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Pawn Power
22nd September 2012, 05:45
Are people on this forum actually involved in struggles, ongoing or otherwise?

#FF0000
22nd September 2012, 06:12
yup

Ostrinski
22nd September 2012, 15:39
A revolutionary struggle against myself and my own inadequecies.

Positivist
22nd September 2012, 15:49
Not if throwing rocks at a window is a revolutionary struggle.

#FF0000
22nd September 2012, 17:14
to be fair a lot aren't

Jimmie Higgins
23rd September 2012, 12:00
Yes.

Manic Impressive
23rd September 2012, 12:02
All workers are involved in a daily struggle

but yeah I was out doing struggly revolutiony type stuff yesterday

Jimmie Higgins
23rd September 2012, 14:33
Manic, you're so warm and struggly!

A Revolutionary Tool
23rd September 2012, 15:34
No, that would entail getting off my ass and doing something. I'd much rather watch from a far distance.

Art Vandelay
23rd September 2012, 23:22
After 3,600 posts you don't know the answer to that question :confused:

RevoTO
24th September 2012, 01:02
yes, I would hope most of us are active or doing what we can to get active

Jesus Saves Gretzky Scores
24th September 2012, 01:07
It's hard to find stuff revolutionary stuff going on.

Le Socialiste
24th September 2012, 01:29
I am, and I'd reckon a fair number of people are to some extent as well (although, there are quite a few who aren't).

Geiseric
24th September 2012, 03:55
There are alot of sectarians on this forum, which means that they aren't involved in any struggle except for their very own struggle (to sell newspapers) because, well, they're the vanguard, in their minds at least. Especially the sparts, they're the bolsheviks incarnate :laugh:

Anyways, I am involved in actual struggles.

Mao_O
24th September 2012, 06:51
Yes and intend to make it a life long thing.

cynicles
24th September 2012, 08:04
Your title makes no sense, what are revolutionary stones and where is this glass building?

Mass Grave Aesthetics
24th September 2012, 10:55
Iīm on hiatus.
I guess we canīt all be glorious Naxalites.

Manic Impressive
24th September 2012, 12:14
yeah I guess it really comes down to what you think is revolutionary. I was out on the streets talking to workers about socialism, capitalism and revolution. It was a complete failure this time. By that I mean I barely found one person who took the slightest bit of interest compared with the previous times I've done it where I made quite a few contacts. Now in that time which was wasted I could have written an article, I could have been responding to some interesting debates I was having on Revleft. Both of which would have been seen by more workers than me standing on a street corner achieved. Or I could have read some theory, that in itself is a revolutionary act in my book. Increasing your own knowledge allows you to disseminate the information to other workers.
I don't think campaigning for reforms is in any way revolutionary. Some of you do and is what I think the OP is probably talking about. What I'm saying is revolutionary action is kind of a subjective thing in the minds of revolutionaries as none can agree on what exactly is revolutionary action. Not to mention that a few users on here will follow a more determinist point of view, rendering the OP's suggestion of hypocrisy kind moot. The suggestion being that "if you are not doing MY kind of revolutionary action then you are considerably less of a revolutionary than I am".

Ocean Seal
24th September 2012, 12:27
I'm sure we all at some point have been and at some points aren't. But this is the internet so I'm inclined to tell you that I was with the Kazakh miners, the South African miners, the Spanish M-15 movement, the Syntagma Square protests, the Chicago Teacher's strike, the Quebec student protests, the Oakland general strike, the Oakland anti-eviction campaign, the Anaheim marches against police brutality, the London student protests, the Mexican anti-voter-fraud campaign, among many others. So please people don't turn this into a dickwaving contest because I've won. And also don't turn it into my organization had this little action which shows that we understand the proletariat more than that organization.

Nox
24th September 2012, 12:58
I'm in the struggle to get ripped and get laid

And maybe join the AF

GiantMonkeyMan
25th September 2012, 21:19
I've not been politically active for around two months or so as I've been unemployed, depressed and for a brief time homeless (slept on mate's couch and stole his internet lol). Thank god my brother moved out of my mum's and a spare bed was available so I moved back in with her. Unfortunately Plymouth is in the ass end of nowhere with workers who are reactionary and a huge university full of students who don't give a shit. Please correct me if I'm wrong cos I'd love to meet up with some fellow revolutionary marxists.

Things turned around today. Got job and made some contacts with the Socialist Party. Bunch of trots they might be but at least I might have a decent conversation or two and actually get involved in something. They promised to save me a seat on the coaches to the TUC demo in october where I'll be waving the red flag. At my induction for the job they subtly told us all that joining the union was pointless and I want to disagree but I'm making min wage and don't know if I can afford union dues, getting out of my overdraft and the little rent my mum needs.

