Racist Ads in San Francisco/NYC

[Jimmie Higgins]

I don't know if there's been a thread about this, but when I first saw them I literally did a spit take with my drink.

http://www.aljazeera.com//mritems/Images/2012/9/24/20129248147985734_20.jpg

The war between the civilised man and the savage (http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2012/09/201292464012781613.html)

Here's the responce though :):

http://mondoweiss.net/images/2012/09/Port-Authority2.jpg

[A Revolutionary Tool]

Best course of action: vandalism.

[citizen of industry]

"Paid for by the American Freedom Defense Institute" Apparently SF is reveiwing its ad approval policy now.

[Niall]

seen these before, glad to see someone taking a stance

[citizen of industry]

I kind of like it in a way. Would you rather see a Gillette ad on the side of the bus? Pictures from history show me walls plastered with competing images of political slogans. A walk down the street shows me nothing but a bunch of product advertisements. I'm down for polarization of society.

[Igor]

I kind of like it in a way. Would you rather see a Gillette ad on the side of the bus?

would i rather see an ad of an useful commodity than outright racist attacks towards arabs?

yes. yes i would

[Dean]

Not sure what value there is in marginalizing this message. It simply bridges the gap to all the old versions of "humanitarian interventionism" that the current foreign policy follows. The notion of "civil" versus "savage" peoples is just a cover for the predominant mode of geopolitical power. Obfuscating it behind the last few year's hysteria (most recently, complaints about the support for Syrian dictator Assad) allows cover for the bipartisan Middle Eastern barbecue. But Pamela Geller is almost certainly doing us a service by bringing to the forefront the latent message here, the real attitude of the administration, that there is a conflict between Western civility and Eastern savagery and it is the White Man's Burden to attack the savage for his liberation, when the other message is so much more palatable to the intellectual class in the US.

[citizen of industry]

would i rather see an ad of an useful commodity than outright racist attacks towards arabs?

yes. yes i would

Why didn't you quote the whole post, instead of taking part of it out of context? You would be more happy with advertisements than a period of heightened class struggle with slogans and vandalism everywhere?

[citizen of industry]

outright racist attacks towards arabs?yes. yes i would

:( Gasp!

[Althusser]

I'm on the NYC subways everyday. When I spot those ads, I'm fucking them up.

[cynicles]

I have to say I was shocked to learn that a liberal like Mona Eltahawy got arrested vandalizing them.

http://blogs.jpost.com/content/mona-eltahawy-defends-jihad-we-are-all-proud-savages-now

She's defending Jihad!(typical zionist propaganda garbage)

[Rafiq]

I got a call today from Third position telling me that the white race is in danger and that we need to vote for some prick whose name I forgot.

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[Art Vandelay]

WTF:confused:

[Positivist]

I got a call today from Third position telling me that the white race is in danger and that we need to vote for some prick whose name I forgot.

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What? Is third position the name of a member?

[Jimmie Higgins]

I got a call today from Third position telling me that the white race is in danger and that we need to vote for some prick whose name I forgot. For real? Was it someone running in the state election out there or city? National? And what do you mean you forgot the name. Now who am I supposed to claim I want to kick the shit out of when I'm acting like an internet tough-guy :(

Hey, if you get another call and they say the white race is in danger, just say: "Yeah I know! At least some whites are in danger of believing some racist idiotic shit." Or say: "What? Who is this! How did you find out about Operation: "Kill Whitey?"

Actually, say the first one, the second might cause a shooting-spree or something.

[Magón]

I was around North Beach the other week, and saw this on a bus. I had to do a double take, to see if it was for real.

[Skyhilist]

When did Judaism and Islam become races rather than religions? It's definitely discriminatory though...

[barbelo]

That feel when there is no ad saying this in my city ;__;
Muslims would protest so much no one would be able to work that day

Behead those that are against cute lolis

[#FF0000]

That feel when there is no ad saying this in my city ;__;
Muslims would protest so much no one would be able to work that day

Behead those that are against cute lolis

you are just the worst

[Os Cangaceiros]

Why didn't you quote the whole post, instead of taking part of it out of context? You would be more happy with advertisements than a period of heightened class struggle with slogans and vandalism everywhere?

I don't know, political sloganeering everywhere is pretty obnoxious. I haven't done that much international travel, but one place you do see it a lot is Mexico...there's political shit everywhere down there. Ugh. Sometimes it's not even a campaign for a specific person, sometimes it's just the name of a party (mostly PRI or PRD) painted on the side of a store or something.

I think there's a lot of political graffiti/slogans in Rome, too, but I think it's mostly of the fascist variety. Some poster here went to Rome a while back and posted a thread wondering if he was in a "fascist town". :lol: Another wrote about a time he went to Belfast, and saw a picture of a space alien greeting a human or something, some kind of message embracing universal peace and harmony or whatnot, and someone had painted a swastika next to it with the phrase "ALIENS OUT!" :lol: That was a pretty funny thread, I should see if I can find it.

[Mao_O]

Use of bigger and deadlier weapons doesn't = civilized. Anyway I'd root for the team that isn't sucking our tax money dry for THEIR military spending.

[leftistman]

I come from a Jewish Zionist family, and I have to deal with this every other day. My family is radically nationalistic and xenophobic towards Arabs. My family will not allow me to date non-Jewish people, and if I marry someone who is not Jewish, they will not attend the wedding, and I will not be allowed to inherit anything from the family. I have spent my whole life sheltered in the Jewish community, and this contemptuousness towards Muslims and Arabs is inflicted upon people from the very beginning.

If we are to do something about this attitude, we must do something about religion, because that is the core of the Jewish-Arab conflict. We must also do something about this political correctness towards Jews; it is currently considered anti-Semitic to criticize Israel or Zionism in any way.

