...but where to? [Archive]

RedHammer

23rd August 2012, 20:17

I would seriously like to get da fuck out of Greece. I try it 2 years now, with top priority a coast on the land of the free, home of the brave but somehow someway it always kinda gets canceled. Where the fuck should I go?

Seriously? Consider yourself lucky that you live in such a beautiful country.

America is a shithole full of ghettoes and no sense of community or national identity at all. And, you should stay in Greece and fight the good fight. Greece is becoming an important battleground in the struggle against fascism and capitalism.

Lynx

23rd August 2012, 20:20

Sardinia? I rarely hear anything about the island of Sardinia, maybe life there is idyllic.

RedHammer

23rd August 2012, 20:23

Cyprus? Turkey? Bosnia? Armenia?

Move somewhere cheap!

I've fantasized about moving to the Mediterranean before, to some obscure but close-knit and slower-paced place like Tunisia.

Igor

23rd August 2012, 20:33

Seriously? Consider yourself lucky that you live in such a beautiful country.

America is a shithole full of ghettoes and no sense of community or national identity at all. And, you should stay in Greece and fight the good fight. Greece is becoming an important battleground in the struggle against fascism and capitalism.

America is one of the largest countries in the world with one of the largest populations in the world, overall good standard of life and lots of regional variation. It's a lot easier to find awesome things and opportunities from there than Greece which is pretty small and isn't exactly doing great atm. I'd really prefer life there over life in Greece, your idea of the country doesn't really seem to have much in common with the reality in Greece.

not to mention that I really understand the need to just, fuck off from your current surroundings. The idea of living in one country for one's entire life seems incredibly dull to me and that's why I'm fucking off from Finland too, even though I don't really have anything against the country.

Art Vandelay

24th August 2012, 00:44

Interestingly I have thought about picking shit up and moving to Greece, although it's not actually going to happen. Greece is where the action is man, get organizing.

Luc

24th August 2012, 02:56

I would seriously like to get da fuck out of Greece. I try it 2 years now, with top priority a coast on the land of the free, home of the brave but somehow someway it always kinda gets canceled. Where the fuck should I go?

forget USA it is a shit hole come to Canada our immigration policies arent as shit as America, we have higher employment and our trade mark free healthcare and education

our conservatives are more tame as well (though they are trying to americanize Canada and are succeding of late :()

PC LOAD LETTER

24th August 2012, 02:59

forget USA it is a shit hole come to Canada our immigration policies arent as shit as America, we have higher employment and our trade mark free healthcare and education

our conservatives are more tame as well
The only reason Canada is nice is because you export (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Bieber) all your shit heads (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickelback) so we have to deal with them down here.

Luc

24th August 2012, 03:01

The only reason Canada is nice is because you export (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Bieber) all your shit heads (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickelback) so we have to deal with them down here.

see Delenda Carthago? we also know how to deal with celebrities, ship 'em off to other countries!

also

our street weed is cheaper or so i hear:D

PC LOAD LETTER

24th August 2012, 03:02

see? we know how to deal with celebrities, ship 'em off to other countries!

also

our street weed is cheaper :D
I pay $275/oz :D

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But most people I meet pay $350-400/oz. I couldn't count the number of times this conversation has happened:

Them: Man I got a connect on some fire
Me: How much?
Them: $20 a g
Me: ...

Luc

24th August 2012, 03:05

I pay $275/oz :D

we also dont have stupid ways of measuring things^

its called metric!

Luc

24th August 2012, 03:07

I pay $275/oz :D

[edit]
But most people I meet pay $350-400/oz. I couldn't count the number of times this conversation has happened:

Them: Man I got a connect on some fire
Me: How much?
Them: $20 a g
Me: ...

well you've caught me. i gotta admit im not into the whole drugs thing :blushing: so u will have to ask Christy Clark for a rebuttle :p

Luc

24th August 2012, 03:22

edit: actually nevermind.... after discussing with those top men, its 20$/4g...

cynicles

24th August 2012, 03:43

Yeah just move to BC, it's expensive as shit but there's premium weed and the best meth this side of the world. Mushrooms grow on the sidewalks and the rivers run thick with ale.

ВАЛТЕР

24th August 2012, 07:39

Bosnia?.

:laugh:

Yeah, this is shitty advice. There's no work in any of the Former Yugoslav republics. Except maybe in Slovenia. You guys speak of a crisis, people here have been living in crisis conditions since the early 90s.

Vladimir Innit Lenin

24th August 2012, 23:12

Barcelona.

