Breivik found sane and sentenced to 21 years

[Dennis the 'Bloody Peasant']

Should have been life but so long as he's locked up I guess. Part of me wanted an insanity verdict because it would hurt him personally (his absurd ego and delusions of grandure) and be a way of saying these kind of acts, and the beliefs that fuel them, are...well, crazy.

A Norwegian court has found that mass killer Anders Behring Breivik is sane and sentenced him to 21 years in jail.
Breivik admitted killing 77 people and wounding more than 240 others when he bombed central Oslo and then opened fire at an island youth camp last year.
He insisted he was sane and refused to plead guilty, seeking to justify his attacks by saying they were necessary to stop the "Islamisation" of Norway.
Prosecutors had called for him to be considered insane.
The five judges were unanimous in ruling that Breivik was sane.
He was convicted of terrorism and premeditated murder, and given the maximum sentence of 21 years' imprisonment.
However, that can be prolonged at a later date if he is deemed to remain a danger to society.

(BBC News)

[Igor]

The Norwegian legal system doesn't allow life sentence per se, but after the 21 years has passed the sentence can be be prolonged every five years, as long as it's considered necessary. So in practice it's really going to be a lot more than just 21 years for Breivik.

[Igor]

lol The Sun being classy as fuck about this as always

http://i.imgur.com/KnIfY.png

[Regicollis]

Breivik clearly isn't insane. He believed insane things but the political climate in Europe is accepting its basic premise of Islam as a severe threat to western societies. He only drew a logical conclusion from his deranged beliefs and planned it over great time and with great care for detail.

Breivik can be released after 10 years but that - like the question whether his sentence will be increased after 21 years - depends on a psychiatric evaluation. It is unlikely that he will ever leave prison since his beliefs are set in stone. However if he changes his ways and can no longer be seen as a danger to society he will be able to be released.

By the way I think the Norwegian legal system is very civilised for a bourgeois system. I like the fact that the principle is that everyone should be able to get out of prison. The whole "life without parole" thing Americans have seems a little too much like western movie justice to me.

[Philosophos]

Wait until the catch all the guys from piratebay, megaupload and all the other pirate sites. They are going in jail for more than a millenium... But they stole MONEY for the COMPANIES... Breivik just killed some people... :thumbdown:

[Flying Purple People Eater]

Did they ever dig anything up on the guy's family background? Surely you don't become a supremacist overnight.

[Rottenfruit]

Should have been life but so long as he's locked up I guess. Part of me wanted an insanity verdict because it would hurt him personally (his absurd ego and delusions of grandure) and be a way of saying these kind of acts, and the beliefs that fuel them, are...well, crazy.

A Norwegian court has found that mass killer Anders Behring Breivik is sane and sentenced him to 21 years in jail.
Breivik admitted killing 77 people and wounding more than 240 others when he bombed central Oslo and then opened fire at an island youth camp last year.
He insisted he was sane and refused to plead guilty, seeking to justify his attacks by saying they were necessary to stop the "Islamisation" of Norway.
Prosecutors had called for him to be considered insane.
The five judges were unanimous in ruling that Breivik was sane.
He was convicted of terrorism and premeditated murder, and given the maximum sentence of 21 years' imprisonment.
However, that can be prolonged at a later date if he is deemed to remain a danger to society.

(BBC News)
Yeah and if Breivik had been a muslim he would have never been acchshed of having mental illness.

Also its higly offensive to people who suffer from mental illnessess when a serious subject like this is triviliazed to justify vile actions of a man.

If breivik had been a arab and a muslim nobody would have doubed his sanity , but when its a white christian everybody tries to blame it on something else then the person himself.

Im thankful he was judge sane because i was scared if he would have been judged insane it would increase the stigiamzation of people suffering from mental illnesess

[Dennis the 'Bloody Peasant']

Yeah and if Breivik had been a muslim he would have never been acchshed of having mental illness.

Also its higly offensive to people who suffer from mental illnessess when a serious subject like this is triviliazed to justify vile actions of a man.

If breivik had been a arab and a muslim nobody would have doubed his sanity , but when its a white christian everybody tries to blame it on something else then the person himself.

Im thankful he was judge sane because i was scared if he would have been judged insane it would increase the stigiamzation of people suffering from mental illnesess

A fair point, I was just saying I wish there was some way that his beliefs (not his actions) could be dismissed and forgotten about but I see your point about an inapproriate label of 'insanity'.

