Saddam Not A dictator???

[el_profe]

Cross: BBC: Saddam Not a Dictator (December 21, 2003)
From the UK Telegraph ["Saddam not a dictator at BBC"]:

...descriptions of Saddam Hussein are the latest target of a [BBC] corporation diktat. "An email has been circulated telling us not to refer to Saddam as a dictator," I'm told. "Instead, we are supposed to describe him as the former leader of Iraq. "Apparently, because his presidency was endorsed in a referendum, he was technically elected. Hence the word dictator is banned. It's all rather ridiculous." The Beeb insists that the email merely restates existing guidelines. "We wanted to remind journalists whose work is seen and heard internationally of the need to use neutral language," says a spokesman.

"Technically elected"? (Bear in mind that Iraquis were forced to "vote" for Saddam). "Neutral" to whom? "President" Castro?

http://www.capmag.com/shownews.asp#848

I tried to post it in the NEWS SECITON BUT IM not allowed <_<

[cubist]

sadam is in the past lets see what the U&#036; imposed "nondemocratic democracy" will produce for iraq this time

[Domino]

Saddam is a dictator just like Bush is a dictator. There is no argument in that.

[Bolshevika]

All people who support any kind of democracy or state are dictators. One group of people forces their opinions over another group of people: dictatorship.

So I guess we can call everyone a dictator, especially George W. Bush who forced an unwanted war on the Iraqi people and broke international laws.

[Exploited Class]

During all the 80&#39;s he was never called a dictator in the news. He was the leader of Iraq or President of Iraq. He wasn&#39;t called a dictator by main stream press till he invaded Kuwait.

When you are an friend of the US and do what they say, you get good press like being called a President or Leader.

When you do something bad and piss off the US you get bad press and your title changes to dictator.

BBC is just protecting its caboose and doesn&#39;t want to go down in history as another media outlet that changed its tuned after the fact. Avoiding the wave and spin of hysteria.

[Comrade Ceausescu]

Frankly I think Saddam was a popular dictator.So,I would find it more appropriate to call him the President or Leader of Iraq.

[Urban Rubble]

Frankly I think Saddam was a popular dictator.

So was Hitler. Alot of dictators are popular, that doesn&#39;t mean they aren&#39;t horrible people. It&#39;s easy to support someone when they aren&#39;t murdering your family. Also, Saddam did not have popular support at all. Even now there are very many Iraqis welcoming the Americans.

The word dictator is pretty much irrelevant, everyone can be classified as a dictator.

El profe, your comparison between Castro and Saddam once again shows how uneducated you are on these topics. Castro is loved by Cubans, I&#39;m not talking real Cubans, not those Miami "Cubans".

[Anti-Fascist]

The fact is that words like "dictator" and "tyrant" and "monster"
have negative connotations, and hence are not objective. Hussein
was a dictator, in my opinion; but since the word "dictator" connotes
evilness, etc., it should be avoided when describing anyone. A more
objective word would be "leader" or some other synonym.

If one is to be objective, one ought to avoid the use of words wich
have negative or positive meanings because negativity and positivity
(in the moralistic sense) are subjective.

[el_profe]

Originally posted by Urban [email protected] 23 2003, 01:06 AM

El profe, your comparison between Castro and Saddam once again shows how uneducated you are on these topics. Castro is loved by Cubans, I&#39;m not talking real Cubans, not those Miami "Cubans".
:blink: WTF, that whole post was a quote, I did not add anything except the thing at the bottom and the link. WTF.

And no he is loved by many cubasn in his own country. LOL UNEDUCTED. Yes I geuss knowing a lot of cubans who tell me stories is uneducated.
Okay you say the one in miami.
Is orlando hernandez a real cuban? he was born in cuba lived tehir for 30 years or so.
Is livan hernanzed a real cuban?
Is jose contreras a real cuban?
Is castro&#39;s own daugher a real cuban?
Are the doctors that have come from cuba (in that program where countries exchange doctors) and have stayed in my country and in other latin american countries, refusing to go to cuba, real cubans?
I dont know many Miami cubans just 1 family, the rest I know from my own country.

I already addresed the cuban topic on the Cuba economic problems post. I will not repost everything i said here.

[Domino]

The ones that leave Cuba are stupid yankee lovers (hence ignorant), there&#39;s always a bunch of black sheep. I wouldn&#39;t trust their testimonies.

