Pregnant rape victim shoots and decapitates attacker

[Terminator X]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2197486/Pregnant-rape-victim-shoots-DECAPITATES-attacker-leaving-severed-head-village-square.html



A pregnant rape victim in Turkey shot and decapitated her attacker then left his severed head in the square of her local village.
The woman, five months pregnant, is demanding authorities let her have an abortion even though she is way beyond the ten week limit allowed for terminations in Turkey.
When police arrested her near to the severed head she said; 'That is the head of one who toyed with my honour.'

The rapist had taken nude photos of her and threatened to send them to her parents unless she continued sleeping with him.
She took a gun and shot him ten times, several times in his private parts, before cutting off his head and hurling it into the village square at Yalvac.

The man was also reportedly stabbed in the abdomen after he was shot.
'He kept saying that he would tell everyone about the rape,' she reportedly said during her testimony. 'My daughter will start school this year.
'Everyone would have insulted my children. Now no one can. I saved my honour,' she added.
'They will now call children the kids of the women who saved her honor.'


Since there are so many liberals on this forum who get offended when any deaths are cheered, regardless of context, I present this link free of comment.

[Comrades Unite!]

He deserved it end of.

Any coward like him should be looked at only from the sights of a gun.

[Ostrinski]

Badasses itt

[Althusser]

Give her the abortion.

She was blackmailed... also let her out of prison and into some psychiatric help to help her through this experience.

Also the rapist fucker deserved it.

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

Anyone whom says she's in the wrong can fuck themselves.

[Orange Juche]

I'd be curious what the response to this would be in the United States, if it played out exactly the same, except in the United States - past the stage of development where abortion is still legal.

[Dennis the 'Bloody Peasant']

Can't help but feel this was justified in the sense that any and all rapists need putting down...but an annoying part of my brain is whispering that capital punishment is morally bankrupt and revenge isn't justice and blah blah...I don't know, I've never been a victim of rape so I can never comment with any true conviction beyond intelectual arguments about crime and punishment...
But like I say, my gut reaction is good riddance and let her have the abortion.

[Nox]

Anyone whom says she's in the wrong can fuck themselves.

Depends whether or not you think murder is a worse crime than rape.

[Terminator X]

I'd be curious what the response to this would be in the United States, if it played out exactly the same, except in the United States - past the stage of development where abortion is still legal.

Not sure what you're getting at, but there is no stage of development where abortion is illegal in the US - especially for a rape victim.

[jookyle]

Not sure what you're getting at, but there is no stage of development where abortion is illegal in the US - especially for a rape victim.

She'd be chucked in jail here without a second thought.

That fuck got what was coming to him. I have no problem with a rape victim shooting their attacker.

[Rugged Collectivist]

She'd be chucked in jail here without a second thought.

Yeah. Some people would defend her but the majority would condemn her as a murderer. It doesn't help that she cut the guys head off.

I'm unsure about all this. On the one hand I acknowledge that her actions were acceptable under such circumstances, and I don't have any sympathy for the rapist. On the other hand I think this might set a bad precedent. Revenge killing really isn't a good basis for a justice system. Of course most places don't have a good justice system so maybe this was the only way.


Everyone would have insulted my children. Now no one can. I saved my honour

This actually bothers me a lot. She was genuinely afraid that her children would be mocked because she was raped. Would the police in turkey overlook her situation?

[Quail]

**** deserved it end of.

Next time you need an insult can you pick a different word? In the UK and I'm assuming Ireland, it's not considered to be as much of a gendered insult, but in the US it is so we don't use it on this forum because it has sexist connotations.

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I think that what this woman did is completely understandable. She's pregnant from rape and was being blackmailed and I have no sympathy for the guy that did that to her.

I don't think that we should be celebrating this as what should happen to all rapists though. Vengeance isn't justice and maybe killing the guy was necessary to get her out of the situation but it doesn't really make anything better in that she still suffered through everything he did, and killing one rapist won't stop there from being more rapists. Rape and abuse are complex issues that will not be solved simply by killing offenders.

I think it's a bit disturbing that she felt that killing him would restore her honour. Rape does not and should never be seen as something that takes away a person's honour. She always had her honour, raped or not, and it was the rapist who had no honour for raping her. It shows that attitudes to rape and women in Turkey have a long way to go.

[Jimmie Higgins]

Next time you need an insult can you pick a different word? In the UK and I'm assuming Ireland, it's not considered to be as much of a gendered insult, but in the US it is so we don't use it on this forum because it has sexist connotations.Especially when worded like that - I initially read that sentence as: "She deserved it":ohmy:. Men are almost never called "****s" in the US (as opposed to "*****" which still has sexist connotations of course but is applied equally to men and women in practice) unless being compared to a woman.