[Yazman]

It takes away from the nature of what he did to simply just portray him as mentally ill, when he clearly isn't. Ordinary people are capable of doing horrific things, and this is a clear cut example thereof.

It's very easy to downplay Breivik's ideology if everybody can just say, "he's not mentally well, don't worry about it". Everybody wants to ignore that this was a man motivated by religion & xenophobia, yet were he of middle eastern or african descent they certainly would not be doing so.

[Buttress]

Killing 77 people and having no remorse for it is not the sign of an "ordinary person". Sociopathy exists. Yes he might be "accountable" but that doesn't mean he isn't completely nuts as well.

21 years (recurring) sounds fair, for the sake of public safety. But he should be on some form of psychiatric evaluation.

[MaximMK]

21 years is nothing he deserves either life sentence or death penalty. Right-wing religious assholes like him are vermin of the world.

[Rottenfruit]

Killing 77 people and having no remorse for it is not the sign of an "ordinary person". Sociopathy exists. Yes he might be "accountable" but that doesn't mean he isn't completely nuts as well.

21 years (recurring) sounds fair, for the sake of public safety. But he should be on some form of psychiatric evaluation.
Sociopathy is not mental illness. Its just being evil

[Igor]

21 years is nothing he deserves either life sentence or death penalty. Right-wing religious assholes like him are vermin of the world.

He might very well sit for life. People are sticking to the 21 years way too much.

[Conscript]

He should just be shot and be done with it already.

[Lynx]

'Sociopathy' is a personality disorder.

[MaximMK]

I saw this just now. Just look at the conditions in the prison this beast is staying in. He has a PC probably with net, he has workout machines, normal chairs and shit. Lots of poor homeless people can only dream of a home like this.

http://www.motika.com.mk/index.php?option=com_content&id=34008

[Q]

The Norwegian legal system doesn't allow life sentence per se, but after the 21 years has passed the sentence can be be prolonged every five years, as long as it's considered necessary. So in practice it's really going to be a lot more than just 21 years for Breivik.

Actually, the way I got it is that the sentence can be extended by another 5 years, twice. So, the maximum sentence would be 31 years in total.

But I'm hardly an expert of Norwegian criminal law.

[rednordman]

Actually, the way I got it is that the sentence can be extended by another 5 years, twice. So, the maximum sentence would be 31 years in total.

But I'm hardly an expert of Norwegian criminal law.He WILL be imprisoned for the rest of his life. There are other norwegiens who have basically been had life sentences but under the guise of 21years with reviews afterwards. One of them may have been a Soviet spy in the 1980s, but cannot remember his name.

[Zukunftsmusik]

Did they ever dig anything up on the guy's family background? Surely you don't become a supremacist overnight.

Surely you don't, but I think learning ideology from shady blogs has more to do with it than his family. Class background may have played a role, though, as he's grown up in a fairly isolated, well-off part of Oslo, that breeds, if not fascists, at least prejudices in large quanta.

What's interesting to observe in the Norwegian (and probably international) media, is how toned-down his anti-marxism is. When he was arrested he said he was a representative of "the norwegian anti-marxist resistance", however in the media this has often just been reproduced as "the norwegian resistance". His anti-marxism may even be of greater importance to his ideology than his "counterjihadism".

Anti-marxism and "counterjihadism" are clearly not mental illnesses, so I'm relieved the court sentenced him as they did.

[Zukunftsmusik]

I saw this just now. Just look at the conditions in the prison this beast is staying in. He has a PC probably with net, he has workout machines, normal chairs and shit. Lots of poor homeless people can only dream of a home like this.

http://www.motika.com.mk/index.php?option=com_content&id=34008

I'm not sure about the internet thing, but I don't think he has internet access. If he wants to write his autobiography or another "manifesto" that no one will publish, let him. If he can contact ideological fellows or maybe even other cells, which he claims exist but probably don't, that's a bigger problem. I don't see how workout machines or "normal chairs" is so enraging, though. What, should we lock him up in a medieval castle and chain him, or stick his head on a spike? Come on.

[#FF0000]

"gubgubgubgub i wish the bourgie state would kill people and lock them up for life law n order and all that gubgubgug"

[Ocean Seal]

"gubgubgubgub i wish the bourgie state would kill people and lock them up for life law n order and all that gubgubgug"
Brevik isn't your ordinary criminal.