Delenda Carthago

25th August 2012, 00:26

Gotta say, Ben got me thinkin...:o

Ele'ill

25th August 2012, 00:38

Portland, OR

Ostrinski

25th August 2012, 05:34

Madrid > Barcelona

Os Cangaceiros

25th August 2012, 06:34

British Columbia is a pretty cool place. Supposedly BC has the highest concentration of organized crime syndicates of any place on earth (although in this case, "organized crime syndicates" refers to nice ol' canucks who grow weed and then smuggle it across the border for Amurikan consumption).

Luc

25th August 2012, 08:05

Gotta say, Ben got me thinkin...:o

haha i knew i would ;)

quick disclaimer, im not responsible for anything that happens to you cause u know its still capitalist (for now) :D

Delenda Carthago

26th August 2012, 11:45

haha i knew i would ;)

quick disclaimer, im not responsible for anything that happens to you cause u know its still capitalist (for now) :D
Of course it is, everywhere it is. I just want to find a place that I can get a job, where the grass is green and the girls are pretty.

Because now I live in a place where I cant get a job for over a year, the concrete is grey and the girls... well, the girls are aight I guess, I dont complaint on that one.

http://s.enet.gr/resources/2010-10/9301518-thumb-large.jpg

see this? You like it? Would you live here? We are schizo metropolitan cockroaches.

Luc

26th August 2012, 11:50

Of course it is, everywhere it is. I just want to find a place that I can get a job, where the grass is green and the girls are pretty.

Because now I live in a place where I cant get a job for over a year, the concrete is grey and the girls... well, the girls are aight I guess, I dont complaint on that one.

http://s.enet.gr/resources/2010-10/9301518-thumb-large.jpg

see this? You like it? Would you live here? We are schizo metropolitan cockroaches.

nice G'n'R ref :cool: well in the east the grass is green, the west its p gold and in the far west the grass is greeeeeeeeen :D Canadians are beutiful all around :thumbup1:

welcome to Canada!

ah actually i love grey:D but that looks terrible. I couldnt stand the weather in Greece especially with the added heat from the riot fires :scared:

oh ya and the economic crisis, naturally :scared:

oh ya we dont have fascists too :) well except for Calgary...

Lynx

26th August 2012, 13:14

There are places in Canada where you can find a job and still be homeless because rent is too expensive. We also have a season called winter. Similar temps as in Greece, only with minus signs in front of them.

Vladimir Innit Lenin

26th August 2012, 20:17

Madrid > Barcelona

Really? Madrid seemed to me to be just a concrete jungle.

Barcelona was beautiful and bustling with cool people. And Barca fans that used their La Liga championship win to let off steam at the pigs. That was fun. :)

Ostrinski

26th August 2012, 23:41

Really? Madrid seemed to me to be just a concrete jungle.

Barcelona was beautiful and bustling with cool people. And Barca fans that used their La Liga championship win to let off steam at the pigs. That was fun. :)barcelona was too crowded for me. People there didnt really strike me as my type of folk either. Architecture is neat though, and the Med is beautiful.

But Madrid or San Sebastian is more my type of environment. Calmer.

The Douche

27th August 2012, 00:08

Come live in semi-rural Maryland with me, warm summers, mild winters, plenty of jobs, low cost of living. Only 2 hours from Washington dc or Baltimore, 3 hours from Philadelphia, and 5 from NYC.

Delenda Carthago

27th August 2012, 00:37

The Douche

27th August 2012, 01:44

My friend Google tells me that your state is a beautiful one...

Yeah, I like it, I live near the beach.

L.A.P.

27th August 2012, 03:25

our street weed is cheaper or so i hear:D

Canadian weed, I think, is better than Northern California weed. My cousin got some weed from Vancouver and I remember it was one of my most memorable highs. I realize now you live in Ontario though, that's actually pretty close to my family hometown in New York. The weed in that area is bomb too.

Vladimir Innit Lenin

27th August 2012, 21:31

barcelona was too crowded for me. People there didnt really strike me as my type of folk either. Architecture is neat though, and the Med is beautiful.

But Madrid or San Sebastian is more my type of environment. Calmer.

I'd love to go to San Sebastian, looks so beautiful and apparently the pintxos and food generally there are the best spanish food around.

To the OP: Costa Rica is pretty fuckin' awesome too, holds 5% of the worlds biodiversity, 25% of the country is just lush, un-blemished nature. So beautiful.

Delenda Carthago

28th August 2012, 22:30

The problem is not to simply choose a place to move, but to be cheap enough to survive till you settle down!:lol:

Ostrinski

28th August 2012, 23:24

I'd love to go to San Sebastian, looks so beautiful and apparently the pintxos and food generally there are the best spanish food around.

To the OP: Costa Rica is pretty fuckin' awesome too, holds 5% of the worlds biodiversity, 25% of the country is just lush, un-blemished nature. So beautiful.Theres endless pintxos places there and theyre all good as hell. Barcelona has good tapas too though, many people dont know that.

