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ВАЛТЕР
26th August 2012, 21:31
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/aug/25/france-refuses-greece-call-reforms?fb=native&CMP=FBCNETTXT9038



The French president, François Hollande (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/francois-hollande), has put more pressure on Greece (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/greece) to push ahead with painful reforms after a meeting with the Greek prime minister, Antonis Samaras.
While Hollande praised Greek citizens for making necessary budget cuts, which EU leaders hope will pull Greece back from crisis and secure the next round of bailout funds, the French leader offered no concessions to Samaras during their meeting in Paris on Saturday.
Samaras has been seeking more time to pass reforms, arguing that an extension of up to two years would allow Greece time to improve growth and therefore its public finances.
But Hollande said no decision could be taken on the issue until European ministers have considered a financial report on Greece, which is due to be published by the International Monetary Fund, the European commission and the European Central Bank in September.
The report will be presented to a Eurogroup summit in October and Hollande said Europe (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/europe-news) needed to make decisions "the sooner the better".
"We've been facing this question for two-and-a-half years; there's no time to lose, there are commitments to reaffirm on both sides, decisions to take, and the sooner the better," Hollande said.
Hollande's position echoes that of the German chancellor, Angela Merkel, who met Samaras in Berlin on Friday.
However, the French president was keen to promote the idea of solidarity. "For me, the question should no longer be asked: Greece is in the eurozone," he said.
"In the face of ordeals, we must show more solidarity … I hailed the efforts that the Greek people have committed to painfully for the last two years," Hollande said. "We need to be aware of all that has been done."
Samaras needs to put in place economic and structural reforms, which include changes to the labour market and more privatisation, and spending cuts of some €11.5bn (£9.1bn) over the next two years.
Responding to concerns that Greece may not stick to such harsh requirements amid pressure from the financial markets, Samaras restated a commitment to the plan.
"Some continue to speculate against Greece … to speculate by saying that Greece won't pull through, that it can't stay in the eurozone," he said. "I'm here today to say that will pull through, it will stay in the eurozone. I also think we can fulfil our commitments and goals, reduce our deficits, reduce our debt, achieve the structural reforms that have begun privatisations and justice."
If he succeeds, Samaras will secure €33.5bn in the second instalment of the €130bn bailout, which Greece needs to repay on its debt burden and to stay in the euro (http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/euro).

Philosophos
26th August 2012, 21:41
I found a mistake "....Samaras has been seeking more time to pass reforms, arguing that an extension of up to two years...." you should say bend over...

Ocean Seal
27th August 2012, 01:26
Why did people like Hollande again? Because he wasn't Sarko right?

Sea
27th August 2012, 04:44
Why did people like Hollande again? Because he wasn't Sarko right?
Yeah. Same reason liberals love Obama so much.

REDSOX
27th August 2012, 17:17
Anyone who had illusions in Francois Hollande should take a look at his governments policies towards the Roma community in France which exceeds even what sarkozy was doing.

As for Greece, well how much more can the greeks take for gods sake!!!!

Igor
27th August 2012, 17:21
Social democracy ending the bourgeois class rule one austerity measure at a time!

Philosophos
27th August 2012, 18:26
Anyone who had illusions in Francois Hollande should take a look at his governments policies towards the Roma community in France which exceeds even what sarkozy was doing.

As for Greece, well how much more can the greeks take for gods sake!!!!

We can take a lot... When there is a strike almost noone goes. When there is a demonstration there are thousands of people that go, but even more that don't.
Do you know what I hear from them? "Someday the people will start a riot". They never say I want to start a riot. They never say who these people are. They don't know what kind of riot this will be... They're expecting the Mesiah or something I don't know.

Anyway greek people can take a lot, remember my words nothing will happen even if the goverment starts taking all their money. Only if the left people unite just for a while so we can open the damned eyes of all the right-wingers.

A Marxist Historian
27th August 2012, 18:41
We can take a lot... When there is a strike almost noone goes. When there is a demonstration there are thousands of people that go, but even more that don't.
Do you know what I hear from them? "Someday the people will start a riot". They never say I want to start a riot. They never say who these people are. They don't know what kind of riot this will be... They're expecting the Mesiah or something I don't know.

Anyway greek people can take a lot, remember my words nothing will happen even if the goverment starts taking all their money. Only if the left people unite just for a while so we can open the damned eyes of all the right-wingers.

This is because the wrath of the working class has been diverted into the fool's gold of SYRIZA and its electoral performance. So all too many workers are waiting for the next round of elections and hoping SYRIZA will win next time.

It is amazing how useful SYRIZA is for the Greek ruling class.

-M.H.-

Philosophos
28th August 2012, 13:08
This is because the wrath of the working class has been diverted into the fool's gold of SYRIZA and its electoral performance. So all too many workers are waiting for the next round of elections and hoping SYRIZA will win next time.

It is amazing how useful SYRIZA is for the Greek ruling class.

-M.H.-

It's not only the working class. A lot of young people voted SYRIZA because they thought they were saying nice things (they are a coalition and all of them say something different from each other it's ridiculous) and Tsipras (the president) is a new politician so they hoped he is not corrupted....

There is absolutely no critical thinking around here...

Geiseric
1st September 2012, 19:14
Lol SYRIZA IS going to win next time. If kke entered into syriza we wouldn't be having this problem

Raúl Duke
1st September 2012, 23:38
Considering the reaction of the rest of the eurozone towards Greece has been a cold one...

I doubt SYRIZA can do anything, especially since I believe they hold the illusion that they can stay in the economic eurozone while not facing strict austerity measures; which is increasingly becoming pure fantasy. Greece (seeming? I don't know much about the Euro but it looks like Greece has no control of the fiat money supply) lack of control of monetary policy, the other eurozone countries don't want to forgive/help/etc with the debt, and other factors make it difficult for Greece if they stay within the EU.

The financial elites want the working class to pay dearly and are having all the eurozone bourgeois governments make sure it happens in Greece whether they like it or not; official 'politics' is perhaps a complete waste of time for the Greeks....