[#FF0000]

yeah better treat him like an exceptional case that won't build a mystique around him or anything

[MaximMK]

What, should we lock him up in a medieval castle and chain him, or stick his head on a spike? Come on.

Yes. He killed 77 people. He attacked a youth camp he ruined 69 young lives. He killed young left wing multiculturalist followers. Can you imagine their fear. He was fucking playing and hunting them. They were innocent they just hanged out there. Think of all their families and parents that buried their children. He is evil and he has proven it. He needs to be punished for the monstrous acts he has done. They should make him feel sorry for what he has done and wish he never done it. The monster needs to suffer.

[Princess Luna]

Yes. He killed 77 people. He attacked a youth camp he ruined 69 young lives. He killed young left wing multiculturalist followers. Can you imagine their fear. He was fucking playing and hunting them. They were innocent they just hanged out there. Think of all their families and parents that buried their children. He is evil and he has proven it. He needs to be punished for the monstrous acts he has done. They should make him feel sorry for what he has done and wish he never done it. The monster needs to suffer.
Execution rarely makes people truly sorry for what they did, it just makes them regret they got caught. Being imprisoned however forces them to think about their actions everyday for years on end, which can lead to actual remorse.

[MaximMK]

His ideas will never change he may say he regrets the killings and he has changed but he will be just lying what he did cannot be pardoned. Killing an innocent good human being is not forgivable and he should never get out of jail.

[Princess Luna]

His ideas will never change he may say he regrets the killings and he has changed but he will be just lying what he did cannot be pardoned. Killing an innocent good human being is not forgivable and he should never get out of jail.
I am glad you can not only see into the future but also into people's minds as well.

[MaximMK]

So you would actually release a guy that has killed 69 children because of far right ideas walk freely.

[Princess Luna]

So you would actually release a guy that has killed 69 children because of far right ideas walk freely.
If he expresses remorse and his political views have changed, so that he no longer presents a threat to anybody, then i don't see a reason why he should be kept locked up.

[#FF0000]

His ideas will never change he may say he regrets the killings and he has changed but he will be just lying what he did cannot be pardoned. Killing an innocent good human being is not forgivable and he should never get out of jail.

1) He probably won't
2) Burn all prisons

[#FF0000]

The monster needs to suffer.

"It's monstrous when that person kills or harms people but not when I want to do it or when the state does it because our reasons are good gyugbusdbgubgubgubgubgubgugbu"

[X5N]

The monster needs to suffer.

Washing our hands in the blood and tears of our enemies accomplishes nothing except for making self-righteous idiots feel good about themselves.

[Buttress]

Sociopathy is not mental illness. Its just being evil

Personality disorders are a form of mental illness. I don't excuse what he did (i'm sure he had some agency over the murder of 77 people), but he does seem fairly unapologetic and lacking any sign of empathy.

[Princess Luna]

For anybody who is curious about the conditions he is going to be held under.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19354906

[Kenco Smooth]

Yes. He killed 77 people. He attacked a youth camp he ruined 69 young lives. He killed young left wing multiculturalist followers. Can you imagine their fear. He was fucking playing and hunting them. They were innocent they just hanged out there. Think of all their families and parents that buried their children. He is evil and he has proven it. He needs to be punished for the monstrous acts he has done. They should make him feel sorry for what he has done and wish he never done it. The monster needs to suffer.

What good will any of this do? Will it bring back his victims or lessen the pain of their families? no.

On the other hand would it put the power to openly and legitimately torture prisoners in the hands of the state? Yes it would. Now I don't think that's a good idea but maybe you can explain how it is.

[Yazman]

So you would actually release a guy that has killed 69 children because of far right ideas walk freely.

If he was remorseful and there wasn't a danger of him doing it again, then yes.

I personally do not feel that a person's humanity should ever be stripped away from them, no matter what they've done. The prison conditions in many countries are fucking disgusting and that Norway has a good prison system is a GOOD thing, not a bad thing. That prisoners in the US for example have their humanity almost completely stripped away from them and treated like subhumans because they've committed a crime is reprehensible.

All this emotional bullshit about "oh he's a monster" "oh, he needs to die" "oh, he needs to suffer" is all well and good but you're really damn hypocritical if your answer to human suffering caused is to perpetuate MORE human suffering.

