Fag!")

[The Douche]

Middle aged people in community college course. Fuck my fucking life.

Had a history professor who was nominally leftist, "progressive" I guess you might say, he's talking about the great depression and the dust bowl, and this stupid fucking lady who always said the dumbest shit, starts complaining about FDR and the new deal and how it ruined the country and set us on the path towards socialism that Obama is going to complete etc. Then when the professor puts up those famous portrait photographs from the dust bowl the same lady asks "why didn't the photographer help those people".

She refused to grasp the illogical nature of demanding an individual provide personal charity, but damning the state for doing the same.

The same professor would often try and get me riled up by asking loaded questions and getting some ignorant reactionary in the class to say something for me to respond to. One time we were discussing the Chinese civil war/revolution/cultural revolution and I got a little carried away and said something about him relying on "bourgeois propaganda" or something equally embarrassing, and I felt like a jackass.

But then some girl on the other side of the classroom raised her hand and asked "if we don't care about this stuff, can we just leave?" (it was only 10 or 15 minutes until the end of class), and the professor got super pissed and told her to get out of the classroom and deducted points from her for the day and lectured the class about why people should care about history.

So I guess somewhere, people are probably talking about how annoying I was in world civ 101.

[l'Enfermé]

Re. feminism, most people associate feminism with matriarchy/female-supremacism/whatever, not sex-equality, out of ignorance(or malicious misinformation). "Feminism" is a very misunderstood term.

Anyways what do you mean by "prostitution form of labour or not"? Obviously it's a form of labour. The real question is whether it's productive or unproductive labour, and well, Marx answers this question in chapter 4 of Theories of Surplus-Value (http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1863/theories-surplus-value/ch04.htm).

[The Douche]

The term "feminism" is kind of like the term "anarchism", when a person says it, you never know what they actually mean.

If somebody tells me they are a feminist, they haven't really told me anything about themselves, I've heard everything from "feminism means doing a good job at being a woman, like, cooking and stuff" to real feminist positions, but we also have to remember that many feminist traditions are actually opposed to each other.

[Ostrinski]

Today. Middle aged guy asks my history professor about the nature of the "founding fathers'" of the US religious views. She spends 10 minutes explaining deism to him and then after a few seconds of silence he says "so.... Basically scientology, then?"

Holy shit I was rolling, still am:laugh:

[Rusty Shackleford]

its great to see middle aged people in CCs until you hear most of them :crying:



some guy (my age) was talking to our euro history prof and was doing his report/project/paper on how socialism was dead. Of course i had to but right the fuck in and start arguing :lol:


It wasnt even my conversation.


And sociology classes. THE FUCKING WORST SHIT.

One prof tried to get everyone involved in Invisible Children (before Kony 2012) Another talked about hoe just one person made all the difference (and so i argued against liberalism and great man/individualist thought, like MLK wasnt the only reason there was a civil rights movement, and MLK wasnt the only reason there were victories)

then there was talk about feminism so i rambled on a bit about revolutionary china and the women's councils and socialist feminism :rolleyes:


but fuck, sociology really does suck. do not take it. if anything, anthropology might be worth while. or just keep away from social sciences. that might be your best bet.

[ed miliband]

Re. feminism, most people associate feminism with matriarchy/female-supremacism/whatever, not sex-equality, out of ignorance(or malicious misinformation). "Feminism" is a very misunderstood term.

Anyways what do you mean by "prostitution form of labour or not"? Obviously it's a form of labour. The real question is whether it's productive or unproductive labour, and well, Marx answers this question in chapter 4 of Theories of Surplus-Value (http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1863/theories-surplus-value/ch04.htm).

selma james and mariarosa della costa produced interesting work on this topic.

[#FF0000]

Oh I had some dumbshit military chump bragging about how he lit up a car with a .50 cal and laughing about how it turned out to be civilians.

I doubt it really happened, and the girls he was trying to impress were really, really thrown by that, but yeah college-age marines in particular are human garbage.

