A dutch good-day!

[Domela Nieuwenhuis]

Hello,

I'm Utopist M, 30 years old and i live in The Netherlands.
I'm an Utopianist, an Anarcho-communist and an agnostic. (that's a mouthful...)

I always were a bit of a rebel, but ever since i've read Thomas More's Utopia, i KNOW i'm a communist.
Also, i'm a bit of a pacifist, but not afraid to do anything to achieve my goals.

You might have read it already...i'm an agnostic.
I do not reject nor accept any religion, purely out of the fact that i do not nor cannot know wether there is a higher being.

In holland, sad to say, it is almost impossible to talk about my communism, because of it's bad name.
For me that means two things:
-I need to talk about it elsewhere (meaning here)
-I need to educate people about true communism, not the bolshevic-ism (there goals may have been right, but the results were poor).

Finally i found some alike!

Thanks for letting me join.

[Blake's Baby]

Good morning Utopist M, welcome to RevLeft.

I hope you enjoy your time here and get involved in plenty of interesting debates. I look forward to discussing with you around the forums!

[Rugged Collectivist]

Welcome!


but ever since i've read Thomas More's Utopia, i KNOW i'm a communist.

Since you're an agnostic, I assume you take issue with some of the more catholic stuff, like making people do the shit work as punishment for premarital sex.

In all honesty I've never read the book but I've read about it and it sounded pretty bad.

[Dennis the 'Bloody Peasant']

Welcome, always fun to meet another anarcho-comm with a pacifist streak :) Hope you enjoy your time here; learn some stuff, get into debates etc

[Mr. Natural]

Welcome, indeed! Holland has a rich communist tradition, despite its present impoverishment. I'm looking forward to perhaps learning what if anything remains of Dutch council communism and the heritage of Pannekoek, Gorter, Roland-Host, and others.

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Welkom!

I think you should read more communist works.
If you arrived at communism by reading More, great.
But you should also acquaint yourself with the works, that are more scientific.
The manifesto is always a good place to start.

[Sasha]

welkom, sod the communist manifesto, try to see if you can get your hands on for example the book "waarachtige volksvrienden", here is a free online version; http://www.onvoltooidverleden.nl/index.php?id=296
its about the early "vrije socialistische beweging" in amsterdam, its awesome.

welke omgeving kom je vandaan?

[Domela Nieuwenhuis]

Since you're an agnostic, I assume you take issue with some of the more catholic stuff, like making people do the shit work as punishment for premarital sex.

Being agnostic for me means not taking issue with whatever religion, although i think giving people shitty jobs for shitty reasons is wrong.
I'm open to all kinds of religions, but i don't think that, in this day and age, it is smart to let any religion influence the law. (btw i was actually raised catholic)


About Marx's works, i as of yet have not had much time to read but i have downloaded and listened to Marx's Manifesto, and Wage-labour and Capital.
I am still trying to get a hold of Kropotkin's The Conquest of Bread, but i haven't found it yet.
And i am far from finished with reading!

For psycho: Thanks for the online-copy, i'll be reading that for sure
btw. ik ben geboren in het groene hart, maar woon nu in drenthe. Zitten hier veel nederlanders?

Thanks for the big welcome!

[Yazman]

Welcome to Revleft, if you ever have any problems on the site or issues while you're here, please let me or another member of the board administration know via private message and we'll get it sorted out.

Alternatively you can post issues in here.

[Sasha]

Mhmm drente, niet de beste plek om gelijkgestemden off-line te ontmoeten, kom igg volgend jaar eens naar de pinksterlanddagen in appelscha als je daar nog nooit geweest bent, erg tof.
En in november is er weer "2dh5" in amsterdam, kan ook heel interessant zijn; http://www.2dh5.nl/

Some other books i can recomend, berkmans "abc of anarchism", Emma Goldmans memoirs "living my life" ("mijn leven" in dutch), "bewegingsleer" van billwet (staat geheel online)

There is a sizable amount of dutchies here and we even have a dutch sub-forum but that one is pretty dead as we mostly post in the general fora.

[Domela Nieuwenhuis]

Jammer eigenlijk, Drenthe is toch over het algemeen een (gematigd) rood landschap.
Maar het percentage linksen zal hier en daar wel gelijk zijn, met het verschil dat de randstad grotere aantallen heeft.

ps. uit welke contreien kom jij?

[piet11111]

Welkom.

Always nice to see more duchies here.

[Danielle Ni Dhighe]

Welcome, Utopist M!

[Ravachol]

Welkom, veel leer/lees/discussie-plezier op revleft :)

[Q]

Despite that we already met on PM, a warm welkom indeed! :)

[Domela Nieuwenhuis]

Thanks a lot guys...or should i say Comrades?

[Aussie Trotskyist]

This is the Aussie G'day to you.

Welcome, and enjoy the forum.

[Ghazkull]

Hello,

I'm Utopist M, 30 years old and i live in The Netherlands.


Hi, bro!
Have you been on Euro-2012 in Kharkiv?

[Domela Nieuwenhuis]

Hi, bro!
Have you been on Euro-2012 in Kharkiv?

Haha, hell no!
I hate football!
If hasn't got four wheels and speed, i don't like it...
Oh, and i like fighting! K1, freefight...the works.

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Haha, hell no!
I hate football!
If hasn't got four wheels and speed, i don't like it...
Oh, and i like fighting! K1, freefight...the works.

No football? We can never be friends!

[Ghazkull]

No football? We can never be friends!

Bro!!!! :cool:
Do you support Feyenoord? ;)

[Domela Nieuwenhuis]

Oh damn....football-fans in my topic......;)

[Conflict]

Welcome to revleft. Am i right in thinking that Holland has a fast growing fascist problem? The party for freedom or something like that.

[Domela Nieuwenhuis]

Welcome to revleft. Am i right in thinking that Holland has a fast growing fascist problem? The party for freedom or something like that.

That asshole poodle? Geert wilders?
Most dutchies bought his shit the first time, but his representation in the parliament plumitted almost 50%.
Not much people here (meaning Holland) believes his shit anymore.

I personally think it's because of the leftist-parties are gradually moving towards the centre.
Dutch-left lost their ideals.

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Bro!!!! :cool:
Do you support Feyenoord? ;)

Oh damn no!
I am from Amsterdam, although I don't live there anymore, so since I was young I've been an Ajax supporter.