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KurtFF8
20th September 2012, 19:59
Source (http://wp.me/pBY1I-ac) (From the Left Film Review of course)


Director: Alfonso Cuarón
http://leftisminfilm.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/chom1.png?w=300&h=187 (http://leftisminfilm.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/chom1.png)Children of Men is a science fiction film that paints a picture of a “hopeless future.” Like most dystopian fiction, the “purpose” of the film is social commentary. The premise of the film is that women have en masse become infertile and as a result, much of the world has “devolved” into chaos and war except for the United Kingdom which is supposedly the “only remaining” stable civilized society. This stable civil society is exposed throughout the film to be based on repression and organized violence against the victims of the worldwide troubles which leads the viewer to believe that this so called stable society is living in a state of denial.
Of course the concept of a chaotic violent world doesn’t require science fiction to showcase, yet as with most science fiction: painting it as an alternate reality or possible future to an extent gives room for commentary. So we see the British military kettling people from around the world, who have moved to the UK to find refuge from the tumult of their place of origin, into cages and camps while sending them off to a ghetto that is separated from the rest of society. We are lead to believe that this is a “possible world.” If the film had taken place in contemporary Afghanistan or Iraq, showing the same actions, the response to the film would be much different, even though the film itself is inspired directly by those very real events. In an interview, Cuarón says that “[e]verything has to have a reference to the state of our times, (http://web.archive.org/web/20070927191655/http://www.nashvillescene.com/Stories/Arts/Film/2007/01/11/The_Connecting_of_Heartbeats/index.shtml)” which demonstrates the role that the style and particular depiction of this future plays.
There are many social issues dealt with the film, and the infertility question ends up to an extent merely being a plot device to explore these issues. For example, the main character (who is the first pregnant woman in over a decade) is a refugee named Kee and is being escorted by a resistance group called the “fishers” who want to use her pregnancy as part of the resistance to the British state. http://leftisminfilm.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/chom2.png?w=300&h=187 (http://leftisminfilm.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/chom2.png)While the theme of gender seems to be de-emphasized, this usage of the main character who is a woman to simply achieve the aims of political groups could be seen as an exposing the gendered nature of both oppression and resistance (one need not look far for feminist critiques of the Left). These issues playing the primary role in the film shows that the film is not about the future per sey, but rather our current social situation. For example, the director himself said that while making the film, they “didn’t want [the audience] to be distracted by the future. We didn’t want to transport the audience into another reality (http://articles.latimes.com/2006/dec/19/entertainment/et-children19).”
This sense of not wanting the audience to be distracted by the future contrasts the film with a film like Blade Runner which is the sort of dystopia that focuses on the affects of technology on social change directly. Cuarón actually even said that Children of Men was “the anti-Blade Runner (http://web.archive.org/web/20070927191655/http://www.nashvillescene.com/Stories/Arts/Film/2007/01/11/The_Connecting_of_Heartbeats/index.shtml)” in terms of the mise en scene (or art and visual standards of the film). This different take on the future offers contrasting visions of how social commentary and science fiction can play out, and Children of Men‘s attempt proves quite successful both politically and in terms of film making. It demonstrates the potential that science fiction has as a tool for exposing social relations of today and what film makers who understand this are capable of doing.
Such a great film.

Manic Impressive
20th September 2012, 20:20
Great film and actually the only Clive Owen performance that isn't stupendously terrible. I'm not sure about the review though. How was the woman the main character. She only appears halfway through the film :confused:

Ele'ill
20th September 2012, 20:31
I enjoyed how real some of the scenes appeared.

Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages
20th September 2012, 20:45
one of rare occurrences where the movie is better than the book. The sequence where they're running through the ghetto at the end during the military assault is incredible.

Ele'ill
20th September 2012, 20:57
There was a thread somewhere where I had posted some clips from it but this movie always deserves it

The opening scene of course
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the car brief pull-over and ambush sequence etc

Winkers Fons
20th September 2012, 21:22
One of my favorite movies. I just love the way everything looks. Also, the super long continuous shots.

Pirate Utopian
20th September 2012, 21:35
Eh. It's okay.

A Revolutionary Tool
20th September 2012, 22:03
One of my favorite movies. I just love the way everything looks. Also, the super long continuous shots.

Yeah this film has some really long continuous shots, always liked that about this movie.

Ele'ill
20th September 2012, 22:09
Eh. It's okay.

What do you think a better film of this same genre would be?

Lenina Rosenweg
20th September 2012, 23:29
I enjoyed the film.I wish I could trace more of the influences but it does seem a bit derivative. The explosion scene posted above seems to have come from or been influenced by The Battle of Algiers.The Pink Floyd spoof is funny.It does a good job of conveying the angst the world was facing in the early 2000s (and which has only accelerated since then).

Os Cangaceiros
20th September 2012, 23:40
What do you think a better film of this same genre would be?

If we're talking about just science fiction generally, I'd rank quite a few films above COM. Alien, Save the Green Planet, Event Horizon, District 9, etc. etc. etc.

But if we're talking about just films that resemble COM, then I don't know. District 9 kind of has a "dystopian society in decay" theme in it, though, and I like that one more than COM.

GiantMonkeyMan
21st September 2012, 00:09
What do you think a better film of this same genre would be?
I'm partial to Soylent Green and Brazil but Children of Men is definitely up there among the greatest dystopian science fiction films. Well choreographed long takes are always pleasing to watch.

Manic Impressive
21st September 2012, 00:19
District 9 is a great film but it gets a bit too silly at points. I think Peter Jackson's influence may be the reason for it. Reminds me of some of his early splatter films in a way.

Visioneers is one of my favorites I've never seen a film as depressingly funny.