[The Douche]

Oh I had some dumbshit military chump bragging about how he lit up a car with a .50 cal and laughing about how it turned out to be civilians.

I doubt it really happened, and the girls he was trying to impress were really, really thrown by that, but yeah college-age marines in particular are human garbage.

Ugh. Motherfuck marines...

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

But then some girl on the other side of the classroom raised her hand and asked "if we don't care about this stuff, can we just leave?" (it was only 10 or 15 minutes until the end of class), and the professor got super pissed and told her to get out of the classroom and deducted points from her for the day and lectured the class about why people should care about history.


She is a true Maoist.

“There are teachers who ramble on and on when they lecture; they should let their students doze off. If your lecture is no good, why insist on others listening to you? Rather than keeping your eyes open and listening to boring lectures, it is better to get some refreshing sleep. You don’t have to listen to nonsense, you can rest your brain instead…”
http://kasamaproject.org/2009/09/22/mao-zedong-if-teachers-are-boring-why-not-sleep-in-class/

[The Douche]

She is a true Maoist.

“There are teachers who ramble on and on when they lecture; they should let their students doze off. If your lecture is no good, why insist on others listening to you? Rather than keeping your eyes open and listening to boring lectures, it is better to get some refreshing sleep. You don’t have to listen to nonsense, you can rest your brain instead…”
http://kasamaproject.org/2009/09/22/mao-zedong-if-teachers-are-boring-why-not-sleep-in-class/

Except it was my wingnut rant that turned her off, not the teacher's lecture.

[maskerade]

First anthropology tutorial I had we were discussing gender roles. One girl started saying how natural it was for women to like pink, giving the example 'when i was a child my mom would let me choose the color i wanted to wear, and i always chose pink. so there you go'. before i had time to reply, someone else chimed in 'yea, i mean, it's just, like, human nature that girls like different things. my mom let me play with my brothers toys but i always preferred the dolls over the cars, it's just how women are'

i didn't say anything, don't think it would have done any good.

Another time in a politics tutorial some guy was saying how good globalization was because it is making everyone richer, and then pulled out this gem: 'i mean, my friends were on a gap year in Africa, and they said everyone there has internet access and cellphones. they were on facebook in zimbabwe, so i dont get people who say it's bad'.

[Vanguard1917]

but there are many feminists who wouldn't argue that, so...

A minority of feminists. Thus the young woman was right in her characterisation of feminists in the main.

[ed miliband]

A minority of feminists. Thus the young woman was right in her characterisation of feminists in the main.

i know you are a spiked online libertaro-trot or something, but there is nothing inherently anti-feminist about arguing prostitution is a form of labour. there is a very developed, theoretically mature, branch of feminism that argues so quite passionately. so yeah, this young woman imagining she was fighting the good fight against feminism, like your good mates at spiked, by arguing that prostitution is labour was being stupid.

[Let's Get Free]

Why, just the other day in a political philosophy class, we were having a discussion about the difference between Plato's concept of justice and Aristotle's concept of justice, and the issue of healthcare came up, and one of the guys in my class said one of the dumbest, most reactionary things I've ever heard. We were talking about Obama's healthcare plan and he said "I know this is going to sound really fucked up, but if you're not smart enough to get a well paying job and save money so that you can pay for your own healthcare, then you deserve to die."

I said "well, you're right about one thing, that did sound really fucked up."

[Vanguard1917]

i know you are a spiked online libertaro-trot or something, but there is nothing inherently anti-feminist about arguing prostitution is a form of labour. there is a very developed, theoretically mature, branch of feminism that argues so quite passionately.