An eye for an eye leaves the world blind.

[MaximMK]

1) He probably won't
2) Burn all prisons


Hell no! Than what do you do with a guy that kills 77 people and you dont have a place to imprison him? You just let him walk around? Your new prison less society wont last long trust me if you let murderers walk around freely. You keep criticizing the imprisonment of breivik cause its a state prison state imprisons him stat is bad. This man is a right wing extremist damn it i dont care who imprisons him i want him in.

[#FF0000]

Hell no! Than what do you do with a guy that kills 77 people and you dont have a place to imprison him? You just let him walk around? Your new prison less society wont last long trust me if you let murderers walk around freely. You keep criticizing the imprisonment of breivik cause its a state prison state imprisons him stat is bad. This man is a right wing extremist damn it i dont care who imprisons him i want him in.

So principled!

But yeah, nah, actually I'd like to see a system that removes virtually any reason for anybody to want to hurt someone else and a world where we can think of something better to do for someone who does that kind of thing than stuff them in a cage like that helps anyone or anything.

[Conscript]

"It's monstrous when that person kills or harms people but not when I want to do it or when the state does it because our reasons are good gyugbusdbgubgubgubgubgubgugbu"

Indeed they are, as good and bad is relative. That's the great thing about defending interests, you're not a moral fuckwit that has to be 'principled', but it's still 'good'. The guy's a fascist that isn't afraid of militancy, good enough to warrant his death.

But no, hooray moralism because it gives me thanks and is a nice emotional appeal.

[MaximMK]

Dangerous people like him cannot be trusted and must not be allowed to walk around unchecked he either stays imprisoned or better removed totally. The only good nazi is a dead nazi.

[khad]

If he was remorseful and there wasn't a danger of him doing it again, then yes.

I personally do not feel that a person's humanity should ever be stripped away from them, no matter what they've done. The prison conditions in many countries are fucking disgusting and that Norway has a good prison system is a GOOD thing, not a bad thing. That prisoners in the US for example have their humanity almost completely stripped away from them and treated like subhumans because they've committed a crime is reprehensible.

All this emotional bullshit about "oh he's a monster" "oh, he needs to die" "oh, he needs to suffer" is all well and good but you're really damn hypocritical if your answer to human suffering caused is to perpetuate MORE human suffering.

An eye for an eye leaves the world blind.
That's certainly the operative condition, a condition which I believe he fails to meet. Unfortunately, the guy has apologized for not having killed more.

[Rafiq]

Calling Brevik insane is precisely what the conservatives of Norway want.

[Robespierres Neck]

Despite how I feel about this verdict, I really hope he doesn't get sent to Halden.
[/URL][URL]http://www.rediff.com/news/slide-show/slide-show-1-inside-norway-luxurious-halden-jail/20110729.htm (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/may/18/halden-most-humane-prison-in-world)

[X5N]

For anybody who is curious about the conditions he is going to be held under.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19354906

No Internet? No computer games? Jeebus, send those prison officials to The Hague!

Seriously though...

I'm glad he's not being kept in total isolation. While I would agree with MaximMK when I'm in one of my "hurr hurr black bloc" moods, rationally I believe that people should be treated with as much humanity as possible, regardless of who they are or what they've done. Nazis are horrible, and what Breivik did was horrible, but that doesn't mean we should succumb to barbarity and be content with inflicting horrid suffering on another sapient being.

[Obs]

Who cares about that chubby asshole?

[#FF0000]

Indeed they are, as good and bad is relative. That's the great thing about defending interests, you're not a moral fuckwit that has to be 'principled', but it's still 'good'. The guy's a fascist that isn't afraid of militancy, good enough to warrant his death.

But no, hooray moralism because it gives me thanks and is a nice emotional appeal.

Yo it is definitely moralism to say "It is a dumb idea for communists to act as cheerleaders for the state when they want to execute a person".

But shit lets forget we are communists for a minute (shouldn't be a leap for all y'all who are acting big on the internet with this chest thumping law and order bullshit haha) and look at the fact that Brevik wanted and in fact demanded the death penalty. He wanted/wants to be a martyr. That is why people like him do these things in the first place. He didn't think he was going to cleanse Norway of the mulitcultural/cultural marxist devils he sees around every corner. People who use violence like this do it to create a spectacle and a mystique. Brevik did this and surrendered and wanted to be executed.