[citizen of industry]

Can't help but feel this was justified in the sense that any and all rapists need putting down...but an annoying part of my brain is whispering that capital punishment is morally bankrupt and revenge isn't justice and blah blah...I don't know, I've never been a victim of rape so I can never comment with any true conviction beyond intelectual arguments about crime and punishment...
But like I say, my gut reaction is good riddance and let her have the abortion.

There's a difference though. This isn't capital punishment, it's a rape victim taking revenge. The brutality of her response seems to justify it. With capital punishment, the state decides, and employs an executioner. Personally, I don't approve of a state having the ability to imprison and execute, as long as the state is controlled by a class in opposition to my own.

What you like about the article, is that the guy objectified the woman and forced his power over that object, and didn't imagine for a second the object was subject, shot him 10 times, stabbed him, cut his balls off and decapitated him. She is right in that her "honor" was saved, because she got hers. I bet the policeman felt guilty carrying her off. Abstracting from the law, all signs point to "right" in this case. If she does have the baby though, it's not its fault. I hope social services in Turkey are sufficient to provide for her and it, but under capitalism, I highly doubt it.

[Comrades Unite!]

Especially when worded like that - I initially read that sentence as: "She deserved it":ohmy:. Men are almost never called "****s" in the US (as opposed to "*****" which still has sexist connotations of course but is applied equally to men and women in practice) unless being compared to a woman.

Comrades, **** refered to the man, Its rare to see a women called a **** over here in Ireland.

I shall remove it.

[Obs]

Killing folks is generally bad. Killing this guy... well.

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Killing folks is generally bad. Killing this guy... well.

Why is killing folks bad?

As for the topic, guy deserved it.

[Obs]

Why is killing folks bad?
Because I'm not trying to be edgy.

[Workers-Control-Over-Prod]

Depends whether or not you think murder is a worse crime than rape.

Well, i'm not christian, so i don't believe that murder is the worse than rape. I think oppression is the "worst" most vile form of violence, and it seems this dead rapist had a lengthy oppressive, vile relationship with this woman. I don't advocate capital punishment, but if any victim of oppression feels the need to kill her oppressor, i won't stop it. Neither will i applaud it on such a scale and in such a brutal personal manner. I would applaud it however if it were a mass uprising of propertyless versus owners.

[Robespierres Neck]

I Spit On Your Grave anyone?

[Камо́ Зэд]

Thanks to this woman, I suspect men in that village will think twice before putting their hands on someone.

[Comrade Samuel]

Shooting him 10 times and chopping his head off might of been a bit of overkill but I guess it's better than letting that piece of shit walk away after doing such a thing.

[Robespierres Neck]

Shooting him 10 times and chopping his head off might of been a bit of overkill but I guess it's better than letting that piece of shit walk away after doing such a thing.

It makes a pretty bold statement.

[Os Cangaceiros]

There was actually a thread like this a while back, involving a rape victim (IIRC) cutting off some dude's head, and the thread eventually just turned into a giant pun session about it being too bad that someone "lost their head over the situation", and then a bunch of music videos like Basement Jaxx's "Where's Your Head At?" and Queen's "Don't Lose Your Head".

I'm disappointed that this thread didn't go in the same direction. :(

[Obs]

There was actually a thread like this a while back, involving a rape victim (IIRC) cutting off some dude's head, and the thread eventually just turned into a giant pun session about it being too bad that someone "lost their head over the situation", and then a bunch of music videos like Basement Jaxx's "Where's Your Head At?" and Queen's "Don't Lose Your Head".

I'm disappointed that this thread didn't go in the same direction. :(
Fuck, me too. We should be more like GBS. Though I guess it says a thing or two about this forum that we'd benefit from being more like GBS.

[Hermes]

I can't really applaud this, to be honest.

[Ostrinski]

I mean, I can definitely see where she was coming from, and I think given the situation she was justified in doing it. But I do think it's kinda repulsive that people always try to use these types of things to pedal a half ass point. It just kinda.. trivializes it.

[Leftsolidarity]

I can't really applaud this, to be honest.

You can't applaud a woman defending herself from rape and constant harassment on an extreme level?

[Princess Luna]

You can't applaud a woman defending herself from rape and constant harassment on an extreme level?
Had she just shot him in the testicles, I would be applauding her, but shooting someone 10 times, stabbing them several more, and then cutting their head off and displaying it in a public place, is not self defense, its revenge. She went to far, what happened to her was horrible, but that doesn't give her a free pass to commit murder.

[Althusser]

There was actually a thread like this a while back, involving a rape victim (IIRC) cutting off some dude's head, and the thread eventually just turned into a giant pun session about it being too bad that someone "lost their head over the situation", and then a bunch of music videos like Basement Jaxx's "Where's Your Head At?" and Queen's "Don't Lose Your Head".

I'm disappointed that this thread didn't go in the same direction. :(

To the rescue!

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[khad]

To the rescue!

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Well, if you can't talk about this with maturity, you might as well not talk about it at all. Thread closed.