People characterise feminists as viewing prostitution as a specially exploitative and degrading line of work (thus not comparable to ordinary labour), because, well, most feminists, rightly or wrongly, do view it in such a way. All i'm saying is that you might be being overly harsh towards the student, who is, after all, at university to learn. :)

[#FF0000]

i know you are a spiked online libertaro-trot or something, but there is nothing inherently anti-feminist about arguing prostitution is a form of labour. there is a very developed, theoretically mature, branch of feminism that argues so quite passionately. so yeah, this young woman imagining she was fighting the good fight against feminism, like your good mates at spiked, by arguing that prostitution is labour was being stupid.

new idea for a thread: dumb shit Sean Collins says


People characterise feminists

most people characterize feminists as a thing because they are stupid and don't know anything about the thing they talk about. they do it with a lot of things.

back on topic tho

[#FF0000]

Why, just the other day in a political philosophy class, we were having a discussion about the difference between Plato's concept of justice and Aristotle's concept of justice, and the issue of healthcare came up, and one of the guys in my class said one of the dumbest, most reactionary things I've ever heard. We were talking about Obama's healthcare plan and he said "I know this is going to sound really fucked up, but if you're not smart enough to get a well paying job and save money so that you can pay for your own healthcare, then you deserve to die."

I said "well, you're right about one thing, that did sound really fucked up."

"Yo can't wait for you to graduate and die, dude"

[ed miliband]

People characterise feminists as viewing prostitution as a specially exploitative and degrading line of work (thus not comparable to ordinary labour), because, well, most feminists, rightly or wrongly, do view it in such a way. All i'm saying is that you might be being overly harsh towards the student, who is, after all, at university to learn. :)

a fair point, definitely.

but she was a third year (she was talking about her dissertation in relation to this issue), privately educated (well... i don't know that for sure, but i've spent the last year judging by accent and i've not been wrong once) at a russell group university. now that isn't to say first year, state educated, ex-poly students won't have a grasp of feminism -- i'd expect 'em to have one better than hers, that's the point.

[ed miliband]

new idea for a thread: dumb shit Sean Collins says



to be fair tho, spiked do produce some fun articles simply 'cos they are so contrarian, and an ex-revleft legend now writes for them.

[Vanguard1917]

a fair point, definitely.

but she was a third year (she was talking about her dissertation in relation to this issue), privately educated (well... i don't know that for sure, but i've spent the last year judging by accent and i've not been wrong once) at a russell group university. now that isn't to say first year, state educated, ex-poly students won't have a grasp of feminism -- i'd expect 'em to have one better than hers, that's the point.

Well, i still don't know what she said wrong, but life goes on.

[#FF0000]

and an ex-revleft legend now writes for them.

who

can i know

am i allowed to know

it's probably against the rules to name names

but i wanna know

[ed miliband]

Well, i still don't know what she said wrong, but life goes on.

i think the idea saying that prostitution is labour is inherently an anti-feminist argument, to the point of celebrating it as such, is quite clearly wrong. but we'll agree to disagree, and apologies for trolling you as a "libetaro-trot".

[ed miliband]

who

can i know

am i allowed to know

it's probably against the rules to name names

but i wanna know

i ain't gonna name names, but if you pay close attention to spiked and try to recall former revleft users - legends - you'll get it.

[Ravachol]

Most of the stuff that comes out of their mouths, in general.

If life has taught me one thing its that university/college/whatever and the entire facade of ivory towers and dead ritual window dressing that comes with it means fuck all. I know people who've worked in cigarette plants or as waiters all their lives and with home I can have conversation on a far higher level than with almost all university students I encounter. Universities train specialists and nothing but specialists. The, like the school system in general, are mainly a mental straight-jacket which dangles the carrot of a 'stable, "middle-class" job for life' in front of those who can pay for/can be bothered to jump through its hoops.

The whole 'feminist' thing is pretty common among a particular type of girl I've noticed, mainly those who fit in the liberal, 'communication studies' or other professionalist studies niche (complete with the Dutch counterpart of the 'all-american girl' stereotype). Some of the arguments are simply a reflection of the piss-poor politics that pass for popular 'feminism' (ie. all feminists just want us to work more and take on more responsibilities!) whilst others are almost a reflection of the 'self-hating jew' with women publicly embracing the stereotypes and roles assigned to them in order to 'fit in' or whatever.