Instead they treated him like another 'common criminal' depriving him of his mythic image and martyrdom.

[Yugo45]

I'm okay with it being 21 years and all, but I do hope the prison he'll be staying in has only a communal shower!

[#FF0000]

rape is funny i guess

(unless your joke is about communal showers being extremely awkward in general)

[piet11111]

For breivik i support the death penalty not as some kind of "justice" but to permanently remove a threat to society.

Rehabilitation is a noble goal but when it comes as a risk to the well being of society i favor extreme prejudice and advocate the death penalty.

But for the sake of science i would support psychiatric evaluation in order to learn something from him.
After his continued existence has proven to be useful he should be executed.

I accept that many would disagree with me but who can really argue that Breivik hasn't made his choice ?

[Rugged Collectivist]

For breivik i support the death penalty not as some kind of "justice" but to permanently remove a threat to society.

Don't you think incarceration removes him from society?


Rehabilitation is a noble goal but when it comes as a risk to the well being of society i favor extreme prejudice and advocate the death penalty.

If he's too dangerous they can always extend his sentence.


But for the sake of science i would support psychiatric evaluation in order to learn something from him.
After his continued existence has proven to be useful he should be executed.

What exactly could be learned that would benefit society as a whole?



I accept that many would disagree with me but who can really argue that Breivik hasn't made his choice ?

I would argue that no one ever made a choice. I still haven't figured out all the implications of this though. I think the fact that he's in prison should be enough. Revenge is the only reason to kill him at this point. In all honesty I don't care what happens to him, but killing prisoners like this to appease bloodlust sets a bad precedent.


(unless your joke is about communal showers being extremely awkward in general)

I doubt it. Whenever someone tells a prison shower joke it pretty much always ends the same way.

[Lynx]

If it were up to me I'd kill him.

[Igor]

I'm okay with it being 21 years and all, but I do hope the prison he'll be staying in has only a communal shower!

Tell me more about how hilarious you think rape is!

[khad]

Don't you think incarceration removes him from society?
There's always a chance of escape or release.

Look at this other shining example of Norwegian "rehabilitation"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varg_Vikernes

In 1994, Vikernes was convicted of the murder of his Mayhem bandmate Øystein Aarseth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euronymous), known by his stage name Euronymous. Vikernes was further convicted of four counts of arson involving the burnings of historic churches, and was sentenced to 21 years in prison. Having served almost 16 years of his sentence, Vikernes was released on parole (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parole) in early 2009.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varg_Vikernes#cite_note-2)[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varg_Vikernes#cite_note-3)

In a 2010 interview with "Vampiria" Magazine Spain (18-03-2010) Vikernes was asked about Odinism playing a major role in his life, to which he responded:

"Well, I am not religious in any way, but I have a Pagan ideology and Pagan values. I believe in blood, soil and honour; family, homeland and hamingja (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamingja); strength, traditions and courage. And I believe in a Europe waking up."[49] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varg_Vikernes#cite_note-48)

Vikernes now embraces a "modern scientific worldview resting on a foundation made up of the Pagan values and ideals: loyalty, wisdom, courage, love, discipline, honesty, intelligence, beauty, responsibility, health and strength."[51] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varg_Vikernes#cite_note-bards8-50) He draws a direct connection between both race and intelligence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence) and intelligence and religion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_and_religion), denouncing theism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theism) as "mental enslavement" fit only for "inferior races".[51] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varg_Vikernes#cite_note-bards8-50)

Vikernes stated in an interview, "They [the Norwegian government at the beginning of World War II] ran like chickens, leaving Norway, with absolutely NO authorities, and when Vidkun Quisling tried to bring order back, he was thanked with a bullet in his heart after the war."[60] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varg_Vikernes#cite_note-60)
How much do you wanna bet ol' Vargie travels in the same circles as Breivik and his ilk?