Arlekino

28th August 2012, 23:32

Why should we wish to leave own country oh yeah I did as well, always nostalgic from past and to be honest I regret. I would prefer to move to Venezuala sounds good.:)

Delenda Carthago

31st August 2012, 03:43

Toronto has a KKE core.:blushing:

cynicles

1st September 2012, 20:26

edit: actually nevermind.... after discussing with those top men, its 20$/4g...
Where are you finding Weed that cheap? It's gotta be absolute shit, anything less the 10$/g is below average. Good for baking though.

Luc

1st September 2012, 21:02

Where are you finding Weed that cheap? It's gotta be absolute shit, anything less the 10$/g is below average. Good for baking though.

i dunno guy who told me is in Toronto so i guess there :unsure:

Ravachol

2nd September 2012, 00:51

This seems to be a trend, I've seen a huge influx of Greeks in the past 2 years over here in the Netherlands. But I wouldn't come here though. The weather is shit, the entire country (at least, the core) is a depressing mix of concrete, steel and glass and the countryside is endless muddy flatlands with the occasional cow thrown in. Also, the Netherlands is probably one of the most pacified and petit-bourgeois countries you'll encounter. Besides, it's not that easy to get a job (depending on your education) and I've seen many people who came here only a few years ago leave again.

If you did choose to go here I'd choose a small village or town in the south or east of the country where there's some forests and the (minor) cities aren't far off. But I'd choose Germany or the UK personally.

ed miliband

2nd September 2012, 01:02

Trap Queen Voxxy

2nd September 2012, 01:37

I would seriously like to get da fuck out of Greece. I try it 2 years now, with top priority a coast on the land of the free, home of the brave but somehow someway it always kinda gets canceled. Where the fuck should I go?

I say this from experience. Scratch Russia and the US off your list, for sure. But really, virtually everywhere I've been is a shithole.

The only place I want to move to is Tahiti.

maskerade

3rd September 2012, 16:19

Come live in semi-rural Maryland with me, warm summers, mild winters, plenty of jobs, low cost of living. Only 2 hours from Washington dc or Baltimore, 3 hours from Philadelphia, and 5 from NYC.

tell me more please? are there really lots of jobs? i'm getting tired of these 'apprenticeship' offers that don't pay anything and usually lead to continued unemployment once the slaving is done.

Vladimir Innit Lenin

4th September 2012, 23:43

seems like a higher number of british people are moving over to the netherlands, a girl i went out with did and she said she's met loads of british people over there. seems the number will increase due to higher tuition rates in britain, also.

was very tempted to do this. If I wasn't following a career path that already requires a mandatory extra year anyway, I'd definitely have saved up for a year to do a Masters in the Netherlands.

Think Denmark is pretty big for this as well, cheap Masters degrees. It's impossible to get funding in the UK, like 4 grand plus for a masters'. Fuck that :(

Ravachol

8th September 2012, 00:59

was very tempted to do this. If I wasn't following a career path that already requires a mandatory extra year anyway, I'd definitely have saved up for a year to do a Masters in the Netherlands.

Don't. The recently introduced 'langstudeerboete' (a fine of about 3000 euros for each year of study you do which exceeds the set norm) combined with the increased regular tuition fees, bad student housing in the big cities as well as tightened regulations around full class attendance make studying here a really unpleasant and stressful affair. I guess all in all its still cheaper than the UK but its far from the land of milk and honey :p

Delenda Carthago

9th September 2012, 02:39

I am thinking of selling my soul, in order to get some money to move to New York, but I dont think anyone would be interested.:unsure:

Ostrinski

9th September 2012, 03:12

In what a poor state are our Greek friends in so that they should be forced to sell their souls.

Delenda Carthago

9th September 2012, 10:01

In what a poor state are our Greek friends in so that they should be forced to sell their souls.

Nah, dont worry. We are communists, we dont believe in "soul". Its a good trade!

Vladimir Innit Lenin

9th September 2012, 10:26

Don't. The recently introduced 'langstudeerboete' (a fine of about 3000 euros for each year of study you do which exceeds the set norm) combined with the increased regular tuition fees, bad student housing in the big cities as well as tightened regulations around full class attendance make studying here a really unpleasant and stressful affair. I guess all in all its still cheaper than the UK but its far from the land of milk and honey :p

ah, thanks for the heads up. There was a heavy pro-dutch propaganda ad campaign here from a couple of years ago, did indeed make it sound like the Masters' land of milk and academic honey!

The Douche

9th September 2012, 15:37

tell me more please? are there really lots of jobs? i'm getting tired of these 'apprenticeship' offers that don't pay anything and usually lead to continued unemployment once the slaving is done.