[Hoppe]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2003, 07:56 AM
The ones that leave Cuba are stupid yankee lovers (hence ignorant), there&#39;s always a bunch of black sheep. I wouldn&#39;t trust their testimonies.
If they&#39;re fleeing the will have a good personal reason for it. They probably think they will have a better life somewhere else. You are not going to deny someone to pursue his own happiness are you?

[SonofRage]

Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2003, 07:58 PM
The fact is that words like "dictator" and "tyrant" and "monster"
have negative connotations, and hence are not objective. Hussein
was a dictator, in my opinion; but since the word "dictator" connotes
evilness, etc., it should be avoided when describing anyone. A more
objective word would be "leader" or some other synonym.

If one is to be objective, one ought to avoid the use of words wich
have negative or positive meanings because negativity and positivity
(in the moralistic sense) are subjective.
I think anti-fascist is exactly correct here. They are journalists and want to be as objective as possible.

[Domino]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2003, 02:59 AM
If they&#39;re fleeing the will have a good personal reason for it. They probably think they will have a better life somewhere else. You are not going to deny someone to pursue his own happiness are you?
Not really. They are ignorant, unlike many other cubans who love Cuba and Castro. So these people leave, thinking, in their ignorance, that gringoland is a better place, but they are just stupid. If they knew what the other Cubans know, they would be grateful for what they have.

I live in a 3rd world country, and it&#39;s the best country ever. I would never move to a yankee city, I&#39;m not that crazy to change my freedom to live under Bush&#39; dictatorship.

[Misodoctakleidist]

el_profe, why do you think doctors dion&#39;t go back to Cuba? perhaps becuase in cuba they are paid no more than anyone else? It&#39;s a testimony to how popular Castro is that most of them do return to Cuba.

Why is Castro&#39;s daughter more significant than any other Cubans? Almost everyone in cuba likes Castro but his own daughter doesn&#39;t so she MUST be right.

[FarfromNear]

Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2003, 11:42 PM
Saddam is a dictator just like Bush is a dictator. There is no argument in that.
Bush is a dictator? What the fuck are you talking about dude. I don&#39;t even like Bush but anybody knows he is not a dictator. What a fucking stupid thing to say.

[FarfromNear]

Originally posted by Urban [email protected] 23 2003, 01:06 AM

Frankly I think Saddam was a popular dictator.

So was Hitler. Alot of dictators are popular, that doesn&#39;t mean they aren&#39;t horrible people. It&#39;s easy to support someone when they aren&#39;t murdering your family. Also, Saddam did not have popular support at all. Even now there are very many Iraqis welcoming the Americans.

The word dictator is pretty much irrelevant, everyone can be classified as a dictator.

El profe, your comparison between Castro and Saddam once again shows how uneducated you are on these topics. Castro is loved by Cubans, I&#39;m not talking real Cubans, not those Miami "Cubans".
I guess you are assuming that Cubans love Castro. Its an assumption you are making. Every Cuban that i have ever talked to will tell you how they feel about Castro. His own daughter left Cuba. And they are not &#39;Miami Cubans&#39;, they are real Cubans that are currently living in Central and South America. So let me ask you, how many Cubans have you talked to that actually love Castro?

[FarfromNear]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2003, 07:56 AM
The ones that leave Cuba are stupid yankee lovers (hence ignorant), there&#39;s always a bunch of black sheep. I wouldn&#39;t trust their testimonies.
Stupid yankee lovers? Again, assumptions. They love Yankees thats why a lot of the ones that I know that are living in Honduras, Ecuador, Costa Rica, and Venezuala. They love yankees and they have never been to the US. Good Assumptions &#33; :blink:

[Domino]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2003, 02:26 PM
Bush is a dictator? What the fuck are you talking about dude. I don&#39;t even like Bush but anybody knows he is not a dictator. What a fucking stupid thing to say.
There is no freedom in the U&#036;A, he kills innocent people, he doesn&#39;t care what the U&#036;A citizens think, the asshole wants to take over the world. That thing (cause he&#39;s no man) wants to take Hitler&#39;s wanker throne. It doesn&#39;t surprise me that learning Bush is a dictator surprises you, mate. You are a restricted member, one of Bush&#39;s sheep.