[citizen of industry]

I don't know, political sloganeering everywhere is pretty obnoxious. I haven't done that much international travel, but one place you do see it a lot is Mexico...there's political shit everywhere down there. Ugh. Sometimes it's not even a campaign for a specific person, sometimes it's just the name of a party (mostly PRI or PRD) painted on the side of a store or something.

I think there's a lot of political graffiti/slogans in Rome, too, but I think it's mostly of the fascist variety. Some poster here went to Rome a while back and posted a thread wondering if he was in a "fascist town". :lol: Another wrote about a time he went to Belfast, and saw a picture of a space alien greeting a human or something, some kind of message embracing universal peace and harmony or whatnot, and someone had painted a swastika next to it with the phrase "ALIENS OUT!" :lol: That was a pretty funny thread, I should see if I can find it.

I remember that thread. Political sloganeering is very obnoxious. But I don't see a ban on political sloganeering coupled with freedom of advertising as particularly great. Should we celebrate that the SF government is reviewing things more carefully now? It seems the vandalism attached to this poster has been particularly popular. In future, it'll be just Gillette ads and nothing to think about. Hell, give them a go. I'm confident most people will see their sligans as bullshit.

[Comrades Unite!]

Oh my god, I really wish I lived in the US.

Would love to do a bit of vandalism to it.

[Jimmie Higgins]

In the San Francisco Bay Area - and this is probably true of other urban areas in the US - there are regularly pro-Israel propaganda Ads in the busses and subway. They are less racist in style, but not in subtext. There were some that were like, "Israeli Scientists invented Cancer treatments. thanks Israel for clearing a way for progresses"

The same group also has posters claiming Palistinians train their kids to be mindless killers while in Israel Arbas are taught how to be (essentially) civilized (without using the civilized word). One side of the ad shows a rally where there are kids with fake guns and the other shows a mixed group of children playing scoccer together. It's still "savage vs. civilized" they just don't use the terms.

This group also had some volunteer copy-editing for facts:


A pro-Israel poster placed in the Civic Center BART station by the Israel advocacy organization StandWithUs was defaced by vandals last month.
http://www.jweekly.com/images/uploads/w_photos_2012/t08_17_12/BAshorts_apartheid_sign_normal_size.jpg Vandalized sign in Civic Center BART station

The poster, which touts the work of Israelis on treating AIDS, was papered over to attack alleged Israeli apartheid. The original poster read, “Israeli-Developed AIDS Treatment: Targets HIV Without Affecting Healthy Cells. Israel Saves Lives.” The papered-over poster read, “Israel-Developed Apartheid: Targets Homes Without Affecting Profits. Israel Destroys Lives.”
The vandalized poster was quickly replaced, said Mike Harris of StandWithUs/San Francisco Voice for Israel, noting that the poster ad campaign was slated to run until Friday, Aug. 17.
It's disgusting - "Israel saves lives". Not science, research!? Not government funding of heath research and care? So every-time we fly in a jet plane we should say, "thank you NAZI Third Reich for funding the research that led to this"!?


EDIT: and that's some aristan work on that sign by the way - they must have had to measure shit and match colors and fonts and do a lot of work for that.

[cynicles]

In the San Francisco Bay Area - and this is probably true of other urban areas in the US - there are regularly pro-Israel propaganda Ads in the busses and subway. They are less racist in style, but not in subtext. There were some that were like, "Israeli Scientists invented Cancer treatments. thanks Israel for clearing a way for progresses"

The same group also has posters claiming Palistinians train their kids to be mindless killers while in Israel Arbas are taught how to be (essentially) civilized (without using the civilized word). One side of the ad shows a rally where there are kids with fake guns and the other shows a mixed group of children playing scoccer together. It's still "savage vs. civilized" they just don't use the terms.

This group also had some volunteer copy-editing for facts:

It's disgusting - "Israel saves lives". Not science, research!? Not government funding of heath research and care? So every-time we fly in a jet plane we should say, "thank you NAZI Third Reich for funding the research that led to this"!?


EDIT: and that's some aristan work on that sign by the way - they must have had to measure shit and match colors and fonts and do a lot of work for that.
Kids?!?! Playing with toy guns!?!?! SAVAGES!! What country in this world would allow such a thing? Next thing you know they'll be doing school trips to weapons bases to have the children write messages of hate on missiles they plan to launch at their enemies!

[Rafiq]

What? Is third position the name of a member?

The organization. They didn't directly speak to me, they left an automated message. It was pretty fucking creepy since the robotic voice casually slung around the phrase "The White race is going extinct" in quite a... Marketing-esque kind of voice.

[Rafiq]

For real? Was it someone running in the state election out there or city? National? And what do you mean you forgot the name. Now who am I supposed to claim I want to kick the shit out of when I'm acting like an internet tough-guy :(

Hey, if you get another call and they say the white race is in danger, just say: "Yeah I know! At least some whites are in danger of believing some racist idiotic shit." Or say: "What? Who is this! How did you find out about Operation: "Kill Whitey?"

Actually, say the first one, the second might cause a shooting-spree or something.

trust me, if an actual person was on the other line I would have trolled the shit out of them. It was an automated message, though. I think they said "William D. Johson" but I don't know. In all honesty I don't know if it was third position, however, hysteria of "Third world immagrants transforming the nation into a third world country" and "White race in danger" reminded me of it. That's it, it was William Johson. Because as soon as I looked the name up, Third Position came up.

[Prometeo liberado]

So let me get this straight. You're suprised that the zionists are racist? This is the big bombshell? That's all you got? Yeah, losing all sorts of sleep over this one.

[Danielle Ni Dhighe]

These ads are disgusting. No one should be publicly demeaned because of their ethnicity or religion, which is exactly what these ads do to Arabs and Muslims.