/Life story.

The Douche
25th September 2012, 21:33
I gave a cop a dirty look while leaving the bar the other day, that counts, right?

Os Cangaceiros
25th September 2012, 21:36
No, there are no communist organizations where I live, nor will there every be, nor will I ever go out of my way to start one. The best I could hope for is being some kind of affiliate of a revolutionary organization....revolutionary organizations have affiliates, right? Like the Mafia does?

*sigh*

ed miliband
25th September 2012, 21:37
here's the thing though, i'm in favour of struggle when it's me struggling, but i'm not in favour of taking abstract positions for or against issues that do not affect me. that does not mean i'm not in solidarity with those struggles, but basing my political position around saying 'yay' or 'boo' to things that i cannot affect, and that will not (immediately) affect me? no.

Os Cangaceiros
25th September 2012, 21:43
That is completely unacceptable. How will imperialism know to keep their hands off such-and-such country unless you tell them?!

ed miliband
25th September 2012, 22:11
i fucking love revol68's posts throughout this:

http://libcom.org/blog/soapy-hunger-strike-08092012


Let's see how long this last till your ma's come down to the quad, slap youse round the head and make you eat the sandwiches they loving cut into triangles.

"But hunny, they're your favourite"

"Okay then mom, but only one"


:laugh:

cynicles
26th September 2012, 01:00
I'm in the struggle to get ripped and get laid

And maybe join the AF
AF? Armed Forces? Ambercrombie and Fitch? Is that why you wan't to get ripped. I heard a story about some model who was fired for taking a bite out of a croissant on set, that is some tough work.

Maize
26th September 2012, 02:03
My involvement in activism is rather new. I've participated in a protest but as far as "throwing a brick" I admit to be lacking. I can't blame others for being pro-communism but not necessarily active. The consequences of active revolt, if crushed, are grim for those trying to work by 40+ hours a week. A weekend in the slam or an arrest record can really deter people from taking part in active protest, being that their livelihood is in jeopardy with no easily foreseeable gains.

Geiseric
26th September 2012, 03:17
I've not been politically active for around two months or so as I've been unemployed, depressed and for a brief time homeless (slept on mate's couch and stole his internet lol). Thank god my brother moved out of my mum's and a spare bed was available so I moved back in with her. Unfortunately Plymouth is in the ass end of nowhere with workers who are reactionary and a huge university full of students who don't give a shit. Please correct me if I'm wrong cos I'd love to meet up with some fellow revolutionary marxists.

Things turned around today. Got job and made some contacts with the Socialist Party. Bunch of trots they might be but at least I might have a decent conversation or two and actually get involved in something. They promised to save me a seat on the coaches to the TUC demo in october where I'll be waving the red flag. At my induction for the job they subtly told us all that joining the union was pointless and I want to disagree but I'm making min wage and don't know if I can afford union dues, getting out of my overdraft and the little rent my mum needs.

/Life story.

Umm the socialist party aren't trots... They aren't even marxists.

Also unions are always worth it.

PC LOAD LETTER
26th September 2012, 03:38
Too busy right now trying to make ends meet and get on with my life.

Sea
26th September 2012, 03:42
That is completely unacceptable. How will imperialism know to keep their hands off such-and-such country unless you tell them?!
That's a good point.

I should put out the welcome mats.

GiantMonkeyMan
26th September 2012, 20:40
Umm the socialist party aren't trots... They aren't even marxists.

Also unions are always worth it.
These guys are certainly influenced by trotsky in many of their policies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(England_and_Wales) and that's who I spoke to. :confused: They seemed alright.... almost shocked that someone was talking to them though aha. I'm definitely not too keen on them and compared to my comrades in Bristol they seem kinda pathetic but Plymouth is a dead zone and I wanted someone to organise with and talk to rather than just hanging out on this forum. ;)

I'm honestly flipping a coin over whether or not to join the union. I'm on a temp christmas contract and I literally might only be working there for a few months. The only union my work recognise are the Union of Shop, Distributive and Allied Workers (USDAW) but I know nothing about them and there isn't even a union rep at the store. Their wiki page says that they're the fastest growing union in the UK...

Vladimir Innit Lenin
27th September 2012, 23:14
Sometimes, I struggle.

But in the winter time, I snuggle.

OT: my girlfriend threw a crisp packet on the floor in front of a pig in M&S the other day. Feminist revolutionary right there. :sneaky: