The Muslim Brotherhood's War on Postal Workers

[khad]

God is Greatest!
Gettin' em done Al-Qaeda style

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-08-14/outrage-as-grisly-syria-video-shows-bodies-thrown-from-roof/4196550


Uproar as footage shows Syrian rebel atrocities

http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/4196552-3x2-340x227.jpg

Horrific videos purportedly showing Syrian rebels throwing the bodies of postal workers off a roof and a man's throat being savagely cut triggered outrage among rights activists on Monday.

Three videos all showing the apparent atrocities in the province of Aleppo, including a bound man being repeatedly shot, were posted on YouTube on Monday but their authenticity could not immediately be verified.

Both sides in the 17-month conflict have been accused of human rights violations as reports of cold-blooded killings mount.

"What is the difference between them and a wild animal in the jungle? At least a wild animal does not kill unless it is hungry," said Massoud Akko, a Kurdish activist and co-founder of the Association of Syrian Journalists.

In one grisly scene, a crowd of people shouting "Allahu Akbar" - God is great - gathered around several bodies crumpled on the ground outside a building before another three victims are hurled one-by-one from the rooftop.

The incident was said to have taken place in rebel-controlled Al-Bab near the northern metropolis of Aleppo and the victims were identified as postal workers, but it was not clear when the killings occurred.

"These are the heroes of Al-Bab city who are inside the post office," the man shooting the video said. When the body of one man was thrown to the ground, the crowd is heard shouting: "This is a shabiha," referring to the pro-government militia.

In another shocking amateur video, a blindfolded man, with his hands tied behind his back, struggled as a group of men forced him to lie down on a pavement in Aleppo.

The man calls out: "I would rather die by a bullet." A man retorts: "Shut up."

As the group chanted "Allahu Akbar," the assailant forced what appeared to be a small knife repeatedly across his throat as his blood spurted onto the pavement.

[islandmilitia]

Having read through the article and used the search function on my browser, I cannot find a single mention of the Muslim Brotherhood, or, for that matter, the individual terms "Muslim" and "Brotherhood". So I would ask that you clarify why you decided to describe this article as a "war" conducted by the Muslim Brotherhood on postal workers.

[khad]

Having read through the article and used the search function on my browser, I cannot find a single mention of the Muslim Brotherhood, or, for that matter, the individual terms "Muslim" and "Brotherhood". So I would ask that you clarify why you decided to describe this article as a "war" conducted by the Muslim Brotherhood on postal workers.
Who else screams "God is Great" so obsessively?

Put 2 and 2 together, bub.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

This week's installment of "people in brutal conditions acting brutally to one another" number 4327, right?

[khad]

This week's installment of "people in brutal conditions acting brutally to one another" number 4327, right?
Whatever floats your bill, buddy. Call it whatever you want. :)

[islandmilitia]

Who else screams "God is Great" so obsessively?

Put 2 and 2 together, bub.

Actually, allahu akbar is said in a whole range of different contexts, some of them entirely non-political, like during prayer. Even in a political or more violent context, there are obviously individual and members of organizations other than the Muslim Brotherhood who would shout that phrase, including people who are not members of any kind of organized Islamist group, such as during the 2009 protests in Iran, and, in my experience, on Palestine demonstrations in Western countries. Do you think that shouting allahu akbar is a necessary sign of being a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, a highly specific organization that doesn't even operate across the whole of the Middle East?

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Who else screams "God is Great" so obsessively?

Put 2 and 2 together, bub.

The Muslim Brotherhood don't exactly have a monopoly over the phrase. It's generic enough that one only has to be a devout Muslim to use the phrase seriously.

Kinda like "Hallelujah", I guess.

[khad]

Actually, allahu akbar is said in a whole range of different contexts, some of them entirely non-political, like during prayer. Even in a political or more violent context, there are obviously individual and members of organizations other than the Muslim Brotherhood who would shout that phrase, including people who are not members of any kind of organized Islamist group, such as during the 2009 protests in Iran, and, in my experience, on Palestine demonstrations in Western countries. Do you think that shouting allahu akbar is a necessary sign of being a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, a highly specific organization that doesn't even operate across the whole of the Middle East?
They're most organized and powerful oppositionist force in Syria and have been throughout the 20th century. Call it an educated guess.