[Misodoctakleidist]

Originally posted by FarfromNear+Dec 23 2003, 08:26 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (FarfromNear @ Dec 23 2003, 08:26 PM)
[email protected] 22 2003, 11:42 PM
Saddam is a dictator just like Bush is a dictator. There is no argument in that.
Bush is a dictator? What the fuck are you talking about dude. I don&#39;t even like Bush but anybody knows he is not a dictator. What a fucking stupid thing to say. [/b]
Yes he is, why would you suggest otherwise?&#33;&#33;

[FarfromNear]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2003, 06:15 PM

Not really. They are ignorant, unlike many other cubans who love Cuba and Castro. So these people leave, thinking, in their ignorance, that gringoland is a better place, but they are just stupid. If they knew what the other Cubans know, they would be grateful for what they have.

I live in a 3rd world country, and it&#39;s the best country ever. I would never move to a yankee city, I&#39;m not that crazy to change my freedom to live under Bush&#39; dictatorship.
A la verga&#33; Ignorante tal vez vos. Has conocido algun Cubano? Latino America es lo mejor que hay, seguro, pero es la falta de Capitalismo y gente educada que no deja progresar. NO podemos salir adelante.

[Domino]

Have you been to Cuba? I think not. So you shouldn&#39;t talk about what you don&#39;t know.

[Domino]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2003, 02:37 PM
A la verga&#33; Ignorante tal vez vos. Has conocido algun Cubano? Latino America es lo mejor que hay, seguro, pero es la falta de Capitalismo y gente educada que no deja progresar. NO podemos salir adelante.
Yo he ido a Cuba, pendejo, mejor no hables de lo que no sabes. Y Si, Bush es un dictador de mierda, eres tan estupido que crees que U&#036;A es libre? Que lástima me das.

[FarfromNear]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2003, 08:36 PM

There is no freedom in the U&#036;A, he kills innocent people, he doesn&#39;t care what the U&#036;A citizens think, the asshole wants to take over the world. That thing (cause he&#39;s no man) wants to take Hitler&#39;s wanker throne. It doesn&#39;t surprise me that learning Bush is a dictator surprises you, mate. You are a restricted member, one of Bush&#39;s sheep.
There is no freedom? Freedom of expression, freedom to have you own business, freedom to not work if you want to, you have freedoms. HE kills innocent people? I hope you are not assuming that he kills innocent people in the US. HE wants to take over the world? hmm... One of Bushes sheep? Since I dont even like him, and I disagree with many of his policies. Stupid assumtions again.

[Misodoctakleidist]

farfromnear, bush wasn&#39;t even elected, al gore got more votes.

even if he was elected he would still be a dictator, american "democracy" is a farce.

[Domino]

Hahaha, solo niegas lo que digo y no aportas nada, en verdad que das lastima. :lol:

[Domino]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2003, 02:42 PM
farfromnear, bush wasn&#39;t even elected, al gore got more votes.

even if he was elected he would still be a dictator, american "democracy" is a farce.
Amen to that&#33; ;)

[FarfromNear]

Originally posted by tetelives+Dec 23 2003, 08:39 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (tetelives @ Dec 23 2003, 08:39 PM)
[email protected] 23 2003, 02:37 PM
A la verga&#33; Ignorante tal vez vos. Has conocido algun Cubano? Latino America es lo mejor que hay, seguro, pero es la falta de Capitalismo y gente educada que no deja progresar. NO podemos salir adelante.
Yo he ido a Cuba, pendejo, mejor no hables de lo que no sabes. Y Si, Bush es un dictador de mierda, eres tan estupido que crees que U&#036;A es libre? Que lástima me das. [/b]
Guerrillero de mierda. Yo he tengo un chingo de amigos que han ido a Cuba. Ignorante de mierda. Has ido a USA? YO he ido por todos lados en America, he ido a Europa, al Caribe, y todo como estudiante. NO sabes ni mierda para decir quye Bush es dictador y mata a innocentes en USA. Para decier que los gringos no son libres? Sos un imbecil. Y vos, que vivis en latino america me vas ha decir tambien que hemos tenido Captalismo ahi? NO seas tan ignorante. Hay grandisima diferencias entre Capitalismo y Mercantilismo. Son puros celos a los ricos lo que tenemos en latino america, he ahi el odio hacia el Pais mas rico del mundo, USA. La gente vive mucho mejor que nosotros, eso son toda la gente. No es como en LAtino America. No ignores el hecho que en lugares como Taiwan, que era peor que nosotros en los 50&#39;s, y gracias al Capitalismo es la 13 economia en el mundo, al contrario Latino america se a ido para atras. Gracias al mercantilismo, y la falta de educacion, y falta de Capitalismo. No hables mejor.Ignorante