There is a sizeable manufacturing plant in town, they constantly hire, new employees usually start at minimum wage, but there is lots of overtime available, and you get good healthcare and a week's paid vacation, they have higher paying positions, but I dunno how hard it is to land those. The chicken industry is also huge here, there are two major chicken companies in the area (mountaire and perdue) who have plants, and they are also constantly hiring. I don't know as much about the conditions there, but I think its easier to get a high paying spot with them, but the work is much shittier. (I mean, its a death factory for chickens, so, yeah)

Average 1-2 bedroom apartments are around 600-700 a month, you can find 1 bedrooms for about 500 a month pretty easily if you look. Gas is around $3.70 a gallon, and you can get a beer at the bar for $2.

There isn't much to do in the way of culture (no museums, no galleries, no skatepark etc), but there is a community college, and a university, as well as a mall. We're about 25 minutes from the beach, which has a huge population during the summer (and gets cooler things, like art shows and stuff).

Delenda Carthago

10th September 2012, 12:04

There is a sizeable manufacturing plant in town, they constantly hire, new employees usually start at minimum wage, but there is lots of overtime available, and you get good healthcare and a week's paid vacation, they have higher paying positions, but I dunno how hard it is to land those. The chicken industry is also huge here, there are two major chicken companies in the area (mountaire and perdue) who have plants, and they are also constantly hiring. I don't know as much about the conditions there, but I think its easier to get a high paying spot with them, but the work is much shittier. (I mean, its a death factory for chickens, so, yeah)

Average 1-2 bedroom apartments are around 600-700 a month, you can find 1 bedrooms for about 500 a month pretty easily if you look. Gas is around $3.70 a gallon, and you can get a beer at the bar for $2.

There isn't much to do in the way of culture (no museums, no galleries, no skatepark etc), but there is a community college, and a university, as well as a mall. We're about 25 minutes from the beach, which has a huge population during the summer (and gets cooler things, like art shows and stuff).
Can a poor greek get a green card please?:drool:

Lenina Rosenweg

10th September 2012, 12:16

Can a poor greek get a green card please?:drool:

Could you get a student visa-maybe enroll in an ESL class (not that you need one of course). I have met Greek people in NYC who are doing that, then they try to get a job with an ESL school.

I don't know about the area the Douche mentioned, but the US economy is pretty shitty at present.

Delenda Carthago

10th September 2012, 14:38

Could you get a student visa-maybe enroll in an ESL class (not that you need one of course). I have met Greek people in NYC who are doing that, then they try to get a job with an ESL school.

I don't know about the area the Douche mentioned, but the US economy is pretty shitty at present.
How much would it cost? Cause I emphasise on the "poor".

A Revolutionary Tool

11th September 2012, 03:22

edit: actually nevermind.... after discussing with those top men, its 20$/4g...
:ohmy:
How good is it?

Lenina Rosenweg

11th September 2012, 04:50

How much would it cost? Cause I emphasise on the "poor".

It varies, usually a few thousand$ per semester.Bluedata in NYC cost about $1000 a semester.

http://www.englishschoolnyc.com/offer/432239/esl-classes-only-%24990-for-1-semester.html

I've known people who "study" at EF International in Boston for years, just to keep their student visa current.
http://www.ef.com/us-home/

I think they're a bit pricey though.

Bunker Hill Community College near Boston is cheap for regular classes, around 1000 USD for int'l students, I believe.They may require you to take the TOEFL test but that shouldn't be a problem.

http://www.bhcc.mass.edu/inside/1015

With a student visa I believe you're allowed to work 20 hours a week.

Delenda Carthago

11th September 2012, 07:19

It varies, usually a few thousand$ per semester.Bluedata in NYC cost about $1000 a semester.

http://www.englishschoolnyc.com/offer/432239/esl-classes-only-%24990-for-1-semester.html

I've known people who "study" at EF International in Boston for years, just to keep their student visa current.
http://www.ef.com/us-home/

I think they're a bit pricey though.

Bunker Hill Community College near Boston is cheap for regular classes, around 1000 USD for int'l students, I believe.They may require you to take the TOEFL test but that shouldn't be a problem.

http://www.bhcc.mass.edu/inside/1015

With a student visa I believe you're allowed to work 20 hours a week.

You have no idea how much this helps!! Thanks!

Luc

11th September 2012, 15:35

:ohmy:
How good is it?

i have no idea i'm not an enthusiast. :lol:

MarxSchmarx

18th September 2012, 06:12

I can't believe no one's suggested Cuba yet.

What is wrong with you people?

Rugged Collectivist

19th September 2012, 19:40