After all, I don't suppose the more secular elements of the FSA would be behind this. Obviously I took care to avoid labeling the whole rebel movement.

[Sasha]

how about the jihadists that Assad welcomed in the country to destablelise iraq and that now turned against him?

but hey, its clear again how easily the anti-imps orientalism slides seamingless in good old fasioned racism when the darkies go from noble to savage in the anti-imp discour...

[khad]

how about the jihadists that Assad welcomed in the country to destablelise iraq and that now turned against him?

but hey, its clear again how easily the anti-imps orientalism slides seamingless in good old fasioned racism when the darkies go from noble to savage in the anti-imp discour...

Well, hey, who's being a hysterical fucknut? You should be happy that I took pains to avoid painting the entire FSA with a broad brush. :lol:

I just don't get where leftists get this sympathy for organizations like the MB since they, you know, were more or less founded and helped along by the British to annihilate leftist activists in the 1940s.

After all, I don't suppose the more secular elements of the FSA would be behind this. Obviously I took care to avoid labeling the whole rebel movement.

[Sasha]

no love for the MB, but it does us no favors to muddle the waters like this.
looking at egypt and gaza (the places where they are curently in power, and for the sake of argument i include hamas in the MB even when they are technically only aligned with them) as examples its pretty clear what the MB in most countries now stands for, moderate islamic (in context to most other political islamic groups) rightwing conservative capitalism.
to pretend that the MB will open the gates for saoedi or even taliban style sharia law and religious persecution is completely void of any realistic analysis.
all signs show they strive for the turkey model, conservatism & capitalism inside an rigged liberal "democracy" with a fineer of islamism to keep them in power and the peope subserviant.
and that, their capitalism and their reactionary viewpoint is what we should aim our arrows on, fighting against reactionism and capitalism is our fight and maybe it doesnt really exist yet but i can immagine "liberation-islamism" could become as much an ally to us as liberation theology was in latin america.
leave the islamophobic hysteria and the racism for the rightwing, we have nothing to win there.

[campesino]

no love for the MB, but it does us no favors to muddle the waters like this.
looking at egypt and gaza (the places where they are curently in power, and for the sake of argument i include hamas in the MB even when they are technically only aligned with them) as examples its pretty clear what the MB in most countries now stands for, moderate islamic (in context to most other political islamic groups) rightwing conservative capitalism.
to pretend that the MB will open the gates for saoedi or even taliban style sharia law and religious persecution is completely void of any realistic analysis.
all signs show they strive for the turkey model, conservatism & capitalism inside an rigged liberal "democracy" with a fineer of islamism to keep them in power and the peope subserviant.
and that, their capitalism and their reactionary viewpoint is what we should aim our arrows on, fighting against reactionism and capitalism is our fight and maybe it doesnt really exist yet but i can immagine "liberation-islamism" could become as much an ally to us as liberation theology was in latin america.
leave the islamophobic hysteria and the racism for the rightwing, we have nothing to win there.

it is funny, how this is a response to a postal worker being thrown out a window by the Syrian FSA/MB.

[Ismail]

i can immagine "liberation-islamism" could become as much an ally to us as liberation theology was in latin america.Liberation Theology (Camilo Torres, sections of the FSLN, etc.) grew up under conditions and on a basis not really comparable anywhere else. Catholicism and Islam also treat politics rather differently.

The closest thing you get to "liberation-islamism" is Sayyid Qutb, who of course was a MB member.

It's also a bit weird for anarchists to be praising liberation theology (not to mention Islamism) anyway.

[Sasha]

it is funny, how this is a response to a postal worker being thrown out a window by the Syrian FSA/MB.


proof?
and even if it was done by MB or FSA (which are not in any way nescecarly the same, even khad admits that) members or sympathysers how is that in anyway examplary for the MB's pollitics instead of the fucked up way how assad plunged his country in sectarian civilwar? yes they scream "alah akhbar" but you cant take a shit in most of the arab world without someone shouting alah akhbar, if you think thats an bloodcurling batlecry only al-qaida uses when they slaughter people you really need to turn of FOX news already, what they say here
When the body of one man was thrown to the ground, the crowd is heard shouting: "This is a shabiha," referring to the pro-government militia. is far more relevant i think, i guess you are not familiar with the term shabiha but that refers too the sectarian death-squad millitia's employed by the assad regime. so i assume this attack was (supposed to be) an (retalitory) assault on shabiha members. it may have been very well been a case of mistaken identity or even idiots equaling all government loyal workers with shabiha, we dont know. but glaring from this video and reports there is ast least as much proof these where shabiha thugs meeting populair justice as MB supporters massacering innocent postal workers...