[FarfromNear]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2003, 08:42 PM
farfromnear, bush wasn&#39;t even elected, al gore got more votes.

even if he was elected he would still be a dictator, american "democracy" is a farce.
He won the electoral. He won. What else can you say. Dictator? This other guys is talking about The US not having freedoms?? What the fuck

[Misodoctakleidist]

i can&#39;t speak spanish :(

[FarfromNear]

Originally posted by tetelives+Dec 23 2003, 08:44 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (tetelives @ Dec 23 2003, 08:44 PM)
[email protected] 23 2003, 02:42 PM
farfromnear, bush wasn&#39;t even elected, al gore got more votes.

even if he was elected he would still be a dictator, american "democracy" is a farce.
Amen to that&#33; ;) [/b]
Si tanto odias a los gringos, no los apoyes. Salite del internet y mires su programas de tele porque eso es de gringos. IMBECIL

[FarfromNear]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2003, 08:48 PM
i can&#39;t speak spanish :(
IT wasnt to you, it was to that other moron.

[Domino]

A ver, te da miedo? Porque no le contestas a Misodoctakleidist. He ido a todas partes, desde U&#036;A, Canada, toda Latino America, Cuba, Europa y Asia, así que si no sabes mejor cayate. Por lo menos vivo en país más desarrollado de Latino America, pinche naco. En verdad no tienes idea de las chingaderas que dices, verdad? Primero lee y despues hablas. Neta que me das lástima :lol: Seguro estas enputadísimo y yo me cago de la risa. Ah, por cierto, soy mujer. Se más de la medicridad de U&#036;A que tu. Es imposible tener ideas contrarias a las del gobierno, si compras un libro que no les gusta (si esque lo puedes encontrar) la pinche CIA te mata. Mejor no hables maestro, estas quedando bien mal, jajaja&#33;

[Misodoctakleidist]

He won the electoral

No he didn&#39;t, he was appointed by a court who&#39;s judges were all republicans apointed by george bush snr during his presidency.

Elections don&#39;t make a democracy.

[Domino]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2003, 02:48 PM
i can&#39;t speak spanish :(
Awww, sorry, I&#39;ll type in english now ;) I just told the guy what an idiot he can be. He thinks he&#39;s the only one that has traveled around the world and seen everything. He thinks there&#39;s freedom in the U&#036;A. :lol:

[Misodoctakleidist]

He certainly has alot to learn.

[FarfromNear]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2003, 08:51 PM
A ver, te da miedo? Porque no le contestas a Misodoctakleidist. He ido a todas partes, desde U&#036;A, Canada, toda Latino America, Cuba, Europa y Asia, así que si no sabes mejor cayate. Por lo menos vivo en país más desarrollado de Latino America, pinche naco. En verdad no tienes idea de las chingaderas que dices, verdad? Primero lee y despues hablas. Neta que me das lástima :lol: Seguro estas enputadísimo y yo me cago de la risa. Ah, por cierto, soy mujer. Se más de la medicridad de U&#036;A que tu. Es imposible tener ideas contrarias a las del gobierno, si compras un libro que no les gusta (si esque lo puedes encontrar) la pinche CIA te mata. Mejor no hables maestro, estas quedando bien mal, jajaja&#33;
La pinche CIA te mata. Como dice eso? Eso es estupides. Pura ignorancia. Que putas es un naco? Habla de los estados como si ha vivido por eso. Digame, como es los estados? Por donde ha ido. Donde se a metido el CIA a matar a la gente. Eso es una mentira que alguien le metio a la Cabeza.

[FarfromNear]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2003, 08:56 PM
He certainly has alot to learn.
So tell me, what are the big freedoms that are you being denied of in the US? Id like to know.

[el_profe]

OMG. DO WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS AGAIN.
A organizaton recounted the votes in florida and they did see bush won. so what are you talkin about.
YOU WANT TO SAY BUSH IS AN IDIOT, that fine, but he is not a dictator. Fuck, must i put the definition of dictator again:
DICTATOR:
An absolute ruler.
A tyrant:An absolute ruler who governs without restrictions.


