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ÑóẊîöʼn
6th September 2012, 13:02
The Cost of Raising Children (Report by Child Poverty Action Group) (http://www.cpag.org.uk/content/new-cpag-report-cost-child)

Came across this report today, so I thought I'd share. It's worth reading in the light of the insane and backwards policy of cuts being pursued by the UK's Con-Dem coalition government.

Some highlights from the report:


There is broad consensus that children’s needs today comprise not
just an adequate diet and the physical necessities of life, but also
the ability to participate in society – for example, by going to
birthday parties, taking part in after-school activities and having a
modest annual holiday with their families.

 Not being able to afford these things can have serious
consequences for children. Research evidence shows how material
hardship and social exclusion can be associated with damage to
children’s physical health, to their self-esteem and to their longterm development.

a decline in public transport
options has contributed to a consensus that it is untenable for
households with children to manage without a car. This introduces
a substantial additional expense to the costs of a child.

On average, the first child in a couple costs
£89 a week and the second child £81 a week, not including housing
and childcare costs. The basic cost of bringing up each child from birth
to age 18 is estimated at between £73,000 and £94,000, but for working
families who require childcare, the total cost is between £110,000 and
£160,000.

benefits overall provide only about 50 to 60 per cent of what a
whole family with children requires.

For those renting in the private sector, on the other hand, an
additional room even in modestly priced accommodation can add
approximately £25,000 to the lifetime cost of a child.

some parents in the Centre for Research in Social Policy’s study on
credit and debt admitted to favouring ‘junk’ food when under financial
pressure, even though they knew it was not healthy – one parent said
she had recently bought 40 sausages for 89p.

The risk for families with limited resources is that either children’s needs
are inadequately met or they are met only at serious cost to the
wellbeing of their parents.

having access to both the
physical and social norms of life in one’s own society are of equal
importance.

Not being able to afford to take
part in activities with one’s peers (for example, paying an entry charge
or buying refreshments) profoundly affects children’s ability to make
and sustain friendships, makes them feel different and results in
bullying and stigma.

It can also result in boredom and involvement
in crime/anti-social behaviour. Not being able to afford to participate
in various in- and after-school activities affects children’s relationships
with teachers and can damage their experience of formal schooling.

One significant cost is the school uniform. Many parents and social
commentators point out that a uniform can be a ‘social leveller’ by
disguising social difference through what children wear, and avoiding
undue pressures on low-income families to pay for expensive items
that are in fashion. However, Citizens Advice has noted that some
schools’ practices, such as restricting the supplier, can make it difficult
for parents to afford.

In some respects, the additional cost of each extra child in a family
should diminish. Economies of scale mean that it is not always necessary
to buy so much additionally for each successive child, particularly in
the case of items that only need to be bought once. For example, if a
family cannot cope adequately without a car once the first child
arrives (as the 2012 MIS research found), this will impose an additional
car purchase cost that will not recur when the second child arrives.
However, in some cases, having a large family creates new categories
of needs. For example, families consider that a tumble dryer becomes
essential once a family reaches a certain size. For this reason, the
additional cost of each successive child does not fall as systematically
as might otherwise be the case.

Having children leaves adults on benefits worse off. Additional state support for families with children is lower than a child’s minimum needs, so families face a growing shortfall with each child. Parents react by spending less money on themselves; in some cases parents will even skip meals so that their children don’t go without. If a single parent of three children used his/her adult benefit income to top up the child-related benefits so the minimum needs of the children are met, they would have just £12 a week to meet their own basic needs.

That last one in particular is a massive fucking slap in the face to those fuckheads who go on about people on benefits having more kids to get more money. It's quite clearly not fucking true, and constitutes a vile smear on every parent who is forced to get by on the pittances grudgingly offered by a benefits system that sees all recipients as potential criminals.

Philosophos
6th September 2012, 13:54
Well yeah that's what's happening. Especially in Mediterranean countries where parents have an even stronger bond for their children (I'm not saying the others don't but in these countries the percent of the families are much higher).

Anyway I see people getting financial help from their parents each day or month (and we're talking for lots of money) and their parents don't go out almost AT ALL! They don't have at all! Because of the cuts in salaries, the taxes and special taxes people will start working more and having less fun. It's like they're going to be in their 60's while they're only 30.

But still people support capitalism because it's the "sure way". I'm sorry but I can't stand it....

citizen of industry
6th September 2012, 14:11
This is what results in population decline in developed countries. Japan is a prime example. It's impossible to have more than one kid if you are a worker. Two parents making substinence wages, can only afford one child= population decline and aging population on a rapid scale.

ÑóẊîöʼn
6th September 2012, 14:14
@ VMK:

I get the feeling you're talking about grown-up children living with their parents, which is understandably happening more often as living on one's own becomes more and more expensive. This report is talking about children below the legal age of majority who live with parents claiming financial assistance from the government.

Capitalism is ultimately to blame for both, but I think what you're talking about deserves its own thread. If I come across a report on that I will be sure to post it.

Philosophos
6th September 2012, 14:43
@ VMK:

I get the feeling you're talking about grown-up children living with their parents, which is understandably happening more often as living on one's own becomes more and more expensive. This report is talking about children below the legal age of majority who live with parents claiming financial assistance from the government.

Capitalism is ultimately to blame for both, but I think what you're talking about deserves its own thread. If I come across a report on that I will be sure to post it.

Not just grown up children. Until last year I was a minor and I live in a mediterranean country so I know that people in mediterranean countries have a more close relationship with their kids (it doesn't matter if their minors or grown ups) . My parents are not going out for example in a restaurant, for a cup of coffee or anything that will give them joy because they want me to have fun and they can't afford both sides having fun. They they deprived things for my sake (and some times depriving even now).... That's what I wanted to say.

citizen of industry
6th September 2012, 14:44
Actually, since wages according to Marx means reproducing the labor power of the worker (and therefore the worker himself), declining population means the workforce is being paid below substinence wages - the workforce can't reproduce itself. So while playing up culture and nationalism in the media to stifle the labour movement, the country actually destroys itself by producing abroad, depending on export, and paying the "home" population not enough to reproduce itself.

ÑóẊîöʼn
6th September 2012, 14:57
Actually, since wages according to Marx means reproducing the labor power of the worker (and therefore the worker himself), declining population means the workforce is being paid below substinence wages - the workforce can't reproduce itself. So while playing up culture and nationalism in the media to stifle the labour movement, the country actually destroys itself by producing abroad, depending on export, and paying the "home" population not enough to reproduce itself.

This makes sense considering what I've been reading about how wages in the developed countries have not, since the seventies (I think) been increasing in line with living expenses.