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ComradeChe
18th September 2012, 22:33
"The Gospel Of Jesus' Wife," New Early Christian Text, Indicates Jesus May Have Been Married.
Christian tradition has long held that Jesus was not married, even though no reliable historical evidence exists to support that claim," King said at a conference in Rome on Tuesday. "This new gospel doesn’t prove that Jesus was married, but it tells us that the whole question only came up as part of vociferous debates about sexuality and marriage. From the very beginning, Christians disagreed about whether it was better not to marry, but it was over a century after Jesus’s death before they began appealing to Jesus’ marital status to support their positions."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/18/the-gospel-of-jesus-wife_n_1891325.html
Камо́ Зэд
18th September 2012, 22:52
I have enough trouble believing Jesus actually ever existed, even as a normal human being. That said, if he did exist, I'd have no trouble believing he was getting laid left and right.
Ostrinski
18th September 2012, 22:56
I have enough trouble believing Jesus actually ever existed, even as a normal human being. That said, if he did exist, I'd have no trouble believing he was getting laid left and right.chicks dig the whole messiah thing
Mass Grave Aesthetics
18th September 2012, 23:02
I´m already looking forward to the Third Testament of Jesus Christ and further splintering of the christian movement.
Mass Grave Aesthetics
19th September 2012, 00:17
chicks dig the whole messiah thing
ask any paranoid schizophreniac:cool:
Ostrinski
19th September 2012, 00:37
ask any paranoid schizophreniac:cool:You've gotta be able to rock it
cynicles
19th September 2012, 00:40
What is up with this sexual obsession the christians have and especially over their messiah? Moses and Mohammed got laid and jews and muslims don't try and cover that fact up, and yes I'm aware they aren't messiah figures for those religions but christians have a larger obsession with asceticism on the whole.
Lenina Rosenweg
19th September 2012, 00:42
I haven't seen the details of this but most likely its a Gnostic writing. There were zillions pf Gnostic writings, supppsedly written by various characters from the New Testament. There's even a recently discovered Gospel of Judas. In the Gnostic movement it was considered legitimate to write "in the spirit" of Paul, Matthew, Mark, Luke, Mary Magdalene and anyone else of significance.
The Gnostic Gospels by Elaine Pagels goes over a lot of this stuff. Supposedly Mary Magdalene was Jesus' girlfriend and the other disciples were jealous. Supposedly Jesus was something of a schoolyard bully and accidentally killed a classmate before he fully understood his powers.JC later felt guilty about this and brought the kid back to life.
The historical significance of a fragment referencing Jesus' wife is murky.Also I don't think the historical Jesus really existed anyway, so...
Astarte
19th September 2012, 03:31
The article makes a really big deal out of this, but its really not saying anything new ... "Maybe he was married to Mary Magdalene" - yeah, some "heresies" say this, and have said this already.
Its not going to change anything in the Catholic hierarchy as seems to be the hope and theme of the whole article. There's been lots of different religions that say lots of different things about Jesus, and with each new contradiction each faction just becomes more and more implanted into its own dogmas.
Christians say Jesus was born in a manager, Muslims say he was born in a date palm ... Catholics/Orthodox/Protestants say he was unmarried, Gnostics/heterodox sects sometimes say otherwise ... hell, Mormons even say he came to North America in his teen years. Diego Duran, an early Spanish missionary in the 16th century among the Aztecs hypothesized Thomas the apostle evangelized among the Meso-Americans - point is, the bureaucratic power apparatuses and dogmas of organized religions are not going to budge because a new piece of apocrypha or pseudepigrapha purporting a new theory has emerged.
Astarte
19th September 2012, 03:38
What is up with this sexual obsession the christians have and especially over their messiah? Moses and Mohammed got laid and jews and muslims don't try and cover that fact up, and yes I'm aware they aren't messiah figures for those religions but christians have a larger obsession with asceticism on the whole.