BUSH IS NOT AN ABsolute ruler
He is not a tyrant, you can see the def. of tyrant.

AND STOP WITH THE HE DID NOT GET ELECTED crap, not even democrats use that, and if he was a dictator their would only be one party allowed. And i see like 1 big different party, and like 5 other different parties.
OKAY HERE IS A QUESTION, was clinton a dictator?

[Domino]

Jajaja, FarFromNear, :rolleyes: prefiero hablar con gente que haya leído antes de abrir la boca.

¿No sabes que es naco? La ignorancia de nuevo. No vales la pena, pobre miembro restringido. :lol:

Ta-ta&#33;

[Misodoctakleidist]

So tell me, what are the big freedoms that are you being denied of in the US? Id like to know.

I&#39;m not being denied any freedoms by the US but people who actualy live there are.


was clinton a dictator?

I would say yes. You shouldn&#39;t take everything aat face value el_profe, the US is not democratic. In the US if 51% of the population wanted a state run health care service what could they do about it? nothing&#33;

There are two major parties both wish identical policies and they are the only ones who can win. The ruling class put forward two right-wing candidates and the media decide which one wins. Only 30% of americans vote so to guarantee victory you need the support of 16% of the population (at the most). Also many people in america are prevented from voting.

[FarfromNear]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2003, 09:07 PM
Jajaja, FarFromNear, :rolleyes: prefiero hablar con gente que haya leído antes de abrir la boca.

¿No sabes que es naco? La ignorancia de nuevo. No vales la pena, pobre miembro restringido. :lol:

Ta-ta&#33;
Naco? NUnca lo he odio porque si usted no sabe, en latino america, todos usamos palabras y acentos diferentes. Un naco no he oido yo. Estupida. Ademas, usted dice que no he leido? Digame que ha ledio? A leido del Capitalismo? O solo de comunismo? Yo actualmente estoy leyendo el Communis Manifesto de Marx, y eh ledio de Marx y Engels. Me gusta la historia especialmente lo relativo a la guerra, he leido de historia dE Rusia y De Cuba y de lo que sea. He ledio libros Capitalistas y tambien Otros socialistas. No diga que no he leido sin saber. SOlo sabe atacarme y no pone ningun argumento. Eso es porque usted no sabe, digame, cuenteme, digame sus argumentos.

[FarfromNear]

ahora que lo pienso, usted debe ser mexicana, si me recuerdo bien haber oido naco. Pero jarga es irrelevante al tema. Pero siga con sus falacias.

[Bolshevika]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2003, 08:59 PM
OMG. DO WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS AGAIN.
A organizaton recounted the votes in florida and they did see bush won. so what are you talkin about.
YOU WANT TO SAY BUSH IS AN IDIOT, that fine, but he is not a dictator. Fuck, must i put the definition of dictator again:
DICTATOR:
An absolute ruler.
A tyrant:An absolute ruler who governs without restrictions.

He premtively invaded a sovereign country and is instating his ideas on a foreign people that don&#39;t want them. That is extremely dictator like.

Bush is also a tyrant.

[Domino]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2003, 03:14 PM
ahora que lo pienso, usted debe ser mexicana, si me recuerdo bien haber oido naco. Pero jarga es irrelevante al tema. Pero siga con sus falacias.
:lol: Me pregunto si siquiera eres latino... tu español anda medio mal.

[el_profe]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2003, 06:37 PM
el_profe, why do you think doctors dion&#39;t go back to Cuba? perhaps becuase in cuba they are paid no more than anyone else? It&#39;s a testimony to how popular Castro is that most of them do return to Cuba.

Why is Castro&#39;s daughter more significant than any other Cubans? Almost everyone in cuba likes Castro but his own daughter doesn&#39;t so she MUST be right.
No. They cant practice as doctors in my country, I think they need a license.

But most returned because they had kids and family over there. The ones taht stayed have relative (brothers) lose their jobs because they didnt go back to cuba. Is that fair?