[Igor]

Despite how I feel about this verdict, I really hope he doesn't get sent to Halden.
[/URL][URL]http://www.rediff.com/news/slide-show/slide-show-1-inside-norway-luxurious-halden-jail/20110729.htm (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/may/18/halden-most-humane-prison-in-world)

It really is quite telling how that's considered luxurious. Looks more like a normal student flat or something to me, but of course treating prisoners as human begins is already the ultimate luxury eh. :rolleyes:

[#FF0000]

y'all some dense motherfuckers for real

'it is literally a good idea to make this dude a martyr gugbugubgubgubgubgg'

[Mass Grave Aesthetics]

Letting Brevik live with what he did is a much harsher punishment than the state turning him into a martyr. I highly doubt he will have the same view towards his actions after 20- 30 years in prison. Also, it won´t be easy for him to get back into society after 20 years in prison and after what he did. So the fitting punishment I´d say is to let him live and release him from prison with a burden of guilt on top of being despised by his fellow citizens.

[Lynx]

Martyr for who? Even the Stormfronters want nothing to do with him.

[#FF0000]

again he probably won't even be released from prison, so.


Martyr for who? Even the Stormfronters want nothing to do with him.

Other people who'd use violence to fight these "cultural marxist" and "mulitcultural" bogeyman, for one?

[#FF0000]

I also think it's pretty incredible that people think "oh yeah if the state executes this dude it will just be this one time! an exception!" rather than realizing that it'd just open up the death penalty as an option for the state whenever.

Flat out dummies itt

[piet11111]

Don't you think incarceration removes him from society?

Yes but the possibility of escape is present and life long prison sentences are inhumane.
If you had life imprisonment you would have absolutely nothing to lose if you tried to escape even if it means killing the guards and the people unfortunate enough to cross your path after your out.
I would consider death preferable as a way to protect society.


What exactly could be learned that would benefit society as a whole?

I don't know but clearly he is different and that is something that could be studied.


I think the fact that he's in prison should be enough. Revenge is the only reason to kill him at this point. In all honesty I don't care what happens to him, but killing prisoners like this to appease bloodlust sets a bad precedent.

I consider him dangerous like a rabid dog he wont be rehabilitated because he doesn't want to.
Keeping him around is not going to be of any use to society instead that means they keep a threat alive while he could be easily disposed off.

[Rugged Collectivist]

Yes but the possibility of escape is present and life long prison sentences are inhumane.

I don't really see how the death penalty could be any more humane than life imprisonment.


If you had life imprisonment you would have absolutely nothing to lose if you tried to escape even if it means killing the guards and the people unfortunate enough to cross your path after your out.
I would consider death preferable as a way to protect society.

I assume he's in a maximum security prison. I don't think escape is a big concern.


I consider him dangerous like a rabid dog he wont be rehabilitated because he doesn't want to.
Keeping him around is not going to be of any use to society instead that means they keep a threat alive while he could be easily disposed off.

If he won't be rehabilitated, he should be held indefinitely. Like #FF0000 said, his execution would set a bad precedent. If they get away with killing this guy, they'll be able to kill others. Even if he is a threat incarcerated (which I seriously doubt) killing him still isn't worth it.

[Yazman]

Yes but the possibility of escape is present and life long prison sentences are inhumane.
If you had life imprisonment you would have absolutely nothing to lose if you tried to escape even if it means killing the guards and the people unfortunate enough to cross your path after your out.
I would consider death preferable as a way to protect society.



I don't know but clearly he is different and that is something that could be studied.



I consider him dangerous like a rabid dog he wont be rehabilitated because he doesn't want to.
Keeping him around is not going to be of any use to society instead that means they keep a threat alive while he could be easily disposed off.

I love how you talk about "inhumane" and then later on go on to say you consider him to be like a dog, and then further reinforce your lack of concern for what is humane by simply referring to him as a "threat to be disposed of".

IF you think humans should be treated with dignity, you can't go around calling them subhuman or characterising them as merely "things to be disposed of" when they do something that doesn't jive with society's expectations.

[Geiseric]

The cost going to keep him alive could go to starving kids somewhere, that is the only reason I would support offing him. He's not insane, he's just a fucking Nazi sociopath. He's never going to be safe to have roaming around free, which is different than most people on death row, for psychiatric reasons. On those grounds I would support a low cost way of keeping him alive, i.e. a work camp. However keeping him alive in a max secutiry institution (which isn't really necessary. All you need is a door, lock, and some food honestly) means profits for the prison owning capitalists.

Put him at work in constructing something for an immigrant community in Norway, or something that will shame him and the rest of the Nazi fucks that are surging worldwide as of lately. Petit Bourgeois Nazi trash are different cases than most murderers, who are either mentally unstable or too poor to avoid crime.