Students differ, though over here they're usually either die-hard right-liberals, social-democrats, 'greens' or the occasional 'pirate party' technical student whose politics stop when there's no Cat-5 cable involved (though they tend to have an anti-authoritarian twist to them). Most are apathetic though which reflects Dutch society in general, resulting in such gems as the illusion that each and everyone of them is somehow magically going to make over 50k a year in an interesting, stable, 'challenging and innovative' job for life whilst 'the economy is going to recover' either through 'dropping out of the European union and becoming nationally independent' or 'consuming a bit more, being "innovative" and pooring a lot of money into the global south to smoothen out the kinks'.

I've noticed most of what they say (or people say in general) is just rehashed soundbites. When you try to engage with them there's rarely any underlying logic or argumentation and they mostly just pick some soundbites from whatever identity they feel most comfortable with as portrayed in the media and rehash spew it out when some keyword triggers them.

But I tend to avoid students anyway so whatever.

[ed miliband]

really cannot add to that...

[Vanguard1917]

There's certainly less critical thinking and radicalism in universities today than in previous periods. But radicalised students throughout history tended to be products of wider social conflict, namely a working-class movement. Without the latter, you get less of the former.

[ed miliband]

There's certainly less critical thinking and radicalism in universities today than in previous periods. But radicalised students throughout history tended to be products of wider social conflict, namely a working-class movement. Without the latter, you get less of the former.

tbh, i'm not expecting radical students. i know "radicals" and i choose not to spend any time with them, and i rarely speak about politics within my own social circle.

[Pirate Utopian]

Some kid said U2 is greatest band of all time. Which is of course false because U2 sucks.

[The Douche]

Some kid said U2 is greatest band of all time. Which is of course false because U2 sucks.

Checkmate, thread closed.

[Drosophila]

Karl Marx was a Platonist. Worst part? The professor agreed.

[ed miliband]

F-mjl63e0ms

[#FF0000]

Karl Marx was a Platonist. Worst part? The professor agreed.

Reminds me of a time a friend of mine said Marxism was closely related to "duty ethics" of Kant.

he's a really smart dude and doesn't say things anywhere near this stupid so all of us just kind of recoiled and were like "the fuck is wrong with you"

[#FF0000]

oh i just remembered a story from a friend.

This friend and his roommates were havin a lil get together. not a party but a number of people were there and hanging out in this tiny apartment.

One person there was an art major in last year. So, it comes up in conversation and my friend says "Oh, that's cool. You have any classes on aesthetics this year or...?"

and she says "No I did all of my phys-ed electives my first year"

[Nox]

oh i just remembered a story from a friend.

This friend and his roommates were havin a lil get together. Not a party but a number of people were there and hanging out in this tiny apartment.

One person there was an art major in last year. So, it comes up in conversation and my friend says "oh, that's cool. You have any classes on aesthetics this year or...?"

and she says "no i did all of my phys-ed electives my first year"

fuuuuaaaarkk aesthetics brah #zyzzbrah

[Thirsty Crow]

"Once we graduate we'll get a great job and will become the responsible intellectual elite of this society, so why don't you care and study harder?"

I'm paraphrasing a bit here.

I'm off gonna go study real hard see ya.

[Jimmie Higgins]

"The idea for communism in the USSR actually originated with Thomas More, not Marx."