[FarfromNear]

Originally posted by tetelives+Dec 23 2003, 09:39 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (tetelives @ Dec 23 2003, 09:39 PM)
[email protected] 23 2003, 03:14 PM
ahora que lo pienso, usted debe ser mexicana, si me recuerdo bien haber oido naco. Pero jarga es irrelevante al tema. Pero siga con sus falacias.
:lol: Me pregunto si siquiera eres latino... tu español anda medio mal. [/b]
Nuevamente, solo ataca a la persona , o no presenta ni un solo argumento. Usted no sabe, es asi de simple. Estudia, lea, y lea de los dos lados. No solo lo socialista y communista, lea Capitalistas para poder entender. LE sugiero que tambien estudio los datos economicos de los ultimos 60 anios de paises latino americanos y comparelos con los datos de paises como Taiwan, Japon, Australia, Nueva Zelanda. Usted se pregunta si yo soy latino?? 100%

[Domino]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2003, 04:10 PM
Nuevamente, solo ataca a la persona , o no presenta ni un solo argumento. Usted no sabe, es asi de simple. Estudia, lea, y lea de los dos lados. No solo lo socialista y communista, lea Capitalistas para poder entender. LE sugiero que tambien estudio los datos economicos de los ultimos 60 anios de paises latino americanos y comparelos con los datos de paises como Taiwan, Japon, Australia, Nueva Zelanda. Usted se pregunta si yo soy latino?? 100%
Vez? Solo repites lo que yo digo. No manches, ya perdi como dos horas de mi vida discutiendo con un ignorante.

Bye bye :lol:

[FarfromNear]

Originally posted by tetelives+Dec 23 2003, 10:28 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (tetelives @ Dec 23 2003, 10:28 PM)
[email protected] 23 2003, 04:10 PM
Nuevamente, solo ataca a la persona , o no presenta ni un solo argumento. Usted no sabe, es asi de simple. Estudia, lea, y lea de los dos lados. No solo lo socialista y communista, lea Capitalistas para poder entender. LE sugiero que tambien estudio los datos economicos de los ultimos 60 anios de paises latino americanos y comparelos con los datos de paises como Taiwan, Japon, Australia, Nueva Zelanda. Usted se pregunta si yo soy latino?? 100%
Vez? Solo repites lo que yo digo. No manches, ya perdi como dos horas de mi vida discutiendo con un ignorante.

Bye bye :lol: [/b]
Usted no dio ningun buen argumento. NO dijo nada. No tiene argumentos. NO me dijo nada, le pregunto mil cosas y no respondio. Solo evadio responder por medio de atacarme.

[el_profe]

Originally posted by Bolshevika+Dec 23 2003, 09:36 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Bolshevika @ Dec 23 2003, 09:36 PM)
[email protected] 23 2003, 08:59 PM
OMG. DO WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS AGAIN.
A organizaton recounted the votes in florida and they did see bush won. so what are you talkin about.
YOU WANT TO SAY BUSH IS AN IDIOT, that fine, but he is not a dictator. Fuck, must i put the definition of dictator again:
DICTATOR:
An absolute ruler.
A tyrant:An absolute ruler who governs without restrictions.

He premtively invaded a sovereign country and is instating his ideas on a foreign people that don&#39;t want them. That is extremely dictator like.

Bush is also a tyrant. [/b]
OH, he is an absolute leader, their is no senate no congress.
You can say the same thing about all leaders that invaded germany in WWII.

So Bush is a dictator and Castro isnt? :lol: :lol: :lol:

But he does not opress his own people, right, I see democrats running fro president. Have you seen anyone else running fro president against castro???

[synthesis]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2003, 08:30 PM
I guess you are assuming that Cubans love Castro. Its an assumption you are making. Every Cuban that i have ever talked to will tell you how they feel about Castro. His own daughter left Cuba. And they are not &#39;Miami Cubans&#39;, they are real Cubans that are currently living in Central and South America. So let me ask you, how many Cubans have you talked to that actually love Castro?
http://www.marxmail.org/facts/cuba_gallup.htm

Says it all. ;)

[el_profe]

Originally posted by DyerMaker+Dec 24 2003, 12:52 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DyerMaker @ Dec 24 2003, 12:52 AM)
[email protected] 23 2003, 08:30 PM
I guess you are assuming that Cubans love Castro. Its an assumption you are making. Every Cuban that i have ever talked to will tell you how they feel about Castro. His own daughter left Cuba. And they are not &#39;Miami Cubans&#39;, they are real Cubans that are currently living in Central and South America. So let me ask you, how many Cubans have you talked to that actually love Castro?
http://www.marxmail.org/facts/cuba_gallup.htm

Says it all. ;) [/b]
No shit they support the revolution. IF you are told that batista was worse then hitler i would support the revolution.

