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Questionable
9th October 2012, 06:56
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2012/10/09/north-korea-missile/1621919/



SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — North Korea warned Tuesday that the U.S. mainland is within range of its missiles, saying Washington's recent agreement to let Seoul possess missiles capable of hitting all of the North shows the allies are plotting to invade the country.
Seoul announced Sunday it reached a deal with Washington that would allow it to nearly triple the range of its missiles to better cope with North Korean missile and nuclear threats.
On Tuesday, North Korea called the South Korea-U.S. missile deal a "product of another conspiracy of the master and the stooge" to "ignite a war" against the North.
An unidentified spokesman at the powerful National Defense Commission said the North will subsequently bolster its military preparedness and warned it has missiles capable of striking South Korea, Japan, Guam and the U.S. mainland.
"We do not hide ... the strategic rocket forces are keeping within the scope of strike not only the bases of the puppet forces and the U.S. imperialist aggression forces' bases in the inviolable land of Korea but also Japan, Guam and the U.S. mainland," the spokesman said in a statement carried by the official Korean Central News Agency.
It's unusual for the North to say its missiles are capable of striking the U.S., but North Korea has regularly issued harsh rhetoric against Seoul and Washington.
Still, the North's statement could suggest the country has been working on miniaturizing a nuclear bomb to mount on a long-range rocket, though experts believe the country has yet to acquire such a technology. It could also back up what experts have been suspecting about the range of North Korean long-range rockets.
In April, the country conducted a rocket test that Washington, Seoul and others called a cover for a test of long-range missile technology. North Korea says the rocket, which broke apart shortly after liftoff, was meant to launch a satellite. North Korea conducted underground nuclear tests in 2006 and 2009.
Koh Yu-hwan, a North Korean studies professor based in Seoul, said the North had no choice but to respond to South Korea's extended missile range but it won't likely launch a provocation as it is waiting for the results of U.S. and South Korean presidential elections.
Under the new deal with the U.S., South Korea will be able to possess ballistic missiles with a range of up to 500 miles. South Korea will continue to limit the payload to 500 kilograms for ballistic missiles with an 800-kilometer range, but it will be able to use heavier payloads for missiles with shorter ranges.
A previous 2001 accord with Washington had barred South Korea from deploying ballistic missiles with a range of more than 186 miles and a payload of more than 1,100 pounds because of concerns about a regional arms race.
The Korean Peninsula remains officially at war because the 1950-53 Korean War ended with an armistice, not a peace treaty. The U.S. stations about 28,500 troops in South Korea as deterrence against possible aggression from North Korea.

jookyle
9th October 2012, 07:13
If this gets enough attention in the mainstream media then there's going to be a lot of pressure on washington to do something. People are going to be screaming that we went into Iraq when they had nothing and now North Korea is saying that have weapons that can reach the US mainland. Saying they can reach the US mainland with missiles is really going to open a can of worms, whether action is taken or not.

Sir Comradical
14th October 2012, 00:01
Nice to wake up to some good news.

#FF0000
14th October 2012, 00:07
Haha, yeah, nah.

Os Cangaceiros
14th October 2012, 00:11
I'm pretty sure they've been in range of Alaska for a while now. I've had many fantasies about what would happen if North Korea bombed my house.

Os Cangaceiros
14th October 2012, 00:13
Actually, looking at a map, Alaska and Hawaii aren't that much closer to North Korea than the west coast...they'd do better to try and get a little more missile juice in their rockets and aim for Puget Sound, hitting Alaska totally isn't worth it.

TheGodlessUtopian
14th October 2012, 00:14
Doesn't seem like anything other than more saber rattling.

#FF0000
14th October 2012, 00:15
Yeah I seriously don't think they can do that. Seoul's baby stuff, though.

Ostrinski
14th October 2012, 00:23
I wonder if they think anyone is still buying this shit.

Raúl Duke
14th October 2012, 00:55
I kinda feel all this saber-rattlin from North Korea is a bit old pat that both South Korea and the US, plus maybe Japan, are somewhat used to and take with a grain of salt.

Whether or not North Korea wants to go to war with US, ROK, Japan I feel one has to view a bit of this as just rhetoric particularly if the North Korean leadership made said declaration in public within N. Korea. Since the prevailing ideology is Juche, the military must be seen as strong and able. Although, who knows? It could be that North Korea feels ready or perhaps see a war as a way to release "social stress" within North Korea (although it's uncertain if there's any social "unrest" within North Korea due to how closed it is).

Now, the real question is, does the US want to go to war with North Korea? One thing I always wondered is, if North Korea has nukes, how secure are they? The US intelligence community is probably worried about someone else getting nuclear materials from North Korea and manufacturing a "dirty bomb" to use in the US. Does the US view North Korea as a problem under this "nuclear proliferation" lens? Does it worry them enough to consider military action?

RedHal
14th October 2012, 01:20
The US and South Korea practice war exercises right off the shore from North Korea on a regular basis. Who are the ones that are really sabre rattling?