It is because Jesus is suppose to be God on Earth. That is, he is suppose to reflect the essence of unearthly Perfection. God does not "mate" with anything. God creates of and from himself/herself/itself - hence the theological reason for the asexuality of Jesus.
Zostrianos
19th September 2012, 03:39
Even the older Gospels, like Mark, are not fully reliable as a source on Jesus' life, given their late dates (the oldest is no earlier than 70 AD), and they are generally thought to have been written not in Palestine, but in Syria and Asia Minor:
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/keith_parsons/whynotchristian.html
Matthew: Written by an unknown Jewish Christian of the second generation; probably a resident of Antioch in Syria.
Mark: Notes confusion in the traditional identification of the author but offers no hypothesis.
Luke: Possibly written by a resident of Antioch and an occasional companion of the apostle Paul.
John: Composed and edited in stages by unknown followers of the apostle John, probably residents of Ephesus.
Trap Queen Voxxy
19th September 2012, 03:40
I would nail Jesus.
l'Enfermé
19th September 2012, 19:57
I knew it all along, it was in that Tom Hanks movie with Magneto.
Since Mohammad had a dozen wives and apparently liked to diddle little girls, and he was just a prophet, then Jesus should have been allowed a few hundred at least, being God and all. And some Angels, perhaps. And several penises, to please them all.
Brosa Luxemburg
19th September 2012, 20:12
I would nail Jesus.
Pun intended?
Prometeo liberado
19th September 2012, 20:57
chicks dig the whole messiah thing
You don't have to convince me:
http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=I.4729330928583076&pid=1.7&w=115&h=150&c=7&rs=1
brigadista
19th September 2012, 23:03
so there are descendants? :D:D
cynicles
20th September 2012, 00:32
It is because Jesus is suppose to be God on Earth. That is, he is suppose to reflect the essence of unearthly Perfection. God does not "mate" with anything. God creates of and from himself/herself/itself - hence the theological reason for the asexuality of Jesus.
Yeah but there is still sex for pleasure ...oh that's right christians only have sex for procreation, well I guess that option is gone.
Black_Rose
20th September 2012, 04:27
According to Sun Myung Moon, Jesus failed in his mission to be the "New Adam" since he was killed before he could marry and found a new family as the "True Parents".
Prometeo liberado
20th September 2012, 04:46
According to Sun Myung Moon, Jesus failed in his mission to be the "New Adam" since he was killed before he could marry and found a new family as the "True Parents".
When I was crossing the Himalayas my Sherpa, TuungSuong, told me a very similar story. Sans the Rev. Moon part and instead insisted that it was one of the Llamas. You were way off!
Astarte
20th September 2012, 04:58
According to Sun Myung Moon, Jesus failed in his mission to be the "New Adam" since he was killed before he could marry and found a new family as the "True Parents".
I don't put much, if any, stock in Sun Myung Moon, and I am not sure if Jesus's theological plan was to be the Adam after being split into the duality of Adam and Eve either - this represented the creation of humanity - Jesus was all about ascension and surpassing the material body. Adam, or the "Adamas" in his first original state, undivided between Adam and Eve was originally conceived of as being a perfect material replica in totality of the Godhead (Demiurge), or was created in the image of the first emanation of the Monad; the "Perfect Aeon" (depending on which text you are reading and from which gnostic tradition) - they all agree though that the Adamas was an androgynous perfect proto-human. I think many Gnostics have understood Jesus as attempting to emulate this first Adamas, rather than Adam, Eve's counter-part before "original sin". This is why even in official Catholic dogma "Jesus's Bride" is actually the Church itself (the church as in the actual church apparatus, but also all Christians) - thus, in a way this would be the earthly parallel of the Aeon "Pistis Sophia" or "Faith-Wisdom", as the Aeon Sophia is known as the "Queen of Heaven", and likewise is the consort of the Godhead.
Zealot
24th September 2012, 06:34
It doesn't really say much, Gnostics had a preoccupation with writing some really unusual stuff. But then again, modern Christianity must seem just as batshit insane to an outsider.
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