As to the USA having sanctions.
WHAT FUCKING LAW SAYS THE USA IS SUPPOSE TO TRADE WITH CUBA. IF THEir where no sanctions the USA could still refuse to trade with Cuba.
And dont say latin american countries dont trade with cuba cuase they do.

As to the poll. Of course they think they are better off. If they have never tried other gov. and visit other countries.


A majority preferred economic and social equality over individual freedom and an equal number chose government management of agriculture and industry over private ownership.

OH. LOL> SO THEY ARE ADMITTING THAT THEIR IS NO INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM in Cuba. What a great country.


Eighty percent were found to disagree with President Clinton&#39;s termination of remittances from relatives in the U.S. and trips between the two countries
OMG. See they also blame clinton, not just Bush like everyone in this board does.

[Domino]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2003, 07:09 PM
OMG. See they also blame clinton, not just Bush like everyone in this board does.
Everyone in this board? You should check the board more often, then.

[Misodoctakleidist]

WHAT FUCKING LAW SAYS THE USA IS SUPPOSE TO TRADE WITH CUBA.
that would be international trade laws.


IF THEir where no sanctions the USA could still refuse to trade with Cuba.
That would be imposing a sanction wouldn&#39;t it, idiot.

Does the caps lock on your computer turn it&#39;s self on and off periodically?

[el_profe]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2003, 01:14 AM

WHAT FUCKING LAW SAYS THE USA IS SUPPOSE TO TRADE WITH CUBA.
that would be international trade laws.


IF THEir where no sanctions the USA could still refuse to trade with Cuba.
That would be imposing a sanction wouldn&#39;t it, idiot.

Does the caps lock on your computer turn it&#39;s self on and off periodically?


International trade laws?
What law is that.

Any country has the right to not trade with any other country if they dont want to.

the caps lock, to get more attention to a certain sentence , i just get lazy and tired of pressing shift and just Caps the first part of the sentence.

[FarfromNear]

Originally posted by DyerMaker+Dec 24 2003, 12:52 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DyerMaker @ Dec 24 2003, 12:52 AM)
[email protected] 23 2003, 08:30 PM
I guess you are assuming that Cubans love Castro. Its an assumption you are making. Every Cuban that i have ever talked to will tell you how they feel about Castro. His own daughter left Cuba. And they are not &#39;Miami Cubans&#39;, they are real Cubans that are currently living in Central and South America. So let me ask you, how many Cubans have you talked to that actually love Castro?
http://www.marxmail.org/facts/cuba_gallup.htm

Says it all. ;) [/b]
Cubans are affraid of saying what they really think because their totalitarian dictator would do something for it. There are often times gov&#39;t informants for Fidel going out asking people about him just so that they dont say anything.

[Misodoctakleidist]

Any country has the right to not trade with any other country if they dont want to.

that&#39;s called &#39;imposing economic sanctions&#39; which is illegal if it&#39;s not approved by the UN.

[Bolshevika]

I call for the banning of El Profe.

On every board run by capitalists I get banned, so I don&#39;t see why El Profe deserves to be here. He is horribly misinformed and cannot get a point across without CAPITALIZING EVERYTHING. He types like a moron.

[el_profe]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2003, 03:02 AM

Any country has the right to not trade with any other country if they dont want to.

that&#39;s called &#39;imposing economic sanctions&#39; which is illegal if it&#39;s not approved by the UN.
Imposing sanctions. Why?

Is each country an independent country? yes.

Its called sanctions??
If i deny to let you into my restaurant becuase i dont want you in my restaurant is that a sanction against you??

And to hear Bolshevika call me misinformed. LOL

Why because i say bush is not a dictator? you insist on calling him a dictator, was clinton a dictator? he bombed yugoslavia and iraq, and he bombed a pharmaceutical in Sudan.
or because i say stalin killed millions?
or because i say Castro is a dictator?

just because you cant admit some things are true does not make me uninformed. You just dont like me because i attack your idols.

[Misodoctakleidist]

If a county refuses to trade with another counrty that is economic sactioning, it&#39;s the very definition of the phrase.