When North Korea or Iran proclaim they can hit the US with their missiles, it's a defensive move. Do you expect them to sit idly bye while the US flexes its military might right outside their borders? Or do you seriously expect them to send their military fleet to Cuba and practice some war exercises? lol

Sir Comradical
14th October 2012, 09:16
I'm not a fan of all this degenerate hipster jackassery I've seen lately on FB about the irony of a "workers bomb" or some shit. The military defense of the DPRK is extremely important. This isn't a country the US can simply walk over and we should salute the North Korean people for insisting so strongly on their independence and self-defense even if that means having a powerful army and nuclear weapons.

Flying Purple People Eater
14th October 2012, 09:51
I'm not a fan of all this degenerate hipster jackassery I've seen lately on FB about the irony of a "workers bomb" or some shit. The military defense of the DPRK is extremely important. This isn't a country the US can simply walk over and we should salute the North Korean people for insisting so strongly on their independence and self-defense even if that means having a powerful army and nuclear weapons.


....What the shit?

Krano
14th October 2012, 14:39
http://i.imgur.com/P1LUr.jpg

Ostrinski
14th October 2012, 16:06
I'm not a fan of all this degenerate hipster jackassery I've seen lately on FB about the irony of a "workers bomb" or some shit. The military defense of the DPRK is extremely important. This isn't a country the US can simply walk over and we should salute the North Korean people for insisting so strongly on their independence and self-defense even if that means having a powerful army and nuclear weapons.Please stop posting.

Pravda
14th October 2012, 16:13
Probably not true. Even if it is, if they tried to attack USA, South Korea will become an island.

Crimson Commissar
14th October 2012, 20:30
I'm not a fan of all this degenerate hipster jackassery I've seen lately on FB about the irony of a "workers bomb" or some shit. The military defense of the DPRK is extremely important. This isn't a country the US can simply walk over and we should salute the North Korean people for insisting so strongly on their independence and self-defense even if that means having a powerful army and nuclear weapons.

I don't think this is something that any state should be flaunting around, really. And this is one of the criticisms I have of North Korea, their nationalism often drives them to have little regard for the lives of those who live outside their borders.

Though I would agree that it's rather hypocritical for people to be worried about this when the US and NATO could literally strike any target on Earth with their nuclear arsenal.

Yuppie Grinder
14th October 2012, 21:07
I'm not a fan of all this degenerate hipster jackassery I've seen lately on FB about the irony of a "workers bomb" or some shit. The military defense of the DPRK is extremely important. This isn't a country the US can simply walk over and we should salute the North Korean people for insisting so strongly on their independence and self-defense even if that means having a powerful army and nuclear weapons.

Absolutely Not.

Prometeo liberado
14th October 2012, 21:21
If this is true then I say good for you DPRK. All sides are still at a state of war and so long as comments like these can make the parties negotiate rather than actually launching what they claim to have then all the better.:thumbup1:

Let's Get Free
14th October 2012, 23:48
Probably not true. Even if it is, if they tried to attack USA, South Korea will become an island.

Yeah, I don't think North Korea is intent on instant suicide.

the last donut of the night
23rd October 2012, 01:20
I'm not a fan of all this degenerate hipster jackassery I've seen lately on FB about the irony of a "workers bomb" or some shit. The military defense of the DPRK is extremely important. This isn't a country the US can simply walk over and we should salute the North Korean people for insisting so strongly on their independence and self-defense even if that means having a powerful army and nuclear weapons.

i'd like to cordially welcome you all to the loony bin

Ostrinski
23rd October 2012, 01:49
I call for a Democratic People's Bombing of the United States.

Homo Songun
23rd October 2012, 05:10
The US forced Korea's hand by destroying Libya and Iraq after they voluntarily disarmed. Long live the DPRK.

Hiero
23rd October 2012, 06:27
The US forced Korea's hand by destroying Libya and Iraq after they voluntarily disarmed. Long live the DPRK.

After Gaddaffi was ousted from power, Obama said that thatshould send a warning to other similar governments. The only conclusion that so called rogue states like Iran and DPRK could draw from Libya and Iraq is to be more aggressive and build nuclear power. The Gaddaffi government's attempts to accommodate to the west and normalise relations did nothing to stop them bombarding the country when it looked like an armed opposition could replace him.

Zealot
23rd October 2012, 06:56
I've posted this elsewhere but I think it is both relevant and interesting:


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About 37:15 into this video, Tariq Ali makes an interesting claim regarding the imperial strategy for Korea. According to a conversation he had with Ruth Wedgwood, an adviser to Donald Rumsfeld, the US is afraid not of the North but the South. Apparently, the South can't wait to lay their hands on the nuclear arsenal of the North. A unified Korean peninsula with nuclear capabilities, neighbouring a nuclear-armed China, will prompt Japan to develop its own nuclear program and will spark a major shift in the balance of power.