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Os Cangaceiros
21st September 2012, 00:36
I love Peter Jackson's splatter films, so maybe that's part of the reason I liked District 9.

Yuppie Grinder
21st September 2012, 01:57
I love this film!
The author of the novel is a prominent British reactionary and a member of the liberal society.

Will Scarlet
21st September 2012, 02:08
Most of what's good about District 9 is also in the original short film Alive In Joburg. District 9 expanded on the good concept, but it seemed like they didn't have a good plot and didn't know where to go with the ideas they had. Thinking about it the film probably would have been better if it had no plot at all. The way it unravelled into a boring action film left me scratching my head.

I still think it's a decent film, but flawed.

Children of Men is one of my all time favourites, I think it is a perfect summary of the state of the world.

Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages
21st September 2012, 02:14
I thought District 9 was pretty good but it felt like it had a silly summer action movie tone to it that I don't think fit it very well.

Pirate Utopian
21st September 2012, 05:45
What do you think a better film of this same genre would be?

The genre being dystopian films? A Clockwork Orange.

Rugged Collectivist
21st September 2012, 06:59
Visioneers is one of my favorites I've never seen a film as depressingly funny.

Damn. I kind of want to see this now. I'll watch anything with Zach Galifinakis.

Sir Comradical
21st September 2012, 12:37
Good movie, and I actually liked the reference to Christianity and the birth of Jesus.

Jimmie Higgins
22nd September 2012, 02:27
Visioneers is one of my favorites I've never seen a film as depressingly funny.
That movie was just total Khaos!

KurtFF8
24th September 2012, 06:07
Great film and actually the only Clive Owen performance that isn't stupendously terrible. I'm not sure about the review though. How was the woman the main character. She only appears halfway through the film :confused:

A very good point, and now the review has been...revised.


District 9 is a great film but it gets a bit too silly at points. I think Peter Jackson's influence may be the reason for it. Reminds me of some of his early splatter films in a way.

Visioneers is one of my favorites I've never seen a film as depressingly funny.

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I always felt that the narrative in D9 about race was an utter failure and quite problematic

Jimmie Higgins
24th September 2012, 14:53
I always felt that the narrative in D9 about race was an utter failure and quite problematicI enjoyed the film as entertianment, but yeah I felt that it was problematic poltically too.

bcbm
1st October 2012, 19:20
if it turned out nobody could get pregnant and we were the last generation on earth that seems like a cause for a very large blowout party more than crazy dystopian shit but maybe thats just me

The Douche
1st October 2012, 19:32
if it turned out nobody could get pregnant and we were the last generation on earth that seems like a cause for a very large blowout party more than crazy dystopian shit but maybe thats just me

The people randomly attacking the train seemed like they were partying pretty hard.

Pirate Utopian
1st October 2012, 20:19
if it turned out nobody could get pregnant and we were the last generation on earth that seems like a cause for a very large blowout party more than crazy dystopian shit but maybe thats just me

And lots of consequence free sex.

ed miliband
1st October 2012, 20:23
there's a (probably mental) part of me that thinks the end of the world would be an incredible collective experience. (and longs for it in a strange way).

brigadista
1st October 2012, 20:51
the detention camp was quite good possible prediction ...

the last donut of the night
2nd October 2012, 20:26
i think the film does succeed both in form and content, but more in the camera work. however, i think zizek was right when he noted how the dystopian british government isn't the stereotypical conservative hivemind thought up in the orwellian sense but a bunch of "progressive" technocrats (theo's office and his brother's palace come to mind)

the last donut of the night
2nd October 2012, 20:29
and hey, once in a while we have to get a sci-fi movie that doesn't completely suck

Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages
3rd October 2012, 01:22
if it turned out nobody could get pregnant and we were the last generation on earth that seems like a cause for a very large blowout party more than crazy dystopian shit but maybe thats just me

The film doesn't really touch on it but in the novel the youngest generation breaks off from the rest of society and turns into nihilist savages who pillage and burn their way around the country.

The Douche
3rd October 2012, 01:28
The film doesn't really touch on it but in the novel the youngest generation breaks off from the rest of society and turns into nihilist savages who pillage and burn their way around the country.

No. Fucking. Way.

Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages
3rd October 2012, 01:41
No. Fucking. Way.

Yeah the scene in the movie where the people come out of the woods and attack the car and the train scene is pretty much all the attention they get, but they play a somewhat larger role in the book, and it actually explains what the deal is with them

The older generations start learning how to do basic farming and animal husbandry for when there aren't enough people to sustain the modern framework. They also start using dogs and cats as replacements for children. In some ways the novel it a lot more bleak, but only because it goes into more detail. The movie is still way better.

The Douche
3rd October 2012, 01:42
Yeah the scene in the movie where the people come out of the woods and attack the car and the train scene is pretty much all the attention they get, but they play a somewhat larger role in the book, and it actually explains what the deal is with them

The older generations start learning how to do basic farming and animal husbandry for when there aren't enough people to sustain the modern framework. They also start using dogs and cats as replacements for children. In some ways the novel it a lot more bleak, but only because it goes into more detail. The movie is still way better.

Damn, might have to get a copy of the book, then.

the last donut of the night
3rd October 2012, 02:30
i'd like to maraud a bit before i get old

Will Scarlet
4th October 2012, 23:41
I always felt that the narrative in D9 about race was an utter failure and quite problematic

I enjoyed the film as entertianment, but yeah I felt that it was problematic poltically too.
What were the problems with it?

Like I said I'm not that keen on the film but I think they just lost a thread of what they were trying to say rather than saying anything racist.

blake 3:17
4th October 2012, 23:49
I love Julianne Moore as a total kick ass guerilla shoot em upper.