"Yeah, but it's mainstream so it has to be good"

[Igor]

"The idea for communism in the USSR actually originated with Thomas More, not Marx."

idk this one isn't that bad and isn't flat out wrong. but it's indeed true that idea of communism didn't originate from marx and has in fact to do with earlier utopian movements and thinkers, one of which indeed is thomas more. as a blanket statement "idea of communism originated from more" is wrong yeah but the basic idea is kinda true

[Jimmie Higgins]

A lot of idiotic things I've heard from college students really just fit into a category of "dumb things liberals say". But I guess where it's specific to students a lot of stupid statements are the result of people parroting arguments they heard from a professor or read in a book. It's like that scene in Goodwill Hunting where Will mocks the student for parroting arguments from one book he read as if the subject is settled. I mean, sure we can all be guilty of this to an extent, but at least potentially for radicals, our need to actually have accureate ideas because we want to understand the world in order to understand how to change it acts as a counter-weight. But for students, one idea is as good as another and the only practicle application most of the time for those ideas is in helping you get a better grade in the class.

I had an argument once with someone who'd taken a class (I think taught by Todd Gitlin) about US social movements. He argued that radicalism was alien to "the american experience" and that there's never been any significant radical movement in US history. I countered with a list of significant radical movements with a lasting impact in the US. Then he responded by saying that they all ended up helping the right wing and hurting "genuine movements". So they have no impact - except they have an impact but only negative:rolleyes:.

After 9/11 a student called a south asian comrade of mine "Bin Laden". That was pretty fucking stupid.


idk this one isn't that bad and isn't flat out wrong. but it's indeed true that idea of communism didn't originate from marx and has in fact to do with earlier utopian movements and thinkers, one of which indeed is thomas more. as a blanket statement "idea of communism originated from more" is wrong yeah but the basic idea is kinda trueYeah true, but I think they actually ment that the USSR was trying to use Moore as a blueprint or something. But yeah, they probably heard that the concept of communism was not an invention of Marx in some class somewhere and fit a couple pieces of historical triva together in an odd way.

[The Douche]

In a history class there was a girl from Bulgaria sitting next to me, she had lived under CP rule for a little while, and the class was talking about the cold war I think. She said something along the lines of "If America had socialism, it would actually be 'the best country in the world', like all of you think and say it is", people of course scoffed at this and she proceeded to explain that under CP rule everybody had a job/money/place to live/car/vacation etc but that here we don't, and people are needlessly poor just so others can be needlessly rich.

I shit you not, some dude looked her dead in the face and said "yeah, but over there in Russia ya'll didn't have freedom, did ya, heh heh" and looked around with the most smug face I have ever seen in my life. I let out a strange audible noise that was somewhere between a scoff/choking/hysterical laughter/and some sort of disbelieving gibberish.

The professor was dumbfounded, but the Bulgarian girl didn't skip a beat, she just calmly asked him to define "freedom" and to explain what use freedom was in this country if you don't have any money.

[Igor]

After 9/11 a student called a south asian comrade of mine "Bin Laden". That was pretty fucking stupid.

neither of the people in this situation were actually students but yeah still anyways, when my brother was in dublin, he was called out by some local kids that he's a "bin laden" and one of them made the sound of a bomber plane. my brother is a white finnish guy with beard and pretty long hair. clearly, bin laden.


Yeah true, but I think they actually ment that the USSR was trying to use Moore as a blueprint or something. But yeah, they probably heard that the concept of communism was not an invention of Marx in some class somewhere and fit a couple pieces of historical triva together in an odd way.

ah ok well then that's kinda dumb

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

neither of the people in this situation were actually students but yeah still anyways, when my brother was in dublin, he was called out by some local kids that he's a "bin laden" and one of them made the sound of a bomber plane. my brother is a white finnish guy with beard and pretty long hair. clearly, bin laden.



ah ok well then that's kinda dumb

Funny, I remember being in Dublin and calling some finnish bloke with a beard Bin Laden.

[Yuppie Grinder]

"I hate gypsies"
"Oh you know 'gypsy' is an ethnicity right?"
"I hate gypsies but I'm not racist!"

What's as bad is middle class american white people who call themselves "gypsies" because they read new age literature and are all about positive energy.

[o well this is ok I guess]

its great to see middle aged people in CCs until you hear most of them :crying:



some guy (my age) was talking to our euro history prof and was doing his report/project/paper on how socialism was dead. Of course i had to but right the fuck in and start arguing :lol:


It wasnt even my conversation.


And sociology classes. THE FUCKING WORST SHIT.

One prof tried to get everyone involved in Invisible Children (before Kony 2012) Another talked about hoe just one person made all the difference (and so i argued against liberalism and great man/individualist thought, like MLK wasnt the only reason there was a civil rights movement, and MLK wasnt the only reason there were victories)

then there was talk about feminism so i rambled on a bit about revolutionary china and the women's councils and socialist feminism :rolleyes:


but fuck, sociology really does suck. do not take it. if anything, anthropology might be worth while. or just keep away from social sciences. that might be your best bet. Yo man soc isn't bad at all
you just gotta check up on the profs before you register.

[Igor]

What's as bad is middle class american white people who call themselves "gypsies" because they read new age literature and are all about positive energy.

is this actually a thing aaaaaaaaaaa

[#FF0000]

What's as bad is middle class american white people who call themselves "gypsies" because they read new age literature and are all about positive energy.


is this actually a thing aaaaaaaaaaa

yeah it is and i know someone who does it. she is also huge on Día de los Muertos she is a cultural appropriation master.

[human strike]

A number of students I know have said "I will never join the SWP" a few months before joining the SWP.

[Raúl Duke]

It's like that scene in Goodwill Hunting where Will mocks the student for parroting arguments from one book he read as if the subject is settled.

I recall something like this back in high school.

People reading some antiquated philosophy from St. Aquinas, Kant, Greek Classics, or whatever and try to show off how smart and right they are when they were wrong wrong wrong and some also used these philosophies to advocate reactionary things or religion in an illogical manner.

stupid high school pseudo-intellectuals

[Jesus Saves Gretzky Scores]

My friends on my bus are politically stupid. One of my good friends on the bus is a Romney supporter, and has a binder with a sticker that says, "Catholics for Romney/Ryan". He's awesome compared to the liberals who think they're the most intelligent people ever, and Obama is awesome. In response to the sticker, one of them said something along the lines of, "Reasonable/rational/intelligent/functioning members of society for Obama."

[Jesus Saves Gretzky Scores]

I also saw in school today, one of the libraries research pages, "American Government", which of course spewed all types of bullshit like North Korea is communist, and that communist dictatorships can exist, defined bourgeois as the middle class. At least they showed positives to socialism in the midst of it. Not students, but I figured it's at least school related.

[Rusty Shackleford]

I also saw in school today, one of the libraries research pages, "American Government", which of course spewed all types of bullshit like North Korea is communist, and that communist dictatorships can exist, defined bourgeois as the middle class. At least they showed positives to socialism in the midst of it. Not students, but I figured it's at least school related.
must be extremely old text books if the bourgeoisie are the middle class :lol:

[doesn't even make sense]

Yo man soc isn't bad at all
you just gotta check up on the profs before you register.

Yeah most of my soc professors were marxists. Tepid academic marxists but y'know it is what it is.

[#FF0000]

must be extremely old text books if the bourgeoisie are the middle class :lol:

Refers to the French Revolution as "trouble ahead".

[the last donut of the night]

dude in my major posted a link to his blog on our facebook group about the power of crystals or some shit

[PC LOAD LETTER]

This Bro(tm) in a class in my freshman year of college asked for cuddling volunteers when the prof put a movie on for some assignment and dimmed the lights. The three girls closest to him immediately got up and moved away.

[#FF0000]

This Bro(tm) in a class in my freshman year of college asked for cuddling volunteers when the prof put a movie on for some assignment and dimmed the lights. The three girls closest to him immediately got up and moved away.


holy shit i'm laughing forever

[The Douche]

This Bro(tm) in a class in my freshman year of college asked for cuddling volunteers when the prof put a movie on for some assignment and dimmed the lights. The three girls closest to him immediately got up and moved away.

