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Aziz
5th August 2012, 15:26
I just finished watching this documentary called the vice guide to Liberia and it is fucking nuts.
It explains how black Americans went over to Liberia and instigated a civil war after the first native black man became president, it was ran as a semi colony by ex black slaves sent back to Africa from the US, or so I understood from the documentary before then.
Anyway Charles Taylor backed by the USA, eventually seizes the president, tortures him, cuts his ear off on line TV and apparently starts to eat him.
It has these crazy statistics like 80% of the population had tasted human flesh, 50% illiteracy and unemployment, 70% of the women had been raped.
I just wanted to know is there anyway to back these statistics up and can you think of a more terrifying place to live than Liberia?
brigadista
5th August 2012, 16:21
terrible uninformed doc - no context and racist
refer you to this thread
http://www.revleft.com/vb/cannibal-generals-liberia-t172656/index.html?t=172656
at post 17 my final view
Aziz
5th August 2012, 16:29
terrible uninformed doc - no context and racist
refer you to this thread
at post 17 my final view
Thanks man will take a read now, however let me just say this, Shane smith was on the JRE podcast and he is pretty obviously disgusted by racism, right wing xenophobia, so I can imagine if you are correct and the documentary is misinformed, it is out of ignorance, not racist intent.
EDIT.
Okay, just looked at that thread, your being ridiculous in it. You imply it is racist because to believe the insane figures you have to support western intervention, that is about as valid as the identity politicos rationale.
And look on the net and there are tonnes of videos of child soldiers in Liberia eating human flesh, stories of Liberians themselves talking about mass rape etc..
Your cries of racism are baseless, and no I never supported KONY2012, I am not a white liberal.
brigadista
5th August 2012, 16:45
when did i say you were a white liberal [neither am I] where did i say you support KONY2012?
did you read the context?
I dont look at things on the net in isolation surely the situation has to be looked at in some sort of context??
Cannibalism and child soldiers are not things alien to Europe or the US but you would think from the coverage of wars in Africa that this is the only place that these activities take place-
Liberian history is particularly important in viewing the events there - Vice seem to sensationalise global situations and cover the events in those countries in a very superficial way which was my point in post 17 - always needs some research :):)
Aziz
5th August 2012, 16:53
when did i say you were a white liberal [neither am I] where did i say you support KONY2012?
did you read the context?
I dont look at things on the net in isolation surely the situation has to be looked at in some sort of context??
Cannibalism and child soldiers are not things alien to Europe or the US but you would think from the coverage of wars in Africa that this is the only place that these activities take place-
Liberian history is particularly important in viewing the events there - Vice seem to sensationalise global situations and cover the events in those countries in a very superficial way which was my point in post 17 - always needs some research :):)
Hey man I appreciate what your saying, but whitey ain't trying to fuck you here, it is just child soldiers and cannibalism are far more common in Africa than Europe.
This is because of European colonialism, however, at the beginning of the vice documentary, it clearly states it was the USA that caused these problems throughout the whole continent, along with the UK, France, Belgium, Holland.
Aziz
5th August 2012, 16:59
Also, I mean come on, Butt Naked was the most entertaining General ever. Haters gon hate this documentary.
brigadista
5th August 2012, 17:00
aziz i take your point but it takes a lot more explanation than that given in the particular vice doc - i mean particulars
It is in the interests of the west to encourage and fund barbarism -the old divide and rule and for that reason a lot of african countries have been kept in a constant state of post colonialism in order for the west to profit from african resources etc .
look at Congo-
the whole history of sierra leone and liberia are connected because of the method of formation of these states and the destabilisation of the area -
the whole Charles Taylor episode smacks of western hypocrisy to the max-
we may not agree here but nice talking nevertheless :):)
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