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DannyRed
4th September 2012, 10:37
Right! Biggggg problem.
My girlfriend is a out and out tory capitalist! like we're talking f*** the poor dog eat dog kinda person... She comes from a family of bankers and what not... really messing me up. I love the girl to bits and i actually really liked her family but only found this all out last night... advice?
Thanks

citizen of industry
4th September 2012, 14:53
You should immediately cease all contact with her. Tell her that you "love her to bits" but that she is evil Tory scum and would be better off dead. Then spit on her and run away.

Seriously though, just stick to your politics. It might end up in divorce one day, but by then all the love will be gone and you'll be happy to go anyway.

Ostrinski
4th September 2012, 15:36
In the case of conflicting politics between lovers I agree with the take it as it comes sentiment. Just play it out and if your differences become too pronounced in your relationship then jump ship.

Simple.

DannyRed
4th September 2012, 19:00
Yeah i have been very much so leaning to "dumping her"
Will be a shame though. At least i have taken away from this that i have done so much to dehumanize these kind of people... but now realise that we're all human and everyone is someones girlfriend, boyfriend, sister, brother, mother etc
Just sucks man... she's so bloody hot too.... :P

bad ideas actualised by alcohol
4th September 2012, 19:30
Say you love her to bits, and then cut her to bits.
That'll teach her.

Sam_b
4th September 2012, 19:40
I wouldn't ask tips from a bunch of anonymouses on an internet forum about such things tbh.

Камо́ Зэд
4th September 2012, 19:51
Instead of saying her name, just shout complex economic theories during sex.

DannyRed
4th September 2012, 19:58
Instead of saying her name, just shout complex economic theories during sex.

I LOVE THIS IDEA!!! Or i could just tape statistics on the headboard and ask her what her views are on the defense budget.... haha

Karabin
4th September 2012, 23:36
My girlfriend is similar, but not to such an extent. I find it to be very helpful to just not bring up politics or ideology whatsoever because it would only cause problems. Easier said than done, of course. Sometimes I find myself rambling on about something and I start edging towards topics closely related to Communism, but then you just need to learn when to cut yourself short and say something like "Sorry, you don't want to hear me ramble on etc".

To quote (Not exact quote) Cole Phelps from the video game L.A. Noire: Don't discuss religion or politics with friends or family

Vladimir Innit Lenin
4th September 2012, 23:40
Couldn't go out with a Tory girl.

My girl is a liberal feminist, but even if she's not really sold on communism, she at least understands why Capitalism produces so much fucking shit for so many people, and we can at least find common ground.

The other night we actually had a chat about supply- and demand-side production processes under communism. Result. Even if we didn't totally agree.

Philosophos
4th September 2012, 23:47
Just tell her your views. Even if your tendencie might not be "right" for her at least she will have her eyes open about capitalism. If she finds capitalism right then she has huge issues or she's not into politics and doesn't know anything at all.

Blake's Baby
5th September 2012, 00:05
Agree with her that rioters are scum and students are spoiled children that are wasting taxpayers' money. You'll be fine. Before you know it you'll schmoozing with the bankers and wondering why you ever had ridiculous childish notions that there were more important things than money (eg people).

ellipsis
5th September 2012, 02:26
My 8 year gf is sympathetic but I wouldn't call her revolutionary or anti-cap. I say stick it out and practice your agit prop. Also what Sam b said.

human strike
8th September 2012, 11:30
A lot of my friends on the far-left treat sleeping with reactionaries as if it is something very wrong. I've never understood this sentiment. To me, it feels like the extension of politics as debate (as opposed to politics as direct action), like you can't sleep with a Tory because that means you lose the argument. The way I see it, the Tory loses - where's the commodity exchange in sex?! But then maybe they know something I don't; I've never slept with a Tory...

Igor
8th September 2012, 11:55
why do you think random internet people can priorize shit this personal better than you can? we don't know you, at all. i probably couldn't date a person with views that different from those of mine but i'm not saying this can't be the case for someone else. you need to sort this shit out yourself but i know people who have pretty polar political views and still manage to do well together. we can't know if you could be one of those people, only you can.

DannyRed
8th September 2012, 15:00
Thanks for all your words of advice everyone, i appreciate it :) Unfortunately i ended up finishing the relationship about a hour ago. Maybe it was a good thing maybe it wasn't but i couldn't have a conflict of interest personally
Many thanks guys

helot
8th September 2012, 15:02
Personally i couldn't be in a relationship with someone who's opposed to me. A functional relationship needs to be one based on support. There of course doesn't need to be full on agreement but as a revolutionary your politics and your actions are incredibly important to you, you'll no doubt be spending alot of time on picketlines over the years and with a partner that understands and supports you there won't be any conflict around it when that time could have been used to spend time with them.

Thankfully, while my partner doesn't identify as a communist she's incredibly sympathetic and regularly joins me on actions. Nothing fills me with joy more than being on a picketline with my partner.

Human Lefts
8th September 2012, 16:02
Stimulus -> values -> roles

That's how some theorist I learned about in class looked at the progression of intimate relationships. First, they have to be physically appealing to you. After you get past that, your values have to match. Last, you have to take roles that compliment and not conflict with each other. If you can't get past the values part, according to this theorist, then its probably not going to work out. Or, you can do what I do and eat shit with someone that half-meets your needs and fuck yourself out of a meaningful relationship.

Will Scarlet
9th September 2012, 15:46
A lot of my friends on the far-left treat sleeping with reactionaries as if it is something very wrong. I've never understood this sentiment. To me, it feels like the extension of politics as debate (as opposed to politics as direct action), like you can't sleep with a Tory because that means you lose the argument. The way I see it, the Tory loses - where's the commodity exchange in sex?! But then maybe they know something I don't; I've never slept with a Tory...
Sex is sweaty dialectics.

Danielle Ni Dhighe
29th September 2012, 11:27
In my experience, there needs to be common ground to have a serious relationship with someone. Now if it's a purely sexual relationship, that really doesn't matter.