What is a bro in the southeast? Like, fraternities, old money, and brooks brothers clothes?

[Workers-Control-Over-Prod]

Why, just the other day in a political philosophy class, we were having a discussion about the difference between Plato's concept of justice and Aristotle's concept of justice, and the issue of healthcare came up, and one of the guys in my class said one of the dumbest, most reactionary things I've ever heard. We were talking about Obama's healthcare plan and he said "I know this is going to sound really fucked up, but if you're not smart enough to get a well paying job and save money so that you can pay for your own healthcare, then you deserve to die."

I said "well, you're right about one thing, that did sound really fucked up."


Man, the guy is already talking about death, might as well tell him that he should be hanging from a lampost for spreading fascist ideas. Gas Nazis! or something like that.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

Those people, seems youth are more prone than workers per se, who believe that progress can be achieved just by waiting a number of years. This is important in the queer community because I will often hear people talk of "Well, if we just wait 20 years the climate will be better for activism and struggle and we won't have to do much."

FACEPALM!

So fucking annoying. As if they can't see that simply waiting will not produce results. Is in the same vein as the liberal notion that history only progresses and never regresses.

[Raúl Duke]

What is a bro in the southeast? Like, fraternities, old money, and brooks brothers clothes?

Here in Southwest Florida (and perhaps the same in most of Florida):
boat shoes, shorts/cargo shorts, wrap-around sunglasses with strap, frat T-shirt or guy harvey fishing theme shirt or a polo or a tank-top. However, a few frats do their meetings in "brooks brothers clothes." May or may not be in a frat but they all typically hang out together or in similar circles/places.

They're well-off and most likely white. Usually stupid too, but there are exceptions.

[The Douche]

Here in Southwest Florida (and perhaps the same in most of Florida):
boat shoes, shorts/cargo shorts, wrap-around sunglasses with strap, frat T-shirt or guy harvey fishing theme shirt or a polo or a tank-top. However, a few frats do their meetings in "brooks brothers clothes." May or may not be in a frat but they all typically hang out together or in similar circles/places.

They're well-off and most likely white. Usually stupid too, but there are exceptions.

Seems pretty universal to the east coast, though the farther north you go, the more traditional and WASPy you get. (probably cause its closer to the origins of that "scene")

My girlfriend's cousin's boyfriend wears bowties and blue blazers to family dinners.

[human strike]

My friends on my bus are politically stupid. One of my good friends on the bus is a Romney supporter, and has a binder with a sticker that says, "Catholics for Romney/Ryan". He's awesome compared to the liberals who think they're the most intelligent people ever, and Obama is awesome. In response to the sticker, one of them said something along the lines of, "Reasonable/rational/intelligent/functioning members of society for Obama."

I don't believe it's the official church line, but many Mormons consider the Catholic church to be the 'abomination' described in Revelations. It amuses me to hear of "Catholics for Romney".

[Rafiq]

I shit you not, some dude looked her dead in the face and said "yeah, but over there in Russia ya'll didn't have freedom, did ya, heh heh" and looked around with the most smug face I have ever seen in my life. I let out a strange audible noise that was somewhere between a scoff/choking/hysterical laughter/and some sort of disbelieving gibberish.


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[PC LOAD LETTER]

What is a bro in the southeast? Like, fraternities, old money, and brooks brothers clothes?
Here in GA it's mostly hollister/abercrombie polo shirts, tennis visors, and fraternities. Usually drive a BMW in college, or a couple-of-year-old Volvo in high school. Mostly upper-middle-class, but I'm sure there's plenty of old-money bros, I just haven't met that many really rich people. I went to a high school where the "rich kids" parents made probably 80-100k a year each. A few were children of doctors, but those were rare.
They usually play some kind of sport, but the worst ones are golfers. I've met a lot of cool people that happen to play golf, but the worst bros play it, too.