[Sasha]

Liberation Theology (Camilo Torres, sections of the FSLN, etc.) grew up under conditions and on a basis not really comparable anywhere else. Catholicism and Islam also treat politics rather differently.

The closest thing you get to "liberation-islamism" is Sayyid Qutb, who of course was a MB member.



what about for example the alevi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alevi) and other sufi inluenced groups? i'm not saying they are in anyway close to liberation theology (they are more similair to reform-judaism and quackers i guess) but they are absolutly a dominantly progressive comunity.
if we want to win over the islamic proletariat we should not attack their god but those that claim to represent him/her and abuse religion to keep the people down..


It's also a bit weird for anarchists to be praising liberation theology (not to mention Islamism) anyway.first of all i'm not nescecarly an anarchist, secondly i would go so far as use the word "praise", i understand and respect the cultural believes and traditions of others and i'm willing to accomedate them as long as they dont infringe on my believes.
and there are several political groups with an stand towards personal religion that i admire and respect, the EZLN being the obvious one but also for example "la rage the peuple" (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Rage_Du_Peuple) has devote muslim followers (like keny arkana herself) that are at the same time revolutionary comrades and there is ofcourse a long history of black US radicals with either islamic or african believes.

[IrishWorker]

Support the Syrian Communist Party (United). The armed Islamic Fundamentalists should be wiped out before Syria becomes another Imperialist puppet state like Libya.

A Declaration of war on Syria

The feverish appeals for foreign intervention against Syria, though not new, differ in kind, according to the nature of the stage of the struggle against the armed groups and the world imperialist powers that support them for purpose of bringing down the Syrian state which is considered as the obstinate obstacle blocking he road for their plans to impose their hegemony on the Middle East both as position and a fortune.

The attempts to condemn Syria in the U.N Security Council failed, thanks to our Russia and Chinese friends and others, so did the efforts to pave the way as well as the preparations for launching a military attack against Syria by NATO, similar to the attacks that destroyed Yugoslavia, Iraq or Libya. The preprated plans were brought to a stop not because moral or humanitarian on incentives on the part of the aggressors, but because they received the messages very clearly that the cost of any attack against Syria will be unaffordable by the west in general, and by Turkey, the Gulf emirates and Israel in particular.

For year, these attempts have been continuously, fiercely and relentlessly going on accompanied by enlarging the circle of criminal actions, providing criminal and terrorist groups secretly with unbelievably big amounts of money, weaponry and mobilizing mercenaries within Syria and abroad.

All their attempts have failed. The perpetrators have so far not succeeded in achieving their targets. They have only been able to hurt the Syrian citizens, their medicaments, food and fuel supplies, besides causing a great amount of chaos that moves from an area to another across the country. Consequently it was necessary for them to resort to a new method which spares these powers the risks of direct military intervention through the dependence on local devices, which they believe, might be able to accomplish the very same mission.

The so-called Friends of Syria Conference held in Tunisia on February 17th, 2012, is another stopping point of conspiracies against Syria. Voices called loudly to arm the free army, behind the scenes, the security department and agencies in the coalition countries held meetings to formulate the necessary executive plans, and have this new conspiratorial method put into practice, particularly after the oil Gulf states and their likes decided to put all the money required at the disposal of this 'army' which is in fact neither an army nor free, specially after splits in its rank and file which grew larger and larger after the announcement of the new plan for the purpose of dividing the allotted funds, although this supposed army and the armed terrorist groups related to it have never ceased receiving financial aid, weaponry and personnel from the states of this devilish coalition.

What an international legitimacy is it that justifies provocation against the safety and territorial integrity of other states, that boasts of providing the opposition in these states with weaponry and equipment, that urge them to kill people, plunder private as well as public properties, murder assassinate, kidnap, loot, block highways and rebel against the state and its laws?

Your highness, princes calling for this "excellent idea"!

Put an end to your evils against Syria. You can no longer avail your selves of them. These methods were known long ago, before fifty years, when Turkey built up its forces along the Syrian borders and when U.S.A fabricated conspiracies against Syria. All the last year, they have been being put into practice, though in vain, stop shedding Syrian blood and violating the sovereignty of Syria.

You, would be fighter in a would be army, you should bear in mind that you are not more than a fuel and wood to be used to set on fires to serve an end with which you have no connection. Those of you who have grievances should try to solve them through political action. You learn well that those who provoke you, whether they be Arabs or foreigners, are not working for the freedom and democracy of the Syrian people.

They are in fact interested in ushering Syria in a state of civil and ethnic strife, and have it divided to serve the needs and demands of Israel primarily and the imperialist states which support it .

We, in Syria, unanimously believe that it is necessary to carry out political, economic and social reforms and deal with percussions of security irregularities that took place. We also whole heartedly believe in opening a new page in the history of Syria... a page based on an all-embracing national reconciliation, to work for a comprehensive civil peace with all the shades of the political spectrum, to reject the mentality of vengeance and revenge ... the road toward that being dialogue with all groups and gatherings, regardless of their being either in the opposition or not.

The purpose of our endeavor is to reach a solution the crisis in our country. Still, while we toil to achieve reform and renewal, we are ready to stand against any aggression against our country and the freedom of our people.

The new constitution has opened a new and hopeful window of opportunities for all the Syrian people to implement their democratic liberties, to participate hand in hand in helping, Syria move into the realm of a pluralistic democratic society capable of absorbing everyone, without weaponry and without any kind of foreign intervention.

Together we should avail ourselves of this rare and historical opportunity and join efforts to implement the articles of the constitution in letter and spirit. All Syrian citizens have interest in this endeavor.

Damascus: 6/3/2012
Syrian communist party (unified)

[Sir Comradical]

Of course it's the Muslim Brotherhood or some other degenerate islamist group. They're all the same. A bunch of anti-worker anti-woman animals who belong in a mass grave.

Victory to the Syrian Army!

[IrishWorker]

Of course it's the Muslim Brotherhood or some other degenerate islamist group. They're all the same. A bunch of anti-worker anti-woman animals who belong in a mass grave.

Victory to the Syrian Army!

It didn't take them long to eradicate any semblance of secular society in Libya and Egypt is fast becoming the same. The only people who should be supported in revolutionary situations like the Arab spring are groups with a solid class analysis, if none exist then its an Imperialist plot that should be opposed.

[RedHammer]

The "rebels" in Syria are cowardly CIA-backed thugs.

I don't like taking either side, but I'd rather have a secular Syria, and regarding this particular conflict, I hope Assad puts them down.

Theocracy is good for nobody.

[IrishWorker]

Liberation Theology (Camilo Torres, sections of the FSLN, etc.) grew up under conditions and on a basis not really comparable anywhere else. Catholicism and Islam also treat politics rather differently.

The closest thing you get to "liberation-islamism" is Sayyid Qutb, who of course was a MB member.

It's also a bit weird for anarchists to be praising liberation theology (not to mention Islamism) anyway.

Liberation theology is no friend of Communism, it may play a small role in raising the class consciousness of oppressed superstitious peasants in Latin American, it goes hand in hand with Catholic Distributism, the economic policy of fascist groups like the BNP.

[Prometeo liberado]

It didn't take them long to eradicate any semblance of secular society in Libya and Egypt is fast becoming the same. The only people who should be supported in revolutionary situations like the Arab spring are groups with a solid class analysis, if none exist then its an Imperialist plot that should be opposed.

I agree. First as Tragedy,Second as Farce.

[Positivist]

Who else screams "God is Great" so obsessively?

Put 2 and 2 together, bub.

Every Islamic extremist ever.

[freepalestine]

Syrian Worker attacked by fsaJihadists,Aleppo lastweek
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3syrian journalists taken hostage by fSA this wk.
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Syrian atrocity: Bodies of postal workers thrown from roof (GRAPHIC VIDEO)
http://www.rt.com/news/syria-aleppo-post-video-476/
Syrian TV host kidnapped, executed by Islamists
http://www.rt.com/news/syrian-host-saeed-executed-868/

[cynicles]

Each of the MBs is a little different and the Ikwan of Syria have been little mor ethen tools of the house of Saud both in the past and now. They will opportunisticaly ally themselves with whomever will give them power. The Ikwan in Egypt are far more business..y and can act far more independant of Saud.